You Are Building Miyabi WRONG.

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MrPokke

MrPokke

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@mrpokkee
@mrpokkee Күн бұрын
STOP RIGHT THERE: Watch the whole video first please we spent too much time just for you to skip . . . . . . . . . . My mods are cooked for the Slot 5 Pen, its better than Slot 5 ATK% if you are using Rina + S1, worse if you use Rina + Nicole in the same team, or any other DEF down sources since they both scale worse with one another (although they still scale). ACTUAL TLDR: If using Rina and Rina alone as support, ATK/PEN All others, ATK/ATK especially with good enough crit rate. Yanagi Disorder damage is very substantial in a long fight, 5% increase is worth it alone even if ATK doesn't increase miyabi personal damage as much.
@tlr3758
@tlr3758 Күн бұрын
thank you mr pokkee
@Dzukari
@Dzukari Күн бұрын
Miss these kinds of video from MrChokke. Reminds me of HSR Classroom series
@kerontv6297
@kerontv6297 Күн бұрын
Thanks for the video mr sigma but a 30+ minutes video without any timestamp is too much for my tiny gen z attention span. But you're still my sigma boy
@Direxio
@Direxio Күн бұрын
this was one of the most useful vids ive seen! ty for your effort, i did watch the whole thing but in 1.5x speed 😅
@Kaito_Kirishima
@Kaito_Kirishima 22 сағат бұрын
You know what you need? You need motivation 🍷
@iamrivenous
@iamrivenous Күн бұрын
Few addendums: - Unless you really want to optimize your Miyabi, Slot 4 and 5 mainstats dont matter too much for the average player. Prioritize hitting 80% CR and subs over anything else. Also, the worse your subs, the better CR and CDMG Slot 4 are. Again, this is absolute Min-Maxing, dont sweat about it. - Even if I (or Pokke or any other CC for that matter) try to find the best builds, prioritize fun and stamina efficiency over a 1% dmg increase. Better to build 2 other units instead of wasting 3k Stamina for a 1% better disc drive. - Flat Combat ATK Buffs such as from Lucy or Caesar diminish ATK% in Slot 4. Combat ATK% Sources (i.e. from Lucy Sig Wengine or 4pc Hormone Punk) make ATK% better. For Lucy Sig R5 specifically, this means ATK% is still slightly (
@bjornnilsson2941
@bjornnilsson2941 Күн бұрын
Thanks for the clarification, I was about to comment that if you need Crit Rate slot 4 to hit 80% (essentially you don’t have her sig) all of this is completely useless to you. But it is good to know that if you do have her signature you don’t have to bash your head against the wall looking for that perfect CD slot 4 if you have already got say a double crit ATK slot 4 in your inventory.
@phatasm6351
@phatasm6351 22 сағат бұрын
Deserves a 📌 For myself I was fretting between a 65/168 vs 85/125 and upon testing, the 65/168 does more damage cos my Miyabi is M6W5. The additional crit % & crit dmg bonus allows me to get away with most stuff lol.
@ex_cathedra
@ex_cathedra 21 сағат бұрын
Could you elaborate on this a bit please: "Combat ATK% Sources (i.e. from Lucy Sig Wengine or 4pc Hormone Punk) make ATK% better." What you said about flat combat ATK buffs makes total sense to me, but my understanding is that combat ATK% is basically a final damage multiplier that stacks multiplicatively with everything but itself. Whether you have 1000 base attack or 4000, doesn't 10% combat atk% increase your final damage by 10%? I was under the impression that combat atk% doesn't create any character-building incentives on its own, it scales crit mainstats just as well as it scales pen%, dmg%, or atk% mainstats.
@Raikos100
@Raikos100 19 сағат бұрын
Meanwhile me meta min-maxing my M6 Miyabi: 😡
@iamrivenous
@iamrivenous 18 сағат бұрын
@@ex_cathedra Simplified: ([(Base ATK * ATK%) + Flat ATK] * Combat ATK%) + Flat Combat ATK
@ChaoticVice777
@ChaoticVice777 Күн бұрын
The editors won't provide a timestamp, but that's why viewers also have the option (32:24). Thanks for the analysis.
@kiriu6408
@kiriu6408 Күн бұрын
Thanks for ur service i wasnt tryna watch all that o7
@tsuna111
@tsuna111 Күн бұрын
good job
@tyh6225
@tyh6225 Күн бұрын
👍
@shadowrkz2525
@shadowrkz2525 Күн бұрын
He specifically asked the editors not to include timestamp since he is forced to try out Lucy as well 😂
@miguiREC
@miguiREC Күн бұрын
I will report you for terrorism
@Gyrator
@Gyrator Күн бұрын
Miyabi made bro the rank 1 ZZZ streamer.
