Oral Minoxidil After 3 Years : Test Results REVEALED

[@richiehartless823]

I had the fluid build up in my heart sack after moving from 1.25 mg to 2.5 mg . Very scary, felt like I was having a heart attack. My derm was surprised as it’s a relatively small dose but immediately sent me to A&E. If you are considering this drug do it under strict medical supervision.

[@MrRolandas]

Damn! How quickly this has appeared? From all my research it seems such adverse effects appear very quickly, within days.

[@bennybenny7382]

I am considering OM but fear this, I dont care about mild health reduction in the years to come. I just dont want to suffer some fatal heart condition. Hims and manual and other brands sell it. Is these serious side effects rare?

[@MrRolandas]

Very rare.

[@davidomeara4704]

​@@MrRolandasI would say they're rare. Less likely at that dose but not rare

[@richiehartless823]

@@MrRolandas within a few days yes. Thankfully it subsided after stopping Oral Minox and using some anti inflammatory drugs.

[@rhhum]

The issue of hair and baldness is psychologically exhausting, to the point that I no longer take pictures of myself and send them to my girlfriend. I had a hair transplant and I haven’t told her yet, and I hope to get a satisfactory result or for my hair to return to how it was 7 years ago, so that I can meet my girlfriend who lives in another country. The matter is exhausting..

[@MrRolandas]

I feel you man! I've certainly been there. I've actually shared my experience with life with extreme baldness and huge combover in one of my recent videos/livestream. It was depressing! Best of luck with your recovery and hopefully you'll get results you're after!

[@nurs5463]

@@MrRolandaswhere do you buy it? I cannot find it in my country

[@MrRolandas]

I'm getting a prescription from a Hair Transplant doctor and ordering from pharmacy. It will be different in each country. You'd need to research how is it in yours. Some countries sell it pharmacies without prescription.

[@LosiusWB]

I’m on oral minoxidil 5mg and dutasteride 0.5mg daily. Luckily no side effects whatsoever.

[@rinn_ermac5886]

How long have u been using it ?

[@coltong694]

Same! Best stack of all time

[@LosiusWB]

@@rinn_ermac5886 for like 8 months

[@MrRolandas]

Goat stack 🐐

[@LosiusWB]

@@rinn_ermac5886 for like 8.5 months

[@David-qz7fx]

I have been taking oral minoxidil 2.5mg for 3 months and have experienced no negative side effects and in combination with daily dutasteride 500mcg have seen noticeable thickening and growth of hairs in thinning areas. Im currently not taking minoxidil (continuing dutasteride) for 1 month as I had a hair transplant 9 days ago. I was 37 when I initiated drug treatment and probably a Norwood 4 or 5.

[@MrRolandas]

Did your doctor advised to stop oral minoxidil for a surgery? I was taking it pretty much all through except 2 days before I've stopped it and resumed immediately after surgery.

[@levitate9274]

Did 6.5k grafts, was No.6A. Using 0.5mg of Dutasteride and 5% Minoxx spray. Currently at 12th month mark, and I feel that the hair is getting thicker and thicker from day to day. This is a great routine for me to be honest, and I have never tought of using Minoxx tablets but i've heard they're very potent.

[@MrRolandas]

Nice one! What brand do you use?

[@TheElwinable]

For the fact that you where the reason i was interested in this drug in the first place, i found it really helpfull that you keep providing these in depth informational videos. Showing the negative sides too and keeping us updated :)

[@MrRolandas]

Always trying to share my experience to the best of my ability. I know how tough it is to find unbiased free information as everyone seem to want to make money only nowadays.

[@rhhum]

The strange thing is that I saw you in a dream this morning talking about Minoxidil tablets, and now you are actually talking about it, perhaps because I follow you closely.

[@MrRolandas]

Damn! 😅

[@AshwinAshwinRamdas]

Here's my story. Took it for 2.5 years (2.5mg daily) with no issues. Out of nowhere, I was hospitalized with near kidney failure due to fluid retention around my heart that prevented proper blood flow to my organs and essentially almost cut off circulation to my kidneys. My kidney markers in my blood work were reaching kidney failure levels. I stopped OM when I was admitted obviously and I went back to normal in 3 days. I couldn't believe it happened after not having any issues with OM for over 2 years. Months after my hospital stint, I tried OM again at 1.25 mg, but the second I had a weird heart rhythm I stopped it again. It just isn't worth the risk for me unfortunately.

