Subaru Head Bolts: Reusable or One & Done?

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MrSubaru1387

MrSubaru1387

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@Specialfx63
@Specialfx63 4 жыл бұрын
I've been an Automotive Tech from way back in the 1980's. I have a background as a Machinist and currently work as a Technician in a hi-tech manufacturing facility. Your presentation is one of the BEST I've seen regarding TTY fasteners, Torque Angle, etc. My family has owned at least 10 Subarus over the years an still owns 3 that are 10 years old or more. All running great. You've always been a Go-To source for all things Subaru. Great job and thank you!
@Specialfx63
@Specialfx63 4 жыл бұрын
It was concise, on point, especially how it relates to Scoobie Doo owners and all the myths that cause many to panic and wind up spending a lot of money that they otherwise would not need to. Keep up the good work!
@DKSE123
@DKSE123 2 жыл бұрын
Replaced head gaskets on 2001 fozzy 5 years ago. I didn't remove the engine from car , as there was enough room . I replaced head gaskets at 182,000 , now has almost 245,000
@johnschaefer4129
@johnschaefer4129 Жыл бұрын
totally not scatterbrained, actually easy to follow and understand. my confidence level to approach this job is definitely higher after watching. i just need to find a good machine shop in my area to take the heads to
@drayen667
@drayen667 4 жыл бұрын
Wow... You sir are a scholar and a wizard amongst auto techs! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
@bullnukeoldman3794
@bullnukeoldman3794 3 жыл бұрын
Very well explained. The use of mechanical fasteners is, in general, not well understood. I began to understand years ago when torquing the 3" diameter studs on a nuclear reactor cover plate using a heater in the hollow stud, a 50-ton bridge crane to stretch the stud while the nut was screwed down hand-tight. Crane tension released, nut/stud perfectly torqued to spec, no evil stuff able to leak out the seal.
@1oldteck
@1oldteck 2 жыл бұрын
I have been following you for a while now but.... I ALWAYS learn something new (or confirm what I believed.. a tech for 38 yrs. Love Subaru. Never worked at dealership. So learned on the fly So once again thank you for teaching us and confirming things I love the videos and it's so nice to prove to somebody else that the bolts are reusable lol So many parts first say no they're not reusable...You have to buy new ones.... 😂
@HomebrewSubaru
@HomebrewSubaru 4 жыл бұрын
Very happy to know your opinion is something I can agree with. I have done a minimum of 50 Subaru head gasket or engine jobs in private shops and never once replaced head bolts. Never ever had a premature failure. 👍👍
@psavel274
@psavel274 3 жыл бұрын
The general rule is if it is a 'stretch bolt' aka TTY, to toss the fastener out. Its junk after it stretches. I run ARP'S on all my stuff so I reuse them all day. Good video, nice to see someone break down the B.S. better than I can lol
@tsakaln1
@tsakaln1 4 жыл бұрын
@Mr. Subaru, This was exceptionally well explained! Great video and am looking forward to more! Especially if they can pertain to post 2008 Foresters in the future. Thanks again for all your work in sharing your knowledge! I actually like instructional videos where you do a detailed review of aspects of previous repairs. Just as a FYI of my view... I am not as interested in tool reviews from you, although they are excellent, because those are a dime a dozen on KZbin. I come to your channel for Subaru content and Subaru content only. MUCH APPRECIATED!
@jtraveny
@jtraveny 4 жыл бұрын
i love these videos you make, i really can't wait to get a subaru
@Boxerdad27
@Boxerdad27 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll never get anywhere near that in depth with my maintenance or repair but it’s good to know.
@802Garage
@802Garage 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always. Very conclusive answer. I'm sure I'll be linking this to many misinformed people.
@rodndrone1198
@rodndrone1198 3 жыл бұрын
I've reused them on the 2.5l at 170000. No issues, sold vehicle at 270000.
@firstlast5885
@firstlast5885 4 жыл бұрын
Great job! You answered all my questions!!! 👍👍👍 Keep doing what you do. Thanks!
