HOW TO BECOME A MARINE CORPS OFFICER | Nick Koumalatsos

[@anthonyluisi7096]

When I went through OCS (PLC) Program we had a guy who was a long distance track star . The 3rd day of being screwed with we were hitting the rack to get the few hours sleep we were allotted . The guy was in his running gear . I said where you going bro ? He said just going for a run .. I said “ ok have a good run . Well , he ran 50 miles home off the base . Next day , rumors spread .. but I knew the real deal as I was the last person to see him . I guess he really didn’t want to be there 😂

[@tyc4587]

That is hilarious

[@anthonyluisi7096]

@@tyc4587 👍🏻😂

[@ralphasher2326]

If I had lived anywhere close to OCS, this thought may have gone through my mind also.

[@andrewdizon2953]

Bruh 🤣🤣🤣

[@ejomatic]

He went enlisted 😆

[@Borzoi86]

I dropped out of seminary and enlisted in the Marine Corps in order to pursue becoming a pilot. Won my Gold Wings and flew for 25 years in a mix of active duty and reserve units. Endless appreciation for all the pilots and flight crews with whom I served over the years in a total of four countries and two ships. (I signed an aviation contract and went through straight OCS at Quantico, no PLC; no ROTC.) One wrinkle: The need for pilots was so great when I was commissioned that I was ordered straight to flight school thus avoiding TBS. Of course I was eager escape Quantico for the beaches of Pensacola and start flight school but the omission of TBS negatively affected my overall value to the Marine Corps. S/F

[@Mike-hn4uu]

And you got to have sex. Such a win.

[@Voucher765]

Semper Fi dude

[@jamesnash2620]

Most officers come in off the street like Kyle did. I did it, and almost everyone in my classes was either a college kid or one or two prior enlisted dudes. Hardest part was not laughing all the time

[@danroffee4904]

Marine OCS is an interview and evaluation of leadership potential not training. ROTC covers the basics before you start day 1 of ROTC OCS (aka bulldog)... 1 condensed 6 weeks. PLC junior makes up for those basics in 6 weeks. PLC senior essentially replicates bulldog. PLC is for college students without ROTC programs. OCC is 10 weeks cram it all in at once straight through for no experience college completed grads. Boot camp pushes you... OCS you have to push yourself or quit. The instructors will be telling.... You probably should quit and go home....or you don't deserve or belong leading good Marines. ...in the end officers need to have internal drive along with intelligence under stress, physical capacity, and responsible integrity. ...some turds still slip through.

[@LtActionCam]

Going back to Quantico for PLC seniors after PLC juniors was dreadful.

[@danroffee4904]

@@LtActionCamalways had a lot of respect for guys who went to second phase of PLC. 👍

[@annietaylorsmith3876]

I loved Drill at TBS!! Signed up for PLC as a sophomore. Couldn't go to the two 6 week training, because of classes and sports injury. I went to OCS after graduation in Sept 1981 and TBS Jan 1982. Semper Fi.

[@rotorheadv8]

Did TBS June 82. Came off active duty June 91

[@elishaking2899]

I graduated from college before I enlisted into the Navy and currently going into my 3rd year, I was fortunate enough to be stationed at a command with both Navy and Marines which is giving me a great first hand basis of what it’s like to be in the military. Let alone the Navy or Marines with working with and along side the two branches very closely. I genuinely hope I can take that journey into becoming a Marine Officer once my Navy contract is over.

[@bodezzy212]

I enjoyed being an Instructor at OCS far more than being a Drill Instructor! For the most part the individuals who show up to Brown Field want to be there, the kids who show up to our depots many as their only opportunity.

[@HuggybearActual]

Good Ole TBS, Time Between Sundays.

[@DDG683]

Best officers, in my experience anyway, were prior-enlisted.

[@efromhb]

Most mustangs are better officers but service branch and mos can play a part too.

[@Medevicerep]

Agreed. In my OCS platoon we had about 10 of them. They helped the rest of us get up to speed quickly. They also helped me keep my head on straight. The Marine Corps has more prior enlisted officers than any other service.

[@maytronix7201]

@@Medevicerep that must be a new thing. Not too many of those around in the 80's-90's.

[@chrismc410]

@zahando can also be a huge step backwards money-wise though. O-1E only goes to O-3E, depending on any bonuses one's branch and their MOS/Warfare Community/AFSC et cetera.

[@dusitthehto1946]

They are but most of them stress out when they lead their marine correct if I'm wrong? Also, I'm not trying to confuse you with everyone in the comments.

[@cwr8618]

Prior enlisted O here. Good video. SF my dudes

[@bottomfeeder1307]

When I graduated from a University, a Marine recruiter kept texting me about joining the Marines as an officer. I text back and told him that I wasn't interested. He didn't stop texting me until I told him he sounded really desperate.

