Make a TINY RULE HOLDER

[@bodgit1964]

Your research is fantastic. As a retired teacher myself, I really appreciate the research that goes into your lesson plans. Please please don't stop. Jon

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@bodgit1964]

@@mrpete222 Sir do not thank me. The work that you are doing is a service for the future. After thirty years at the chalk face, I now work at a bench playing. One of my earliest memories is watching an uncle screw cutting on a Myford ML10 and I grew up in a machine shop, but the knowledge is disappearing. I have a couple of lads who work with me who have never seen manual machining and I am conscious that if I don't pass on the knowledge then it will disappear; so I try to teach them what I know and how to think. You on the other hand have taken it upon yourself to create an archive that will outlast all of us, and allow the kids of the future to avail themselves of the skills that are fading. We all owe you a huge debt thank you. Jon

[@hersch_tool]

Mr Pete, the Gold Standard. How many of us will carry on the legacy, to the best of our limited abilities, thanks to the efforts of this great man? It's impossible to know how many young (and old, like mine...) minds he's inspired.

[@Jim-ie6uf]

Great job as always. Let’s hear the story about the Vespa, your brother and the sawed off shotgun, we are impatiently waiting.

[@MCAS1924]

I agree, bring on the Vespa / shotgun story!

[@sloprun]

I agree, spill the beans.

[@columjevens4612]

Love the research And the radius tool in action. Happy St Patrick’s Day ☘️☘️☘️

[@Duckfarmer27]

Lyle - Another great video for the first cup of coffee. Keep them coming. Like you I'm a guy who prowls auctions. And in this case I happen to be luckier than you. Years ago I got at an auction the tool box of a long gone tool maker who had to apprenticed out around 1900 (luckily only had to bid against those who only valued the Gertsner box). Among other things in that box (he took wonderful care of his tools) was a Lufkin 20S set. But a bit older than you picture, which appears to be a plastic case. Mine is the maroon leatherette they used to use. So I'm spoiled - didn't have to make the holder, just pull the antique out of the chest with my 'best' tools in it. Still have the 6 inch Starrett scale I carried in my pocket for years as an engineer - now that I'm retired it is sitting next to the computer for when I need it. Have a good St Patrick's day.

[@mrpete222]

That is awesome. I would love to run across an old Gerstner box filled with tools. That has never happened.

[@Rondawg60]

Lyle, you are a complete treasure... Your approach to a project is the best. I have needed one of these holders for years a never took the time to pursue making one, until now, thank you for the inspiration.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@strongandco]

I enjoy the research pieces you add to the video especially the shots from the catalogues (particularly the older ones).

[@crr8297]

Knowledge is golden, what we learn today will surely be useful tomorrow, thank you

[@Radiotexas]

My shop teacher, Mr. Hamm, pounded (literally) into our heads that said measuring devise was called a RULE--- not a ruler! He enforced his edict by carrying around a wood 24 inch RULE which he would swat any offender who dared using the wrong noun! He also used it for other infractions in his shop. This was, of course, back in the day as we say! Thanks as always for the keen tips Mr. Pete!

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@charlieromeo7663]

My drafting teacher in high school was the same way, only he used the term SCALE. He said he was the RULER! Good times.

[@robconcep644]

When I use a slitting saw, I set it's rotation speed rather slow. Then I feed it in even slower. Both actions I perform much slower than what I saw in your video. If i need a really straight slit I'll peck at the work very slowly and gently until I reach the maximum depth. Thank you for all of your wonderful videos. You have always been an inspiration to me. You are a master machinist. Robert

[@billdaniels5957]

Good morning Lyle. Keep on doing the research, it is very interesting. You are always teaching all of us.

[@johnquinn3899]

Hey Mr Pete, no doubt you always do some research into the history of how tools were made and the background of the inventor - thank you. John

[@ssboot5663]

Improvise! Surgical Forceps! Thanks for the videos. Thanks for the information you have looked up for us! Do tell us about the Vespa and the double barrel sawed off shotgun!

[@rjsenn4142]

Great suggestion! I use them all the time- in fact I used them yesterday in my shop!

[@jenniferwhitewolf3784]

Never throw out materials... just like the crispy-taped up round stock, there WILL be the day you need it👌👋

[@madmodder123]

We love all the research!

[@joecolanjr.8149]

Another perfect video for my first cup of coffee!!! Thanks Mr Pete!! Have a wonderful day!!