[@MrRolandas]

Omg that's some serious experience! I will be investigating this further. Do you mind to get in touch via email on [e-mail] please? I'd like more info if possible. That's very important to cover

[@shah5757]

What brand did you use

[@hahaheee7906]

​@@MrRolandastaking diuretics could have avoided the situation

[@MrRolandas]

You talking about water retention? Not sure if that's the case as scans didn't show any fluid build up.

[@ALLinMiami]

Been using it for about two and half years - 2.5mg taken in two doses of 1.25mg. One in the morning and one and night. I have a pill that has this in it plus .25mg of dutasteride. So each day I get 2.5mg of oral minoxidil and .5mg of dutasteride. So far, no issues 🤞🏽

[@MrRolandas]

Where do you get that prescription? Ultimate combination 🐐 I take you're a huge proponent of ~4h half life of OM, hence twice a day intake.

[@Kyle_Bu]

Love your content bro!

[@MrRolandas]

Thank you! A lot of effort went into this video 😅

[@raghavsarin2612]

I have been on 2.5 mg for 6 months. It has increased the thickness of my hair a lot. No sideeffects yet. I never had such results when i started fin 1mg 11 years back

[@MrRolandas]

Nice one! Finasteride works a bit differently, by slowing down further progression of hair loss, where minoxidil gives an actual boost to follicles. It's like steroids for hair 😆

[@raghavsarin2612]

Yeah I tried minoxidil topical 5% for 2 years and again didn’t notice much difference

[@MrRolandas]

You might have genetic mutation with not enough sulfotransferese enzyme not only in hair follicles, but also in the liver, hence it doesn't really work for you

[@Exercise4CheatMeals]

Tablet form isnt worth it. I am in great cardiac shape and workout daily. Had sides within a few weeks that persisted and got worse. Was short of breath walking from my car to the locker room. Also had palpitations and heart racing. Was very scary. Ill stick to topical w tretinoin once per day before bed.

[@MrRolandas]

God damn! Definitely not worth with such sides. It's good you keep track of it and have a good understanding of your body to see such differences.

[@heytheyellowflash]

taking finasteride and topical monoxidil. month 2 after hair transplant. wish me luck guys! im trying my best

[@SergeyTheBold]

Keep monitoring it brother. I remember Kevin showing some studies that indicate side effects of oral minox can be quite idiosyncratic and manifest even at a very low dose of like .25 mg in certain individuals. I'm about to start oral minox myself later this year and I'll undergo a battery of tests before starting.

[@MrRolandas]

Yes there's 1 study of 1 lady having small pericardial effusion as well as edema all around the body on 0.25mg/day within first 3 weeks. I've showed briefly this study at the beginning of the video.

[@SergeyTheBold]

@@MrRolandas Have you looked at maybe wearing a heart monitor (Holter monitor) 24/7 for a few days/weeks? It's gonna provide 100% of the data in continuity as opposed to snapshots once or twice daily. You're gonna be able to say "oh, I had this shortness of breath and/or weird feeling in the chest area between this and that timepoints today, let's see what was my status at that moment".

[@MrRolandas]

I don't actually have any shortness of breath during the day, unless I literally sprint for short time. Since tests I've done a little bit of cardio and I already see huge improvement. Now with same quick sprints that I've had in the past feels like 20x better. I'm convinced I've just let myself down with cardio 😅

[@SergeyTheBold]

@@MrRolandas Keeping good vascular tone is always a great health booster. Glad you've imporved and hopefully no sides will bother you anymore!

[@samweirich5973]

Your hair is looking fantastic btw.

[@MrRolandas]

Thanks!

[@rhhum]

There are no minoxidil tablets in Turkey, I bought minoxidil tablets from India and in India it is sold without a prescription and I will start using it and I hope to get satisfactory results + I have had 5200 follicles implanted 9 months ago + I am using dutasteride + nutritional supplements

[@MrRolandas]

Good luck and keep me posted!

[@wulfsorenson8859]

Oral minoxidil didn’t work on me at all. I took it for nearly a year. All it did was give me huge bags under my eyes which fortunately went away once I stopped. I got zero regrowth.

[@MrRolandas]

what dose?

[@wulfsorenson8859]

@@MrRolandas I think I went up to 5 or even 7mg! I was a non responder!

[@MrRolandas]

God damn O_o I was always fascinated by "bags under eyes due to minoxidil". How would you describe this? How quickly they've started/disappeared?

[@wulfsorenson8859]

@@MrRolandas puffy under bags that made me look older and appeared after several weeks. Fortunately they went away after a few days of ceasing use. Dr Ferreira wanted me to try it for 6 months before committing to a transplant.

