What Happened to Argenti? | Honkai: Star Rail

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MrPokke

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@aquasis995
@aquasis995 21 сағат бұрын
you can measure the healthiness of PF as an endgame mode by how easily Argenti can clear it.
@persleng1536
@persleng1536 21 сағат бұрын
Not for long, Argentina doesnt account for inflation
@Accountthatexists
@Accountthatexists 20 сағат бұрын
​@@persleng1536especially cause hes a "hypercarry" and not a dual dps unit like jade or herys
@jaceee4154
@jaceee4154 19 сағат бұрын
Wrong its how easy herta can clear it. Why tf would i base a game mode on a 5 star vs a free 4 star
@daijoubun6648
@daijoubun6648 19 сағат бұрын
why is everyone assuming that one singular 5 star should be able to clear PF easily regardless of element or mob type? Every unit in the game has their strengths and weaknesses even within the mode they excel in. There should be no expectation for one unit to just automatically be good regardless.
@jakekinder2351
@jakekinder2351 18 сағат бұрын
@@daijoubun6648 Hoyoverse sells Pure fiction bots at a premium. Eruditions who only work in Pure fiction. Yet Argenti, Jade, and Rappa(with no Lingsha) all AVG score below expectations this cycle. The product isn’t working correctly. Imagine if Boothill was failing to break gauges in Apoc and scored below Yanqing. That’s how dumb Argenti scoring worse than Welt is.
@justjuniorjaw
@justjuniorjaw 21 сағат бұрын
Basic ahh mechanics, for mid damage scaling for a DPS. That's my take on him. Nowadays, DPS has essays for their kits. Heck, we got a meme of Jade's passive being only 5 words short than the whole Argenti's kit description (which includes Argenti's basic, skill, Ultimate (Both Versions) and Talent's description.
@halftimebeing6401
@halftimebeing6401 20 сағат бұрын
Yeah at the end of the day Blade, Argenti and jing liu would still be viable if the simply had higher stats. Sure the kits of modern units are also more stacked but Argenti with a 30-50% dmg increase would solve all his problems in pf
@echlorianbysheler5901
@echlorianbysheler5901 20 сағат бұрын
I really love argenti, his playstyle and just how his kit is
@vixxsuna
@vixxsuna 20 сағат бұрын
SAMEE, he’s the first character I got eidolons for and I don’t regret it. He may not be top tier compared to others but he’s my favorite. I can’t wait until we get more Argenti lore
@why-so-toxic_1413
@why-so-toxic_1413 21 сағат бұрын
Argenti is my king I will never give up on my king my beautiful king but in all seriousness this pf was not good for him
@cesarpedrazamartinezgarcia725
@cesarpedrazamartinezgarcia725 21 сағат бұрын
Maybe he's never been top clearer but he has been my saver for all modes whenever i got to slot physical
@mauriciorosademoraes9209
@mauriciorosademoraes9209 20 сағат бұрын
Argenti is rising again to T0 in 2.7 He's a Hypercarry unit that needs energy regen supports. Sparkle can't make he good but in 2.7 there's someone that can AND, the new format of PF is much better for him.
@Accountthatexists
@Accountthatexists 20 сағат бұрын
Sunday will at least give him the extra dmg to one shot little mobs with small ult
@h33day
@h33day 16 сағат бұрын
The fact that enemies spawn in 4 instead of 5 for the first 2 waves is gimps him the most. Hoyo probably tested it with 5 for every wave then realized Firefly couldn't clear it so they swapped it to 4 lmao.
@Indian_gae_boii
@Indian_gae_boii 16 сағат бұрын
he couldnt even kill the mobs with his ult here lmaoo
@ancalyme
@ancalyme 15 сағат бұрын
​@@h33day Every day I find a new reason to hate Firefly lol
@mangasinatanaelpanjaitan3048
@mangasinatanaelpanjaitan3048 14 сағат бұрын
​@@h33dayWhy do you mention Firefly when if they put 5 enemies in the early waves then Lingsha would've annihilated them faster for her team? It being 4 enemies is a handicap them as well
@BigSpore
@BigSpore 19 сағат бұрын
My E0S1 Argenti with E2 Sparkle does better in MoC than PF 😂. I can clear current MoC first side in 3 Cycles but I can’t get 30k on either side for this PF 😢
@tangman9890
@tangman9890 14 сағат бұрын
That's cos this PF is really bad for him and nothing of the available buffs is of any use. The new set if you don't have it greatly helps him
@onoud9417
@onoud9417 18 сағат бұрын
The new changes to pure fiction might help him out so we'll see in 2.7. Personally, I never regretted getting Argenti bc he clears everything for me, especially in apocalyptic shadow, if there's phys weakness
@AzureDrag0n1
@AzureDrag0n1 20 сағат бұрын
At 0E Sparkle is better than E0 Robin for Argenti in my experience. You get a higher frequency of attacks. It is especially good if you are using a hyper speed Sparkle with DDD and wind set.