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@escargod
@escargod 4 жыл бұрын
Too long, but subject was well-covered. Two things: To really know if the bolts might actually stretch to yield (stay elongated) you must measure the actual bolt before and after, much like you measure rod bolts when tightening. It might even be possible to strip out the threads before you get to yield, but I doubt it unless the case threads have see a lot of use or the bolt threads were bad and damaged the case threads. Secondly, I wish you had mentioned the use of assembly lube (like ARP sells) and whether that is allowable for lubrication versus motor oil. I would think it would actually be better and give more consistent torquing due to less friction than with plain oil. The final tightening by degrees is dependent on the last torquing being accurate, even though it is a moderately low number and not a lot of friction is involved. Thanks for making the video!
@elrolo3711
@elrolo3711 2 жыл бұрын
Mr Subaru...You are an excellent teacher and really good at explaining the details and also showing examples of doing it. I have never owned or worked on a Subaru but your mechanic methods could apply to many applications l'm sure. I'm hooked on watching your videos and enjoy reading the comments.
@sorensonautomotiveincimpor7484
@sorensonautomotiveincimpor7484 4 жыл бұрын
We don't replace them unless we have a creaking issue, and even then we just grab a HB out of the bin. wire wheel threads, oil threads, moly between the washers and your good.
@Bmiguelpaiva
@Bmiguelpaiva 4 жыл бұрын
Another great learning video. Less 60$ to spend on head bolts 👍👌😍😊 Thank you.
@mlusk1237
@mlusk1237 4 жыл бұрын
Hi When I put my machined heads on the new Subaru Short block on my 2008 Subaru Legacy GT Turbo - I was pretty nervous about this whole area and bought new head bolts. The dealership mechanic said re-use old ones. Machine shop who did the heads said I was nuts to do that - and get new ones (they won out in my mind - I got scared). Heck, I still have the old ones. This is most helpful to know I didnt need to do that. Thanks!
@Trex6767
@Trex6767 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Lusk Rule of thumb doesn’t always hurt to listen to a Subaru tech. They’ve got experience. However can’t say I blame you, there are hacks out there. Anyway hope your legacy gt is doing well. Love those cars
@MrANKIT30
@MrANKIT30 4 ай бұрын
I'm about to do a new ej207 shortblock on my 07 legacy gt. I'm also confused if to use new head bolts or use the old ones
@alvinmitchell6799
@alvinmitchell6799 8 ай бұрын
When torquing bolts on my EJ25D I gauged the torque when turning the second 90 degrees. There was on average between 78 to 80 ft*lbs.
@Natedoc808
@Natedoc808 4 жыл бұрын
Considering I found a broken factory torqued head bolt in lower cyl 4 position when I popped the heads off my ej205, I went ARP studs on the full rebuild
@meanodustino9563
@meanodustino9563 4 жыл бұрын
When i young I rebuilt a ej25. Did not know to oil threads for the head bolts. Freshly rebuilt block from machine shop. Hour later it went back. As I attempted to tighten the head bolts dry😞(SNAP!!!!) broken the bolt in two
@jacquewarnars8623
@jacquewarnars8623 4 ай бұрын
In tool & die jargen, they look like Chicago screws made to get you more movement for inaccuracies of manufactured parts. It looks like we have a new use for them.
@ozzyolof9209
@ozzyolof9209 4 жыл бұрын
When doing h/gaskets on my 98 WRX, I found using NEVER-SEEZ,pure nickel special, anti seize compound on h/bolts. Eliminates all grabbing and gives a beautiful smooth tightening transition. Been in engineering since 1970,and swear by this stuff. Cheers from Australia and my old REXY is still hammering!
@johnhill5829
@johnhill5829 3 жыл бұрын
Great and informative vid mate! much appreciated.
@SubaDriver
@SubaDriver 4 жыл бұрын
I've reused my EZ30 NA head bolts with no issue. I cleaned and deoiling them. Then oiled the thread. Spun on the manual with all the moments and twists. The bolt did not produce any creaks. And I wasn't first who did that with my EZ30.
@juanbrasal8723
@juanbrasal8723 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr Subaru, Great video, explaining key points on the tightening of the CH and very helpful when doing my Suby CH. The Tensile Stress-Strain presentation was very easy to follow and on point. Thank you for the video.
@johnwhite2728
@johnwhite2728 2 жыл бұрын
Not only CAN you teach an old dog new tricks, an old dog can learn from a newer dog. The fact that this video set the record Straight regarding tty bolts is actually less significant for me. The greatest part, is that this gives me hope for the younger generations.
