Before You Skip Acheron | Honkai: Star Rail

[@Hiarin]

every patch is a powercrept, at this point who cares honestly, I'll just pull whoever design or lore I like. Next patch character probably can ignore 100% def, element/toughness, RES, can store ult up to 10 times, have an instant-kill mechanics, fucking immortal etc anyway.

[@tyrone1938]

Goodluck clearing end game contents

[@NiaTheMilkTank]

As an Acheron + Aventurine player The issue here is not running Trends on him

[@cionaed9912]

@@NiaTheMilkTank It clashes with JQ

[@NiaTheMilkTank]

@@cionaed9912 it doesn't, it just resets the burn which who cares. It still counts as a debuff for Acheron which is all she cares about

[@TheShadowMonarch23]

@@NiaTheMilkTank The point is that you can't get more than 1 stack for turn, so trend is almost useless with jiaoqiu.

[@pally3370]

If I had a nickel for every time Pokke ran Acheron into a ST, lightning resistant, DMG reduction, speed boss in this video I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s just funny and weird that it’s happened twice.

[@Tam-lv1mp]

Acheron is the supposed brute force, face rolls all content, broken dps huh?

[@resy-t9382]

@@Tam-lv1mp yes

[@apollomabini4421]

​@@Tam-lv1mp she was exactly that yes

[@kennethyoung7457]

I already pulled and have guarantee left over there was no reason to skip her and now I 0-1 cycle Hoolay off element. Lot of people saying you should be saving for 3.x like there won't be jades in 3.x or something. Just pull what you want at the end of the day.

[@tangman9890]

This is the big power of Acheron people seem to .. uh.. forget. She's extraordinarily good vs Lightning weak and E2S1 with JQ is going to probably clear all of 3.x - however off element is treated as weak with her Ultimate ARP. Only lightning resistant can get tricky for her (40% natural res, reduced to 20 - vs 20 reduced to 0 which is considered weak). You're doing over a million a cycle with Acheron without any issues, if content reaches that point of elites having 5m+ HP then yeah, but a lot of units will have problems bas that time, not only Acheron. She will, like every other unit end up unable to clear content within 5 cycles, but a good acheron now does 1,0m - 1,5m damage per cycle (single target) depending on enemies moving like adds spawning and what not, as that's all extra stacks. If you're doing 5m-7m dmg per five cycles, enemy HP shouldn't inflate that much. Units from 1.0 are still clearing content to this day, and HP has gone up a lot - I see no reason why a multi-element character will struggle :D

[@sashimi3478]

If you 1 cycle hoolay off element you probably have multiple eidolons of limited characters

[@pally3370]

@ probably just e0s1 Acheron+Jiaoqiu s0 +Robin poised to bloom+Gallagher QPQ s5 tech. That 1 cycles Hoolay Technically it can 0 cycle hoolay with Pela instead of Gallagher but that takes insane relics and luck to the point it’s not worth just resetting 500 times for a 0 cycle

[@ars-br1ms]

you don't need to talk me out of pulling, i already have e1 so i should get her e2

[@rizzz___]

If you entry with Pela tech, you still got +1 stack on wave 1 entry, extra deff shred, and with a skill on your Pela turn you can ult before acheron 1st ult. This way you will get 0 cycle in 1st wave in both nodes and potentially reduce 1 cycle in each nodes overall. The extra 1 stack bonus from Acheron talent in 2nd wave aint that significant in comparison to dmg added from extra deff shred and better rotation. You defo can do better, since i'm with E0S1 Acheron + E0S1 JQ + E6S5reso Pela + E0S5 Trend Fuxuan got 1 cycle on node 1 and 3 cycle on node 2 consistently. (also tried it with Gallagher for node 1 with same result, havent tried on 2nd). Then 3500 ish in AS node 2 (i havent tried node 1). 40k PF both sides. *also respectfully, that acheron build is pretty shit...

[@kevinl2482]

Unfortunately he can't do this on his own account because he has E6S5 so build wise it kinda is what it is.

[@countdown_4324]

E2 Acheron and C2 Raiden Shogun bait all over again

[@kami761]

Except in case of Acheron it's artificially created by HoYo who refuse to release nihility supports that are on par with Robin and Ruan Mei

[@bjornnilsson2941]

Yea she definitely isn't the "brute force everything" unit that she was 6 months ago, but she's still strong in her niche. Her stacking mechanic is pretty strong too, as we saw with this PF buff making anyone who attacks often a decent stacker for her. Too bad we don't have a nihility counter attacker lol.