[@MrRolandas]

@@wulfsorenson8859 Would you say puffy underbags were very obvious, or it was somewhat of a minor difference from naturally occuring day-to-day bags (due to lack of sleep, stress etc.)?

[@grahamlowe9124]

Hi was on 2.5mg once a day for the last 9 months since my hair transplant had no side effects at all grew my hair very fast no problems at all but also wasn’t seeing really great results either so decided to use 5mg at 2.5mg twice a day still no side effects but still to early to see any substantial gains with more time hope to see more thickness and hair growing longer but once again no side effects at all with 2.5mg or 5mg I will stick with 5mg for the foreseeable future cheers

[@MrRolandas]

Nice one. Worst sides according to studies manifest within first week of using OM, so you might be fine.

[@sonny297]

Thanks for the update! What shampoo and conditioner are you currently using please?

[@MrRolandas]

Whatever I find in the store 🤣

[@nathanlopez3918]

Oh wow - welcome back. I haven’t seen you on my timeline for AGES (at least a year)

[@MrRolandas]

Yeah I've been away for some time, but now back into the game 👍

[@AK-ne4bb]

You’re not the only one reporting the medicine seems to stop working as well after a few years… some says it could be a hair cycle thing ?

[@MrRolandas]

Hair growth cycles are absolutely real. Think about it. Hair doesn't just grow non-stop. IT goes through cycles of growth, shedding and dormant. Minoxidil only prolonges it.

[@k.t.1594]

Μy man, what did you do to your mouth did you get fillers, your facial structure changed and your speech. Did you have an aesthetic procedure or for medical purposes?

[@MrRolandas]

Is there such a big difference? I'm wearing invisalign to straighten my teeth for the last 9 months, but it's surprising to hear such observation.

[@k.t.1594]

​@@MrRolandas​ I am quite observative in general, so for 90% of people no, I'd say they wouldn't tell the difference. Couldn't help myself but ask.

[@MrRolandas]

Haha no that's fine. I guess it's normal to have some changes In the way I speak as teeth essentially are relocating in a different positions, which makes mouth movements slightly different. It's possible I need to adjust once it all settled down. It's crazy how such little things can have quite an impact!

[@davidharris8368]

Where do you currently get your oral minoxidil from? Would be very helpful.

[@MrRolandas]

Got prescription from Dr. Farjo, online. There are numerous places nowadays to get it

[@stephenhawking3302]

Im on oral dutasteride (0.5mg), does it have any side effects on liver/kidney/heart? Rather than sexual side effects?

[@MrRolandas]

not that I'm aware of!

[@sithounetsith9877]

How is your eyesight going bro ? Eyes are things affected by toxic blood quite immediately, since it is supplied by the lymphatic system?

[@MrRolandas]

I've always had bad eye sight, since childhood due to genetics. My right eye is -4.75, and left - 4.25. I'm wearing contact lenses for a very long time now. Can't recall any differences since starting OM

[@Bartholome3101]

Not gonna lie Rolandas. I am now on 5mg OM and sometimes it can be frightening. Not that I say that I had some side effects but risking your life over your hair? Hair greed, as I doing it right know can be dangerous. Sometimes we fucked up and have to live with our regrets. So people, just take fin and go on with live. From a hardcore fighter this is the best advice I can give you.

[@MrRolandas]

Good advice. Each has to find what works for them.

[@exactly1176]

T'es parti directement sur du 5mg OM ? Ou tu as commencé par 2.5mg ? Pas d'effets secondaires ? Honnêtement je suis surpris d'apprendre que tu as commencé OM sachant que Kevin n'aime pas trop ça lol . J'ai aussi commencé OM à 5mg au début puis 2.5 car j'aimais pas trop la sensation que j'avais sous 5mg. J'ai arrêté le minox topique car je vais bientôt avoir un chat (sinon j'aurais pas arrêté). Mais j'avoue que difficile de revenir au topique après avoir goûté au OM (tellement facile à prendre haha). Mine de rien je gagne du temps avec le OM. Avant c'était casse tête ! Je devais mélanger de la tretinoine tous les jours avec mon minox topique etc... (ça fonctionnait bien ceci dit) 😀. J'espère que j'aurais pas une déception avec les effets du OM 2.5mg. Au pire je repasserais à 5mg plus tard quand mon corps aura plus de tolérance pour le OM.