@CajunShrek
@CajunShrek 2 жыл бұрын
2ish I've would have known that... When I ordered head gasket set it strongly recommend to replace head bolts ... Would've saved money
@TreyCook21
@TreyCook21 4 жыл бұрын
Eric O. at SMA is trying to sell a lift if you're interested. I just know you're back to the dirt and this might be an option for when you get a building sorted. Only a few states away!
@jltrack
@jltrack 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve reused my head bolts once with no problem. Make sure you use a good amount of engine oil on the threads. Assembly lube would be better.
@psavel274
@psavel274 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely a good idea as long as the cavity isn't overloaded with oil, coolant, etc. You can hydro lock the threads and actually crack the part your bolting it to. Excess fluid can also throw off the torque accuracy in some instances. A dab on the threads and under the washer is all you need. It's good practice to use a blowgun to blow out all the threads to make sure one hasn't filled up with crap before you bolt it down. You hit on everything that anyone who turns a wrench should know. I actually commented on this before I even watched a minute of the video so we think alike here. Definitely touched on all the points here. 👍👍
@ovalwingnut
@ovalwingnut 8 ай бұрын
ShOcK & AWE outstanding Gear Head info. You R the "Subaru Whisperer" The check is in the mail.
@ericn7698
@ericn7698 4 жыл бұрын
Yaaay! I got the correct answer in your poll. Thanks for the great video.
@dlasher1811
@dlasher1811 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely GREAT video!!! Answers many questions with great details and facts. Yet I have more questions. Does Subaru ever use Torque-To-Yield bolts? If my Subaru has standard head bolts, are Torque-To-Yield bolts NOT recommended? If one purchases new Torque-To-Yield bolts, would the torque sequence / process be different from the official Subaru process? If so, where may I find the proper torque sequence / process for the Torque-To-Yield bolts?
@andrewmacleod620
@andrewmacleod620 2 жыл бұрын
I think what you're trying to say is that torque is only a measurement of the rotational force exerted to tighten the bolt. That's not directly measuring the actual clamping force it's putting on the head/gasket/block interface. So, since you can't directly measure that force, you just have to base it on the torque of the bolt, hence the angle measurement.
@JPAutoService
@JPAutoService 4 жыл бұрын
Used factory bolts are better than new aftermarket bolts. Aftermarket bolts always have dinged up threads and are never as straight as genuine bolts. If you are anal buy new bolts from the dealer, otherwise inspect your old bolts and reuse them. Subaru changed the torque sequence over and over throughout the ej engine era although they are all essentially the same. It's all bs, Subaru engineers purposely used inferior head gaskets on all of the N/A motors, knowing that they will fail at 100k. All of the turbo motors use mls gaskets that never fail because the engineers knew they wouldn't make it through the warranty period otherwise. The dohc turbo mls gaskets actually fit the sohc N/A motors, if you use these they will never leak again. Oil the bolts well, use turbo gaskets and torque bolts to 80 lb-ft and they will never leak again.
@mr.nobody4900
@mr.nobody4900 4 жыл бұрын
Clear and concise, perfect
@ezekielstinnett6871
@ezekielstinnett6871 4 жыл бұрын
I've reused mine on my ej22t
@paulgraumann2774
@paulgraumann2774 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video learned a lot about subaru 2.5 issue thanks.
@awakedust
@awakedust 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Case closed! I spent hours researching this topic when replacing the head gaskets on my first engine. I finally settled on reusing the bolts but because of all the conflicting info I was still nervous about it. Now doing a second engine and because of this video I have 110% confidence that reusing them is fine. Thanks man! One thing that would be interesting to know is what exactly is the difference between the corner and center bolts? Different grade steel or something? Also, why are they different in the first place? Because they're getting torqued to slightly different specs the bolts have to be different? Just curious about that...