[@Sinister_Creeps]

She def still is lol

[@Tam-lv1mp]

@Sinister_Creeps Yo pass me that joint

[@Sinister_Creeps]

@@Tam-lv1mp e2s1 acheron chilling 🤫

[@actrose4272]

You mean to we don't have a Nihility counter attacker yet. Even better if they could also somehow heal so we can replace the sustain with Bobin

[@Hydroelectirc]

​@@Sinister_Creeps Bro god e2 not knowing in the future her bis supp is two nihilitys 😂

[@proverxity1747]

Acheron *high ceiling* remains no matter what anyway You may see this and that but eventually she still scales with investment better than most dpses as a former E1S1 acheron I 40k everysides of PF since JQ launch 3k6+ AS on tailored side never more than 1 cycle on whatever MoC it is (even Hoolay) Therefore she still is (and will be for a long time) an highly versatile unit with the capability to *brute* across content if *well invested* Personal verdicts: - Not as *F2P* easy clear as she was back then her release so tough choice for f2p players = Would skip fast if only have limited options toward her - Pull if ur *dedicated* and have JQ or locked in JQ when rerun ( or simply really like her because at the end of the day we play for fun ) Also Powercreeping a very versatile unit is very hard since they still can be relevant in other stuffs so don't think much about it Not able to 0 cycle doesn't mean a char is dead since it is still the same reward as 10 cycles + Acheron doesn't get the *Favortism* as Feixiao or FireFly since she isn't rerunning with her BiS sup anyway

[@set5026]

@proverxity1747 even without favoritism fei destroys her in both cycle clears and in overall team dmg,you don't even Need her full premium teams for outperform her even with Gallagher and moze/march 7th She performs Better.I have all of the 3 with S1 and even when fei was e0s0 She outperformed acheron with that team Comp(ofc put Robin but before i got Robin on rerun i used bronya e0s0). Let's not talk about now that fei is e1s1 same for ff,Acheron can't never be buffed simply cause if they create a debuffer nihility which heals you would make her e2 useless and robin or her team would be always the best for increase her dmg regardless.I have all 3 on ss rank with sss/ss relics and she has even more effective stats than the other 2 but without jiaoqui she's even worse,fei even without robin she can easily perform with bronya while in acheron case both dmg and stack generation are terrible.

[@MefoWho]

it is what it is. Either you 0 cycle moc off element off buff or useless.

[@tangman9890]

As long as she can five cycle clear, she gains the same rewards as 0 cycles. I pulled E2 now for my team and holding E0S1 JQ+Sparkle. Ill be extremely surprised if I can not clear all of 3.x with her, she may be falling off as all old units do but she can clear all of 3.x for you to save pulls, and if you got a SB team grab Fugue and you'll probably clear all of 3.x without any issues what so ever. Start 4.x with 800 pulls and go wild, gonna be great 8) Almost all of 2.x was stacked against her and she didn't give a shit, just blast and always guaranteed a solid clear. Entire expansion was FuA and SB oriented, yet she performed just fine - people forget that, and 20% lightning resistance is treated the same as lightning weak due to her Ult. Shell get powercrept, but it aint gonna be in 3.x

[@BenBeckmane]

You're goofy if you think the Nihility debuff team is complete and that Acheron doesn't get favoritism... There's an ice Nihility character coming, sounds like Pela powercreep to me. If not, there's apparently 4 Nihilities coming to version 3, one of them will be it. It's also gonna get a dedicated sustain, since Aventurine is catered towards FUA. I don't understand why everyone seems to think that Acheron comp is finished, it's only gonna get better, it literally has only 2/4 of its premium options...

[@georgebuii]

@@BenBeckmane Does Sparkle count? I just got Acheron E6 in less than 150 pulls double back to back LOL. I have Sparkle E0S0, but no JQ and Aventurine and his LC in literally 1 ten pull each. The luckiest I've ever been in any hoyo game. I've been saving since 2.1, but ig that was all for nothing and now I got left overs bout 400 pulls just sitting there.

