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Reloading Black Powder Shotgun Shells without Dies

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Tudenom

Tudenom

Күн бұрын

Reloading 12 ga shotgun shells with black powder for cowboy action shooting using common hardware store items. Some of this I learned from Mike Beliveau's youtube channel: / @duelist1954
I highly reccomend checking him out.

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@sleeperno1215
@sleeperno1215 4 ай бұрын
I watched this video years ago. I have a lot lot more experience loading blackpowder muzzleloaders and making blackpowder buckshot. So, looking at it again with fresh and experienced eyes, this video is very very good for making blackpowder shotgun shells. Very good job sir.
@jamesgenovese7319
@jamesgenovese7319 4 жыл бұрын
Notes: 1. If you drill a small hole across that 5/8-3/4" doweling where you want to cut off the hull, stick a #11 XActo blade in the hole at a slight angle and turn the dowel. The plastic will peel off and trim the hulls smooth and square at the same place every time. 2. 3f Goex is too hot for shot. Go with 1f and you will have the square load set up my DuPont in the 1830s. 3. If you use a hard card ( 1/8"-ish thick) over the powder to act like a piston you do better with your load. In some old guns plastic cups will make a mess of things. For sure use at least 3-4 more hard cards on top of one or a fiber wad. 4. Use of fiber wads alone is not why shot donuts. This is caused by acceleration. (Back to #2.) If you slow down your acceleration, shot tends to not donut. ( why your square load of 3f is too hot.) Other than that, this is a very good how to. Good show.
@roderickstrong136
@roderickstrong136 4 жыл бұрын
Love those reloaded shells. Cheaper than factory loads and accurate. Reloaded for years without using a scale. One day I put too much powder in the shell. THE results were a destroyed firing pin. Never did that again
@Shaker626
@Shaker626 2 жыл бұрын
Without a scale would be cutting it too close
@jaycousland9835
@jaycousland9835 4 жыл бұрын
Really nice to see someone else is practicing low-tech methods-very satisfying! I'm loading all brass 12 ga BP plinking slugs currently.
@silverhairseeker5539
@silverhairseeker5539 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha, love the comment about the paper punch and shell being matching pink. In the early 80's when CAS (even before SASS) started it was very common to hear all the rugged Cowboys standing around talking fashion and the Cowgirls talking 'bout their new guns. What a sport.
@xzqzq
@xzqzq 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video. Shows how easy reloading shotgun hulls, especially 12ga. are. I like BP, and have loaded shotgun, rifle, and pistol center-fire rounds, as well as cap & ball & muzzle loaders.... As you stated, if reloading fired hulls for the shotgun they were fired in, should chamber OK... If buying fired hulls, need to size the brass... Lachmiller Shell Saver works well... I use a handheld primer tool, like a nutcracker, although have had only a few primers go off pounding the brass down over the primer.... mainly .38... My supply of BP is 30 yrs old, and I've had to dry it out several times, with an incandescent bulb . Additionally, I like to do binary loads - fancy term for a dribble of smokeless over the primer, to set the BP off properly....Initially, I measured BP as carefully as smokeless...after a while, simply filled the case to the top, crammed a bullet down to compress the BP, and it worked great.... Can use a brass hull base as a primer holder, to use your 12ga as a muzzle-loader. With BP, prompt cleaning is necessary. Don't even wait to get home...with break-action single shot & double shotguns, the barrels should separate from the stock easily....place the barrel muzzle down in soapy water, run the rod & rag up & down, to get the corrosive salts neutralized. A proper cleaning at home would be great.... I enjoy firing BP in modern revolvers.... however, the action tends to get gummed up. Simply take the grips off, drop in a gallon of diesel, work the action after a day or two, repeat. ENJOY !
@mikegreenawalt4726
@mikegreenawalt4726 2 жыл бұрын
Hi is this george ulicu.. I just read your reply your very knowledgable I have been gun collector and shooter all my life just now wanting to learn about reloading can't wait plus want to learn black powder guns shooting everything
@xzqzq
@xzqzq 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Happy to help.
@koolaidblack7697
@koolaidblack7697 2 жыл бұрын
"Not like you'd wanna use black powder in one of those anyway" Funny Tudenom, I'm actually here for exactly that. I was thinking of getting one of those muzzle-loader barrels for my mossberg 500, and realized that if I really wanted the smoke and flame and smell of BP I should just load up normal shells with BP instead of paying another 100 or more dollars on a special barrel.