@JustAnotherAlchemist
@JustAnotherAlchemist Жыл бұрын
I know it's two year too late, but I have what I believe to be an answer for you... Imagine that we had 2 cylinders, but we keep the heads separate. You would expect 8 bolts total, since you need 4 each to hold down each head. Now imagine that we take those separate cylinders and merge them together side-by-side as close as we can. As you get them closer and closer, eventually the 4 inner most bolts would become superimposed on each other. Since objects can't occupy the same space at the same time, you would have to get rid of some bolts. Doing this you would arrive at a 6 bolt single head, as is what we see with our EJ's. What should be immediately obvious from this logic is that the 2 center bolts must necessarily be doing the work of 4 bolts if the system is to function the same as it had being separate cylinders. TL;DR, it's a "four bolt to a cylinder" design at it's core, just the two cylinders share the center bolts for space economy efficiency reasons. Hope that sorts things out for you, but especially anyone else reading this in the future.
@alisdairolavhorgen2173
@alisdairolavhorgen2173 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful indeed. Thank you 👍😊
@marcleib8931
@marcleib8931 10 ай бұрын
Is there a nice to see somebody on the internet that knows what he's talking about it puts a good joke in there and makes it so I can understand what I'm doing
@Trex6767
@Trex6767 4 жыл бұрын
When I’m doing valve springs on the frs the Subaru part numbers can mix me up. I’m used to Toyota part numbers. Example is 12345-67890. The frs part numbers are like SU251AB253 for example
@ronaldkulas5748
@ronaldkulas5748 4 жыл бұрын
My wife inherited a 2012 4cyl. Outback with 50K miles. I noticed on one of your videos that you said a 2012 headgasket will eventually fail...it is just a matter of time. With that in mind, I am contemplating having the timing belt changed this summer because I have the belief that timing belts should be changed either at 80K or 8 years old. I acquired this belief from personal experience. IUO, when I have the timing belt changed, should I have the head gaskets changed too? Time and convenience are very important to me, and the expense is a tertiary concern. I would like to have your opinion.
@jordangouveia1863
@jordangouveia1863 Жыл бұрын
If there is any stretch I'd guess it is the AL female threads, not the steel bolts.
@davidpowell3347
@davidpowell3347 6 ай бұрын
I suppose that the ARP stud kits cost a lot more than a new set of factory head bolts (are people in the field substituting cheap new Chinese head bolts for the Factory item or are there counterfeit head bolts floating around out there ?) I guess the ARP studs come with their proper washers and nuts?
@xiot2
@xiot2 Жыл бұрын
Stock turbo application ok to reuse. Im not adding any horsepower.
@stevenfuchs2548
@stevenfuchs2548 4 жыл бұрын
Well I guess I'll pull out the new ones and put back the old ones! Darn could have bought some good beer! Glad I saved them.
@Grooove_e
@Grooove_e 4 жыл бұрын
Why do you have a green screen of a dealership shop behind you?
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын
Looks better than standing in my living room.
@Grooove_e
@Grooove_e 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrSubaru1387 Fair enough 👌🏼
@tylervoit9447
@tylervoit9447 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man your videos have been very informative was wondering how ypu feel about chasing the threads should help promote acurrate torque correct?
@OutandAboutwithTrev
@OutandAboutwithTrev 4 жыл бұрын
I am about to get a 2001 Subaru Outback limited version vehicle and need to replace the head gaskets. I was told that you can do that with the engine in the car but after watching a couple of videos including this one I've decided to take it to do this. Thanks for showing just how tricky it would have been - thanks for the information.
@jenwebb6763
@jenwebb6763 7 ай бұрын
Does it matter what kind of oil you use on the bolt? So just a thin layer on the spots you said?
@helljumper5586
@helljumper5586 6 ай бұрын
How long should it take a competent mechanic to pull the engine out, do the head gaskets and the rear main seal at the same time? Just wanting to make sure I am not getting ripped off
@jamesedmondson7265
@jamesedmondson7265 4 жыл бұрын
Question time. I do lots of head gaskets on single overhead cam ej251 motors at my shop. Due to the failure of the head gaskets leaking I replace them with the mls turbo gaskets. Do I use the tightening procedure for the quad cam motor or continue to use the procedure for the single overhead cam
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, not sure if it matter which procedure you use. I go by whichever procedure that model year calls for in the service manual. Haven't had an issue.
@jamesedmondson7265
@jamesedmondson7265 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrSubaru1387 thanks. Do you also go the mls gaskets over the standed one?