[@Rhouka]

He said "i mean it's not that bad" so many times that i had to recheck if it was AI Pokke again

[@Acheron_main1]

Kafka has lightning res

[@kennethyoung7457]

I still got 3488 on Kafka side with E0S0 Acheron, E0S1 Jiaoqiu, E1S0 Robin and E0S0 Lingsha that is the better team for Kafka. Good part about Acheron is other than Jiaoqiu her other two slots are flex so she can slot in a wide variety of characters based on the situation.

[@AdacherTheCabbageEater]

%40 at that

[@Tam-lv1mp]

"Brute force" they say

[@proverxity1747]

@@Tam-lv1mp only AS Kafka in MoC doesn't pose a threat my e1s1 0c kafka last MoC easy af by far no one can brute modes as *effectively* as acheron

[@Tam-lv1mp]

@@proverxity1747 Hoolay fight was a good example of Acheron brute forcing...very poorly. My Rappa literally cleared faster at e0s1 and people say "Rappa can't brute force" lmao.

[@kirbgaming8192]

Got her LC 70 pity and e1 suddenly at 17 pity... despite not having jiao I say it's a sign to save and get for jiaoqiu rerun

[@shwetasharma6690]

try to get e2?

[@FriedDoggy]

@@shwetasharma6690 They might potentially want to get Sunday or another character that is running.

[@kirbgaming8192]

@@shwetasharma6690 honestly debating it but bailu early... I got 20 + 10 pulls left for (hopefully) e1 Fugue and have enough for THE Herta

[@kirbgaming8192]

Main reason I'm getting e1 fugue is cuz I saved everything for ruan Mei and FF and I lost 50/50 on ruan Mei with no more pulls (I hate ruan Mei I'm never pulling for her again) and I didn't get lingsha but I didn't expect her use in current break team being busted

[@FriedDoggy]

Pulled her since I don't have a second team currently (only Yunli). She helped me to 3 star all modes for the first time. I got lucky and got a double on the 80th pull so I have e1 Acheron now... I'll definitely pull for her e2 on her next rerun.

[@onimusha950]

All those missed Acheron ult crits making me cry lol

[@user-qb3ve3lu8e]

I pull her for the technique, it such a quality of life by clearing SU/DU and sweeping overworld mods faster. I’m not really interested in end game content tbh…

[@noherczeg]

Pulled E0S1 because I like her design, kit, and QoL. Not gonna miss any carry ever again just because they don't have a complete team yet.

[@excoderGCC]

If you have e1s1 + jiaoqiu and want e2, pull, otherwise, skip

[@paw_samuraiyt9349]

i got e1s1 before, but i dont have jiaoqiu. even so, i pulled anyways. now i got e3s1 and an aventurine 🤣🤣 (don't ask where the heck aventurine came from)

[@ameirgrant6116]

What if I like her. Started playing last month and pulled Aven first

[@dragunityx12]

​@@ameirgrant6116pull if you like. But if u want to play meta, wait for 3.x

[@excoderGCC]

in my channel i made a bunch of Acheron e2s1 0 cycles/40k, she perform very well with e0s1 jiaoqiu and harmony suports, maybe if you run e0/e1 with robin, robin e1, ruan mei, ruan mei e1 you get a better performance rather than 2 nihility

[@hbgfh2424]

@@paw_samuraiyt9349 i questionned the e3

[@Niji_15]

Don't have Jiaoqui... Still pulled her with her sig. LC... farmed for her set since i lost on her 1st banner... Got her on 70 pull...then her LC at 20th pull... Now i have 140 pulls left(i skipped all the banners except Feixiao) praying it will be enough for Fugue,THE Herta and Aglaea 🙏 hoyo please more rewards 🙏

[@ladyhdwastaken]

honestly I'd say save for jiaoqiu. He is good even on non-Acheron teams, but he is best with her they are made for each other

[@VeronicaStorm98]

I was lucky enough to pull both Acheron and 2 copies of her Light Cone. Then I spent my next 5 Star guarantee on getting her E1. Honestly, as a Raiden Main, she is worth it to me and has completely changed my account for the better, and I definitely want to get her to E2 someday. I can also use her with my E6 Pela, and those two have been inseparable on my teams a lot. I know that I should be saving for more sustain characters, but I'm honestly very happy to have my E1 Acheron with her R2 Light Cone, and I don't regret getting her E1 at all.

