tubalcain BUYS A South Bend Lathe model A tips 82

Tubalcain bought a used SB lathe. He discusses the pros & cons of his purchase.
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[@stevepitbull]

Just picked up the same lathe loaded with more accessories then you would believe for $1200. love it. thanks for posting as I gain most of my knowledge from your videos.

[@mrpete222]

Nice buy--especially with all the accessories

[@stevepitbull]

Thanks, Could you answer a few questions? OK so I watched your video where you told us there where too many questions and to google up etc... for the answers. Totally understand. Took your advice. Did my home work and got my answers. 1958 9" Model B. I do have one question. I need to know how to stop buying lathes. Just got into the hobby and I know own 8 lathes and I am looking at three more next week. Oh and what state are you from? Thanks, steve.

[@gerardopenya]

I can not thank you enough for all what I'm learning with you to the point that I would like to buy my first lathe to learn.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks for watching, and thanks for the offer. Another man already is sending one. pete

[@Stickfugure]

I bought one of these a few months ago for $275. It came with allot of tooling. I believe yours should have a 5c collet built into the spindle. Hope to see more videos on this lathe. Thanks you for sharing all of your videos. I have learned allot.

[@GK1918]

Welcome to the world of long beds. I guess a vidio of the making of a thread dial would be a good one. Why in the world, it seems only SB 9s& 10 thread dial prices shot through the roof. You have all the plus's in my book you will love it. Thanks

[@localcrew]

I got interested in machine lathes from watching Keith Fenner's channel. Started looking on craigslist to see how much they were. Not long ago I saw a South Bend lathe that was similar to this one (can't remember what model it was) but it had been lovingly restored. It looked perfect in every way. I have a feeling that it was more than just a "DuPont Overhaul" too. Seller was asking 2K for it. As I said, it looked perfect. Thanks for posting this vid.

[@mrpete222]

THANKS MARK

[@freelancerider100]

love this lathe I have the exact model... you can't go wrong with south bend...

[@hla27b]

Mr. Pete I need to warn you about the casters! There was a guy on one of the machining forums trying to move his lathe in a similar way. He forgot for a moment how top-heavy and unbalanced a lathe really is. As a result the lathe fell on his feet breaking many bones. The guy had to spend the better part of the year on a hospital bed and was lucky to be able to walk again. So please make sure there is no way for the lathe to topple over. Apparently lathes don't need much encouragement to do that.

[@turbocobra]

Nice video on the lathe. Enjoying your videos. - After we finish our twin turbo 65 mustang project, i plan to invest in some metal working tools, so we can do a better job on the next project. Thanks!

[@NOBOX7]

Im thinking of building a brush plating set up to nickle plate some of the flights and wheels and maybe the pan

[@73superglide62]

I think you did well ,thant s how learn to used it in school too its hard tell how much is to much no used tools

[@mrpete222]

Yes-the lathe will still work for small jobs

[@stefanoworx]

I passed up a "brand new" SB 9" up in Detroit last year. Yes it went for $2000, and yes I now think it was a bargain.

[@steelcantuna]

How many South Bends did you go look at before you decided to purchase this one?

[@outsidescrewball]

Did you get any tooling with the purchase? I assume you have enough in hand to outfit the machine. My first lathe was a Southbend 10" heavy, sold it when I got my 14" Clausing. The main reason was the variable speed control, love my Clausing, but I do miss my first love, the Southbend.

[@derekgreen7319]

Dang 800 bucks. I got taken for sure on the one I bought lol

[@mrpete222]

I'll just have ace hardware color match for enamel paint. This type of belt allows you to change belts without disassembling the spindle & the lower drive. The belt comes apart.