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesedmondson7265 100%. I only use the MLS gaskets
@matth.4932
@matth.4932 4 жыл бұрын
Great videos and very informative! I know you said we need to torque first to squish then back bolts before final torque, assuming you're using the oe single layer steel vs the Subaru uncoated MLS gasket for EJ253 SOHC NA. But is the squish step necessary for the MLS type gaskets? I've heard some subi techs skip squish step. My 02 Honda civic 1.7 SOHC NA has MLS and it didnt call for a squish and final torque step. Per your recommendation, im going to be using the mls on my subi, the design is the same as their oe single layer steel gasket. Thanks for all the help and great videos
@wyomikey65
@wyomikey65 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you asked that question. I was wondering the same thing. I've done about 4 HG jobs and i always re use my bolts and like you i don't do a squish of the HG before; i use PermaTorque MLS gaskets. In fact, i do my torque sequence a lil different. 11ft/l bs on all 6, then 25 ft/lbs on the two center bolts, then starting at the center i do 90 degree torque sequence twice. haven't had issues yet.
@corthirteenth94
@corthirteenth94 2 жыл бұрын
The squish step is neccessary; this centers and crushes the 3+ layers in the MLS gasket together prior to final torquing.
@darkfalcon75
@darkfalcon75 4 ай бұрын
Good afternoon. I first time working on my Subaru legacy l. This a question I had because my alldata state u ha e to change them but the stress u putting on it is on the Aluminum at heads and block.. I'm about to do this boxer motor with out sending to a shop/pro on this. I've asked many tech and they say yes other say no.. thing is I want to fix my car right way and get less then 100k more out of that motor before a full rebuild car has 189k and I picked up for dirt cheap. My leak gasket is cylinder 4 into the water side.. and I'm running it to it get hot by then Im At the shop cool down. For a 2.5l no e turbo and don't want to use the Graph, I guess cause everyone keeps telling me.And I know of graphic guests just failing in gyms.And I knowther high rate of graphic gaskets is worthless.. we do t use that u less customer budget don't allow for the steal gasket. This where I mixed at also.. I don't mind d taking this out and doing over again but not to next year or so.. so I e been shopping around for gasket and it so funny now that they so cheaply made today.. I hear u can use the gasket from the turbo one on the 2.5. But I don't want to mod things just want to do bolt on and off I go.. I thank u for letting me know I can reuse the head bolts again and rub the bolts like we do with the arp bolts and my fear is cracking the block and is OK to put one lbs more for the center bolts at it last pass.. just want to make sure this can be done or what do u Recommend? I like this car because how simple everything is to fix or replace.. head gasket kit you Recommend? Thank u brother..
@JoseRamirez-em7zp
@JoseRamirez-em7zp 4 жыл бұрын
Hello grateful info one question what if you mix the bolt are there any differents
@CharlesAndCars
@CharlesAndCars 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a difference when torqueing the composite gasket vs mls. Gettting ready to do heads in a non-turbo 2007 2.5, but I'm going to use the mls gaskets.
@chrismc410
@chrismc410 7 ай бұрын
Would it be cheap insurance to replace the bolts anyway? They can't be that expensive
@katthemechanic
@katthemechanic Ай бұрын
Thanks for this video so just want to check that it's ok for the EJ 25 engine head bolts to be reused as well? thx
@MatthewRichey
@MatthewRichey 3 жыл бұрын
Such a wonderful video!!! Thank you so much!!!!!!!
@bensautocrusades2001
@bensautocrusades2001 2 жыл бұрын
How do I tell which side of the gasket goes which direction on the Subaru mls gasket?
@johnlankford7347
@johnlankford7347 2 жыл бұрын
Two of my bolts sh9ow surface rust on the shaft, do I need to replace?
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 2 жыл бұрын
Odd to see rusting on them. Likely would replace with a Subaru genuine bolt. Aftermarket bolts are a no-go.
@steves2347
@steves2347 Жыл бұрын
one and done on boosted applications save yourself the headache and get arp studs
@jeremiahjorenby2275
@jeremiahjorenby2275 4 жыл бұрын
On my first HG job, I tried to use felpro head bolts, those things are such trash, as I was doing step 2 of the torque sequence, the bolt broke in half in the block........after I returned them I found out they were more expensive than factory bolts!..........strangely, my local subie dealer has drawers full of head bolts.....and I have seen invoices for HG jobs they've done, they do replace all 12 bolts, their techs must've bought into the stretch bolt lies too
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын
You aren't the first to tell me they snapped a Fel-Pro head bolt off. OE bolts are the only way to go.