[@Whatever44414]

Thank you, I almost pulled her, now I convinced to pull Sunday, despite having Aven, JQ and SW prepared for her

[@aKiSeraphic]

E0S1 Acheron with Jiaoqiu so far is best and strongest team for all modes for me, I have Firefly with E1S1 Ruanmei team and E0S1 Feixiao with Topaz + Robin team.

[@Chicken-whoescapedfromKFC]

My super break Kafka also 3 cycles💀

[@reulery]

that kafka is emotional support

[@arumicyak]

Update: I got her LC, won the 75/25, 71 pity though lol. Should I pull her LC? I'm at 40 pity right now. I don't have Jiaoqiu and going to pull him on rerun.

[@Hoodiesenju]

Yeah pull her LC you won’t regret it

[@Zentai_Kun]

acherons power heavily restricted without her LC

[@Ichika2111]

if you don't care about meta then yes, otherwise she without jiaoqiu is mid if not bad. Her sig compare to s5 gnsw isn't that big of a difference

[@MefoWho]

@@Ichika2111 idk man, the extra stack comes pretty clutch in some random situation

[@dominustempus8969]

​@@Ichika2111yeah goodluck getting a s5 gnsw lol

[@illshado]

Just got my first 36 star clear with Firefly and Acheron 😭🙏 thank you MrPokke

[@Nevaryedits]

Fell off, needs jiaoqiu Though Firefly needs her team, feixiao needs robin, sunday needs a certain summon advancer.

[@reulery]

doesnt really need jiaoqiu. you can use her with black swan or guinaifen and pela or welt

[@deltaspecies1697]

Fei dosnt really need tobin tbh. U can use bronya too

[@sunnyhelloguy]

Yep so just tell people Acheron is unplayable without JQ. Don't tell them she is still can brute force things don't lie

[@Alucard_ix]

Dope video man

[@auser2605]

To make your acheron do damage I highly suggest replacing pela with E1 robin even if you don't have E2 acheron because pela really holds the team back also 100% crit rate I think is necessary on Acheron you can't miss crits. Sustain if Robin is not getting ult us gallagher on quid pro quo or if its a boss that hits robin alot like hoolay then you can still run aventurine

[@Miku-Izayoi]

Maybe it's just me, but I've had better success when running Aventurine with Trend LC Hoolay attacks so much and has so much aoe that Aven will almost always get hit. And each attack he launches can give Acheron stacks. So his speed will actually work in favor of Acheron (yes even in a team with JQ, it works) I tried SW, Pela and Aven and did 4 cycles against Hoolay, though I do have E1 Acheron so the crit rate helps me get 100% crit rate (I have 81/217 crit ratio) and E1 SW with her event lc, Aven is E0S0 using trend and Pela is E6 with S5 pearls

[@Tam-lv1mp]

Good title but remove the "Before you"

[@winterycold]

Btw E0 Acheron being forced to play with 2 nihility units is the biggest myth ever. I literally cleared the Hoolay side in MoC 12 in 3 cycles with my E0S1 Acheron, E0S1 Jiaoqiu, E0S1 Robin and E0S1 Huohuo. Running Pela on her team is a massive disadvantage over a limited Harmony unit like Robin that can literally save a whole cycle with full team action advance. I had also cleared the previous MoC's Aventurine side with the same Acheron and Jiaoqiu with E0 Sparkle (S5 DDD) and E5 Gallagher (S5 QPQ) in 3-4 cycles depending on the luck during the run.

[@kazoobu]

can't wait for you to make this video but with fexiao in the future

[@kami761]

And it's Acheron without supports that are on the power level of monsters like Ruan Mei and Robin

[@aliounethiaw1443]

4:31 you could use jiaoqui guinaifen aventurine or jiaoqiu sustain welt ruan mei Or jiaoqiu robin Gallagher and you would've done better clears. Also you should've put either the Trend LC or aventurine Sig on him

[@Accountthatexists]

Core reaosn to pull acheron nowawadays is the tequnique for DU weekly timesaving

[@hadeskreptic1430]

I am f2p and wasted 120 pulls just for that technique 💀But I still have over 180 pulls left for out lord and savior king Sunday

[@Kyle81290]

Lil bro experiencing powercreep first hand. The bosses having 5x the HP to not get one-shot by the new shiny unit is the biggest issue.

[@justjuniorjaw]

Owning Jiaoqiu + Aventurine. Very relatable, much wow.