@tedwilliford7218
@tedwilliford7218 4 жыл бұрын
Usually you can find an older Lee Loader kit at a gun show or on the internet for $15 to $20 that has all of the tools needed to reload shotgun shells. A word of caution - if you study a reloading manual you begin to realize that reloading shotgun shells is like baking a cake and you have to use the correct components and the combination (primer, powder, wad, shot and crimp) depends on the type of hull being used based on the manufacturer. Selecting the correct components can be a challenge. Even when loading with black powder the components are important. Also, black powder is different for pistols, rifles, shotguns, and cannons so you need to use the correct granulation (Fg, FFg, FFFg, etc). It will generate high pressures if the wrong granulation is used. If shooting an old twist-steel barrel shotgun it is possible to blow up the barrel because the steel strands making up the barrel may have developed internal rusting that weakens the barrel so it is best to make that one a wall hanger display piece. Additional note, under no circumstances would a load of BB's be wise because without a proper wad and buffering material and shot cup you could banana the end of the barrel. BB's do not compress like lead shot, there is no "give" in the shot column. I am not an expert and provide this input based on my reading of several reloading manuals and study.
@mrlongshanks7446
@mrlongshanks7446 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video! One thing to take into consideration is to avoid the use of potentially sparking tools such as the (presumably) steel funnel & steel rule. A plastic funnel would be a better alternative, & either a plastic or preferably wooden rule (or thin piece of wood) as a levelling tool would reduce the chances of getting your fingers burned. Very interesting & informative video though, I very much enjoyed it! 😀
@dmithsmith5880
@dmithsmith5880 7 жыл бұрын
Mr Longshanks Everything he is using is Stainless steel or aluminum, both of those metals will not spark, no worries.
@WaiseHail
@WaiseHail 5 жыл бұрын
Better not to go with plastics. Sometimes they can build up a static charge which can ignite powder
@kirkboswell2575
@kirkboswell2575 3 жыл бұрын
Your primer seating dowel should have a small relief hole in the end to allow for primer clearance. Once in a while the base wad gets compressed and without the hole the dowel is striking the tip of the primer. Otherwise, thumbs up 👍.
@sleeperno1215
@sleeperno1215 4 ай бұрын
Ahh, I had to reread your comment and yes. I use a small hollow pipe so that nothing is resting on the primer. The pipe rests on the area around the primer.
@fredford7642
@fredford7642 Жыл бұрын
I have loaded many cartridge rounds through the years, shotgun loading is new to me. Looking forward to loading for my scatterguns. Thank you for a good video.
@sandymilne224
@sandymilne224 Жыл бұрын
Well done. I have a Damascus style old shotgun and I’m going to start reloading, so this video is informative for me. Thanks
@jdhenry6300
@jdhenry6300 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have an old single shot that's around a hundred years old with two and a half inch chamber. Been itchin to shoot it , but can't find shorter shells. Thanks to you IL trim regular shells down , and load them with black powder. I know pressures are lower than smokeless , so maybe the ole cannon will roar again. Great video.
@jrcostilla9105
@jrcostilla9105 4 жыл бұрын
You may have heard about the cut down rounds for shotguns they are around a inch and a half long and come in every type of round to. without the wadding powder and shot doesn't take up much room. You can buy them and make them so many people buy them because you can put twice the amount of shells in your tube. Anyone that owns a shotgun should look them up there is even flashbangs. I hope i didn't waste our time and list a bunch of crap you already know about now. Either way good luck
@AnandRaj-iu9rr
@AnandRaj-iu9rr 4 жыл бұрын
This fucken stupid eating lot of time unwantedly.
@JuarezDerrick
@JuarezDerrick 3 жыл бұрын
@@jrcostilla9105 they are called "mini shells"
@waraichs40
@waraichs40 2 жыл бұрын
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@nordberserker1591
@nordberserker1591 4 жыл бұрын
I purchased a roll crimping tool and hulls/supplies because of this video. I am trying something similar but with Pyrodex and buckshot. Actual black powder is not the easiest thing to find in my area right now for some reason. I probably should try some #9 shot or something, really cool stuff nonetheless. Either way I can't wait to test them!
