MSF IS IN TROUBLE - MARVEL Mystic Mayhem - MMM

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[@hanzohasashi4534]

Meanwhile Scopley is doing the same level cap increase + Dark Dimension chase cycle for the 8th time.

[@chrisgossett2592]

Wonder why there haven't been any ads for this yet bc this is the first I'm even hearing of this game

[@Seruphin]

There have been trailers, probably no ads since the games not out yet.

[@chrisgossett2592]

@Seruphin so then how do people find out about the beta if there aren't any ads?

[@fedord01]

​@@chrisgossett2592being in Canada it simply popped up as a recommendation for me on my google play store.

[@yoelregalado6919]

I actually love this game. It doesn’t even take too much of your time. Plus it has ACTUAL challenging content. You can’t auto everything and the progression from level to level is so easy to follow. Ima drop MSF for this. I already had 1 foot out the door

[@braedenmay3698]

Stopped playing the game after Battleworld came out, it was my final straw. Life has been so much better since then, the game is nothing what it was.

[@kpp8349]

Looks like raid marvel legends to me. The thing is, it could actually effect msf if they get more than half a million players in the first month. Scopley freaked out when zzz came out and started making more in a month than msf makes in a year

[@ZeonEons]

@@kpp8349 It won't have any affect as they are entirely different genres as is the new marvel game, marvel rivals.

[@simonchai3040]

Reminds me of that mortal kombat mobile game that shut down. Similar gameplay

[@StrikePlay21]

msf characters are near to movies or comics accuracy but here all characters look a lot different. Due to mystic changes in them.More like an Midnight sons game for PC

[@brianbode12]

I'm totally leaving MSF when MMM is out

[@arcanine787]

Good

[@Chrispy42086]

Why wait, leave now ✌️

[@ZeonEons]

You should see the pvp.... 💀

[@Chrispy42086]

@@ZeonEons I've seen enough of the gameplay to know it's gonna suck.. People think Spiders Society's animations are long, it's literally like watching a mini movie every time somebody attacks in MMM 💯🤣

[@nicolasdrapeau9404]

I did it. First time not login in in a week in MSF for almost 2 years.

[@dennisburke4509]

Go back over the last 7 years and try to play all the games that were supposed to take MSF place and try to play them now. I bet you wont be able too. You wanna know why? Because they dont exist anymore. This has been going on for years. Yeah this game is going into soft launch and its great and when it goes global MSF will be gone. A few months later new game is shut down and/or never made it to global launch.

[@ArtIsLifeninty]

Hey, if it challenges competition between MSF and this, the consumer wins.

[@ArtIsLifeninty]

It’s an RTS.

[@ricko5364]

It reallllllllly isn't taking over from MSF. Played alpha and didn't stick around till the end. Nothing wrong with the game as such, just a completely different genre.

[@Ninja.Smacks]

I hope this game succeeds so bad. Because I want to play a Marvel game but I don't want to play MSF anymore

[@rickeyhernandez2094]

Marvel Rivals is what you should be playing great game.

[@lotusinn3]

Marvel Rivals exists, but I get ya. So over MSF.

[@MarudaMarvel]

Im playing like 4 days now - MMM is great

[@brannyxx]

I’m on this boat too ……

[@brannyxx]

@@rickeyhernandez2094totally not the same. Rivals is. A shooter and requires a pretty good PC….. this is a characters colllector game which requires zero skills.

[@mrstephen43084]

Msf will be fine. They had one of the worst 7 months of any mobile game. Much of that was due to poor decisions (probably by the money ppl), and the dev team missed a hard deadline to have Battleworld ready and be a good game mode. While there have been dire consequences for those things, they are all fixable. The largest irony, which no one talks about and/or realizes, is that many of the complaints against msf are that the game is too player friendly (content isn’t hard enough, progression systems aren’t complicated enough, the devs backtracking when players complain about decisions like shrinking war to 8 teams, too many cookie cutter teams, especially for raids, etc.).