@cionaed9912
@cionaed9912 Күн бұрын
Nah that;s still my goat fob
@justjuniorjaw
@justjuniorjaw Күн бұрын
Bro's too addicted to Miyabi and ZZZ, he forgot he got other gachas.
@BugCatLove
@BugCatLove Күн бұрын
Major disclaimer, this is all tested on m2 Miyabi. Don't apply anything you see here for m0. Her m1 is already penetrating 36% defense which skews the numbers in a major way.
@Hjortur95
@Hjortur95 Күн бұрын
is that 36% an independent multiplier or is it defense shred, ice shred, pen?
@MxRz_
@MxRz_ Күн бұрын
He also shows that in the video
@asdf_asdf948
@asdf_asdf948 Күн бұрын
​@@Hjortur95it stacks additively with other def shred
@Raikos100
@Raikos100 19 сағат бұрын
But...I have M6 Miyabi 😢
@Bigdude0444
@Bigdude0444 14 сағат бұрын
​@@Raikos100 Give me your luck and bottomless supply of money. Please and thank you.
@Beard789
@Beard789 Күн бұрын
You are not going to convince me to remove Soukaku lil bro
@MrSaixz
@MrSaixz Күн бұрын
nicole + rina is worse then any other combo anyway but if u use soukaku ur attk percent prolly will be abit less afficient u always wanna balance stat incomes unless its pen ration with rina, then u can stack pen ration as much as game allows, soukaku + rina im pretty sure pen would be best soukakau + lucy prolly ice dmg n so on
@zragon
@zragon Күн бұрын
Soukaku lil bro? Bruh she's a lil sis, an Oni Female
@Dzukari
@Dzukari Күн бұрын
​@@zragon u need to improve ur english. Lil bro is to call mrpokke
@PoyoPoyomfs
@PoyoPoyomfs Күн бұрын
I need Rina for my harumasa anyways
@zragon
@zragon Күн бұрын
@@Dzukari i see, sorry about that, i misUnderstood But hey, comma ( , ) exist, i guess people nowadays don't even bother to use it to form better sentence.
@brandonspikes
@brandonspikes Күн бұрын
Pen is 1-3% better if you use Rina, in every other Scenario ATK% and Ice is better, and even then, the difference is not noticeable in real time runs. Pick whatever has the best Crit and Attack substats Saved you 33 mins. We knew about this weeks before she came out thanks to Theorycrafters. Your goal should be getting as much CD and ATK% as possible after hitting 80% base crit rate, max CR you should aim on the stat sheet is 88% since she gets 12% from the 4 pc.
@renorzeta
@renorzeta Күн бұрын
what lvl did Pokke set in training room ?
@Kspice9000
@Kspice9000 Күн бұрын
Neat. I swapped to pen% recently, not using rina with her. Even then the dmg drop is only slightly noticeable with yanagi burnice. Switching to atk% as soon as possible, ice if possible.
@Zergling.
@Zergling. Күн бұрын
👍 While i am here what is a baseline for atk% to cd? cr is 80-88% but what about the other? i might have too much cd and not enough atk% on mine, have 2500 atk% and 250 cd, is it better if i drop 50% cd to get 3k+ atk%?
@Kspice9000
@Kspice9000 Күн бұрын
​@Zergling. Yeah you want around 3k atk atleast. If you can for 4th sub stat, go anomaly. You don't need any rolls into but it doesn't hurt for 1 roll out of 5 to go into, gets you to 300 ap.
@mrpokkee
@mrpokkee Күн бұрын
ACHSUALLY CDMG is directly worse than ATK%, if u had to choose between cdmg or atk% after 80 crit, atk wins in every scenario especially after factoring yanagi disorder procs. For example 80 crit rate/100 cdmg/3.5k atk is better than 80/crit rate/150 cdmg/3k atk (cdmg is 4.8% atk is 3% per substat roll i just randomly said a number)
@27Ganon
@27Ganon 2 сағат бұрын
All of this will be meaningless once Astra Yao comes out, unless you don't use Astra with Miyabi.