@robertfischer380
@robertfischer380 4 жыл бұрын
Instead of a punch I got a 5/8"dowel and put a deck screw into the center, then ground the head off to punch out the caps. It speeds up the process. Don't have to search for the cap with the punch or nail. I put a little tape on the dowel so it just fits. You could use a 3/4" dowel and sand it down to fit as well. Hope this helps someone.
@puddytat54
@puddytat54 3 жыл бұрын
good idea
@jmartin9059
@jmartin9059 6 жыл бұрын
*If you splurge for a roll crimp tool and a Ballistic Products shell length cutter... you could make those more consistent and they would appear to be professionally done. Rubbing or isopropyl alcohol will usually remove the ink labels from shotshells.*
@Droodog127
@Droodog127 3 жыл бұрын
great tip on the alcohol!
@stevebrittain3807
@stevebrittain3807 Жыл бұрын
"matching pink card cutter" Lol. You have a good sense of humor
@user-se3sr1kw2a
@user-se3sr1kw2a 4 ай бұрын
Most funniest part was the pink matching reloading equipment lol 😂😂😂
@unknowuser1843
@unknowuser1843 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, have a 16 gauge Ammo is hard to find in the best of times. Knowing how to reload with simple tools will definitely help mediate that
@francescovito8090
@francescovito8090 2 жыл бұрын
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@krazyinthekootenay712
@krazyinthekootenay712 6 ай бұрын
From a Canadian to obviously another Canadian thanks very informative
@gavingaming123
@gavingaming123 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent information and well explained. I’ll be loading like this for my 16 bore. Thanks for sharing. All the best from Scotland. Garry
@toddcarpenter714
@toddcarpenter714 3 жыл бұрын
You might want to ditch that plastic dipper for the powder and use something brass. Static electricity and black powder do not mix well! It tends to go BOOM! I’ve loaded tons of black powder, and everything I’ve ever read says stay away from plastic measures! Safety is always your first concern.
@MrSanteeclaus
@MrSanteeclaus 6 жыл бұрын
You can get roll crimper very inexpensive. it will roll the edge under and hold your top card down. Well worth the coins.
@dougsimpsonmusic
@dougsimpsonmusic 3 жыл бұрын
I’m stoked to give this a go immediately!! Great video, pleasant voice!
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Doug!
@nesnetram
@nesnetram 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I didn't realize it was so easy. Thanks so much for making this video.
@uarbor70
@uarbor70 Жыл бұрын
I was doing this back when I was a teenager although I had the benefit of a loading machine. I used the plastic wods like you and I would cut off a cup but I would also cut off the base and use that part over the powder. It was a lot of fun but I was not getting good groups compare to my regular reloads. You should invest in a roll crimper that way you could eliminate the step with the glue
@deipweedecuchiekrucher7384
@deipweedecuchiekrucher7384 2 жыл бұрын
Good high quality video, but if you are open to it I have a couple of suggestions. The first suggestion would be to add more safety warnings like reiterating every now and again to make sure the primers are detonated before you try to remove them and reminding people how important it is for weights to be exact and for you to do the proper calculations on powder equivalencies , you know just small things that could have big impacts on people's safety other than that you're doing a great job buddy keep up the good work very interesting stuff here. My grade for this video (which is opinion and for all intent and purpose is 100% meaningless, unless you consider me... some guy you've never met before that you came across on KZbin to have some merit, well then that's a different story LOL) a solid (B+)
@MrIronlynnx
@MrIronlynnx 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the ingenuity and commentary. Outstanding! Thanks for the great video. =D
@barry9413
@barry9413 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent period of instruction Sir.
@TheDave570
@TheDave570 7 жыл бұрын
You might concider using a copper or plastic funnel, due to static electricty!! If that 67 gns flashes you will get burnt !!!!
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 7 жыл бұрын
you might have a point! Thanks for the tip Dave.
@dmithsmith5880
@dmithsmith5880 7 жыл бұрын
TheDave570 stainless steel does not spark
@hazoorbux2109
@hazoorbux2109 5 жыл бұрын
Number do
@RabbitusMaximus
@RabbitusMaximus 4 жыл бұрын
plastic is not recommended per the LEE manual for their scoops, measures, or funnels due to static of the plastic and black powder incompatibility. OK for nitrocellulose based though.