[@Bartholome3101]

@@exactly1176 j’ai fais 1 puis 2,5 puis 5. Non mais comme je dis des fois tu te demandes « et si? » En vrai j’avais déjà de très bon cheveux avant le minoxidil oral donc c’est pas une perte si je l’arrête un jour.

[@exactly1176]

​@Bartholome3101 et très sincèrement (je vais aussi faire mon auto-critique par la même occasion) : c'est là que je me demande si on tourne pas à l'obsession autour des cheveux, des vidéos KZbin sur les cheveux etc etc... Ça fait quelques semaines que je commence personnellement à me poser des questions et à me demander si je suis pas en train de taper une obsession sur ce sujet . Je passe trop de temps à rechercher des infos sur ce sujet et à " tester " des trucs (2.5mg dutasteride etc etc...) quand j'en avais pas forcément " besoin " sachant que j'ai retrouvé une bonne densité. J'avais prévu de continuer avec 2.5mg dutasteride et de retourner au OM à 5mg malgré les effets secondaires (ça finira par partir avec le temps probablement) mais au final j'ai décidé 3 choses : - très fortement me calmer sur les vidéos KZbin qui tournent autour du sujet des cheveux / me calmer sur les commentaires etc... - arrêter de jouer avec le feu donc retourner à 0.5mg dutasteride (déjà très efficace. Et cela même si j'avais pas d'effets secondaires sous 2.5mg dutasteride par jour) . Je vais aussi finalement rester sur du 2.5mg OM (aussi prouvé comme déjà très efficace et plus safe que le 5mg sur le long terme) - Gagner du temps pour d'autres choses dans ma vie (passer plus de temps avec ma femme, jouer à des jeux vidéos que j'ai pas encore terminé, faire encore plus de sport etc...) plutôt que de passer des heures sur des forums / vidéos KZbin etc... à propos des cheveux 😅. Mec je pense qu'on est tous les deux trop dans le " hair greed " et dans " l'obsession " avec le sujet des cheveux . Ça va on est loin d'être chauves et on le sera jamais ! Lol On devrait se calmer un peu 😉 Si tu me vois moins sur HairCafe etc... dans les mois à venir c'est normal . Ça veut pas dire que je viendrais plus jamais mais juste je vais essayer de passer de " l'obsession " à la " modération " sur ce sujet. # the slaphead curse has been defeated ! On peu passer à autre chose ! Toujours curieux à propos de GT20029 etc... donc j'irais faire un tour sur le net de temps en temps mais pas beaucoup plus que ça. Je sais pas toi mais perso il faut que ça change là :)

[@Bartholome3101]

@@exactly1176 tu sais moi même je commente ou regarde moins de vidéos sur le sujet car il y a tous simplement rien en faite. La solution restera toujours fin, dut et minoxidil. Si la situation se dégrade bah on augmente le dosage. Et… bah c’est tout. Pas besoin de faire des recherches pendant 1000 heures. Il y aura rien mtn et il y aura rien dans les prochaines années. Perso le plus loin que j’ai été dans la stack c’est : 2.5 dut, 1.25 Fin, 6 mg OM, RU 100 mg, Alfatradiol, stemoxydine, tretinoin + minoxidil 5% et dermastamp. Mtn je fais machine arrière et me débarrasse du quasi inutile donc en commençant par la tretinoin, alfa eh stemox

[@TheNicknator]

I've had no noticeable positive effects after applying topical minoxidil for 7 months. That's when I stopped the treatment. Surprisingly I noticed that I stopped struggling with dry, red skin under my eyes after stopping the treatment. After hearing that you didn't witness significant positive effects after 3 yeara of treatment I don't see any reason to give it another shot. What do you think?

[@MrRolandas]

Not exactly. I have pretty decent results, it's just not enough to avoid 3rd transplant. I'm quite happy with OM efficacy I've received.

[@TheNicknator]

@@MrRolandas I just had my 2nd hair transplant for mid-scalp and crown and the doctors suggested to hop on minoxidil again for quicker results. I really don't like the idea because I hated applying it and couldn't notice any results last time. Also I have no access to oral min in my country. Would you tell me to suck it up and give it one more try?

[@HA-hr3qx]

Hello Mr Rolandos Do you have information about hair cloning

[@MrRolandas]

Unfortunately I'm not following closely updates on this. My opinion - if it will happen, great. But we have to deal with our hair loss NOW, so until then there's no point focusing on it. You got to leave your life in the meantime!