@joedonuts675
@joedonuts675 20 сағат бұрын
I really felt that *heart throb sound, close-up over my eyes, "no way.."* When you started talking like that.. 👁 👄 👁
@lordradiance2530
@lordradiance2530 19 сағат бұрын
2 big things here are Pokke isnt running the new ULT DAMAGE and SKILL set (argentis sources of damage). And presumeably tingyun wasnt on sacerdos. I cant see the icons though so maybe im wrong on that half. More importantly though its speaking for how increasingly unbalanced pf is becoming
@milosradenkovic3790
@milosradenkovic3790 12 сағат бұрын
Argenti+Robin+HuoHuo+Herta seem like the best team - Argenti sweeps everyone's HP, and Herta spins a few times after he deals with them => using Robin's ult damage mostly focused on those that remain, but still being useful in clearing AoE as well (as well as for a lot of actions for Robin to charge off of, but the moment you don't, you got no DDD). Sometimes it's a good trade-off.
@nphirea3172
@nphirea3172 20 сағат бұрын
Robin blasting a song in the background while Argenti suffers PF is such a funny image
@xeali1
@xeali1 18 сағат бұрын
3:25 face of realization
@leimatzunkyo5586
@leimatzunkyo5586 19 сағат бұрын
Argenti has typical problem of the 1.c character: Boring kit: Literally skill, do damage, ult, do damage and nothing else, not even a special charge, it's energy. His scalings might seem big, but for 180 energy, it isn't worth it. People even was wary of this and they were right, in any scenarios other than 5 enemies, Argenti takes almost a cycle and a half to fully charge. For a scales that is as much as Yunli's one ult? That's just sad, even if it has smart targettings, its scalings is still too mediocre to meet the standards.
@tuananhdang7385
@tuananhdang7385 11 сағат бұрын
yall say this, but thats literally just FF kit
@colonelcider8292
@colonelcider8292 11 сағат бұрын
The crazy thing is that you say because of the new units, the old units shine less But I don't think that's applicable to Argenti as Herta and Himiko both shine brighter despite being older
@ladyhdwastaken
@ladyhdwastaken 20 сағат бұрын
7:20 damn tingyun really fell off as our aeon of preservation
@TheWaifuConnoisseur
@TheWaifuConnoisseur 20 сағат бұрын
Yunli better
@joshuaqwertyx
@joshuaqwertyx 19 сағат бұрын
Yes and feet 😋
@alonelycacti
@alonelycacti 18 сағат бұрын
​@@joshuaqwertyxGet out 🙏
@Nick-nb2oz
@Nick-nb2oz 5 сағат бұрын
I thought your huo huo healed very little tbh, you have stacked so much speed on her that her hp is lacking and her lc doesnt give her healing boost either, so its not shocking she was barely healing, im sure you have your strats with speedy huo huo+quid pro quo especially for this energy hungry team, but in my exp a slower huo huo with 7k hp and a healing boost lightcone will never let your team even close to death. She obv wont heal much if she doesnt have any stats for healing, it wasnt a good position for her in that team to be focused on energy battery. Linghsa fortunately doesnt have that problem because her heals scale off her must-have stat and shes also not used as an energy battery usually
@Goldenfire49
@Goldenfire49 3 сағат бұрын
I was wondering this. Like. I never struggle this hard with E0 Huo huo. 6.9k hp + S0 Sig is what I run and she rarely lets me down. Free healing and everyone's ult becoming an emergency heal... yes please.
@Nick-nb2oz
@Nick-nb2oz 2 сағат бұрын
@@Goldenfire49 for real, I have never seen a huo huo not heal the entire team to full with a skill until I saw this video...