@pierreghazarian6087
@pierreghazarian6087 4 жыл бұрын
No plastic only very conductive metals.
@And-sn7nt
@And-sn7nt 4 жыл бұрын
My dad does the exact same thing, great video
@SilntObsvr
@SilntObsvr Жыл бұрын
A large *pin punch* would be better than your *drift punch.* It's cylindrical, so it won't expand the primer pocket if you hit it a little too hard on the last bump; also, it's got a little bump in the center that will hold the punch aligned with the primer's flash hole. Most likely a 3/16 punch would do the job. Also, after you trim the crimp, your shells are 2 1/2, since the measurement is of the uncrimped hull. Cut off 1/4 inch, and you've converted a 2 3/4 into a 2 1/2 (but that's correct size to feed in a 2 3/4 action when not crimped as your reloads are). For old fashioned non-plastic wads, you'd load an overpowder nitro card, usually 0.125" thick and a snug fit in the shell (or barrel, for a muzzleloader), push that down flat on the powder, then a thickness of fiber cushion wad sufficient to give the column height you want (more critical if you're star crimping than for uncrimped glued-in or roll crimped shells with over shot cards), then shot and either a fold crimp (like most modern factory shells), over shot card plus roll crimp, or a glued-in over shot card like those you make here (which, as you note, don't require any shotgun-specific tools).
@davidgardner863
@davidgardner863 4 ай бұрын
Using a hammer to seat the primer would make me a bit nervous. If you have a drill press you can use that to press in the primer and compact the powder.
@weitzfc1
@weitzfc1 6 жыл бұрын
I would advise using an antique shot/powder measure . they measure in dram/ounce .
@jamescooper2618
@jamescooper2618 7 жыл бұрын
This is a great video! Thanks for making it for us!
@vijayshankar5867
@vijayshankar5867 4 жыл бұрын
James Cooper to
@Mascotal
@Mascotal 6 жыл бұрын
You want to be careful when tapping in your new primer like that. If the primer goes off, your wooden dowel might become a projectile. Great video though, lots of good stuff here.
@taylorharbin3948
@taylorharbin3948 Ай бұрын
Good grief. This is so simple even I can do it…and will! Pyrodex is much cheaper than smokeless powder and I’m doing a lot of shotgun hunting these days. Thanks for the video!
@GunsOfTheWest
@GunsOfTheWest 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I'm currently working on a video on this very topic. I'm using new shells with unfired primers still in them, but I like your method of repriming the spent shells.
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I can't take credit for the de-priming and priming method though, I learned that from Mike Beliveau's channel (Duelist1954).
@GunsOfTheWest
@GunsOfTheWest 7 жыл бұрын
MrTudenom, that guy's great!
@themischeifguide
@themischeifguide 7 жыл бұрын
The stamp is the best part
@rabahmoha6850
@rabahmoha6850 4 жыл бұрын
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@WildDigger
@WildDigger 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Getting a old shotgun soon to play with.
@josephsfields
@josephsfields 4 жыл бұрын
How about now ?----> 1,112,557 views• You do a really good job on many aspects of the video. You keep it moving with the explanation and demonstration. You follow procedure and add a little bit of technique. I was glad you went into it without a bunch of common sense safety talk about not attempting to do it by candle light, while smoking, or while tending to several small children. New sub here and now i'm going to check out your black powder shotgun video.
@Semyon_Semyonych
@Semyon_Semyonych 4 жыл бұрын
For a load bigger than a light one, you'll need a cusion wad -- either felt, fiber or plastic. So, throwing away the cusion part of that conteiner was not a good idea...
@billfrederickfrederick2791
@billfrederickfrederick2791 4 жыл бұрын
It's cushion
@Semyon_Semyonych
@Semyon_Semyonych 4 жыл бұрын
@@billfrederickfrederick2791 Cushion, yes. Thanks for the correcrtion.
@blueduck9409
@blueduck9409 3 жыл бұрын
Its dangerous using an electric scale and ferrous funnels. The reason being is black powder is highly volatile, and being explosive you dont want to take any unnecessary risks that might be unfortunate.