[@forentegaming1971]

She was/is and will be my power house first banner got her to e3 and now got to e6. No regrets

[@27Ganon]

If you don't have a lightning dps, she might still be worth it. Aglaea might end up being thrown on the standard banner (with a corresponding power level) like Tighnari was.

[@tunderblood]

My friend who has feixiao and her premium team with robin E1 got acheron E0S0 without JQ and is absolutely blown away by her performance they arent bias either they had their reservations that she might underperform, ive seen many other people say this too and that Acherons helped them in all sorts of ways from endgame to stuff outside and everything in brtween, plus she seems comparable to Feixiao in the new moc coming up so honestly the only conclusion there is is that all this powercreep talk and assumptions are absolutely pountless and will 100% be wrong because theres way too many variables that need to be taken into consideration and whos an easy skip and an easy pull is not a definitive answer but depends entirely on account and current content which is never constant or predictable. Its this simple really and objectively how things just are, all other talk is just an unnecessary and unoriginal yapping aimed at farming engagement

[@sleepysleepa]

Gallagher is probably better than Aventurine in that Kafka fight cuz he can break the mobs and kafka, and can still debuff

[@HK_VoidFPS]

wait until they release another support that is dedicated for acheron she will go up tier again who knows

[@ladyhdwastaken]

Unrelated but this is the first time I hear CN Herta "Kuru Kuru" and I am *not* disappointed. Kururuuu away my queen

[@aaronmorgan5860]

As FTP I have Acheron E1 S1 and jiaoqiu. So I am in a dilemma as to who to invest in. I lost the 50/50 last month, so I am guaranteed to pull Acheron this banner. I have 130 pulls at this time. The question is what should I pull for when it is guaranteed?

[@LucasGomes-ng2go]

if you're already at that point of investment, I guess there's no reason to not pull for e2

[@joshuaqwertyx]

Rip mr pookie 😢 1998- 2024

[@scopeyui240]

her specific room still doing good Trio boss MOC sunday boss AS PF is even better _ her downside is Kafka AS and hoolay MOC _ tldr using her for right boss (multiple mob) she can clear all 3 end game content

[@bonsaix]

I think the power creep is mainly for E0 units. i feel like the E2's are all pretty even nowadays, so vertically investing might just be more valuable than horizontal investment. The next E0 dps will always be better than the current E0 dps if the trend continues.

[@LucasGomes-ng2go]

nah, an e2 Blade or Jing Yuan are still dogshit

[@aKiSeraphic]

E2 on version 1 DPS loses to E0 on version 2

[@bonsaix]

@@LucasGomes-ng2go "nowadays" i ain't talking about jing yuan bruh 💀characters going forward following current patterns (acheron, feixiao, firefly they're all equivalent)

[@zerk343]

​@@LucasGomes-ng2go Sorry but jy will be good with sunday

[@LucasGomes-ng2go]

​@@bonsaixif e2 Blade and JY are shit, do you really expect e2 Acheron to be good one year from now? She's gonna be the Blade and JY of this generation, its pretty obvious

[@JohnStamR]

My second biggest regret was pulling e1 Acheron. I have no plans of getting e2 now since I am not getting Jaoi and e1 was a mid af eidolon. Sadge.

[@IIIlllIIllIlIl]

I only have FF and Acheron as dps since I just started. I pulled E2S1 anyway without jiaoqiu. Allowed me to clear all endgame. So worth it even with powercreep next year

[@blacksuitedsonic]

Meanwhile new players just pull the new shiny toy and do more damage than e2s1 acheron with f2p team

[@pally3370]

No f2p team is doing more dmg than a e2 Acheron, stop cappin

[@zerk343]

​@@blacksuitedsonic sorry but you're lying

[@katsunakamura1644]

this is why vertical invest comes in clutch

[@promc2890]

Aglaea most likely gonna surpass her as the best lighting DPS with Yapday considiring we will most likely gonna be getting summon blessings in the endgame modes for most of 3.X. Better off invesmenting in the 3.X archetypes to then verticially investing in a E2 Acheron that will be outperfomed by a future E0 3.X DPS because the blessing and enemies in 3.X are obiously gonna cater to the new archetypes. Acheron will just be getting the breadcrumbs while the summon and whatever is the other archetype will be having a full course meal.