@dimitristakis6396
@dimitristakis6396 9 сағат бұрын
When will mrpokke stop making e2 robin showcases???🎉
@camelnotllama
@camelnotllama 21 сағат бұрын
Free Argenti🎉 Free 4 star Argenti 😂 Free 4 star > Argent 💀
@4_rol4
@4_rol4 19 сағат бұрын
46:15 top 10 worst misplays of all time
@tayty1238
@tayty1238 12 сағат бұрын
Sunday gonna make argenti great again
@rotonek2887
@rotonek2887 20 сағат бұрын
He just does no proper damage, the fact that aoe units have to have a trash damage to compensate for their aoe will always lead to this
@izumolee6714
@izumolee6714 18 сағат бұрын
Argenti has the same problem as Jing Yuan as both of them have back loaded damage whereas other characters who are similar (Erudition) like Herta, Jade, Himeko do more consistent damage due to their follow ups. Argenti has a skill that does wet noodle damage and needs to wait to build up to his Ult which even that has mid multipliers. In Pure Fiction it is better to do consistent damage every turn than wait for that one big hit every other turn.
@ayulilengmian
@ayulilengmian 21 сағат бұрын
哇,玫瑰哥 老师,为什么不开草莓土司的双倍大招呢
@mirei9225
@mirei9225 20 сағат бұрын
不需要啊,小大招就把小的秒了,用两倍大招很亏。
@ayulilengmian
@ayulilengmian 20 сағат бұрын
@ 哦~ 原来如此,谢谢大佬!!
@marcchristianchan-chan3093
@marcchristianchan-chan3093 12 сағат бұрын
It's quite Ironic That Argenti Is The Ad When I Clicked The Video
@unidodie2366
@unidodie2366 17 сағат бұрын
Then again, this PF is just shit (without DOT units). Argenti should perform better if it were a different version of PF.
@individualmanwithuniquedna3873
@individualmanwithuniquedna3873 16 сағат бұрын
He didn't reach 30k in last pf also 💀
@cutcorners6005
@cutcorners6005 18 сағат бұрын
I think changes to PF are very good for him so dont write him off.
@CC_Th1rst
@CC_Th1rst 21 сағат бұрын
"Tier Zero" unit, btw
@Arancini-sc2jb
@Arancini-sc2jb 30 минут бұрын
Without that Robin E2, Argenti would need 2 small ults instead of 1 (and a skill) so the clear would be TWICE AS SLOW. So i dont think he can even 30k at all unless theres a sub dps that carry him like Jiaoqiu, Jade,.... A unit that struggle to do 30k (the minimum to clear) being in tier 0.5 is obviosly overrated.
@MichaelK34752
@MichaelK34752 18 сағат бұрын
hoyo pre buffed pf in anticipation for sunday
@auser2605
@auser2605 16 сағат бұрын
When MrPokke says you need E2 robin do you actually need the E2 or is E1 good enough? Is the spd boost on Robin E2 important?
@Kyle81290
@Kyle81290 21 сағат бұрын
Argenti showing that F2P damage on a whale account.
@bonsaix
@bonsaix 21 сағат бұрын
kinda confused to be honest... I find it's a struggle to not clear with 40k points with Argenti? Even when the cycle doesn't favour him. Am I just going crazy or anyone else feel this too? I think he's still one of the best pure fiction characters next to jade and superbreak teams.
@scopeyui240
@scopeyui240 21 сағат бұрын
Cook that box2 husbando
@dantez3600
@dantez3600 21 сағат бұрын
And people bullied prydwen so hard they had to put Argenti in T0...
@LucasGomes-ng2go
@LucasGomes-ng2go 19 сағат бұрын
TBF he was T0 since release, and only started to struggle recently with the HP inflation in PF. He should've been T0 from the start and dropped now, but unfortunately they chose the worst fucking time to promote him
@kasparkannel3108
@kasparkannel3108 17 сағат бұрын
Rightfully so
@rifle4727
@rifle4727 7 сағат бұрын
Lore accurate JQ 30:16
@elv6240
@elv6240 20 сағат бұрын
rip old units
@SerraAbyssAlisaris
@SerraAbyssAlisaris 16 сағат бұрын
My Boy o7
@maca9095
@maca9095 2 сағат бұрын
he doesn't benefit from current buffs, it's not like "he became mid blahblahblah", after this pf and new buffs come he will climb up to tier 0 again
@caio7208
@caio7208 13 сағат бұрын
Was he running Sigonia?
@roarofgoomy
@roarofgoomy 21 сағат бұрын
sunday will fix him surely clueless
@huismands
@huismands 14 сағат бұрын
Okay, but this PF was made specifically for Rappa. It doesn't really say anything about Argenti's general performance.