[@RICKYRATT916]

REAL NICE SB

[@mikeadrover5173]

‘mrpete222’ I personally want to thank you for the education that I have received; and enjoy and studying your films! I am a ‘jack’! Master of none; a woodworker by happenstance; as I have stated prior, I have just bought, Nineteen-forties I think it to be? A South bend tool room lathe 13inces by 3-1/2 model A. and I am chomping at the bit! To get this lathe up-and running. As always, thanks’ for taking the time to make this video! And I support this site. ~M~

[@edflower109]

Hi Mr PeteI was fortunate to find a really nice South Bend 9a 4.5 ft. in South Bend. Nice condition. Has pretty light wear (gears in gearbox are almost like new) ,decent original paint and an original embossed nameplate without even a scratch on it!...The owner must have kept the nameplate covered up or something?... The seller said he had tons of calls about it but I was the first to respond and he held it for me. I'm from the Chicago area and late one night on a whim I decided to take a look at the south bend Indiana craigslist and see if there were any South Bend lathes available and there it was.... The ad had just been posted a few minutes prior. I emailed him immediately and said I wanted to buy it . Picked it up over the following weekend .......This is unrelated to the subject but I just watched your series on the horizontal bandsaw and it was very informative but you made no mention of power hacksaws?... I own a couple and they work pretty well. They make a nice clean cut , are easy to use , don't have to worry about breaking/rewelding blades or cutting yourself uncoiling them ,blades are cheaper , they have more of a "fun factor"(interesting to watch like a shaper). The only downside is they are slower but for most of us in home shops that is not really a big problem.

[@pignatari48]

In Brazil, where I live, workers were proud to do jobs in a Southbend lathe in post war years. They were very precise and rugged, and beautiful too.

[@ClownWhisper]

Seems to me $800.00 for a nice south bend in beautiful condition sure h as this is one hell of a good deal! I would have a stroke if I found one in half this condition for that price! Great buy!

[@RHINO8892160]

I have a vintage south bend lathe for sale with a lot of extras that are in mint condition. I would like to know if your interested mr. tubalcain.

[@fall22123]

The first machine tool I ran was a South Bend lathe back in high school. The project was a threaded arbor with washers and nuts to go with it. After that we made a spring-loaded tap guide and a fly cutter. I still have them in my toolbox and use them occasionally.

[@coryknipe5471]

Looking for southbound 9a presently. Approximately what year is yours with motor and drive below? Not sure if you have video n the topic, but can a conversion be done to mount drives in a cabinet below the lathe? Just a comment, all your videos are the cream of the crop :)

[@oldschoolmachinest]

Great video. I have a heavy 10 with the original motor. We have 3 phase power in our shop but I chose to buy a TECO VFD so I could run it off of 110 single phase. It works great and I can dial up the speed between belts.

[@grahamsharpe1367]

Need a bit of help. The door cover on the gear train has a badly worn hinge pin, and I am not familiar with how to remove the pin. All comments appreciated.

[@mikemakesandfixes2070]

So where and how would one be able to have the Ways machined a bit and precisely polished on say a 21 by 60 Okuma lathe?

[@mrpete222]

Search for machine tool rebuilders in big cities

[@mikemakesandfixes2070]

Thank you very much Sir

[@mrpete222]

Yes--use shim stock or feeler gages.

[@stevenfoster1940]

This is the first time I saw the lathe that is exactly like mine been looking through the whole KZbin and this is the first time I saw one

[@RWCSNZ]

What it understand is that the segmented belt is for assorbing or putting out less vibration and should give you a better finish - I don't know if its true or just a selling gimmick - what do you think?

[@edflower109]

I wish you had replaced that bad motor bearing on video...would have been interesting/ helpful . Love your vids!

[@andrewcollins6525]

Hello mr Pete. Greetings from england. I have a southbend 9" lathe but I'm struggling to determine what model it is. Could you help please?

[@tony5323]

Mr. Pete, I love your channel. I have a 1963 10k that I'm trying to restore. I'm at a point where I need to replace the gear that's attached to the V belt cone pulley. I have a NOS replacement for it. My question is have you ever tried pressing one of these on or off?

[@mrpete222]

Have not

[@austincjett]

I bought almost the same lathe several years ago, it was money well spent. The only difference is mine has a flatbelt. Judging by its condition, the lathe spent its life doing nothing other than occupying space. Zero crash marks! Guess I'm it's care taker until the next owner.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@robingibson7503]

I found a 9" with a 4ft bed. Called Southbend and asked them how test runout and set it up. Came with the original wood bench. It mic out to .0002 according to the way south bend told to test it. Had to buy $400 hundred dollars worth of tools to do it though. Found a retired Machinist at the flee market who sold used tools and he helped out plenty. With lots of micrometers and some tooling, I paid $750!!!!