[@keithkeith293]

That's the ultra-krakens led by FakesFurry doing that. They have no concept in how game demographics work. You need all levels of players for a game to be successful. Spenders ensure that the devs and their families are able to eat every night, while f2p help the games visibility in the play store by logging in multiple times and staying in longer for the login and screen time metrics. The secret server Krakens(it does exist; I've had multiple confirmations about it from server or former server people) don't have the capacity to understand that. They think that their money is everything to this game. And this is why some of the top alliances lose wars to lower level alliances. They have to learn how to make their 3y3r Jean Grey work against a maxed out team. And they succeed. I personally feel that as far as player friendliness goes, the game is fine, though leaning more towards the spending side of things. It just needs to stay in that middle ground. And fix all the damn bugs, ffs.

[@5j1kfamilyYouTube]

I’m looking forward to this game, wow your channel has grown so much congratulations I hope you cover this game, I’m glad I’m still subscribed!!!!

[@animan8565]

This looks like it's not for me.

[@reginaldbrown1073]

This game plays exactly like dragonheir.

[@5roguesaprincess987]

That's what I was thinking. And that had the D&D License and still shutdown in the US

[@Rix227]

I really enjoy the team building in msf and I always look forward to new characters and reworks. This doesn’t seem like it will have that aspect as much, but I’ll definitely still give it a go since I love Marvel.

[@GTRfreak88]

Just recently, another scopeley game got shut down due to a lack of ideas and games mode and minimal progress the same coming to MSF becareful spenders msf is going to that direction save your money

[@drims675]

So the marvel strike force killer is another marvel game ? Not a big fan of the artistic direction though. Wait & see

[@ChrisByram]

Combat is a lot like dragon heir it seems

[@AstroNerdBoy]

Sounds kinda similar to Princess Connect! Re:Dive, though that game is auto, but you have to time your ultimates to gain maximum effect with certain other characters.

[@gabormervo6650]

So AFK Journey with Marvel Characters and no over world?

[@KylerClarke-m9b]

Yeah not for me. I like turn based

[@Chrispy42086]

Ass!!! Games like this always die 💯...

[@Bluuedream]

Well Netease other game Marvel Rivals is wildly addicting and fair, definitely going to give this game a try!

[@Met3438]

Reminds me of AFK Journey, still watching the video so you may have already mentioned it.

[@wahoo2376]

100%

[@Battenzione]

Looks a lot like Disney Mirrorverse

[@craycrayirl9492]

Interesting. I’ll give it a spin if it ever drops globally.

[@fedord01]

It certainly looks and feels high quality and very polished. Though it being Netease, I fully expect it to have some of the worst, most egregious whale focused monetization possible. Aka, EOS within 12-18 months as it alienates all the f2p and light spenders to cater to the whales.

[@Daemonik]

Looks good for the sort of game it is, unfortunately that type of game isn't my bag for cellphone play. Best of luck to it.

[@huoron4479]

They need to be careful with there art direction. Looks to close to that failed marvel game.

[@LouizTheLeo]

msf cc are trying really hard to hype this game up, but it will probably be dead in a year, while msf will still be around.

[@Mew2playz]

Don't think this game will make it

[@ill619__]

Same devs as Marvel Rivals.. hottest game out now

[@ZeonEons]

It will probably do fine being in the semi idle genre. It's mainly competing in that idle market with games like Afk arena

[@wleung3062]

Good news: Same company as Marvel Rivals. Bad news (for me): It is a company based in China.

[@910homies]

Why bad?

[@reavers9852]

The one concern i have with MSF is when we will get more gold and training mat

[@Floyd1319]

Never. People have been asking for that since the game came out. When they do increase gold in game they just raise the level cap which costs exponentially more gold than the tiny increase in gold that they gave you.

[@EdwardPerez-x1g]

The main problem with MSF is there’s nothing to do. You login, sim your dailies and buy in the store. The only gameplay is War and Crucible which both have limited gameplay (attacks). They need to make something like a tower a monthly occurrence so we have something to play and a reason to get on and play.