[@franciscoflores7911]

I would have never known these exist if not for you. Thank you Mr. Pete.

[@lindsaybrown7357]

Many years ago I got called in to work on the electrics of an ASEA medium frequency induction furnace. The foundry made high quality ferrous castings. The feedstock for the furnace included 22 gallon drums of machine shop waste from the local technical school. Amongst the waste made up of swarf and chips was quite often tools that the kids threw out or lost. The foundry man had an amazing and vast collection of micrometers, verniers, drills, taps - you name it.

[@mrpete222]

Sad

[@themancalledx1342]

I appreciate the research Mr.Pete.

[@a1roadman]

I love seeing all the old catalogs, and the research is amazing! Best of all though are the rants about the little things we all experience in the home shop! Cheers!

[@mrpete222]

Glad you like them!

[@robertgomola6819]

I enjoy the research you present. Thank you.

[@G1951-w1y]

Greetings, Mr. Pete. A bit too much coffee today? Good video, there's always cramped spaces that need to be measured that no tape measure or rule is flexible enough for. A worthwhile project. Also, your brother's Vespa/shotgun story sounds like a good candidate for your anecdote series which I enjoy very much. Keep'em coming.

[@kawonnowak]

When you showed the HS initials I involuntarily blurted out his full name out loud! I can't exactly remember when you gave it out last, it may well have been during one of your (now historic but still without equal) tool box tours. HS's name obviously made an impression on me!

[@rexmyers991]

You are still the best shop teacher! Thanks, Mr. Pete.

[@mrpete222]

Wow, thanks!

[@andrewwilson6085]

After 50 years in toolmaking, these videos take me back! Never seen the little rule before, in Britain we used 6inch Moore and Wrights ( as a rule) 😂

[@fixitmakeit]

another tool another tool I didn't know i needed, thanks Mr Pete.

[@johnabramson9572]

I loved the entire journey, thanks Mr. Pete

[@scottjones7279]

Thank you for the R&D

[@theotherclyde]

1) (unfortunately) I roll tobacco by hand 2) even if nobody comments on your videos, the fact that you are committing decades of learned hands on knowledge to the future is an amazing gift 3) I love that song...

[@Militarycollector]

We need your research,,don’t change a thing.. You’re the man…👍

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@danielpowell2711]

I have one of these made by Starrett. Was in a box of old tools that I purchased several years ago, Its complete except for the 3/8 rule. I never used it but will in the future. Thanks for making me aware of what I had. Thanks also for your videos. I never miss one.

[@randyboldt-8126]

Yes your research is of interest .

[@jamesreed6121]

With the high cost of some very simple tools, it is really good to see how to make some of the every day tools that should be dirt cheap. I'm going to make one for my shop. While watching you develop your version I was thinking why didn't think of that. Just because we are old doesn't mean we are no longer useful. KOKO!

[@keithschwartz7318]

Thanks for the Sunday Post. I enjoyed watching. Have a good week.

[@johnkraus728]

Yes!! I appreciate the research, description and photos of the tools, makers and uses. Very informative, thank you!! Also, I, too, find the perfect stock I need for a project and hesitate to use it thinking I'll save it for a "better" project. Silly.

[@mrpete222]

Lol

[@ecay]

I don't care whether or not it's something that people find useful or not. I like these type of tools because I promise you I can find a use for that and be thankful I had it or had the knowledge how to make it

[@4GSR]

I have the Lufkin set that belonged to my dad. I forgot all about them until your video today. It comes handy that one time in ten years when needed. The only problem with the old Lufkin set is the patina is so bad you can't read the little scales very easily at my age. As always, keep the videos coming as I enjoy watching them on Sunday morning.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@brianbutler3954]

Hi Lyle, please continue the research on items I do like that. Like you I have many tool boxes filled with tools, I think I have one of these Starrett 423"s some where ( a flea market find), but I can't find it, so I order another off of ebay. Your video's are the best, keep up the good work.

[@mrpete222]

Will do

[@justhavingfun675]

I didn't know I had a pin vise till you showed me. It was in a box of tools that was my father's and grandfather's tools. I had already cut up a small ruler, and I was holding it by hand. If I had done the research, I would have known that handles were a thing. Now I am set.