[@jadennewmansdad6022]

Best officer I ever served with was a supp-o. Made my job as an xo 1000x easier. It can really hurt an infantry battalion full of shitty POG officers. A good adj, log, supply, and comm-o make a big difference.

[@willclayton9909]

"dint get the best grads" = officer material

[@dicefondlers5308]

Haha. Every Recruiter needs your advice reallll bad right now. Cause we need future Marines!

[@maryjanesmith8109]

My son wants to join the Marines. My husband was in Iraq. I’m scared for him.

[@patrickhosford5874]

Is there going to be a continuation of this conversation? I’m currently in the middle of some decision making as far as OCS or go Enlisted. Would love to hear the rest of this conversation!

[@NickKoumalatsos82]

The full podcast links are in the description

[@augusteahebee]

@@TheBlackwoods. If you have a college degree, do not enlist. Talk to an OSO. Assuming you have your degree the process of getting to OCS can be relatively quick, not years. Interview with OSO/paperwork, MEPs, couple PFTS, submit to one of the three boards that are around April, July and September. Can be quick, can not be, kind of dependent on whatever situation the selection office has going on sooooo talk to an OSO. Also past few boards have been somewhat competitive so definitely will need to be close to 300.

[@SellswordCC]

Prior enlisted 03 Marine turned Mustang officer in the combat arms. The question you have to ask yourself is what kind of career do you want. FWIW. I wouldn't trade my experiences for anything, but if I had to again...maybe I wouldn't have went the same way. I love my USMC heritage, but I remember the most enjoyable experiences were being operational, and that time is extremely limited in a line platoon before you go off to staff. Try to pick the brain of officers if you can especially Mustangs. Lots of Mustangs on the /r USMC forum, with opinions that may differ from mine, helps to get different perspectives even from non Mustangs. Also many of my enlisted Marines have went on to have very successful post military careers, and had higher education levels then when I was in so YMMV.

[@williamsmith8790]

If you have college go the PLC/OCS route. I find it quicker than trying to go enlisted and then MECEPing in. You have to leave it up to a board with MECEP, or even a salty 1stSgt that might think you are a $hit-bird and not positively endorse your package. With the OCS route if the OSO has to make quota, you can run, and don’t have 15 drug waivers you should be in. Try to be a pilot, they always have seats for them.

[@obriantomlinson2776]

@@williamsmith8790 I wish I would have followed my dreams and went the pilot route, I’m too old now I turn 33 in October….I might just get out though, Navy Advancement as a Corpsman kind of blows….

[@vik12D]

I went in under an EOD contract. We had to pass the DPFT during the 3rd week of training with the Dive Motivators, which was all SEAL/EOD/SWCC candidates. Out of 30 something, 3 of us passed. Everyone else lost their program right there.

[@1jbunceiii]

I would of like to hear about the peer reviews in OCS....I understand they can get pretty brutal

[@Medevicerep]

Yes, they can be brutal. Officers need to be able to evaluate the leadership capabilities of the NCO's they will be leading so they need to learn how to be objective by evaluating their own peers. Sure, some of them will be petty but the platoon staff will evaluate all of the reviews and match them to their own view of the candidate to balance it out.

[@williamsmith8790]

If it’s bad enough you can peer a guy out. We didn’t know this until after SULE 2 and a couple of $hit-birds got through that shouldn’t have.

[@19AGJ86]

They can be extremely brutal and if they are too bad, you can be sent to see the Col. Peer evals suck in OCS and TBS!

[@NaterTaterOutdoors]

I just realized Kyle had a Ray resection on his hand. That’s the beauty of that surgery. Very covert.

[@mrs8171]

He is missing his left index finger. Took it right off.

[@NaterTaterOutdoors]

@@mrs8171 that’s what I was talking about was his surgery on his hand. It was a Ray resection.

[@michelleosborne1431]

I would love if my son would consider officer but he said he prefers the hands on work involved in working on jets. He said officers are more of desk people.

[@j01150126]

I taught as an EI back in 88 and 89. I loved doing the static displays and night fire demonstrations for the civilians. I wonder if they still do them? I even dated an underage FBI secretary. Hey, who knew the FBI was hiring girls under 18? I was in better shape than the fleet Marines when I deployed with 2/7. The PT in the fleet was nothing compared to TBS, even as instructors. The only thing I was shocked about was the lack of discipline in the fleet.

[@fariseom-ue8jd]

Any recommendations for a marine reservist looking for a career as a US Diplomat security services? Thanks in advance.

[@tommydee1981]

Occ class 189!