[@braedenmay3698]

It’s a bad game I’d recommend you just stop playing especially if you spend money, stop immediately

[@EdwardPerez-x1g]

@ Not a bad game just bad dev, roadmap, game modes lol. The game has a lot of potential but the devs hate us.

[@trosway]

Zero interest

[@Wolveri435]

This is similar to what Mortal Kombat onslaught gameplay was. The only thing MSF has that help keep it alive is the ip there so many more polish games with the same gameplay. gears, mods and etc. I miss Marvel avenger alliance it was more solid compared to this marvel mobile games.

[@joshuahamilton2245]

i have a prediction it will fail like marvel future revolution did because the krakens destroyed it it will happen in this game as well.

[@wahoo2376]

Netmarble destroyed it, not the krakens. Coulda been a great one w those graphics.

[@larskoenig6021]

so its the invincible game with marvel ip. gonna try it out^^

[@morgankeeble3208]

Tbh I'm loving msf, played it years and years ago when first came out and started up again few months ago currently at lvl 90 working on apocalypse unlock for general time frame of my progress but can understand y ppl dislike it from what I've seen of ppl say however even though I'm enjoying very annoyed that this mystic mayhem isn't compatible with my advice lol, got email for invite to early access too rlly annoying

[@fedord01]

Not a fan of only having 3 units in a team at all. This seems like a huge failure in design to me. I've yet to play an auto battler with less than 4 heroes in a team. 5 is ideal. But 3 just seems stupid as you can't possibly cover every class archetype when trying to make teams. Don't think this game will last long tbh with such handicapped team building options.

[@nicolasdrapeau9404]

No progress will be save ? So ill go back to lvl 1 at lauch ? :O

[@ZeonEons]

@@nicolasdrapeau9404 Yes. It's a full data wipe. It's also a gacha game. Unlike MsF you are not guaranteed the characters Shock horror i know

[@marzix427]

I like a lot of MSF, but this looks amazing. I just don't have the time to play 2 phone games. I prefer PC games and its annoying when I start doing like a DD run or trying to do my war attacks or like Shadow King trials and have to "AFK" in the game that I really want to play to play MSF. lol But I like having a game to play at work or other places or when I am watching a movie or show I do not 100% have to be watching it.

[@tuomaslassila163]

Nah MSF is doing fine.

[@thatboymeak]

This game is going to go horrible, but because it’s marvel and mobile, it’ll still be a success somehow

[@therooster8697]

It sounds silly but I don't have the emotional investment worth of fucks to start giving to another game. I'm either sticking with MSF or getting on with my life.

[@jtmitch88]

Game looks nice and shiny. Love the tactical idea.

[@mrfuzz2k]

Reminds me of AFK Journey play style

[@Scrappy_Moo]

Looks good.

[@zoltankecskemeti1444]

This is so similar to the walking dead game. Same moving and same strategy involved.

[@val_hallen]

Not excited. Thought that recently failed MK auto-battler would give them a hint. And in weird anime style? Uggh.

[@jacobruff5703]

Marvel Rivals kicks ass

[@kristoff7049]

Looking good at this point!

[@Nemeschy1981]

Damn. Can't even create a character in this games beta already. All filled up i guess. It keeps erroring

[@DavidDodge92]

Is it on mobile??

[@EmpireSlaveofMind8131]

Msf isnt in trouble. The level cap is increasing. That means players who are currently locked at level 100 will gain xp which means level up rewards. This means alliances will get overall tcp boosts. It also means more to work towards for players. There are TONS of characters releasing in MSF, nobody ever told you that you had to have these characters on day one or week one of release, they will still be there for you to gain. L4s are limited unless you get a pass or bundle so you have to be smart and source training orbs where you can. Msf isnt going anywhere any time soon but its great we have more marvel content

[@giorgikiskeize]

For me pre-orders do not work because my phone does not support😅

[@ivan-vk7us]

It's in the UK now

[@ColHozeh]

Looks interesting... + chinese people believe in 10 bucks for 1 million people vs western 100 bucks for 100k people who can afford.. as seen in rivals. However, these auto battler type games.... seem to struggle. Dc has one, ever heard of it? No.. guess why lol. Just doesnt seem to beat directr engagement Hopefully it goes well.. need a fresh game in the space. We'll see.