@TheWalkWithAl
@TheWalkWithAl 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video enjoyed it and learn something
@saltcreekammo
@saltcreekammo 4 жыл бұрын
An antique or replica roll crimping tool is like $20... Way less expensive than glue in the long run.
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, one of those tools or a spin type that goes into a drill chuck would be an all around a better option.
@MrSanteeclaus
@MrSanteeclaus 6 жыл бұрын
Never had a issue with fiber wads shooting a hole thru load
@claytonbartels130
@claytonbartels130 6 жыл бұрын
This makes Mr want to reload. That was so simple
@Semyon_Semyonych
@Semyon_Semyonych 4 жыл бұрын
Reloading the BP shotgun shells is very simple. As you can see from this video, no special equipment is needed.
@paramitadey660
@paramitadey660 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind reply
@nasiruddinsharif8541
@nasiruddinsharif8541 3 жыл бұрын
folse, vocus, very bad video. time pass, nesty video.
@v_Shami
@v_Shami 2 жыл бұрын
wonderful video. something I definitely wanna try, I was planning to also try *producing* my own powder but that seems kinda sketchy as I'm not a chemist so I'll probably just find some
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 2 жыл бұрын
That would be an interesting project, though I have seen quite a few videos where they say things like "make in small batches so you don't blow your face off if things go wrong". That scares me a bit, I'd like to keep my face the way it is, I'm rather fond of it seeing that I've had it my whole life. Also, it's illegal to make your own black powder in Canada, so there's that getting in the way as well.
@v_Shami
@v_Shami 2 жыл бұрын
thankfully I live in the US, and will soon be on a larger property than I am now so i won't draw concern by lighting random powders on fire in the yard. should probably make small batches like you said until I can get something consistent before I even think of loading shells with it
@weitzfc1
@weitzfc1 7 жыл бұрын
get a antique roll crimper , then use glue . they work on paper or plastic hulls.
@marilyngist3152
@marilyngist3152 7 жыл бұрын
weitzfc1 nailed it!
@c3pfett
@c3pfett 6 жыл бұрын
I second that. But I use water glass instead of glue. Notice a better pattern with roll instead of star crimp
@Shootemfulloholes
@Shootemfulloholes 4 жыл бұрын
awesome vid really made things simple!!! now i can reload for my sweet "ELSIE" with damascus barrels but with the correct load ofcourse!!
@hichemakram75
@hichemakram75 4 жыл бұрын
احلف وسوطي
@GearTiger007
@GearTiger007 4 жыл бұрын
nice video, very detail and clear,hope see more your video about hunting and gun
@independentthinker8930
@independentthinker8930 3 жыл бұрын
23/4 is measured after crimp unfolds, not 2³/4 when you cut the fold off
@vicvicious13
@vicvicious13 8 жыл бұрын
A hand roll crimper would help. Wouldn't need glue and shells would load better.
@mikebagnallshooting9818
@mikebagnallshooting9818 5 жыл бұрын
Your brilliant dude keep up the awsome work.
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks an bunch!
@willieboy8798
@willieboy8798 5 жыл бұрын
gun control advocate .....A calm, cool, steady hand in the appropriete direction! thanks for the tutorial I like your method better... I made one with a slug I got a set shot checking fence, deer was ten yards totally off guard crawled down the fence to a hole in the brush. slug went into heart cavity, blew guts every where, dropped her where she stood...good eating skinned it right there...coyotes smelled the blood and came for a visit ...got a little too brave black powdered both in the same shot..that was a home made donut pattern ...watered elmers glue number 4 in the middle of bird shot. I call it "shaped charge" it tore the asses of both coyotes. good video TY
@miamislice3280
@miamislice3280 2 жыл бұрын
Poor puppy, lol.
@ronaldlippert253
@ronaldlippert253 7 жыл бұрын
I WOULD LIKE TOO MENTION IF YOU USE A METAL FUNNEL IT WILL BUILD UP A STATIC CHARGE AFTER AWHILE AND ALL IT TAKES IS ONE LITTLE SPARK TO SET OFF YOUR POWDER CHARGE, I WOULD RECOMMEND A PAPER FUNNEL
@nicerperson1
@nicerperson1 7 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought, cheapo plastic dish and funnels would be far safer.