[@BLRANCH0300]

OCS is physically tougher. Recruit Training is more psychological. That’s a simplified explanation. MCRD SD Platoon 2078 - 1989 OCC 178 - 2001

[@andystuckey2561]

lolI went on an aviation contract. Turned out I lacked depth perception. Got a choice of any MOS. I was mind melded already so i chose 03. Loved every second of it. Hehe. You know that is a lie, but I did like 99%!

[@iplayfoofee3547]

dont take it too hard. from what i've heard. just bout every1 fails the depth perception.

[@gogurtz1738]

I’m literally on the same boat as him, I recently got out about a year in a half ago.

[@chriscookesr6289]

I know this is 2 years old . My son is there now. He graduated Citadel 1st Lieutenant of his platoon. How do those guys fair ?

[@1980Invasion]

Not sure if this the correct way. My son is doing his boot camp then going to a military college. Then OCS

[@GABYGARZA_06]

Did your son attend college before boot camp? Or straight to boot camp?

[@1980Invasion]

He decided on a full enlistment in the Marine Corps. He has a very good plan and backup plan

[@chloehennessey6813]

Mr brother graduated from West Point two years ago. He’s helicopter pilot now.

[@dusitthehto1946]

What kind of helicopter did he fly?

[@blueocean-me1ns]

@@dusitthehto1946 Remote control?

[@dusitthehto1946]

@@blueocean-me1ns I mean Aircraft

[@Scotiapilot1966]

PLC! that was my pathway. PLC Aviation.....I will never for get my OSO. UT Arlington 1986.

[@offspringfan1288]

So, you said you worked in Force Recon and MARSOC; as an officer do you see combat in either career path? Just curious. I’m in my 30s and never served, my cousin just joined the Marines in Cyber Intel, and he’s shown interest in MARSOC.

[@sx99cornell]

the video ends with a VERY ABRUPT ending

[@williamhoskins2300]

yeah ! and not cool on the ptsd !

[@brentbeatty4171]

A Marine veteran was telling me that if was to obtain a 4 yr degree that I could earn entrance into the officers program with the Marine Corps....

[@renitamckelphin4160]

Hey question I’m trying to join the usmc boxing team but I can’t find any info on them can you give me some insight on them

[@hirumbiffidum9145]

Odd, that it wouldn't come up in Google searches ?

[@joshuathornhill8168]

I plan on doing the same thing leave in august

[@renitamckelphin4160]

@@hirumbiffidum9145 I look them up but they don’t show how to join or what are the qualifications

[@efromhb]

Lol this is kinda funny. My friend was boxing in the 2nd FSSG back in the early 90s. They asked him if he wanted to join the boxing team but he was close to the end of his contract and decided against it.

[@ephraimrodriguez4594]

@@renitamckelphin4160 from what I heard. The boxing team just made a comeback so there’s not a lotta official info going around. From my buddy who is trying, I think he heard they’re asking for proof of like 10 amateur fights. I couldn’t remember the exact number

[@rotorheadv8]

With an attrition rate of around 75%, Marine. OCS is not a soft option.

[@jacob2g]

Went to PLC juniors. Physical training was great but the leadership (company commander) was wack. Summer of 2020 was too PC so close to DC

[@MightyPacMan]

Any ado ice what to expect as marsoc officer

[@deathreaper2352]

Do the marines have a way to pay for ur college to graduate and receive a degree to later go to ocs or nah

[@masonboutwell7233]

There’s a way you can do that, but you have to be enlisted first and try out for officer selection. That route is pretty difficult to get into though, and you aren’t guaranteed a spot.

[@alfonsomendez800]

nrotc scholarship

[@maytronix7201]

Question for Kyle, when you went off to basic, did it take a while to start making money? What was the delay like before your wife was able to pay the bills?

[@a_soldierz_genetics]

My experience with the Army was you got paid on the 1st of the following month. Depending on what day you went in, you’d get a prorated paycheck.

[@Zero_Twice_00]

This is absolutely irrelevant but have raiders ever wore multi cam or does everyone wear woodland or the other marine camo? This is a legit question that I’m wondering lol

[@shootingbricks8554]

They wear anything the mission requires. In Marine garrison they wear Marine uniforms like anyone else.

[@Zero_Twice_00]

@@shootingbricks8554 it’s been 10 months but thanks homie

[@seanmontgomery8607]

What the fuckkk that’s my LT lol

[@huseyinsolak1226]

Can someone become Marine corps officer with dual citizenship and can someone take national security clearance with dual citizenship ?

[@johj2126]

Yes

[@SellswordCC]

No, Mustang officer here. For officers you have to have US citizenship alone, as it should be, IMHO. All my friends and fellow officers who had dual citizenship, with first world allied countries like the UK has to give it up prior to accepting a commission. Clearance levels can be restricted for a variety of reasons but you have to be eligible for at least secret for most officer jobs, but many duties and other jobs require higher clearances which may put you under intense scrutiny depending on the country you have ties to, family members and lifestyle, and background.