[@AJolls]

strike force can kick rocks

[@deadmanrashaun]

Peace, Mobile. I just pre-registered. ✌🏾

[@lionfan96]

looks cool.

[@kilgore9859]

Ready to switch to this game.

[@gorgan4714]

It's sad the hate the MSF gets. This game (the one he is trying to get on their paid content creator list) may very well be good but it will do very little to the vast majority of MSF player base, it's a very different core game besides the marvel IP. The sad part is the biggest haters of MSF are the KZbinrs who have played it the longest, and no matter what the game does they will always complain because it gets clicks. Make hard content? They hate it, make easy content for more people to be able to participate? they hate it, increase the lvl cap? they hate it, pull down a game mode that is broken that people are complaining about so they can fix it? they hate it, Give free currency for that game mode while it's down? they hate that, release new characters? they aren't good enough, do reworks on old characters? who cares they say. Nothing LITERALLY nothing they do will make the biggest haters on MSF happy except the game shutting down.

[@sqram76]

Well said

[@jasonrice6966]

Yes has nothing to do with endless bugs and broken events weekly. Yup just haters that's all. I mean giving a company credit for pulling a broken mode tells you where you stand.

[@LancerX916]

MSF is hemorrhaging players. It's not the KZbinrs it's the game that is driving them away. My alliance, we have lost 5 players to retirement in the last 2 weeks.

[@kbsutton3]

GTFOH. It’s a billion dollar game and it doesn’t fix persistent bugs. The game has more bugs than any I’ve ever played. If people want to rag on it, they have every right to. They want the game to be better. For a game that’s made so much off its players, it should be so much better.

[@jboogi90]

So what about the broken game mode battle world. People invested in astral just for them to take that down and move on. Leaving People with a useless team and wasted time. Battle world wasn't even fun.

[@jaybirdmoviereview1823]

I quit msf just here to support and watch.

[@tatsuyakamikawa4744]

This Chinese company made several Marvel Games: Marvel Duel, Marvel Super War and recently Marvel Rivals.

[@miltonmilton5695]

The writing was on the wall for MSF at least 6-7 years ago. I personally stopped playing 5 years ago and I started practically since MSF launched. Not only was Scopely dropping the ball on nearly every aspect of the gameplay and market end of things, the community became more insufferable too. My particular Global Chat became inundated with people bringing in their politics and social propaganda; smug and insufferable Redditor-types. After I put MSF behind me, I started on WH40K Tacticus, which I enjoyed for about 2 years or so, but the horrid pull rates for new characters wore on my patience and I dropped that game too. Don't know if I'll try this Mystic Mayhem game. I'll follow its progress, but I do hope it brings MSF to its knees. Their devs, especially their bean counters, need to be humbled in a bad way. Still enjoy your content even though I don't play MSF anymore. Hail the 'Destroyer of Words'!

[@kamikazu4392]

Didnt MSF also died last time another game came out? Oh wait, the other game died tho.

[@MatthewSmith-kb2bu]

The gameplay looks boring AF to me personally

[@josephgallagher945]

Msf is becoming a boring, repetitive, $$ grab. Plain & simple. Chaotic character releases with no direction.

[@LuckyCharms2255]

Liking it so far

[@AlanJ1993]

this game seems to have higher requirements tho, most people cant probably play the game at all. Also that is probably my least favorite Hulk design ever, its like its not even Hulk.

[@Eulogy_of_the_End]

Heeeeeellllll Yeahhhhh. Hopefully this game goes hard and we can leave MSF behind.