[@krystian1993]

I had the same at the beginning, but it go away. It took around 6 months. I was afraid to take it, but I was really determined 😂 I am using 5mg daily.

[@MrRolandas]

What exactly you had? Heart palpitations? Shortness of breath?

[@krystian1993]

@@MrRolandas I am not sure, because I did not take any tests, but I could hear my heart 😅 Right now everything is normal.

[@MrRolandas]

@@krystian1993 I'm glad it's ok now. How long side effects persisted?

[@stephenhawking3302]

And why dont you use dutasteride instead of oral minoxidil?

[@MrRolandas]

Finasteride seem to be working well for me since I've started, so didn't see the need for it. Dutasteride & Oral Minoxidil work in a different way, hence not really a crossover.

[@Klaudiuszeg]

@@MrRolandas You never know until you try it tbh

[@MrRolandas]

To try dutasteride? Or what you're referring to?

[@exactly1176]

Small but important update : I developed nerves damages with oral minoxidil 2.5mg after 3 weeks of use. The first 2 weeks were fine but the third week became hell on earth... I noticed massive tingling in both my arms from my elbows to the tips of my fingers as well as in both my legs with slight numbing feelings ... And some small pain in all my joints ... Crazy stuff. I later read that this is a side effect of oral minoxidil (it's not nocebo as i was not even aware of this side effect). Of course i immediately stopped oral minoxidil and i still have the tinglings etc.. but it's getting slowly better thankfully. After some research on the subject i learnt that they were some cases of permanent nerves damages and someone even ended up in hospital and couldn't walk anymore ... My goal here is absolutely not to fear mongering but just to inform people that if you are on OM and you feel like tingling in your hands or elsewhere that last for more than a few hours a day : stop immediately OM !!! This is a sign of nerves damage. I wish i didn't have to drop OM and didn't have to go back on topical minoxidil but here i am... it's life... OM is great but it's true it's literally dangerous for some people......

[@oncall21]

Hey Rolandos. Firstly I’m glad that your results came back with a clean bill of health. 👌 I’ve been on 5mg of oral minoxidil for two and a half years now and to my knowledge I haven’t experienced any negative side effects. My only concern with the drug is that it ‘might’ lose its punch at some point. I’ve found that by the first year of taking it my hair and beard felt thicker in general and still does. All the best and thanks for sharing.

[@MrRolandas]

It will indeed lose its effectiveness, just like topical minoxidil. Nothing is forever really. But if paired if 5ar inhibitor, this should be a very strong combo long term. If hair cycles aren't diminishing, you can enjoy benefits of minoxidil for much longer

[@SohamShivoham]

I have started losing hair exactly like you on crown area. I am thinking about starting 1.25 OM. What should i do ..

[@MrRolandas]

Are you already on Finasteride?

[@SohamShivoham]

@@MrRolandas no bro, nothing. Hair loss started 2 years ago on temples & now it's on vertex. I can share images if I have your mail

[@MrRolandas]

In this case you should speak to a doctor to get prescription for finasteride. If you have hair loss I'm the hairline and crown, you might be heading towards higher Norwood level. If you want to preserve your hair, there's nothing better currently available.

[@rhhum]

I have a very important question, will all the follicles that are implanted grow or will there be follicles that will die? For example, 5000 follicles, will they all grow or what?

[@MrRolandas]

It will never be 100% survival. With best doctors it's usually 90% and more survival.

[@LonelyLoner-v2z]

I just started taking 1mg minoxidil & within 3 days I started feeling weird pump / palpitations in my chest & thyroid area . I immediately stopped the medication & return to topical form of minoxidil

[@MrRolandas]

According to safety studies of LDOM, heart adverse effects appear within first days/weeks of starting the drug. Although some studies I've read claim these subside with use as well, but I would take this with a grain of salt

[@jordantorres8038]

Just started taking 2.5 OM last night, finger cross

[@MrRolandas]

Good luck!

[@jordantorres8038]

@@MrRolandas just passed 1st Month, no promising changes but i didnt experience shedding and mostly NO side effects.

[@MrRolandas]

Nice one 🤞

[@luislanga]

I've been eating it like it's cereal and haven't noticed any side effects. I take 5mg daily, since I take it after lunch sometimes I forget if I actually took one or not, I've taken it twice or even 3 times in a single day multiple times and never felt anything wrong.

[@MrRolandas]

God damn you are built differently 🤣 how about gains? Any good?