@dmithsmith5880
@dmithsmith5880 7 жыл бұрын
ronald lippert That funnel he is using is Stainless, Stainless steel is highly unlikely to build up static, Plastic funnels would be more likely to build static. Even if it did, one would be very hard pressed to get a static charge to ignite 2F or 3F granulated powder. I suppose 4F would be a little easier for static to ignite but even then it would be extremely unlikely, static typically will only ignite micron sized black powder particles. Also stainless steel will not spark from striking or friction, nor will aluminum, only carbon steel or Iron will do that. Paper is nice though 👍
@leeknivek
@leeknivek 6 жыл бұрын
it takes far more spark than that of a static charge to ignite black powder.
@terrylick5908
@terrylick5908 6 жыл бұрын
+dmith smith spot on👍
@leodapat9139
@leodapat9139 Жыл бұрын
Watching and listening from pinas garita San Enrique iloilo.
@ValMartinIreland
@ValMartinIreland Ай бұрын
The over shot card will interfere with the shot pattern causing blown patterns.
@neafranklin7905
@neafranklin7905 6 ай бұрын
Here I am listening intently... Then I here Overweighty.... Then I'm like OMG a few British Columbian lol
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 6 ай бұрын
It’s a secret code only BC’ers understand LOL
@neafranklin7905
@neafranklin7905 6 ай бұрын
@@MrTudenom appreciate the info ya provided though... I'm in process of doing 410 brass reloads and looking into black powder
@505shango
@505shango 6 жыл бұрын
I won't be reloading shotgun shells like this ever but very interesting vid lol
@Columbariusify
@Columbariusify 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent! It's good to be American!
@jamesranger6283
@jamesranger6283 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. I am debating a purchase of an older double 12 proofed for smokeless. A British hammer gun is my goal but I can settle for a nice Belgian.
@Zurgo-fl1kx
@Zurgo-fl1kx 4 жыл бұрын
Only thing I would add is a roll crimper.
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 4 жыл бұрын
A roll crimper is definitely a better way to go.
@bkipad
@bkipad 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice, cheap and easy, thanks
@naveedakramkhan751
@naveedakramkhan751 3 жыл бұрын
sir when you wasing the premar in the shell it is very dangerous in pakistan we have made these tools for the filling of the 12 gage shell one thing i will show you for the pramar you can make a hole in the wooden stick in the middle then you can easily wis the pramer the part of the shell which is for brust
@allenbrian72
@allenbrian72 7 ай бұрын
You can use a roll crimp or even a crimp starter.
@rocknraptor3195
@rocknraptor3195 4 жыл бұрын
I do my shells the same way!!.I just need a 3/4 hole punch like you got.. great minds think a like 😄.. good video, thanks!
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 4 жыл бұрын
You can order some good quality punches from Track of the Wolf. I love that place, it has all the goodies!
@rocknraptor3195
@rocknraptor3195 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrTudenom thanks 👍
@gopalgopu6280
@gopalgopu6280 4 жыл бұрын
Yoo matching colors of tools is imp to me too .
@khalidmahmood6057
@khalidmahmood6057 5 жыл бұрын
Very good refilling
@bruceevans56
@bruceevans56 4 жыл бұрын
Plastic wads are forbidden at my club.
@fullstrutn
@fullstrutn 8 жыл бұрын
I load around 70 grains in my plastic shells with a fiber waxed wad for my old NR. Davis and sons double they pattern really well and I hunt with it. Difference being I use a loader and crimp them ,I like the trimmed case look so I went to paper hulls can THESE be reloaded again does the shot itself ''clean'' out the glue
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 8 жыл бұрын
I've never reloaded paper shotgun shells myself, but from what I understand they were standard at one time and people reloaded them. I expect the loading procedure is the same, but it would be best to go to a shotgun reloading message board and see if you can get some tips from an old pro. He might save you some grief! The glue is almost always ejected out with the shot but every once and a while I'll have a small amount left on the inside of the shotshell after firing. I soak the fired shells in soapy water after a shoot to stop black powder corrosion, the glue peels off easily after soaking for a few hours. This won't work well with paper hulls obviously, but you should be able to scrape any remaining glue off.