@forresttaylor2757
@forresttaylor2757 4 жыл бұрын
I snapped 2 fel pro bolts off on my first head gasket job. Oem bolts ever since(when they actually need replacement).
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын
Fail-Pro head bolts have a reputation for breaking on install. Straight garbage..
@davidpowell3347
@davidpowell3347 6 ай бұрын
@@MrSubaru1387 Are some of these old brand names not the quality that they used to be when they made their reputations : like back in the 1950s and 1960s ?
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 6 ай бұрын
@@davidpowell3347 absolutely not. They’re manufacturing in the 3rd world now to the lowest bidder.
@MOONARCH420
@MOONARCH420 4 жыл бұрын
What's the best seal kit I can use for a turbo subaru?
@widmarkeloo6812
@widmarkeloo6812 4 ай бұрын
Hello I've noticed on the ej2.0 turbo, some say 27ft lbs on 1 and 2 bolts and 14ft lbs on 3, 4 5 6. before doing the 80 to 90 twice. is this correct?
@CajunShrek
@CajunShrek 2 жыл бұрын
What about light coat copper anti seize over oil coating?
@kopboy55
@kopboy55 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought a SVX, Would love some content, also if you have any fenders laying around...
@ernestocastro66
@ernestocastro66 3 жыл бұрын
Did you find any SVX content? My son bought a SVX..
@kopboy55
@kopboy55 3 жыл бұрын
@@ernestocastro66 Not very much, temped to get my canon out and start showing people how to work on them, going to be painting mine soon been doing bodywork and such. good luck finding some though
@ernestocastro66
@ernestocastro66 3 жыл бұрын
@@kopboy55 I found a couple people working on their SVX on KZbin .. someone on KZbin shared all the service manuals!
@ruliusraulestevezvargas5707
@ruliusraulestevezvargas5707 4 жыл бұрын
But where can I find a service manual for my subaru? Please...
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын
Jdmfsm.info
@TreyCook21
@TreyCook21 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this question, and the other you, for the answer!
@RicardoRamirez-fz7bh
@RicardoRamirez-fz7bh 4 жыл бұрын
Muy Buena explicacion
@johannlangner289
@johannlangner289 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I got a 2007 subaru outback 2.5L (non turbo) I'm experiencing pressurized cooling system. Some sweating oil on the bottom back of headgaskets but not major. Looks like the coolant is not mixing with the motor oil though. I got alot going on, gotta move from Arkansas to South Dakota in the next couple of weeks, so my question is, should I hurry and replace the headgaskets, or put some kind of stop leak in and do the headgaskets after we settled in up north? If I do go with the stop leak, what is the best to use?
@jamesbruno5896
@jamesbruno5896 4 жыл бұрын
Great info thanks for sharing!
@junkyardvette613
@junkyardvette613 4 жыл бұрын
I torked mine to 50 ft than to 75 on outer and 80 on inter bolts.
@morganlawless2714
@morganlawless2714 3 ай бұрын
do the dowels need to be replaced?
@ilostmywind
@ilostmywind 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2003 Baja with bad head gaskets. To fix, I bought turbo head gaskets MLS from 2006 part number 11044AA642. Are these turbo gaskets going to be a permanent fix from your experience? Thank you.
@mikesheppard6927
@mikesheppard6927 9 ай бұрын
Mr. Subaru, Do you have any recommendations for aftermarket studs for the torquing of studs (Allen head studs) in block,and then torques on the nuts. 2006 2.5 DOHC Baja turbo. Learning a lot from your videos. Keep up the good work.
@mikesheppard6927
@mikesheppard6927 9 ай бұрын
Never mind. Should have watched the complete video 😂
@escargod
@escargod 4 жыл бұрын
You mentioned "lint" a few times, unless I misunderstood. What are you referring to?