[@cobrajet8866]

Hey Boss - I just bought this same lathe but a 10K. I do not have the tailstock. again, it is a 10" swing. tough to find a tail stock for a 10" swing. can I modify a 9" tail stock to make it fit? is there a riser kit?

[@mrpete222]

Not to my knowledge

[@KohalaIronWorksCase]

Nice Lathe...I just got me a South Bend Heavy 10 still looking for parts...need a tail stock...

[@jacksonjones5213]

Got one just like it with a taper attachment. Pretty sweet.

[@Migueldeservantes]

I acquire mine part by part! Atlas Craftsman, and My only regret is that I didn't have the money to get it long b4! is a sweet machine! does what I need and them some!

[@GregsGarage]

I enjoy watching all your vids. I always learn something about tools I've never had access to.

[@mikeadrover5173]

Outstanding! As always, thanks’ for taking the time to make this video! And I support this site. ~M~

[@adrianosorio3491]

hola tubalcain compre un south bend 9 inch mod.b me lo vendieron sin el sinfin y lo quiero fabricar necesito el diametro de paso de sinfin el engrane es de 36 dientes saludos

[@johnunderwood3132]

I have v belts also. Why do you prefer v belts

[@dougkiss7630]

I noticed a tarp behind the lathe. Is this for photography or protection of the wall from oil splatter? IMO a great idea

[@mrpete222]

The former

[@alan0166]

I run a 1 hp 3 phase 208 Volt motor on 110 volt household current. I Use a Teco VFD. Cheaper and less labor than installing a new motor. Plus it gives variable speed. Nice lathe you have there. I'm a South Bend fan as well.

[@djpaulk]

HAHAHAAAA.. After the time spent putting in that lathe motor with cold hands.... It can keep its noisy bearing... Sounds a bit 'if it aint broke,don't fix it' !! Love it :D

[@deepgrooved]

I'd like to send you a "genuine" tailstock wrench if you have not got one yet, least I can do for all you have taught me!

[@73superglide62]

it crap shoot buying tools they are used

[@MrMichaeljab]

I love the SB Model A. Anybody who has ever used one would love it too. Your tailstock body looks different than the SB tailstocks I am familiar with. I wonder if it is original. The SB tailstocks that I have seen are two piece with a plate on the bottom that rides on the ways and the vertical alignment can be adjusted by using shims between this plate and the tailstock body. It doesn't look like this tailstock has two pieces. I'm looking forward to your videos on the SouthBend.

[@Robert-ko6wr]

Enjoy your videos very much. I'm retired and want to learn & do machining. Could you please provide some guidance - should I buy a new modern lathe or something like an older South Bend Precision Model A 9"? Am happily willing to tear down and refurbish an older lathe. Work and using elbow grease doesn't frighten me. Anything worth doing is worth doing well. Thank you for providing me good information in an easy to understand manner. You are an excellent mentor!

[@mrpete222]

I prefer the older ones

[@Calekid]

Good video, I've a Boxford ME 10 a copy of the south bend and I fitted a cheap vernier caliper to help my failing eye sight have a look it might be handy look on Boxford lathe,Vernier caliper,Carriage attachment

[@jameswoodcock7902]

my dad is 70 he is a retired machinist and a southbend according to him is a choice lathe so you can be assured you made a quality decision in buying yours we presently have four different machine starting with a unimat hobby lathe a harbor freght mini lathe 9x20 a harbor freight small milling machine and a smithy bz 239 gap bed lathe your grandson is a neat kid teach him well im shure you will i am a fan of yours

[@rcwarship]