@fullstrutn
@fullstrutn 8 жыл бұрын
I just loaded up a box of paper shells yesterday and trimmed the hulls with an old trimmer worked out great and look good too
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 8 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@SUSHILKUMAR-tz3vg
@SUSHILKUMAR-tz3vg 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done
@VladimirVladimir-tl3gy
@VladimirVladimir-tl3gy 4 жыл бұрын
if you dont wont glue then you can use smelthing wax from a torch or so then you shell are litle bit more water proof !
@imtopher61
@imtopher61 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thank You. I'll be making these for a 12 ga. cannon. ( NO Shot )
@zabdag3963
@zabdag3963 2 жыл бұрын
I like the way you show in here, but I can’t find any thing like that any were else.
@ibrahiminventor6400
@ibrahiminventor6400 4 жыл бұрын
Like this is a good invention
@binandaofficial8909
@binandaofficial8909 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice works
@amirfallah7484
@amirfallah7484 Жыл бұрын
Nice.. nice 👍👍👍...i am cauntry iran
@shadetreemech290
@shadetreemech290 9 ай бұрын
A roll crimp would have been nice. But, the tool would have been expensive.
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 8 жыл бұрын
After that all you need is a second SA revolver and you'll be set for Cowboy Action Shooting 😊
@bunkstagner298
@bunkstagner298 7 жыл бұрын
4 c/c volume of FFg. a 1/8" card over powder wad, a 1/2" fiber wad, 4 c/c volume of shot, and over shot wad then give the whole shebang a roll crimp and done. Rifenhauser hulls work better because they are thinner and easier to cut and cheap. you usually only shoot them once because black powder cooks the shell body. How did you turn the roll?
@jonh4265
@jonh4265 6 жыл бұрын
67 grains? WOW normal smokeless Shotgun Powder is anywhere from 20 to 33 grains.
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's amazing how much more efficient smokeless powder is over black powder. It must have been an amazing development in firearms tech.
@jonh4265
@jonh4265 6 жыл бұрын
I even heard something like 1 ounce Powder and 1 Ounce of shot. That's crazy
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 6 жыл бұрын
Sound like you're on the right track! If you haven't already done so I'd recommend checking out Mike Beliveau's (sp?) channel for more info on black powder related topics. He's the man when it comes to this sort of stuff: kzbin.info
@daveblaedow8419
@daveblaedow8419 4 жыл бұрын
Instead of using the cardboard card on top of the black powder. Why don't you just use the plastic wad? Save your cardboard cards for the top.
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 4 жыл бұрын
You have a point there. I might have been led astray by faulty information on plastic wads. There's this theory that black powder is too hot and will make the wad leave residue in the bore, but I have serious doubts about that now.
@osok5492
@osok5492 4 жыл бұрын
Great 👍 You should have a pink scale
@jacobadair4354
@jacobadair4354 7 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried reloading a shell that previously been reloaded in this method? In other terms have you ever reloaded a shell that's has been already reloaded
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 7 жыл бұрын
Yup, some of my shells have been reloaded and fired a few times. I have a really hard look at them before reloading them a third time and throw out any that look suspect. I don't bother re using them after the third reloading.
@stephenanderle5422
@stephenanderle5422 3 жыл бұрын
Black powder makes a great salt load!
@paramitadey660
@paramitadey660 7 жыл бұрын
In your country every thing is available, especially primer If I place an order for primer,will it be possible for me to obtain them by parcel
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 7 жыл бұрын
That's true. Most reloading components can be purchased and shipped in Canada as long as you use a courier and not Canada Post for explosive materials. You have to do your homework though and make arrangements ahead of time with the seller and the courier. Some couriers require MSDS sheets to be placed on the package (you'll have to arrange this with the seller), some require someone to sign off on delivery, and most charge extra fees for dangerous materials. Canpar seems to be a favorite for shipping these sorts of things, but you have to make sure they have a depot in your town (most small towns don't). If they can't catch you at home them they will return the shipment to the seller.
@legendhammonds4007
@legendhammonds4007 10 ай бұрын
Have u ever used wax to substitute the glues
@josephnorcalusa1710
@josephnorcalusa1710 5 жыл бұрын
Helpful information thank you for sharing..