@code8825
@code8825 Күн бұрын
But the game yells at me and tells me to use different discs if I don’t use what they recommend, I want my Miyabi to say “fully built” on the bottom of her stats page
@dreameisters
@dreameisters 12 сағат бұрын
After Astra Yao released, "You are building Miyabi wrong wrong."
@ngkiantongmoe8590
@ngkiantongmoe8590 Күн бұрын
Bro got m1 rina and now is a pen ratio gooner
@anon4767
@anon4767 Күн бұрын
9:02 I'm not sure if you're aware, but PEN in ZZZ is just DEF ignore instead of the RES PEN we're familiar with in Star Rail. That being said, if we combine M1 Miyabi M1 Rina and PEN Ratio mainstat (36+39+24) you end up with a whopping 99 DEF ignore. So before you even applied Nicole's 40% DEF shred, you were already 1% off from 100% DEF ignore thus making Nicole's existence on the team pointless. The only reason the damage went up as much as it did is because Nicole's engine gives a 24% DMG bonus against targets hit by her EX special/Chain/Ult.
@RomaNepl
@RomaNepl Күн бұрын
Pen% and def% are different variables and they scale differently
@jc_mosh
@jc_mosh Күн бұрын
Pen٪ and DEF shred don't scale additively; they are multiplicative...
@anon4767
@anon4767 Күн бұрын
@RomaNepl DEF% shred and PEN Ratio scale differently, but DEF ignore and PEN Ratio are the SAME. If you have 100% of one, the other is rendered useless. DEF% shred does nothing if you already fully ignore DEF, simple.
@anon4767
@anon4767 Күн бұрын
@@jc_mosh Correct, but i never said it did. PEN Ratio and DEF IGNORE stacks additively, and since he's basically at 100% DEF ignore then shredding it serves no purpose.
@jc_mosh
@jc_mosh Күн бұрын
@@anon4767 according to your comment you did... it's not 0.36+0.39+0.24, it is (0.36)(0.39+0.24)
@Wolfi3TheFox
@Wolfi3TheFox Күн бұрын
bro is the glue for zzz (i aint rebuilding my miyabi)
@DDRdavo
@DDRdavo Күн бұрын
Also arent you gonna suffer from diminishing returns if you use a +1000 atk buffer? And what if we get a support who boosts atk by 1500? Seems like this is not going to hold true for very long
@GatsuRage
@GatsuRage Күн бұрын
Conclusion: 32:25 💩
@GrowAndSmoke
@GrowAndSmoke 4 сағат бұрын
You’re the 🐐
@PyroTorch69
@PyroTorch69 Күн бұрын
This told me nothing about soukaku wolfman team.
@desmondsim7881
@desmondsim7881 2 сағат бұрын
I tested with ellen. A higher atk stats do more dmg than a 30% increase in crit dmg. @ 77% crit% + 20% from engine 2800 atk 200% Crit dmg vs 3400 atk 170% crit dmg. The latter deal more dmg. I tested by doing the same move on a mob in training mode. The former could not kill while the latter with higher atk could kill the mob
@Glowgus
@Glowgus Күн бұрын
Blud went from tourist to tour guide to Local
@SirLexion
@SirLexion Күн бұрын
Pretty big L by not mentioning Soukaku and Lycaon team up. Absolute monster dps buffs with the attack, ice damage boost, and extra ice res decrease.
@dreameisters
@dreameisters 12 сағат бұрын
This.
@HansG02
@HansG02 21 сағат бұрын
bro what is this scuffed napkin testing: -testing m2 screwing results by default because of the defense shred of m1 -testing in VR where enemies have lower defense/hp as in shiyu or any content that matters lol -ofc Nicole ex buff won't give that big of an increase, because you're overcapping def shred. You can only shred 100% of the defense ICANT -why is at 15:00 the dmg 60404k with crit dmg 4th slot and at 17:53 only 53204 with crit dmg 4th slot?? -all that testing is worthless, because Astra gives a 1.5k attack buff so Atk% is even worth less on 4th slot than crit in a month
@ch1dd
@ch1dd 14 сағат бұрын
IIRC the way the damage formula works in this game you can keep stacking atk%, different from the others where element bonus% has it's own factor. This is why there's so little difference with elemental disc 5 when it would be much more noticeable in the others.
@plill0_wmcfethers708
@plill0_wmcfethers708 17 сағат бұрын
0:21 absolute cinema ✋😐🤚
@rizzz___
@rizzz___ Күн бұрын
Interesting, the diminishing interaction of Deff down and PEN i believe also happen in HSR.