[@otakisenpai8377]

The HERTA will surpass everyone

[@cionaed9912]

Yeah no shit, it's a gacha game. It's better to invest in 5.x archetypes. Watch Blade powercreep 2.x and 3.x units once he gets his supports.

[@promc2890]

@@cionaed9912 "its a gacha game" its not a excuse, in FGO they actcually do buffs to old characters a 9 year old day one character like Saber Alter is still relevant thanks to them directly buffing old characters.

[@cionaed9912]

@@promc2890 Well that's Hoyo for you, DPSs will always get replaced by the new shiny toys. Previous characters can be revived for a while when they get better supports, but they will return back to irrelevancy once the flavor of the patch is over. Watch JingYuan have a rise and then a fall during the summon meta and units like BS who are doing poorly now become better than FF and Fei whenever they have a DOT meta. It's actual BS the way Hoyo only ponders to certain archetypes.

[@ma.ozawacalayag6179]

better to invest in 10.xx characters

[@crostyla51]

I am close to hard pity her. Should i grind for her LC aswell before moving to next patch ?

[@ALegendarySol]

I honestly caved and got her cuz I skipped her for Jingliu, getting e1 and S1 cuz "I already got Jingyuan, I don't need another lightning" So, I got her..and my schizo tells me that Jing Yuan would have been fine after all

[@alexmesarec7783]

I had e3 acheron and saved till now and now she's e6 and all i can say is: she works👍

[@konichan7389]

I have firefly, acheron, feixiao and they seem to have the same e6. if I e6 one of them in the long run. I think my account will be viable in the future, instead of aquiring a new dps and its support.

[@insertnamehere5452]

Aglaea about to powercreep her even harder

[@jaimecastro3194]

Needing to pick Jiaoqiu for her to work simply kills it for me. Without him she is mid. And I also don't wanna give my e6 Gallagher to her and don't have Aventurine

[@user-name1719]

but that’s like the reality for all dps units, even new ones, Firefly needs Ruan Mei and Feixiao needs Robin

[@FriedDoggy]

Same could be said for Firefly without RM and any other dps and their main dedicated support.

[@LucasGomes-ng2go]

​@@FriedDoggythe things is the other supports just buff the characters. JQ pratically changes Acheron mechanically. A FF without RM, a Feixiao without Topaz and Robin, they'll just do less damage per AV but they'll still dish out consistent damage. Acheron without JQ gets so little stacks its not even funny, the probability of her getting more than 2 ults per cycle without him is extremely low, and the fact that 95% of her damage is backloaded on that ult means she'll do so much less damage. Its just unfortunate but the design of Acheron's ult was not that great, clearly they realised the problems and fixed it on Feixiao

[@Jackington208]

Wanted to -satisfy my gambling addiction- build pity and i got acheron in 30 pity🤣

[@_OP-gp6uk]

Congrats😅

[@PenguinWithInternetAccess]

Got her and Aven S1 + i am guaranteed on next 50/50, I didn't really need her, I just think she's neat

[@koko-hh2bq]

Can safely say that Acheron went from "the best brute forcer" to "best used in AoE scenarios"

[@ArtemisTGM]

I have acheron E2.. what do you think has more value? E3 Acheron or E1 firefly rerun?

[@excoderGCC]

New character or new acheron buffer/debuffer 🤣

[@ArtemisTGM]

@excoderGCC Do you mean E1 firefly or E0 Fugue? I can't decide to be honest.. bit I only have 1 ganretee left lol

[@althea6591]

for now e1 firefly, unless fugue is actually a sizable upgrade to hmc for firefly which currently doesn't seem so and e3 acheron isn't worth a new character nor is it a huge dmg bump

[@Altered1995]

Why is this even a question? None. Pull for KING YUAN

[@kennethyoung7457]

Neither right now unless you are going to pull Fugue as Firefly may end up without a core support since MC will be wanted in the next meta as well.

[@lalitstha]

I want your genuine suggestions guys. I don’t usually play hsr but now I wanna build up character I have acheron e0 but no her sig lc Im f2p and grinding for her sig LC should I go for it or should I save up for next character im 40-50 pity into LC banner. Every suggestion is appreciated ❤

[@mirage9574]

If you love her, then pull her lc. It's a massive upgrade from f2p lc, allowing her to get 2 stacks for her ult by using her skill. If not and you wanna invest in the new meta, then save for Sunday.