@firstielasty1162
@firstielasty1162 10 ай бұрын
When I hear "stretch bolt", I just take it as gearhead slang for a "torque to yield " bolt, but it is a misnomer. Every tension type fastener you tighten from a tiny woodscrew to the head bolts on giant ship diesels stretches. Everything is a spring of sorts, every material has a spring rate. 10 ft lbs on a 2" diameter bolt just doesn't stretch it much. Most bolts are tightened only within their elastic range, traditionally, and reaching the yield strength means you've permanently deformed it, it's junk. Intentionally doing this to a bolt, as in TTY, has become more common, it results in more consistent clamping force being achieved. Harder to overdo it, as the fastener will just continue to yield. But those reusable Subaru head bolts are most certainly stretching, and the head material under the bolt head is compressing/deforming. Just not permanently. Very nice rod bolts are sometimes tightened by measuring relaxed vs installed length...measuring the stretch. But that won't work on a head bolt in a blind hole. Angle torque is a variation on that method, since a certain amount of rotation will result in a known stretch, based on the thread pitch. The angle part of the torque sequence is unaffected by friction, other than you needing to pull harder to reach the needed angle. Stretch bolt is a bad description...the only bolt that is not stretched is a loose bolt.
@davidpowell3347
@davidpowell3347 6 ай бұрын
Does the use of "torque to yield" bolts allow the manufacturer to cheap out a bit by using a smaller part that ultimately does not have as much reserve strength ?
@juniorbiel24
@juniorbiel24 3 жыл бұрын
Should I replace my stock studs and bolts that hold my jpipe to the turbo on my 2020 wrx when replacing it with a cobb jpipe? It only has 16k miles.
@mateocarlos2674
@mateocarlos2674 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Subaru, my 120k miles, non-turbo 2.5 just started overheating. Ran a block test and only get combustion gasses in the radiator when the fans turn on. To me, this indicates that at a certain temperature, and only then, the problem appears. Is it possible that all I need to do is retourque the head bolts? If a head gasket is blown, it leaks at all temperatures, right? If so, can I just remove the valve covers. And do it relatively easily?
@bruh2677
@bruh2677 2 жыл бұрын
Although your information is true, I still always replace the head bolts when replacing a head gasket.
@twister8310
@twister8310 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Do you by any chance know if the procedure for the EE20 diesel (2011) is the same? Both in which way to tighten/ untighten and the amount of torque required? Greetings from Norway 🇳🇴
@albertrobinson6018
@albertrobinson6018 4 жыл бұрын
hey i got your head gaskets and head bolts on Amazon. Thanks! Question i got confused between foot lbs and NM in the manual. So i over torqued to 69 instead of 51 before i backed them up. and 34 instead of 25 on 1 & 2...do i need to replace the head gasket and start over? I hope i didnt damage the heads!
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын
You should be OK. If you pull it apart, you'll have to install new head gaskets.
@albertrobinson6018
@albertrobinson6018 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrSubaru1387 wish i had watched this video first. i believe i may have split the block or something when bottoming out #6 there was a pop. i believe i had too much oil on the bolt? im pulling my hair thinking i screwed up
@northernpatriot9078
@northernpatriot9078 4 жыл бұрын
Hi wow Mr Subaru this is the go to video for us techs or DIY when doing heads I wanted to ask you how critical do you think having STIS if I was to strike out and do my own thing I still need to get a scan tool but I want to specialize in Subarus I will start very small just husling details with local Subaru owners and then see if I can do some diagnostics or engine work , How important is it to have STIS In a Subaru shop ?????? Thank you Subaru =unity NORTHERN BOXER TECHNOLOGIES (tm)
@b33fcake34
@b33fcake34 4 жыл бұрын
The sequence at 10:24 is for new bolts correct and not for reusing old bolts?
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын
Both.
@b33fcake34
@b33fcake34 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrSubaru1387 Ok, I used the method on one of your older videos which you reuse the bolts. Does that method still work? It was the video were you show how to replace the head gasket
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын
@@b33fcake34 yes. Done it that way many times as well.
@b33fcake34
@b33fcake34 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrSubaru1387 ok thank you, just needed to make sure I did it right.
@b33fcake34
@b33fcake34 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrSubaru1387 Another question, how clean does the block surface need to be? I had the heads sent to the shop and i've been cleaning the block surface on and off for a couple days. I've used a razor, a rag with brake cleaner, and a abrasive and there is still some black/gray discoloration on the surface but it feels smooth. Does the block surface need to have a nice shiny metal color or is the discoloration fine as long as the surface is smooth?