Hiya Tubalcain! I'm starting to fit a back plate to my headstock & could not determine what kind of a fregister it would be appropriate. From what I've read, one school of thought is that the register is not really vital, as the shoulder where the plate mates with the back plate is the critical fit & needs to be scraped. Another school of thought is that the register is absolutely critical & should be +0 & -,0005. Any thoughts? Thanks very much for your videos, I've learned a lot. Jon

[@jae878]

Great video. I have a south bend like that one except my lathe has an extra plate under the head stock, tail stock and compound. Have you seen that before? I also got a steady rest with the lathe but I don't know how or if it will work on this lathe. Also, I got a taper attachment with the lathe, is there a different feed screw nut that should have come with it so it can be disconnected without taking it all a part? The south bend book makes it sound like you just remove a bolt and it is discon

[@NOBOX7]

awesome i just scored one of these for $100 but its bin disassembled and there is no drive belt and its rusted but hey i could never afford one of these other wise so im goin for the restoration of a life time on mine. first im gonna assemble it to see if it could work then if i can get it to work im gonna paint it and clean it . the motor is 240 volt but im gonna look into getting a 2400 watt 120 volt motor because the shaft looks bent on the motor in this unit .

[@mrpete222]

+NOBOX7 Good buy--fix it up

[@NOBOX7]

+mrpete222 Did some research and it turns out i have a 10L model or "heavy 10 " as they call it , not quite the same as yours . I just purchased a book specifically made for restoring this model and several others . im kinda worried about the fact its completely disassembled , the tail stock alignment may be a huge job for me as i have never done it . im gonna paint it with light grey primer and clear coat the entire thing and repaint and sand the brass Lable plates. also gonna refelt all the oil ports

[@NOBOX7]

+mrpete222 Mine has a 240 volt motor { the shaft seems bent} , do you think a good 120 volt motor would be strong enough ? Theoretically 3hp is the most power you can safely supply on a 20 amp circuit but im worried it wont be enough torque , i mean i have brought bench grinders to a halt with very little work pressure so im kinda concerned that im gonna need 4 or more hp to run at high rpm .

[@ClownWhisper]

Yes a 240 volt motor is no stringer than a 120v one,. 1 hp is 1 hp

[@RWCSNZ]

sorry assorbing isn't a new word - I meant absorbing

[@phooesnax]

same unit in dad's shop....different base with motor behind and above....has the described damage from school kids running into the spinning chuck.... also has taper attachment. Dad had to repair missing tooth on back gear and replace half nuts on thread feed. Great machine.

[@ArtemiaSalina]

So, with a single phase motor, I guess reverse no longer works? I know there are VFD's that can use 1ph/110v to drive 3 phase motors, and they are cheap. Had you considered that option?

[@freelancerider100]

found a south bend drill press... needs lots of work...

[@mpmj4567123ghoik]

Hi tubalcain Thanks for your viedo I wrote an artical on older lathes in Australia on simular lathes for my blog the other day and included your link along with other material as it deals with South Bend lathes. Mark

[@docdavidb]

Nice find and at a great price!! Has all the good stuff: in cabinet drive, v-belt pulleys, large dials. I have a SB 9A, with small dials, horizontal drive, and flat belt. But I do love the old beast. Thankfully, mine has pristine ways. It would be a great service to other SB owners if you show a remove and check of the quick change and the apron. I had to figure it out on my own. Also maybe remove of the headstock and replacing wicks?

[@JASCOBAR]

Honestly Tubalcain I rather be able to hack all the knowledge & experience out of your head & download it all into my head than have someone throw me the keys to a Porsche Cayman. You have gathered a lot of knowledge from 1000's of mornings in the shop on the floor. And no one ever stops learning.