@bea7038
@bea7038 20 сағат бұрын
1.x dps are doomed
@mauriciorosademoraes9209
@mauriciorosademoraes9209 20 сағат бұрын
Actually no hahaha. Finally. Idk if can talk leaks here but if you have a Hypercarry of 1.X, Robin + Huohuo + Chicken Wings (E0S1) you can make even a Seele do 2 cycles in MoC with e0s0, Blade cause 130k constant in single target, Jing Yuan doing 400k in LL 10 stacks and advacing his summon, Argenti clearing PF in 2 cycles with a normal Hypercarry build and Dan Heng E0S1 - E1S1 being better than Dan Heng E2S1 with Sparkle
@tangman9890
@tangman9890 14 сағат бұрын
My only question is ... why is argenti run with this team. Sparkle is many times better than Robin. More turns, more energy. Tingyun/herta varies
@jir_UwU
@jir_UwU 5 сағат бұрын
solution: super break argenti
@seshvarram8308
@seshvarram8308 19 сағат бұрын
oof 434k dot dmg on bronya ooofff
@Kinger_of_the_circus
@Kinger_of_the_circus 14 сағат бұрын
I kinda like this diluc better
@tuananhdang7385
@tuananhdang7385 12 сағат бұрын
The amount of misplays this man makes hurts me. And people like go out of the way to trash talk a character
@entsensei
@entsensei 21 сағат бұрын
Pokke is Singaporean
@kingsimba9513
@kingsimba9513 21 сағат бұрын
I like hainanese chicken rice
@Mikaela_77
@Mikaela_77 11 сағат бұрын
👇 Prydwen is mid who agrees
@_tami.
@_tami. 21 сағат бұрын
Prydwen hates hot men that’s the real answer that’s why boothill isn’t t0 in moc and argenti isn’t t0 in pf but Joaqui is ugly so doesn’t apply
@AdacherTheCabbageEater
@AdacherTheCabbageEater 21 сағат бұрын
Jiaoqiu is pretty af tho idk what are you smoking
@camelnotllama
@camelnotllama 21 сағат бұрын
agree, boothill is literally just better than ff, sadly he needs brain cells to use
@SaiSymbolic
@SaiSymbolic 21 сағат бұрын
Okay, but this shit made me laugh too hard.
@Yummers321
@Yummers321 21 сағат бұрын
Bro what 😂😂
@irena4929
@irena4929 21 сағат бұрын
​@@AdacherTheCabbageEater bro look like an npc istg yall are just as blind as him 💀
@lordradiance2530
@lordradiance2530 20 сағат бұрын
The real fraud in the vid was huohuo
@lordradiance2530
@lordradiance2530 20 сағат бұрын
Also pokke respectfully why are you not running the set that was tailor made for him
@Darck800
@Darck800 21 сағат бұрын
Bro was never good 💀 he is useless in all game modes even yunli can clear a lot more faster than him in pf. He cant fallen off becuase he was never good.
@ElijahThompson-s3s
@ElijahThompson-s3s 21 сағат бұрын
idk ive zero cycled every moc with him and gotten max points in pure fiction with the same team as this video. saying hes bad is very dramatic lmao
@shjinriven3408
@shjinriven3408 21 сағат бұрын
​If you zero cycled every moc with argenti then for sure you're not f2p and maybe you have high investment supports or high eidolon argenti because zero cycling argenti at e0 nowadays is impossible.​@@ElijahThompson-s3s
@ElijahThompson-s3s
@ElijahThompson-s3s 21 сағат бұрын
@ i don’t, i have s0 r1 everyone i just took a lot of time to build them and they have rlly good stats🤷🏻‍♂️
@shjinriven3408
@shjinriven3408 21 сағат бұрын
@ElijahThompson-s3s E0s1 and zero cycling every moc then you're lying if you're not lying show a video.
@ElijahThompson-s3s
@ElijahThompson-s3s 21 сағат бұрын
@ and by every moc i mean every once with physical weakness, but i have used silver wolf, robin, hanya, and argenti and 1 cycled
@meyamjaye5930
@meyamjaye5930 22 сағат бұрын
3 Views in 22 seconds ur ancient news pokke
@sinhadesx
@sinhadesx 22 сағат бұрын
First
@Yummers321
@Yummers321 21 сағат бұрын
Congratulations, here's your obligatory medal 🥇
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