@bjornnilsson2941
@bjornnilsson2941 Күн бұрын
Yes PEN Ratio is just DEF ignore and if you lower the enemy’s DEF the less of it you are ignoring. Flat PEN benefits from it instead but it’s already not a very impressive stat.
@kirbgaming8192
@kirbgaming8192 Күн бұрын
I've come to realize that sokaku was not mentioned :( Im crazy with (soon to be) m2w1 miyabi (crit dmg, ice dmg, AM since cant find a good atk one) with lycon and m6 sokaku (AP 4th) hyper carry
@justcrap3703
@justcrap3703 Күн бұрын
I'm doing 90-100k with Nicole def shred and Soukaku atk bonus.
@minyaw1234
@minyaw1234 Күн бұрын
Wait, Miyabi/Lucy does more damage with critdmg while only providing 600atk. Caesar provides 1k so the difference in favor of crit dmg should be higher the more atk your supports provide.
@Kspice9000
@Kspice9000 Күн бұрын
Bro this isn't taking into account the differences in Frostburn dmg which are ranging drastically.
@danielsantos-hp7kh
@danielsantos-hp7kh 23 сағат бұрын
Right? The frostburn damage difference was insane
@atomiccore75
@atomiccore75 22 сағат бұрын
So ATK% in 4 and 5 slots = bigger Frostburn and better DPS overall?
@SilverFiestar
@SilverFiestar 17 сағат бұрын
​@atomiccore75 my best result is atk atk cdmg , 3250 atk 360 ano 61 crit 133cdmg
@thapotatonater827
@thapotatonater827 8 сағат бұрын
As a f2p who got sig honesty It doesn’t really matter what your running in 4/5 as long as the sub stats are good and you get 80% Crit rate, my 4 is Crit Dam and 5 is Attack, and my ratio is 75.4 Crit (+12 in combat) and 166.8 Crit damage (+80 in combat -weapon/set bonus) and I’m just running her with Von and Sokaku. So when i get everything procked I’m at 87.4 CR and 246.8 CD.
@sixthsenseasian
@sixthsenseasian 4 сағат бұрын
I don't have Yanagi. I use Miyabi with Grace and Rina. However the difference in damage seems negligible for disorder. So I think I'll just go for whichever disc has the better rolls between my disc 4 atk% and crit dmg discs.
@sixthsenseasian
@sixthsenseasian 3 сағат бұрын
After watching the full video. Using Rina, I might consider switching Miyabi's 4th disc to atk%, but only if I find a disc with crit rate sub stat. Because I'm not M2, I'm using an M0. And I already have trouble getting the 80% crit rate threshold with my current discs.
@kobskamylie
@kobskamylie Күн бұрын
Dont you think you should account for the frostburn dmg?
@arnavverma7854
@arnavverma7854 Күн бұрын
AM i okay to assume the disorder is the same for burnice (i dont have yanagi) and atk atk is just the best in slot generally speaking
@roflkoptarakamidorfeed2154
@roflkoptarakamidorfeed2154 Күн бұрын
Pls can you test Harumasa with 4 pice Polar metal and 2 pice Elektrik set ? this set have dash dmg boost from max 40% and play harumasa with Lyacon and soukako and play the 4 star engin from Anton of 5 this engin have a 80% Elektrik dmg boost on base attack and dash attacks
@worm8886
@worm8886 Сағат бұрын
is miyabi rina nicole team better or miyabi soukaku lycaon team better? (also what plugboo for rina team)
@Inferno-97
@Inferno-97 21 сағат бұрын
Thaaaaats craaaazy after all. Thanks fore so hard cocking. 🙏 atk atk out Performanz all thats crazy.
@Pokeflame
@Pokeflame Күн бұрын
Pen Slot 5 should be even better with a Pen 2pc, no? Time to get back to in the lab. (But really, fun video! Thanks for the testing. Our streamer. Hail Pokke.)
@joevilinom.5003
@joevilinom.5003 Күн бұрын
Why does my miyabi m1 with sokaku and lycoan is hitting 80-90k? Im building crit miyabi, idk if I want to change it or not.
@soundplayground3742
@soundplayground3742 19 сағат бұрын
Don't change anything. You have a good build already LOL!
@tonberry7417
@tonberry7417 Күн бұрын
So if I use Ice dmg with overall Atk from the substats touching 2900, does it became a sweet spot ?
@v_cyclone
@v_cyclone Күн бұрын
what about soukaku?