[@stevewilliams2498]

Hi Lyle. I know you read all our comments. Yeah .. I bet. As an apprentice a prank the old hands were apt to play on us was to cut a small amount off your rule when you weren't looking. It is amazing the affect that has on the quality of your work 😮 and how it isn't immediately obvious that you have been caught. Lesson learnt. Never leave your rule unattended 😂

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@ianhelsbyservices]

I believe your research to be vital in setting the story and sets you apart from other YT'ers. Please keep it up. Much appreciation from the UK

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much

[@mhc6777]

Love your work Mr Pete - your research into older tools and techniques is invaluable for us hobbyist guys who don't have the experience or past knowledge of how things were done before 'modern' gadgets like DRO were introduced. It can help with one off solutions, but more importantly your videos help expand our understanding of what we are trying to do and the sometimes forgotten tooling options available.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much

[@stilyou]

You're are indeed a prophet Mr. Pete! I bought a Kennedy machinists chest (with contents) at an auction on Friday and there was a Starrett No. 110 in with all the other goodies. I had no idea what it was. I was going to search for it this morning but checked KZbin first and couldn't believe what I saw! Unbelievable! I mean, what are the odds??!! Only the shadow knows! Thanks!

[@mrpete222]

Lol

[@duron700r]

Research helps drive me. Takes too long sometimes but the brain stays busy. I also enjoy your research in your field. It helps us. If I was smart, I'd watch this again. Cigarette papers are about a thou? That's handy to know to help the process to find center! Thanks Mr Pete!

[@edzatool]

I have the Starett handle I found it in a box of stuff an old man dropped off at the shop I worked in. The scales came from my #303 scale I had an accident with on the sheet metal shear. I found this setup one of the most handy tools in my box. In almost 50 years I have used mini scales countless times. The handle works great for radius gage too. Ed Z. Toolmaker, retired. I look forward to your videos as I truly like to watch some one else work for a change. Thank you, E.

[@mrpete222]

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[@davebenedum9253]

Thank you for your time and effort. I have never been a machinist, nor do I work much with metal. However, both my grandfather and father were tool and die makers. My grandfather passed several years ago and my father passed last week. Your videos and research help me understand the talents and abilities they both had.

[@mrpete222]

Sorry about your father

[@Gregorybridgewater]

That radius tool is awesome! I did not realize they made them that small though

[@100yojimbo]

Keep doing the research Mrpete you always find lots of interesting information to put in your videos, also I love the still pictures and patents you put at the end. Keep up the amazing work your doing 👍👍👍👍👍

[@mrpete222]

Thanks, will do!

[@geoffhawkesford2077]

Hi Pete, love your videos! Regarding #927 small rule, I like your attempts to make a straight slot😊. Going to the initial problem and as an amateur wood turner I would pick up a spring inside caliper. By the way, there are lots of us in the UK with the deadly auction-buying-boxes-of-mainly-rubbish disease, possibly age related. Pity we can't add to that with PeteBay. Keep up the great work, Geoff

[@keithpattison6763]

Good idea Lyle, think I will make one. After leaving school, my friends would smoke, but I didn't. I had the car and a packet of smokes cost the same as a gallon of petrol. A packet of smokes wouldn't take me anywhere, so I never got hooked.

[@FutopiaAD]

The research commentary is some of your best content

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@oldschoolcfi3833]

these videos make my day. I started watching when they first came on. I went out and bought an old Southbend workshop lathe. Began learning how to do all the things I was watching. MrPete you're the best!

[@johnkemas7344]

Hang on o that Starrett catalog Pete, it will be a collectible very soon and worth a lot of money!! I'll miss them.

[@mikepoore1653]

What about a locking hemostat? Would coming in from the side with the slitting saw help keep it straight?

[@richardhutchinson4016]

Thanks for the research, I use a Hemostat clamp to hold my scales.

[@mrpete222]

Great tip!

[@Self_Evident]

@mrpete222, you are freakin' brilliant! Not only do I have several extra 6 inch rules lying about, but I also have an extra x-acto handle, that I haven't used _in decades_ , that now has a purpose!

[@mrpete222]

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[@MikeUlakovic-q7l]

Lyle, many many years ago I bough a lot of tools from a retired German machinist in a very nice Kennedy 526-8 tool chest. Included was a No S423 set which I use from time to time. The set sells for $284.43 here in Canada on Amazon. As far as the research goes I have gained from some of the information you provide.

[@frankpresley494]

Please keep on doing the research. It adds a lot to the videos.