[@lalitstha]

@@mirage9574really appreciate with your suggestions. I don’t have that much of meta DPS so IDK what to do next

[@FunTimeGhz]

I have seen e0s0 Acheron with Pela, Tingyun and Gunifine 0 cycle this exact moc.

[@DanielBlegur-lh9ku]

Replacement for JQ and Aven ?

[@junn_.]

already got acheron ,ik her eidolons r godly but imma need sunday and mother Algaea

[@ImLemonadeCandy]

Blessings of Pokke gave me E2 in 40 pulls

[@ataseronurgoren8464]

hey villagers i have a pity should i go for sundey or e2 acheron. I have e1s1 Acheron but dont have red fox. Which one should i focus on.

[@kanicunny]

Everyone said acheron is mid without jiaoqiu, bro FF without ruan mei is borderline usable, and feixiao without robin is cope, ofc they need their BiS supports. But she did kinda fell off tho.

[@Pulak518]

Me watching the intro *Insert mad Max that's bait meme

[@ramkindalethal5253]

I got E2 S1 acheron on her debut banner (f2p btw luckiest summons of my life) but skipped jiaoqiu to pull my actual girlfriend firefly and will be pulling my fox mummy Fugue. Is it worth to save up for jiaoqiu rerun or 3.x units?

[@skrypnykk.770]

Of course you need jiaoqiu, like E2 Acheron, fox, Robin/Sparcle and Aventurine/Gala clears every possible content on C0 right now (even tho current meta is absolutely not made for Acheron hupercarry)

[@doobongz]

i have pela, guinafen and either lingsha or preservation MC for her but idc shes just my favorite character so I pulled...

[@endcorruption993]

Kafka has Lightning Res.

[@AdacherTheCabbageEater]

34:14 Fu Xuan sweep

[@Tigrion]

It is what it is with E0S1 unites now a days Hoyo bullet sponge HP bars caters to the E2 unites unless they are the newest shiny buffed by the MoC cycle unite simple as that.

[@isn_awak3ning136]

Hey MrPokke, I want to be a bit critical of you for this. I feel like the TLDR; could’ve been better off from the beginning, your title feels clickbait because I came in expecting you to explain why Acheron is actually worth my Jades but this ended up being just another showcase. Could you please move the TLDR or explanation to the start of the video moving forward? Thanks Anyways I do enjoy your content man

[@enjumamoru6513]

i have acheron perfekt relicts e0, pela, black swan, sampo, guinafen, huohuo/aventurine and im doing max 20k always with her

[@jmcMateo]

I got her in 20 pulls so it's whatever. she still one shot mobs which saves time and make universe modes more enjoyable.

[@lulusmimi]

got acheron accidentally a week ago is a team of acheron s5 lesbian lc black swan on jiaoqiu's sig pela on tutorial and aventurine on sig a good team? anything i should replace? i dont have jq yet but i like him so i might get him one day... i cant clear stuff as fast as in the video but its maybe since my acheron's trace levels are only 8 bc im still farming... actually one thing im the most worried about is who can i use as sustain other than aventurine? i dont have fx... bc i want my aventurine to be on my feixiao team at all times...

[@teviar7157]

Acheron would be powercreept badly sooner than jq get his first rerun

[@lulusmimi]

@@teviar7157 well time to save for aglaea ig

[@borgor6539]

as someone who just zero cycled with acheron: she probably isn’t worth pulling unless you plan to go all in

[@NotATarnished]

❤mr pokee oiled up

[@AdacherTheCabbageEater]

Jiaoqiu should be on Herta Store LC for PF

[@baialjo]

Unless you plan on getting her lightcone at the minimum and maybe constellations just don’t get her. She’s not made for you

[@shuryt]

Easy skip....because I already have her e2 :D

[@invin_2940]

unrelated to the video (well technically related to the title), but acheron's banner placement is a bait, and I figured that out not long before her rerun is revealed. Because judging by hoyo's pattern, it becomes clear that they are baiting you to get acheron, and now you are broke going into the new 3.X meta. I have e0s1 acheron and jiaoqiu sparkle, but I have ultimately decided not to pull e2s1 acheron because of this. I need to save my pulls for e6 firefly, then I'll be able to get to play the archetype, not sticking with acheron is a good idea.