@nymklaymin8281
@nymklaymin8281 16 сағат бұрын
Would it not be easier to get a balanced damage numbers if you keep your disk sets at 0 and the sub stats are mainly hp and def% the only change would be the ice, Attack and PEN for slot 5? Do you need Max stats or Ideal stats for THIS kind of testing? If it was a video comparing crit with other damages you might need to max your disk drives but since about different stats does it need to be hurting your bank in order to find out witch is best? would the numbers still not go up or down at level 0?
@ch1dd
@ch1dd 14 сағат бұрын
Of course it's needed, how are you gonna test the mainstat difference when they're not leveled?
@clearingskies
@clearingskies 23 сағат бұрын
Everyone told me that I was crazy for going for atk % over crit dmg for slot 4 🤣 It's great that you actually did more testing with this.
@ethericdezigns1528
@ethericdezigns1528 Күн бұрын
I ran pen in disk 5 before switching over to ice damage, on Miyabi. I wonder if the patch screwd up the pen damage. Before patch i dealt big damage with Yanagi and reached up too 800 thousand in Hollow Zero.
@irlinaka2754
@irlinaka2754 Күн бұрын
I believe you cant bring down defence/ignore defence below 100%, just like in hsr. This is why nikole dmg increase so low in second setup.
@genuinewanderer7129
@genuinewanderer7129 22 сағат бұрын
this is for around 10:40. I think the higher numbers are tied to the dmg increase of your W-engine.
@aramisknight5786
@aramisknight5786 23 сағат бұрын
I did the same tests and my lighter and Lucy buff her significantly from raw attack doing 28000 to 68000 w/buff
@starryskyhighway9628
@starryskyhighway9628 16 сағат бұрын
i use ice disc 5 got both cd/cr substats but all upgrade went to atk+15%. i dont see reason to use atk disc 5 now over just 15% atk difference. ice dmg better for me all the way right?
@AngelTyraelGM
@AngelTyraelGM Күн бұрын
not sure how much this matters, but what about Frostburn - Break witch is 1500% of Miyabi's ATK , i think it might scale even more overall, hard to say since this one scales with critrate/crit dmg as well, didnt see anyone test frostburn break yet T.T
@Youngrezzie
@Youngrezzie 15 сағат бұрын
Definitely a topic to revisit when Astra comes out
@tavinhoo
@tavinhoo 18 сағат бұрын
So atk is better than ice dmg? And how much crit rate should my miyabi have?
@kennethyoung7457
@kennethyoung7457 Күн бұрын
This is why you get her W engine it has the crit value of having both a crit rate and crit dmg drive disc 4 on.
@taariqmoosa8200
@taariqmoosa8200 20 сағат бұрын
Ahh so my build is currently still fine Maybe I’ll tweak a few disks here and there at a later stage but I think 3.4K Attack - 80CR & 138CD is alright for now
@coreypasternak9435
@coreypasternak9435 23 сағат бұрын
I cant afford M2 Miyabi because it took me 112 pulls to get Miyabi at all and then I got her engine thankfully won her engine and then I pulled for Harumasa's engine because I want to build him too and now my Miyabi I have her crit rate at 82% I cant really go any higher than that and her crit damage is 125% I have might be a little low on that but atleast I met the minimum of 80% crit rate that u need for Miyabi but now Im busy building Harumasa he's level 57 always running out of upgrade materials so im waiting for battery as always sometimes spent some polychrome for battery but not a lot I want to save it so I think I didn't build my Miyabi wrong I just dont have her M2 and cannot get that lol and the discs for Miyabi Im using is like 4 branch and song and the rest woodpecker
@Mmaniac93
@Mmaniac93 33 минут бұрын
Imagine they release a support character that nearly doubles your attack and therefore crit / ice damage / anomaly mastery are still the best main stats in 3 weeks time. Hoyo would never do that, would they? Starve a character out of attack sources and then sell you just the right soulition you needed.
@ErdingerLi
@ErdingerLi 20 сағат бұрын
Wait wait wait. Can i confirm something, the full stat screen on the first page doesn't add the 24% extra crit rate given by the sig weapon?? Or am i understanding wrongly? Please advise, thanks!
@ch1dd
@ch1dd 14 сағат бұрын
From weapon yes, the +27% he's talking about is m2+disc set bonus
@ErdingerLi
@ErdingerLi 9 сағат бұрын
@ch1dd oh... So woodpecker elec +8% will not be reflected?