[@dsgnstr-u3w]

Yeah. You're doing a great job. They never let me take high school shop because I wanted to be and Architect. And, I did all that stuff with neighborhood kids anyhow.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍👍

[@n8hfi]

Brown & Sharpe made them too--my set is from B&S. But there's no number on the plastic case, but it says 335 on the holder. The B&S holder uses a tapered collet like the Xacto handles (although it's smaller, about 3" long and 3/16" diameter.) They get better grip by slitting the outer sleeve to match the slit in the collet, so the rule sits deeper in the handle. This means the rule is sitting in the tapered part of the collet.

[@PRR5406]

Mr.Pete, I love the projects when I can follow what you are doing to make something myself. As a novice, the mayonnaise engine has caught my attention. More, please!

[@mrpete222]

Thanks, go to “ myheap “ find many of my projects and drawings

[@haroldadelman1130]

I love the research and I love the thought and work that you put into every project, even a minor piece like this! Thank you!

[@BobGilbert-n3z]

I love the research you put in. So much more learning.

[@alanremington8500]

Thanks Mr. Pete for turning on a light for the less informed - Me !!!

[@stefanoworx]

Great fun watching you do just what I do all the time!!!

[@mrpete222]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@ohmbug10]

Your research is much appreciated, Mr. Pete. You're 80 years old, it's too stressful to change who you are, so please don't. We love you for who you are. PS, please tell the story of Jan and the sawed off shotgun.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you for watching Don’t think I can tell that story on woke KZbin

[@doingstufforatleasttrying4843]

Love the research. Some people like me have only been doing this as a hobby for about 6 years now. So the research helps in several ways. One way is if the item is still available and the other is the price difference. It’s amazing how much stuff is these days compared to back in the 1950s. The research is appreciated…..Great video. I had no idea that this was a real thing. I cut one of the 6 inch scales to 2 inches but it always falls out of my hands. This video was extremely helpful. Thanks so much…..

[@mrpete222]

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[@ypaulbrown]

I bought a cardboard box loaded with precision tools off Facebook Marketplace, it was festooned with short rules.....the gentleman who had passed had left with his 50 yearly architect son, who had no need for them ..... there were [2] 18" Starrett rules for using with a Combination Square... Brand New......now I know how to use all those shorties I got.... Happy Saint Patrick's Day , Mr. Peterson........by the way, this video had more PUNS than your last 25 videos I think, I was beginning to wonder if you had gotten into the Wacky Tabacky... Stay Safe and Productive......until the next video, cheers, Paul

[@mrpete222]

I was into the wacky. Nodoz tablets. We don’t smoke marijuana in Muskogee.

[@inspector1794]

I had several occasions when I had to inspect hole spacings in a corner at arms length. A Starrett 6" scale was all that was required, if I could bend the scale somewhat it worked great. Unfortunately Starrett scales do not bend much, instead they break. Which was handy as the new length made inspection much easier. I found that they broke fairly cleanly at the inch markings where the engraved lines were most of the way across the width of the scale. Thanks for sharing all that you share.

[@hampdentime]

Now I have to go look at in my box. I do have one but don't remember what manufacture I have. Came for a yard sale and to be honest I never thought about how it was to be used. Thanks Mr. Pete!

[@mrpete222]

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[@lowcashranch1412]

The detailed information and research is very informative and entertaining. Please keep it up.

[@kensherwin4544]

@2:10 We interrupt this video to plead with you to continue bringing us the wonderful results of your research into things you think might be of interest to us. In the years of watching your efforts, I have yet to wonder "Why did he bother to perpetrate this upon us?" On the other hand,, I have too often been derelict in my thanks to you for that research. So Thank You and please continue.

[@mrpete222]

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[@nottoday62]

Brian from Ma.GREAT video I love my starrett set of mini rules anywho oh love u too Thanks Besafe

[@feathers352]

Never used on of these as I am afraid my work is not very precision but I appreciate the pros and cons of the different methods.

[@NoyAtkinson]

Hi My suggestion would be to make the collet in brass or steel with no slit. Bore out the end of a length of 3/8' or 1/2" round bar and solder or superglue the collet in. Slit then melt it out. Job done.

[@dondotson4604]

I like learning about the tools you show.

[@justinbrewer8408]

I love all the back ground info!

[@ypaulbrown]

I personally love the research you do Sir.....really appreciate all the effort.......PB

[@mrpete222]

Much appreciated I didn’t think anyone in the world cared two hoots about my research

[@charlieromeo7663]

I suppose I have an older Starrett rule set and holder. The holder looks a bit shorter than your Starrett 423 set. Mine has one slot for the scale and it’s at a 30 degree angle. It looks to be fairly old. I inherited it and many other machinist’s tools from a retired tool and die maker. Many of the tools are Starrett, but there is a fair share of B&S and Lufkin. Keep up the good work, Mr. Pete.