@mijikle
@mijikle 3 жыл бұрын
Same torque specs for turbo cars?
@ginascully-zy5fq
@ginascully-zy5fq 4 ай бұрын
Mr subsru im hoping maybe you could poss help me out i was a heavy mech for 34. Years when i was 42 i was pulling a bull wheel off a rock crusher. The tool broke the enertia threw me off the crusher 16' fall i broke my back 4 surguries didnt stop me i returned to work and retired when i was 63 i bought a beatiful 2012 outback w 6 speed man tra ns im afraid off cvt trans got my heads rebuilt un fortunately there was some o ne in there it hadturbo head gaskets on it after carfull ins there isa repair on top of cly bore any Suggestion i need a cly block i have 10000 dollars in this car i live in the mountains of ny lots of snow please if you know any way of saving this car much thanks gov retirement not financiäly helping
@cobra454tim
@cobra454tim 4 жыл бұрын
I’m assuming this is all done at the factory in Japan by computer robot and probably all the head bolts at the same time I’m sure instead of individually doing them🤷🏼‍♂️
@FMCWIZZI
@FMCWIZZI Жыл бұрын
Would this sequence work for a 2017 wrx sti?
@allthehandlesweretaken
@allthehandlesweretaken 4 жыл бұрын
what about the case bolts?
@ulysesblanco1780
@ulysesblanco1780 4 жыл бұрын
Is it safe to buy a 15 year old Subaru Legacy Outback with a 3.0 r
@alitoroganan2442
@alitoroganan2442 4 жыл бұрын
hows it going man, may i ask if i need a new headgasket if i am replacing my headstuds and bolts with an aftermarket, sorry for the dumb question
@itsvoodoo7050
@itsvoodoo7050 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a EJ25 DOHC head gasket replacement video?
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын
I do.
@Spacegoat92
@Spacegoat92 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge with us good sir. So i have a naturally aspirated EJ25 that i'm doing the head gaskets on. While it's apart i was thinking of putting a turbo on it. I don't want to go too wild with it, cos it's a daily driver, but just wanna bring up the HP a bit. Would you still recommend doing the head stud upgrade to that?
@chiefin3615
@chiefin3615 4 жыл бұрын
Sure you CAN reuse them, but what's the point when something that important is at stake and you can get new head bolt set for 40 bucks?
@jeyping
@jeyping 4 жыл бұрын
That train of thought is what led me to buy new bolts when I installed my new short block. It was more like $154 for a set of bolts but still a fraction of the thousands already put into the new motor. When I was just rebuilding heads I re-used the bolts. But with a new motor it didn’t feel right to use 15-year-old 168k-mile bolts on a new motor. I want the new motor to last another 15 years and 150k miles.
@marioj3766
@marioj3766 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mr. subaru, by any chance do you what's the best video on KZbin for changing out my valve cover gasket on my 06 outback 2.5xt? also what gasket brand do you recommend? Thanks
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын
Subaru OE. They're priced just about the same as aftermarket. Can't recall if I have a cam cover gasket video on the DOHC engines or not...
@MoneyMarcMes
@MoneyMarcMes 4 жыл бұрын
What about ARP head studs? Does ARP make head studs for Subaru? Is that a better option?
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын
I talked about ARP head studs at the end of the video.
@MoneyMarcMes
@MoneyMarcMes 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrSubaru1387 Yeah I just noticed that sorry. I made the comment before the video was over. Ha Ha!!!
@joshjacob149
@joshjacob149 4 жыл бұрын
Hey mr subaru again lol so I'm about to do the headgaskets on my car and ive seen a ton of different videos and forums on torque specs and if i need to get new head bolts, in my opinion your the smartest mechanic for the question on a 2010 subaru impreza ej253 should i replace all the headbolts and what are the torque specs and angles for a ej253 motor? Thanks your the best!
@roboticunclephil
@roboticunclephil 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus christ man watch the video
@vladnickul
@vladnickul 4 жыл бұрын
*to much lught for the green screen. is making your beard green :) Thx for the info ;)
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