@ch1dd
@ch1dd 9 сағат бұрын
@@ErdingerLi It is. Only things that have to be triggered in combat don't, in this case it's the 4piece of her disc that gives 12% crit rate after the enemy is frozen or shattered
@ErdingerLi
@ErdingerLi 8 сағат бұрын
@@ch1dd ahh okok so in-battle triggers with requirements will not be reflected, but any other bonuses that does not require any interaction while in battle will be reflected. As per my initial assumption. Thanks!
@KDM0X7
@KDM0X7 Күн бұрын
Bro just refuses to acknowledge soukaku
@Eclectic.Nostalgia
@Eclectic.Nostalgia 9 сағат бұрын
What if you use Miyabi+Yanagi+Rina?
@nayanboro8552
@nayanboro8552 20 сағат бұрын
So basically if you are M0 and go Atk + Atk and build Crit rate through Substats around 70 to 80 which everybody says necessary then what about Crit damage?. I may have lost something correct me someone. What I understood here is that Atk + Atk is better and M2 is necessary for Crit Rate and rest Crit Damage substats😮😮😮 Dang it poor me💔
@Dzukari
@Dzukari Күн бұрын
Gotta give MrChokke the credits for the dedication. The editors too 😅
@RomaNepl
@RomaNepl Күн бұрын
Wouldn't ATK% disc 4 be worse than Crit dmg IF you used an attak% buffing support(soukaku, Lucy, Astra?)
@diazpramudita5165
@diazpramudita5165 21 сағат бұрын
Yes it is. But the difference is very small. Tested on M3R1 with Soukaku.
@kune6208
@kune6208 18 сағат бұрын
So i should go attack on all slots?
@Gray_Fox115
@Gray_Fox115 Күн бұрын
I have m2s1 miyabi and currently have 2 options. One disk have me at 84% crit rate and 109 crit dmg on stat screen and the other has me at 64 crit rate and 152 crit dmg. Which one should I use?
@mrgree3n
@mrgree3n Күн бұрын
Push Ur crit to 70/150 and I think it's good
@mrgree3n
@mrgree3n Күн бұрын
If you can't the I deal stat is 80/120
@diazpramudita5165
@diazpramudita5165 21 сағат бұрын
With M2 your CR would be 84 + 15 + 12 or 64 + 15 + 12. So pick the 64 CR.
@evarix4760
@evarix4760 Күн бұрын
If you use Astra Yao with her, do you still want an ATK% Disc or would it get oversaturated
@raving_puzzler
@raving_puzzler Күн бұрын
So if I’m running rina, Yanagi, miyabi, I should use 4th slot atk main and 5th slot pen main?
@Zeblon44
@Zeblon44 Күн бұрын
Keep in mind he still had the 80% crit rate for the passive even without crit rate slot4 if u can't get enough crit rate it's not worth it
@raving_puzzler
@raving_puzzler Күн бұрын
@ my apologies but I don’t fully understand what your saying. Are you saying that I need to have 80% crit rate for miyabi?
@JunoAndIce
@JunoAndIce Күн бұрын
@@raving_puzzleryeah. 80% crit to max out her anomaly buildup on her core skill.
@raving_puzzler
@raving_puzzler 17 сағат бұрын
@ so if I get 80% crit rate, should I run 4th slot atk main stat and 5th slot pen main stat since I would have the maximum core skill passive? Or would a 5th slot atk main stat be better?
@Dandy4ask
@Dandy4ask Күн бұрын
I say if you cant hit 80 CR without the main stat go for the CR mainstat
@bluechicken8626
@bluechicken8626 Күн бұрын
From tourist to tour guide 👍
@liquid_cheese9930
@liquid_cheese9930 23 сағат бұрын
With all due respect, for those things sheet calcs are much better then testing with your own drive discs.
@DDRdavo
@DDRdavo Күн бұрын
What I took away from this video is that Rina is pretty good.
@TheCrazyramen
@TheCrazyramen Күн бұрын
Where us the Soukaku test with the 1000+ flat to damage ?