[@luislanga]

@@MrRolandas I can't tell anymore, I've been taking it for 5 years already. Body hair, definitely, and that bothers me the most, my forearm hair grows very long, shaving looks weird and trimming looks even worse. I also use topical minoxidil because I need a vehicle for RU58841, and I'm on dutasteride 0.5mg, so I can't tell what's doing what. I have been noticing that my hair is getting thinner overall, in my donor also, but nothing crazy. I'm planning on getting my first hair transplant in a few years, but I figure it's best to see if my treatment is actually going to make my hair last longer or not before getting anything done.

[@MrRolandas]

@@luislanga I see you're going all in :D Good call on staying the course before jumping on HT bandwagon. Important to see whether meds can actually do something substantial, or at least hold what you have. Long term mindset is key with managing hair loss. I'm thinking of some group video/live at some point in the future. I think your experience might be interesting to share. Drop me an email on [e-mail] if you are open to share.

[@MrRolandas]

Hey man, how you've been? Drop me an email if you feel like sharing some of your experience :)

[@coltong694]

Oral minoxidil almost killed you Rolandas!! Black box label!! lol jk. I’ve been on it for 3 years, the stuff is amazing

[@MrRolandas]

It's funny now, but back then I seriously freaked out. It's strange this has not happened since.

[@print24service]

@@MrRolandasmore you think to your heartbeat more you ll have it. Just relax this stuff happen sometime I am 40 and doing a lot of sport sometime this happen also to me do not worry

[@bennybenny7382]

I sometimes get big heart palpitation after ejaculating LOL. Iv'e had like 9 in one go at one point followed by temporary rapid heart beat.

[@MrRolandas]

​@@print24service Good advice. Psychosomatic sides are real!

[@bigchad2089]

as someone with CKD, I noticed your eGFR is shown as 58, thats actually quite low so you may want to look into that.

[@MrRolandas]

Edit: I've just realised 58 was back in November 2023. Recent follow-up showed 85ml/min.

[@bigchad2089]

@@MrRolandas good to hear man, I'm sure they have it in hand. It does vary a lot for people. Mine was 80 when I found out I have CKD, so I always keep an eye.

[@MrRolandas]

I believe at that time I was taking creatine and barely drinking any water, as my Creatinine was high too. Just checked at serum albumin and it's 48g/l on a range of 35-50. I've since started drinking even more water, about 4-6l a day (compared to less than 2l), and I think it's for the better.

[@bigchad2089]

@@MrRolandas ceatine supplements and dehydration will 100% have a big big impact, im bet thats all it is!

[@MrRolandas]

Since November I've stopped creatine it substantially increased egfr. Now I'm back on it for a few months, but with substantially higher quantities of water. Might do another test just to confirm this theory 😅

[@Y0d99]

These vids need more views man

[@MrRolandas]

KZbin is a lottery. Even good quality content can be left in the void, while lower quality can reach millions. Algorithm reaches random people, and with such niche topic, there's very small (comparatively) audience.

[@kevinlimpert8523]

I will be on it coming up 4 years in Nov 2024 .not quite the results you got and I also had 4 fut surgeries . The side effects I experienced were numbness and tingling in my arms, but that's not a known side effect of loniten .I did find out my arteries are clogged with cholesterol deposits .my blood pressure was elevated despite taking low dose ..125 MG of minoxidil a day .the hair regrown in my bald spots are non pigmented valis hairs that haven't got longer .I'm considering getting stem cell injections to see if that will transform them to regular growing pigmented hair

[@MrRolandas]

I wouldn't waste time on stem cell and prp. Unfortunately you can't bring back long anagen phases once they're far gone. If your hair is at the stage where it'd stranslucent and doesn't grow long, that's about it. You might be able with variety of treatments to make them grow longer by extending anagen phase, but that won't be a long term solution as witch each cycle they get shorter and shorter. Meds just give artificial boost if it makes sense. You think cholesterol is somehow related to OM in your case since you've mentioned it?

[@Jose-xq1gt]

Had the same symptoms, I'm taking 5mg a day of oral min so I was stressed. Did those exams, exactly, all normal. My doctor said it could be a consequence of covid, a thing they call long covid. But not really certain.

[@MrRolandas]

Someone else commented exact same thing! I want to investigate this further as it appears to be a pattern. Do you mind sharing more of your story with me privately?

[@Jose-xq1gt]

@@MrRolandas Hi. I don't think I have more to share ahah But I want to do another round of exams, those were made 2 years ago

[@MrRolandas]

I would be interested to follow your journey! Any plans when you might do these?