[@aarushi2740]

she cant brute force everything anymore. for choir you should be running gui and ruan mei instead of pela and aventurine

[@killerkondayt4091]

Newer players please wait on n pull for Sunday

[@aymenlahfa234]

already summoned and got E0S2 f2p

[@kodarah1490]

I lose her to himeko and have her best team, dont have more jades to get her. How can i replace her 😢

[@lisathedoorkicker9572]

running E0S1 Acheron with sustain is where you messed up already

[@MxRz_]

If only i didnt get Servals little brother i would went for E2

[@shura7762]

Hoolay meant to be for feixiao and acheron still doing 600k to him e0 s1 to feixiao after get same boss and not doing shit to boss

[@Cravior]

Im convinced pokke must be the worst acheron user of all time. Always the most painful use case scenarios and builds

[@cionaed9912]

He has an E6S5 Acheron, so it's to be expected. Gachasmack cleared MOC-12 with zero cycle on the first side with E0S1 Acheron alongside JQ.

[@Cravior]

@ my f2p alt used acheron pela gallagher guinaifen and still did 2 cycles lol

[@tangman9890]

@@cionaed9912 Its easily noticable that Pokke has no clue how to play Acheron, esp on the dolls. Why pela vs a combo mode DESIGNED for breaking them. Slot in Guinaifen, JQ and Gallagher/Aventurine where Gall is better due to so much aoe break. I did it with my Guinaifen being level 50? or whatever is needed for the action advance trace and lvl 2-3 traces across the board. She was just there to break them faster, that's it. Then again, taking advice from online people is just like asking any other individual about their takes. I was however surprised how bad Pokke is at piloting Acheron

[@ceizhore4498]

I mean are we surprised tho? He could barely 0 cycle Hoolay with E6S5 Acheron. Multiple theory crafters have shown that they can 0 cycle Acheron with E0S1 on side 1 EASIER than they can with Firefly

[@cionaed9912]

@@ceizhore4498 The way he struggled with that zero cycle was crazy lol.

[@naufalsyauqifillah6388]

I have e0s0 acheron with jiaoqui and she barely clear first moc in 7 cycles i dont know man the hp bloat in moc are crazy high rn 😢

[@arturfernandes7416]

Acheron pullers when Mid Yuan power creeps her:😢

[@LolW-Y-C]

Wdym MID YUAN????

[@bad_noob1221]

@@LolW-Y-C sunday aint out yet ;)

[@judielgabrielmanalo5031]

Aglaea:🗿

[@cionaed9912]

1.x characters can powercreep 2.x characters if they get dedicated supports, just like how 2.x characters can be revived with 3.x or 4.x supports who buff their archetypes. It really means nothing because at the end of the day 1.x DPSs are not comparable to 2.x DPSs in relation to their kit, just like how 2.x characters would have lower multipliers in their kit in comparison to 3.x DPSs. It's a Gacha game at the end of the day🤷🏽‍♂

[@tunderblood]

Really wonder how all these jingyuan and aglea power creep takes age up considering none of them even ignore enemy weaknes or implant anything themselves, im just patiently waiting to see how all these takes will age up and how wrong people will be

[@1496blake]

When does he not say "oh my fucking god" 🤦🏽‍♂️😂

[@Nethaxion]

Nah, i'd skip.

[@yedagoatnocap666]

i mean yeah acheron is falling off but kafka has like 40% lighting res

[@XPendeX2011]

To be fair this AS Kafka is not favorable for Acheron

[@ladyhdwastaken]

yep, his chat was saying the same. in her least ideal scenario

[@Pudding--_--]

should have pulled him buddy boy

[@charizsy]

What if i pulled

[@mrpokkee]

bricked

[@fhilly-e]

if u have jiaoqiu that would be good tho

[@ohmygodratatui]

​@@mrpokkee😂😂

[@JunaidAnsari-my2cx]

I mean I got her and her LC, given I started playing in 2.6 I need some new characters man

[@Nevaryedits]

Dont worry, you can still clear the endgame with her without jiaoqiu but it will be a bit harder in the future patchs.

[@JunaidAnsari-my2cx]

@Nevaryedits Yea I am using her with Pela, Gepard and Welt. So far no problem, I am trying to get Aventurine, as Sunday is also coming, gonna get close but lets see

[@LucasGomes-ng2go]

bricked account

[@charlesr.8159]

I’m not skipping my AC ON.