@dyeluke7236
@dyeluke7236 Күн бұрын
I tested CD and atk% 6% atk on CD piece and 9.6% CD on. My CD piece has +18 pen I was getting higher numbers with my CD piece, between 3-4%, so I’m gonna just stick with it. Not gonna spend thousands of fuel for +1% dmg I used soukaku for all my testing My miyabi is 2794 atk, 75.4 CR, 166.8 CD, with Ice dmg%
@definitelynotahedgehog9461
@definitelynotahedgehog9461 Күн бұрын
I think using sokaku for the test is why CD did better for you. The amount of attack sokaku grants, gives miyabi diminishing returns on any attack stats. If any new limited agents that were to come out that give as much attack as sokaku, then Crit damage will just do more. If not than attack will fair better
@vaxu8380
@vaxu8380 23 сағат бұрын
I was testing clear times (M0R1 Miyabi) with both CDMG and ATK% with Caesar It ended up being p much even, so I just stayed with ATK% since it scales better with units that don't boost your attack (I like using Lycaon) 3532 atk, 73% CR, 123.6% CDMG with all atk% main stats But yeah even the differences on sheets are 3% at best so sub stats are the main factor
@diazpramudita5165
@diazpramudita5165 21 сағат бұрын
M3R1 here. My test with Soukaku also resulted in CD being better than Atk in slot 4. In the end it depends on specific case by case team, and in general it doesn't matter as long as we play around CD/CR/Atk/Ice on disc 4 & 5.
@rengoki
@rengoki Күн бұрын
I have m2 rina, and an m0 s1 miyabi no yanagi or Bernice
@veezerrscharnhorst
@veezerrscharnhorst Күн бұрын
I've been getting down voted many times in reddit by saying cdm is bad for miyabi. But pokke prove me right
@brosephstinson1297
@brosephstinson1297 Күн бұрын
Wait, what about the fact you are critting less? Like if you have 67% crate +27% you are losing 6% of crits.
@TronKon100
@TronKon100 Күн бұрын
Is ATK% on slot 5 still better than Ice DMG% if I have Caesar in Miyabi team?
@GerriFuryman
@GerriFuryman Күн бұрын
No, if you have anyone buffing atk, atk slot is getting worse, slot 6 is atk, slot 5 should be elem%
@TronKon100
@TronKon100 Күн бұрын
@GerriFuryman ahh okay thx
@diazpramudita5165
@diazpramudita5165 21 сағат бұрын
On my M3R1 with 1000 flat Atk from Soukaku, Ice dmg is better than Atk% slot 5, but the difference is very small.
@ken__6490
@ken__6490 Күн бұрын
is miyabi, soukaku, rina good?
@unholyarthur1
@unholyarthur1 Күн бұрын
At least bruh is honest about the timestamp.
@alexmejia5451
@alexmejia5451 Күн бұрын
i lowkey use lighter and lucy for miyabi and she be hitting around 65k on non stunned enemies lol(after a disorder tho)
@alexmejia5451
@alexmejia5451 Күн бұрын
i use crit rate for slot 4 and ice for slot 5 she is at m0 with weapon and lucy has m6w5 and lighter is m0w0(before i get into a fight she sits at 82.6 crit rate and 118.8 critdmg with 2,851 atk and 301 proficiency)
@PepperoniRonin.
@PepperoniRonin. Күн бұрын
I don't have lighter coz I missed that banner so I use Koleda in his place... no idea how good it is compared to lighter but it should be the same thing I guess... right? Both fire both stun units?😂
@alexmejia5451
@alexmejia5451 Күн бұрын
@ I WISH 😭☠️he has ice shred but koleda doesn’t ☹️
@drunkdumpling
@drunkdumpling Күн бұрын
I've heard some ppl says Miyabi need Anomaly Mastery on Disc 6 because if Shiyu Defense's seasonal buff doesnt increase Ice Anomaly Buildup Rate, she's gonna have a hard time freezing the enemies. Ur point on this? Cuz i dont wanna change my good looking Disc 6 ATK%
@QMS9224
@QMS9224 Күн бұрын
Pen and anomaly mastery is diabolical
@justjuniorjaw
@justjuniorjaw Күн бұрын
I mean the easiest way to check is to see if you apply enough to do a Frostburn in whatever content you're doing. At the end of the day, AM is more of a QoL buff over a damage buff.