[@Jose-xq1gt]

@@MrRolandas not yet, but I can keep you posted

[@MrRolandas]

Please do so! Reading comments sparked my curiosity to investigate this. I obviously need as much data as possible. It seems there's more to the story than anyone currently knows...

[@daveboutflour8146]

Had similar story. Took oral min, experienced the same symptoms so went to gp for the same range of tests. All normal. Carried on as before on 5mg.

[@MrRolandas]

Weird! How long ago did this happen? How do you feel now?

[@daveboutflour8146]

@@MrRolandas it was about 2 years after starting so about 1 year ago. Fine now though everything went away. Strange how we experienced the same thing though.

[@MrRolandas]

Indeed! I've seen a few very similar comments online with exact same descriptions lol I must investigate this further. Something is up.. Do you mind to share more of it privately?

[@daveboutflour8146]

@@MrRolandas sure I’ll share as much as I can my friend.

[@MrRolandas]

🐐

[@bichillocv]

I find my self having more side effects from oral minoxidil than from Finasteride altogether, the only minoxidil i tolerate is topical at only 2%, even the 5% one gives me terrible sides, insomnia, irregular heart beat, erectile dysfunction, less pumps at the gym, lethargy and so on. Terrible drug for my system, i guess i am simply over responder since with the 2% i get to keep all my hair, only take Finasteride twice per week

[@MrRolandas]

Technically it's a good thing. The objective is always to try and take whathever you need to keep your hair at smallest possible dosages. That's a win in my books if you got to keep your hair!

[@rhhum]

Hello, how can we thicken the hair in the temple area?

[@MrRolandas]

Minoxidil & microneedling on that area

[@holli4447]

I dont really have a story with Oral minoxidil yet lol. I was on topical M but it was just such a hassle to do every day and I didn't like the residue it left in my hair. I've been on 1.25MG Oral minoxidil for ab a week now with seemingly no side effects. I can see all the baby hairs coming in though so I got no intention of going beyond 1.25MG.

[@MrRolandas]

According to studies, after first week you are mostly clear from serious sides. But also this is a very low dose.

[@holli4447]

@@MrRolandas awesome, that's good to know

[@exactly1176]

Dutasteride master race at 0.5mg per day here. I was also using topical minoxidil before but i will have a cat soon so i decided to get on oral minoxidil. So I've been on oral minoxidil for 2 weeks (first week on 5mg but had some side effects). Then i switched to 2.5mg a day and i have no side effect anymore. I will therefore keep going on with 2.5mg oral minoxidil as well as 0.5mg dutasteride. From the studies, 5mg oral minoxidil has about 20% of side effects when 2.5mg has about 4.8% of side effects. So when you double the dose from 2.5 to 5mg you get 4 times the risk to get problems.... 🤔 Not worth it imo !!! 2.5mg seems to be the sweet spot for men (effective enough while having a good side effects profil). 👍 . 5mg is more of a risk... i respect it but i won't push myself toward it.

[@MrRolandas]

I'm right there with you on all of it. Good for you to get on dut everyday. 🐐

[@exactly1176]

​@@MrRolandasyes I saw no difference In terms of side effects between finasteride and dutasteride (aside from better hair growth with dutasteride) . The side effects profil is about the same for both drugs unlike what most people think. Dutasteride is a better choice for an " upgrade " than upgrading from 2.5mg OM to 5mg OM in my opinion. More safe to just upgrade to dutasteride for aggressive hairloss cases

[@MrRolandas]

Yeah that's a good statement between upgrades. I'll probably jump on dut at some point in the future

[@acquiesce100]

10 mg daily!!! Started at 2.5 mg daily and titrated up to 5mg daily and then eventually 10mg daily. 5mg morning and 5mg evening with 12 hr break in between doses. My dr is from the the pioneering clinic in Spain who the rest of the world look to for guidance and who are regarded as the experts when it comes to oral minoxidil and androgenic alopecia. I think you know who I am talking about. No negative side effects whatsoever!!! Don’t listen to Dr KZbinrs and all the scare tactics.

[@MrRolandas]

10mg, damn! I have no doubt Dr. Vanio has wealth of experience. How long you've been on it? Your gains must be insane at this dose!

[@acquiesce100]

@@MrRolandas 10 months at that dose. All I will say is thank goodness I never listened to all the Dr wanabee KZbinrs, naysayers, negative people using scare tactics (often people from USA), the bald truth podcast etc. I was advised to stop listening to them. They don't have the experience. Oh Mr Rolandas, you haven't even heard the best yet! I think it's time I went on a Podcast. I would blow the roof off.