[@carrichard]

I am enjoying your shop classes, I'm a Machinist and yes its always nice to refresh one's past with a good batch of tips!! Incidentally I put my grandson through the best machine Shop Collage I could find and he is fowling Grandpas past to the future!! Thanks and happy chips to yea!! ;)

[@mrpete222]

Thanks for watching. Good luck to your grandson

[@jakeknight6154]

Great video. I’m always learning from these. I wanted to check this one out, because I think I am going to pick this same lathe up this weekend. Hoping for the best. Thanks for all the info.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@dermotkelly2289]

Hi Pete. This is my first message to you. I have watched a few of your vids and have learnt a lot from you and thanks. I'm a British expat living in Thailand and I'm thinking about buying a brand new small bench lathe to do model engineering but I would like something a little more robust to do small general jobs. It would be rather expensive to buy one from the states or the u.k for shipping costs. Do you know of any new asian bench lathes what have a good write up? Kind regards Dee

[@ODMIJ084]

Wheww thank-goodness a new video, for a time I thought a new video would never come. My favourite part about this video is when Tubalcain mentioned that this lathe will be featured in a lot of videos on the future. Glad to hear it!!!!!. Keep them coming, I'll watch any video you make involving lathes, milling machines and any other machine related to the machine shop. I espically like the "mini projects" such as the v-pulley, the brass bearing and the model steam engine. Again Keep them coming!!

[@RubSomefastOnIt]

love my old lathe. 1949 820 logan with the quick change gearbox, auto apron and it came with a turret (not gotten around to using the turret yet though). if you want a smaller lathe you can not beat an older one.

[@CalPil0t]

Glad to see a SB in the shop. Looking forward to seeing those new videos. Hop on to Practical Machinist forum's South Bend section, we would really treasure your input there. Thanks for your work.

[@buggyman77]

Hey Tubalcain Thanks for all the GREAT videos :) I’m starting to look for a Mill. How about a video on what to look for when buying a Mill! Thanks again, Paul

[@mrsconniemoore]

PLEASE make some more videos, I watch you every morning and need lots more info to get to where you are. I live in St Louis area, good to see your hard at it.

[@tnekkc]

That looks like the lathe in Puget Sound Jr High metal shop in 1965.

[@seksek55]

Maybe it just me, but there is something elegant about the design of the South Bend 9. I look forward to your videos using this lathe.

[@johnpanter]

Mr Pete. KZbin needs a video on turning metal between centres using a dog and drive plate

[@Xtinnoker]

Great video Tubalcain, Looks to be a nice buy from here. Could you show how to install the chuck for us green folk like myself?

[@rcscott53]

Great Video!! I just bought a SouthBend and I'm looking forward to your upcoming videos using this machine!

[@777GertS]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge! I like your video's very much, they are a guide for me in home shop machining. Whenever you have time, could you please show how to make gears? Keep the video's coming!

[@clockguy2]

Can you shim under the dovetail on the tail stock to compensate for wear?

[@Wooley689]

I am learning so much from you in these videos, wish you lived in my neighborhood dang it.

[@happymark1805]

very nice find, it seems it is still in very good shape

[@stratocaster1greg]

sir you remind me of my favorite machine shop teacher. thanks for all the great videos.

[@edktm]

Another great video! I love the comments about getting excited about buying something and overlooking things and then having buyers remorse. You are a very wise man and you got a great deal. Keep the videos coming, Ed

[@alexfreddi]

Ed Italiano , exactly my words.

[@Krislights1]

Thanks for taking time to make all these wonderful videos. I'm re-visiting model engineering after a 15 year break, and your reminder videos are inspirational and full of many handy hints. It's about time someone did them on boiler making! I always enjoyed your bits in model engineer.

[@Fixinthatupvideos]

T=up

[@mikeadrover5173]

As always, thanks’ for taking the time to make this video! And I support this site. ~M~

[@mrbreezeet1]

his videos are great! I have learned some things so far, where I say, "Cool, l didn't know that" I am doing the feed/leadscrew modification to my Logan, like he did on the atlas. Sometimes he is funny, like when he says the Atlas engineers were High on Coke when they designed the Atlas quick change gear box...................LOL

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@charduff]

I could just sit here and listen to you talk about machines all day

[@robert1352]

I wish you would do some videos about restoring a lathe.

[@jimsanker989]

I'll take it if you change your mind. JI M

[@RHINO8892160]

Can you send me an email address so I can send you photos of equipment

[@mrpete222]

[e-mail]

[@robert1352]

Love the videos! I have a Shealdon EXL56B.

[@AleroAero]

woo hoo First Viewer!