@slaire6892
@slaire6892 Күн бұрын
I want to test a lot of stuff with my M2U1 but so far I've had Diabolical runs with Freedom blues Lycaon (Impact 6 w/ Koleda Sig) + Soukaku w/ anomaly on 6-slot and 2pc-Jazz with 4pc-new set. Idk if its a good time (relative to other miyabi teams) since I haven't looked at other clears, but on shiyu 7 - 1st half. I finished in 1:12. Miyabi has core-7, basic-12, 9-Skill and Ult. Miyabi has atk-6, ice-5, c.rate-4 (104% c.rate and around 200% c.dmg with full buffs from set, wengine and m2)
@UsernameisMac
@UsernameisMac Күн бұрын
ive been so confused on what to use on her thanks
@migcarlos1906
@migcarlos1906 22 сағат бұрын
I don't think this test is ideal because of substats. I don't wanna explain it since my head hurts but yeah
@rizqizen4528
@rizqizen4528 Күн бұрын
So double atk is great Also as someone that dont hv rina, M6 w6 lucy amazing
@joolzc
@joolzc Күн бұрын
I watched it all even without her sig weapon
@neroma6964
@neroma6964 Күн бұрын
Also pen losing isn't just cuz you have m1 def down?
@Dzukari
@Dzukari Күн бұрын
No. It stacks with Nicole DEF down to and still losing. I do believe because the ATK% is not high enough (cause u switching to PEN) so the DEF doesnt increase the dmg that much
@neroma6964
@neroma6964 23 сағат бұрын
@@Dzukari pen ratio will not stack with Def down so when he has M1 it already lowers the value of pen
@Dzukari
@Dzukari 22 сағат бұрын
@@neroma6964 I meant the m1 def down stacks with nicole def down
@neroma6964
@neroma6964 22 сағат бұрын
@@Dzukari and what it had to do with my point that Def down M1 is bad with pen
@JAN0L
@JAN0L 21 сағат бұрын
Same goes for substats BTW. ATK% is very strong.
@okazaki-i
@okazaki-i Күн бұрын
I got ice dmg with crit dmg and crit rate up 😂
@holleey
@holleey 14 сағат бұрын
I think you did pen% a little dirty by not testing against a 952 def enemy, but it seems like the standard Dullahan is very high as well with 921 def, so it probably didn't matter.
@Qopa
@Qopa Күн бұрын
I do feel like dmg% in ZZZ is a lot worse than GI and HSR 😂😂 Pen ratio is definitely the reason why
@jundahbalafif
@jundahbalafif Күн бұрын
"laugh in ice dmg bonus"
@thaitoan4760
@thaitoan4760 Күн бұрын
The way I understand why Pen doesn’t work with Def down is like this: If you are already Penetrating someone armor, reduce the armor toughness won’t make it much more effective since you are already penetrated it. The goal of of Def down was to make the weapon easier to pen thru BUT if you’re already penetrated then…
@NovikovProhor
@NovikovProhor 22 сағат бұрын
Bro's reducing crit RATE stat and then comparing crit strikes like its 100% CR
@kalschne
@kalschne 18 сағат бұрын
No bro, she kills anything even without discs
@notabe8507
@notabe8507 Күн бұрын
can’t watch without timestamps
@wiseman_snap7346
@wiseman_snap7346 22 сағат бұрын
No, we are certainly not.
@thaleswagner
@thaleswagner 15 сағат бұрын
Me whit Ceasar and Soukaku ✨
@brosephstinson1297
@brosephstinson1297 Күн бұрын
my Ice% 5 slot has +3 cDmg and +2 Anomaly... Yikes.
@royalgames6090
@royalgames6090 22 сағат бұрын
I'm already using 3 atk pieces So I'm not building my miyabi wrong let's gooo 🔥🔥😁
@loctran9728
@loctran9728 Күн бұрын
I'm gonna add the time stamp
@bushy9780
@bushy9780 21 сағат бұрын
bro is mathing out
@moneyChaserDave
@moneyChaserDave Күн бұрын
nah aint got time for that thx for the timestamp top commenter
@tyh6225
@tyh6225 Күн бұрын
m2s1 test 😱
@Corteslatinodude
@Corteslatinodude Күн бұрын
EXCUSE ME POKKE RELIC 1:17 ? bro is falling off hard. 😂😂😂
@IshyMimic
@IshyMimic Күн бұрын
bro is too deep in the sauce 😂
@Corteslatinodude
@Corteslatinodude Күн бұрын
@@IshyMimic 🤣
@GoldenFireball_23
@GoldenFireball_23 Күн бұрын
Man, the upload schedule is bountiful
@ayayato_
@ayayato_ Күн бұрын
MrPokke may say YOU are building Miyabi wrong, but the 𝓡𝓮𝓪𝓵 question is; are YOU building YOUR life right? Seek truth my friend, may the Erudition guide you on your journey to answer the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything....- ..---
@scarletfuror9229
@scarletfuror9229 Күн бұрын
tourist trying to be the tour guide? hahaha
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