[@huseyinsolak1226]

@@SellswordCC what do you mean by lifestyle dude ? Religion or something else

[@SellswordCC]

@@huseyinsolak1226 religion doesn't have anything really do with it, unless maybe you have relationships with a radicalized sects that have posed a previous threat to the US. there are other tons of resources out there. Bottom line is if you're not questionable then you have nothing to worry about, you don't have to be a saint. A major thing people have trouble with is lying during investigations. Doesn't hurt to see an OSO if you have questions. You'll have to qualify prior to being offered a slot through any of the commission routes.

[@williamsmith8790]

Have to give it up.

[@19AGJ86]

I'm a Ground Supply Officer, if done right, it's one of the best MOS's in the Marine Corps!

[@slothassasin1055]

Don't lie to these kids bro lmao cmon now. The majority of these kids want to do combat arms, or eventually SOF.

[@jadennewmansdad6022]

@@slothassasin1055everyone wants to be an 0302 until it’s time to do 0302 things.

[@slothassasin1055]

@@jadennewmansdad6022 I was an 0802 and did 2 years as a cfso. Dealing with 0302's trying to do fire support was the bane of my existence lmao

[@Lee-hd3gf]

@@jadennewmansdad6022 facts.

[@kennydoublep]

There’s nothing wrong with supply 😂😭

[@shootingbricks8554]

Supply is needed to maintain logistics lol

[@wickedviscus2139]

that’s essentially my major lol 😂

[@Borzoi86]

"Captain talk tactics; Generals think logistics."

[@itsBridge]

Bro WTF was that outro

[@Zojaam-21]

can you attend the OCS with your own expense?

[@John-l5n6f]

The Basic Schoo;l 1-75

[@martinlanz5113]

Why do Marines wear their watches upside down????

[@jon4254]

This might sound stupid but while playing call of duty watches are also put upside down, while holding the rifle you can see the watch just fine so maybe thats why

[@rchris97]

(Marine here) You can see your watch while holding your rifle. It also prevents sun reflecting that can be seen by the enemy

[@alexanderwalters7537]

Its also high speed low drag

[@j01150126]

We wear our watches upside-down so there is no glare from the sun or moon on the watch face when going on patrol. However there are some Marines that purposely wear it face side up to show they are not an expendable stupid grunt.

[@willclayton9909]

officers origin of the crane eating myth

[@gregoryrush3878]

First of all, what's wrong with Ground Supply? But I was an enlisted 0311 first, so I had a clue. I'd been working at MMOA-3, then off to TBS (Time between Saturdays), and yes, I was a member of C 3-95, (the infamous 'Cheatin Charlie). What a nightmare that was. So I butted heads with my "Special Projects Coordinator" who hated me, even though I was normally right, the bastard wouldn't admit it in front of my peers. Fun times had by all. But having done both, that is what makes Marine Officers better than Army Officers. And I had OUTSTANDING leaders. And your story mirrors mine. Got my degree and picked up my trophy wife in the same week. Better than you since 1775, and we know it.

[@jerrygoller4269]

Why on earth would anyone want to be an Officer?? Officers just think they run the Marine Corps. Enlisted actually do. Ask any Sergeant Major.

[@jonmunch3298]

Why would you given the joke of an administration we have now? Wake up.

[@hirumbiffidum9145]

Bad News: Had 50 college credits-28 cumulative didn't matter, 77 ASVAB didn't matter, better physical fitness scores most of population (including MARSOC) didn't matter, no criminal record (at that time) didn't matter, letters of recommendation from 5 people including athletic coaches, school principal, study tutor, didn't matter, "RS" personnel cussed out people with Senator Robert Toricelli's office (got waiver submitted without their help 😡 did not matter). In my experience in order to join the Marine Corps or any other branch of the US Military depends on jail house politics, drugs, and booze.GOOD NEWS 22 years later in the past week someone former military walked away from a task cause of single digit Fahrenheit temperatures. Turns out Kallinikos of Heliopolis was a Jewish refugee. Not much is known about him but part of what is speculated to have been his process actually helps recondition trash receptacles, compactors, roll off boxes !

[@Mike-hn4uu]

Marines are okay but contrary to popular belief, the average coast guardian is much tougher and much more professional than your basic grunt. It's just a fact of life, don't kill the messenger.

[@KydraExhale]

Lmfaoooo

[@Borzoi86]

Okay, but Marines and Coasties, each superb in their own environment, have a totally different concept of "wet work."

[@DustJem22]

😂the coast guard is not the military!!! Good joke though!!!