@daudbendaud8608
@daudbendaud8608 3 жыл бұрын
I love you because you love 12g
@chaysokhieng
@chaysokhieng 3 жыл бұрын
Good
@AverageReviewsYT
@AverageReviewsYT 5 жыл бұрын
U sure do love your metal reloading equipment lol.. It's all cool till your friend static electricity comes by for a visit and he fucks your shit up lol it's probably just me that's a little iffy about metal... Given I'm not a reloader so I'm sure you know more than me and are cautious in all the right ways
@robertrandin9568
@robertrandin9568 4 жыл бұрын
I have an old double barrel side-by-side Henry 12 gauge shotgun and it for black powder this was very helpful but my question is if you have this shotgun at home for protection and you hardly go to the range and shoot it how long with these shells last in your home or how long can you keep them without shooting and to be dependable.
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 4 жыл бұрын
I have some shells that have fired no problems up to 12 months or more after loading, but I live in a relatively dry environment. I suppose moisture would be the biggest threat to reliability since the shells are not well sealed. If you live in a coastal or tropical environment with high humidity then it might be something to worry about. But if they're stored in a dry space then you should be good for years.
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 6 жыл бұрын
I can't believe this video has hit 200,000 views.
@eianselker
@eianselker 4 жыл бұрын
well now its 1 million views. congrats
@HunterParkNZ
@HunterParkNZ 4 жыл бұрын
Its 1 million now lol
@RabbitusMaximus
@RabbitusMaximus 4 жыл бұрын
Pink: Cos a man's powder measure and his wad punch should match.
@fieldstonefabrication4414
@fieldstonefabrication4414 5 жыл бұрын
Browning auto 5 is the only semi shotgun I know designed for black powder. Check out my quick video for an example. Nice to see another simple black powder handloading video. Keep it up
@JohnnyBallou
@JohnnyBallou 2 жыл бұрын
Also, Remington Model 11 Shotgun will do percussion powder, and may have been used in its earlier days. I just wash the barrel!
@donboehner6005
@donboehner6005 7 жыл бұрын
could you do a follow up video with a shot on paper pattern? I think your load would throw an even pattern. I've seen some black powder loads on youtube that would throw donut shaped patterns, at best. Thanks for the vid, nice job.
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 7 жыл бұрын
Can do. I should be able to hit the range this weekend and I'll post the results.
@nicerperson1
@nicerperson1 7 жыл бұрын
Does this work if you have a lavender-blue shot shell and punch? *_Seriously though, thanks for the video,_* you make it look very easy. Most clay shoots around me are over farmland, they only allow fibre wads to prevent littering. Would a home made cardboard wad / cup work? and have you tried making any?
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 7 жыл бұрын
I've never tried myself, but I've seen a video where a guy punches out cardboard wads from a banana box using a 3/4" gasket punch. The box is a bit waxy and is made of heavier than standard material, so I expect it works pretty well. It's probably better to go with a traditional fiber wad, but if your shoot is next week then it might be an option.
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 7 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah....lavender blue is perfectly acceptable, as long as it isn't mint green. Mint green is for scallywags, delinquents, and reprobates.
@sunardi9475
@sunardi9475 5 жыл бұрын
Gunung kawi
@DrAgan_tortojed
@DrAgan_tortojed 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be that sure when it comes to a phase of "crunching" the black powder, during the pressing it against the bottom (with this wooden stick, at 10:27) - black powder (unlike the smokeless) is VERY sensitive to friction, so it might explode when the grains grind with each other. The piece of cloth/felt would have been safer than a cardboard, to press the powder.
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 4 жыл бұрын
You're right, it's likely not that important to compress the black powder and you can probably skip that step without too much harm. However, black powder is not that sensitive. Can you provide a documented example where friction caused by compression has caused a premature detonation? Reloaders and black powder shooters compress powder (with much more compression that I'm demonstrating) many thousands of times a day. You could count that to possibly many billions of examples of compressing powder over the centuries without premature detonation. If black powder was that sensitive, all black powder shooters would be able to recount many personal examples. Yet, I have never met one or experienced it myself, ever. There might be some evidence of premature detonation when it comes to anvil launching, but I expect it's much more likely that sparks created by the placement of one anvil on top of another was the culprit. Or possibly dangerous handling practices, like smoking while handling powder.
@oldguyzcustomsmetalshop7991
@oldguyzcustomsmetalshop7991 4 жыл бұрын
Blasting black can be pressure sensitive, it's made that way, but for firearms not so much.
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