[@mrpete222]

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[@cpbethlehem6548]

I love your research. Keep up the great work. Put this on my flea market list. THANK YOU.

[@mrpete222]

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[@rogertaylor1589]

Thank you Lyle. A great St. Pattys day project & Ol Merle would be proud.

[@transmitterguy478]

Excellent video Mr. Pete, I'm going out to the ship now to make a couple tiny rulers, thanks.

[@mrpete222]

Have fun!

[@railfan439]

Just came back from my shop. I made mine from a scrap piece of brass. Thanks. Jon P.S: Mine was an ugly blue used Cushman, not a shiny new handsome Vespa. Jon

[@mrpete222]

My first scooter was an ugly red Cushman. But I loved it, at least I loved it until the Vespa came along.

[@michaelcerkez3895]

Research is Great, I love seeing examples from the multitude of volumes from your library.

[@mrpete222]

😁😁

[@alangrawien103]

I greatly appreciate your research. I hope to one day find some of those old catalogs.

[@danbreyfogle8486]

I always enjoy seeing the research material. It is interesting that some tools such as this one have been around so long and most people probably have no idea they existed. It would be interesting to know if they did sell some of them.

[@67L-88]

You rule Mr Pete !!!

[@rickhand8228]

You are fifty odd years too late with this video! Haha, imagine if someone had suggested we watch a KZbin video in 1970? We ground a lot of valves on the gasoline tractors back then and had to narrow the valve seats but had no scale that would fit down in the combustion chamber so the scale could lay flat on the seat, nor did we have a scale with marks on the end like the short B&S scale you have. The book showed using a short scale with a handle like the Starrett or Lufkin you showed in literature so I made one. We had no machine tools other than the Sioux valve and seat grinders so I hack sawed the slot and soldered in a cut off section of a General scale that I had bought at the hardware store from a card type display. I also bent the rod similar to the drawing you showed. I think I used a worn hacksaw blade and ground the set off with the bench grinder for an inch or so. I really enjoyed your video as it reminded me of all these things I did when I was young!

[@mrpete222]

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[@JamesP_TheShedShop]

Yes, i appreciate the research you do for your videos. This old dog likes learning new tricks. Raises hand...has pin vises😁

[@57WillysCJ]

Thanks for work and research. Of course that keeps you young.

[@stephenlesbos6208]

Thank you for the time you take to research and then educate us. Understanding how to do things "without a DRO" is what I am really interested in. Again, thank you sir.

[@robertwalker7457]

Mate, the research is very much appreciated thanks.

[@hbracerx]

Love the video, the research and the thought processes explained. Many of use have those 3 am thoughts that almost can't wait until the am... Sometimes I have to get up and write them down so I don't forget my epiphones. Since you have a slitting saw, several pieces of aluminum of the correct size and the perfect radius tool, why don't you make a few of these and sell them on Pete-bay? Thanks again for the videos!!

[@johncrable3349]

Hi Mr Pete...I personally think the research you do and show is awesome. It's one of the things that makes your channel superior. Thanks for sharing and have a happy day 😊

[@mrpete222]

Wow, thanks I thought it was falling on deaf ears

[@johnfriend240]

I have all the same make do holders. Great ideas Mr. Pete!!!

[@rodbennett4790]

G'day Tubalcain, I enjoy the research. It's very informative.

[@NoyAtkinson]

Very informative and your research is critical keep up the good work

[@mrpete222]

Thanks, will do!

[@sophielb2551]

Hi Tubal, I picked up a Lufkin 20s on eBay back in 2012 for $18 (and that's Australian $), mine comes in a Fau Leather pouch and is complete! Fantastic tools. Cheers, Ian

[@mrpete222]

Very nice!

[@JIMMY916]

May God give you strenght to amaze us with you talent. We love you, mr. Pete. Greetings from Europe !

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very very much

[@componenx]

I like the angled Lufkin version better; I'm going to have to make one of these! The research is great, too- please keep it up!

[@patrickoquin7215]

I have made similar tools with a slit like that. I double over a piece of emery cloth and stick it in the slot. Makes a great little hone to clean up bores with.I made several diameters and lengths. Stick it in your drill and go 😊

[@mrpete222]

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