[@MrRolandas]

@@acquiesce100 Sounds interesting! You wanna join me instead for a video? 🤣

[@acquiesce100]

@@MrRolandas I will at some point and you are the only person I will do it with. I'm just about to have eye surgery. You and I started Oral Minoxidil the same day I think and you helped me out with a question at the time. I don't forget when people have been kind to me. And yes, I will show you all proof etc, my treatment reports etc You won't get your breath and what I will reveal! I'm delighted you got the reassurance from your tests ( as expected) so its further proof, don't get caught up in all the (often American) scare stories. No disrespect to Americans but I have found Americans have a real scarcity mindset about certain things. Perhaps why they have such a fixation with Finasteride symptoms. Anyway, we can discuss it all. It will be a blast.

[@MrRolandas]

@@acquiesce100 Damn, you got me all intrigued hahaha Drop me an email some time soon, I'll let you know what I had in mind. You might like the idea.

[@Deloitted]

Even a slight increase in your heart rate is associated with earlier mortality. Never mind the other risks. Dermatologists have no business prescribing a hypertension drug that directly impacts the heart.

[@exactly1176]

" even a slight increase in your heart rate is associated with earlier mortality " . Yes and no. It's not that simple actually. Caffeine for example does slightly increase your hear rate but it's known to prevent (reduce the risks) of cardiovascular disease long term (as long as you don't drink too much tea or coffee or course . It depends on the dose. The same goes with oral minoxidil. It could actually be beneficial for your heart as long as the dose is very low and you tolerate it well. When you do exercise your heart rate increased by a lot (temporarily) and then decrease etc... 2.5 oral minoxidil doesn't really impact the cardiovascular system according to studies but 5mg does have an impact. Again : the dose does the poison . Coffee is good or bad for your heart depending on how much coffee you drink. Again : it's not that simple. Edit : but I agree with you about dermatologists prescribing oral minoxidil like candies ... that's not good. Especially 5mg... (4 times higher side effects profil compared to 2.5mg according to literature). 2.5mg is quite safe and could prevent hypertension problems long term however.

[@MrRolandas]

I've showed my heart rate back in 2019, it was 72 while recently it was 71 around same time of the day. So no real change.

[@exactly1176]

​@MrRolandas that's very interesting cause it confirms the literature around the dose of 2.5mg oral minoxidil. This dose doesn't change the heart rate on most people anyway. It's starting to change from 5mg a day according to the literature. Once again the OM 2.5mg seems to be the sweet spot for men. Effective enough while having a very good side effects profil.

[@Deloitted]

@@exactly1176 it actually is that simple. Do a Google search and look at the research.

[@DC-wo2yb]

Dying earlier isn't a bad trade off for keeping your hair. People should have the right to choose. You have no business in telling someone they should go bald so they can be super old for a few more years.

[@husseinhammoud7047]

Im on 3 mg oral mino with 1,25 finast no side effect.

[@MrRolandas]

🐐

[@bennybenny7382]

You should drop your dose to 0.5mg fin, probably no need for 1.25mg

[@gfxraven1235]

we Need more videos

[@MrRolandas]

Coming up!

[@dwaynesimpson7956]

🇯🇲 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲 thanks for the update

[@MrRolandas]

You're here!

[@pd1664]

I hade extream chest/heart kramp during "high intens situations" wile on topical Min

[@pd1664]

Stoped having those when i'd been of it. Things normalized thank god..

[@pd1664]

Allmost F-ed myself to death😂

[@MrRolandas]

@@pd1664 from topical minoxidil? wow

[@Re-Destro]

What's up with the dramatic music? Doesn't suit the video, lol.

[@MrRolandas]

It doesn't? 🥲😅

[@print24service]

I m on 0,5 min from now 1 year no side effects

[@MrRolandas]

0.5mg of oral min? That's quite a small dose. Do you see any benefits from it?

[@randalboatman5996]

what are your thoughts on stem cell hair transplants maybe you could do a video about it?

[@MrRolandas]

Stem cell hair transplant? This sounds like a two separate things - stem cell injection (likely with prp) immediately after transplant. Named it this way of course to sound cool, pretend they have something special 😅

[@davidomeara4704]

I had sides in it im gonna try 1.25mg again

[@MrRolandas]

what sides did you have?

[@davidomeara4704]

@@MrRolandas skin itching, fatigue , dry skin l and a weird sensation in my chest