[@LancerX916]

Is there a PC client for this game? If not, I am out. Tired of using emulators.

[@kevinc9065]

Bye msf?

[@ill619__]

A mobile Marvel Rivals? Same devs 🔥

[@Chrispy42086]

Not even close, games completely 100% different.. Only thing In common is the company & that's it💯.. Every game like what MMM is looking like it's gonna be always dies 🤣🤣

[@TheTipsyDoom]

Crazy how this game has more meaningful content to do in the Closed Beta than MSF in 7 years of updates and money grabbing offers... I'm not seeing a huge marketing tactic or even coverage around Mystic Mayhem, but that can change at any moment... I guess we'll see if this impacts MSF the same way as Rivals impacted Overwatch and even COD... 🤣

[@ZeonEons]

@@TheTipsyDoom The content isn't as varied and it's not all meaningful. That's just not how it is. 90% is auto run. The pvp is terrible. It won't impact Msf since it's two different genres. It is competing with games like AFK arena etc

[@TheTipsyDoom]

@ZeonEons We can't really draw any conclusions for now. The game will change a lot. The PvP doesn't really matter to me in a Gacha game, and for the PvE content that I'm playing in this beta, not everything is auto... There's some challenging stages in the game. I know it's not the same as MSF, but it's a breath of fresh air and it's the same IP, so if they respect their community more than Scopely, a lot of people is going to jump ship. It is what it is. 🤷‍♂️

[@ZeonEons]

@@TheTipsyDoom I get what you are saying but people won't jump ship for this. It's not a turn based game. It's a semi idle with some engagement. That's a draw back for most turn based players. The pvp does need to be paramount. That's how gacha games draw the whales and krakens to keep the game running. Their is system is fully auto pvp battles. This game is competing with Afk arena, dragons lair etc. Two marvel titles that came before had the same arguements. The irony is that they died before launch or just after launch with the same arguements made I play another turn based game called Journey renewed and has tons of features.

[@TheTipsyDoom]

@@ZeonEons I can see the AFK influence, but from what I've seen, there's no actual AFK rewards in the game. (Unless i didn't unlock that yet, which I don't think it's the case) Maybe you're right about the Gacha being more PvP focused, but look at Genshin, Dokkan and Star-Rail for example... Some of the top grossing games in the mobile gaming industry. Of course it's not going to be everyones cuppa tea, but it looks promising if they change it a bit and take in feedback. 🙂

[@ZeonEons]

@@TheTipsyDoom Afk and mayhem have idle functions. As well as other idle games. Idle collections, idle combat (full auto or semi auto) The game will probably do well for what it is but i doubt people are going to step away from their idle gacha game to play this mainly Those that play afk arena will remain playing that as mayhem isn't offering anything new in that market. The marvel ip doesn't matter to people who are aren't huge fans of it. That's why other games top the lists. It's the genre that matters. Another example is Marvel Rivals. It's a pvp shooter. People want another apex or fortnite game but with marvel It's competing with that genre

[@jwright9659]

I’m playing the beta and while it’s a cool game that I’m sure I’ll download and play, I’m still not going to stop playing MSF over it. To me they are two different games, MSF is more turn-based and I love the amount of characters are in it like Raid and Summoners War, while MMM is more of an idle game that I can auto 90% of the modes. There is really only one mode I’ve seen that you can’t auto cause it’s a scenario based and you have to beat it with just one character. Idle type game I play but they get less attention from me.

[@Raxiums]

nah, not my cup of tea

[@IowaRetroGamerDad]

I already hate the character designs.

[@mainejojo]

Shit wack

[@sonybae6605]

looks boring

[@breakupgoogle]

COME BACK TO SWGOH!!!! we miss u ❤

[@syxtilidie]

i’m testing this game and it’s ass😭😭

[@arcanine787]

No it's not bad for msf cause the company who runs this game are banned in one country

[@MoramothHauntz]

Left MSF last week. Doubt I'll tryystic Mayham though

[@julianosilveira3102]

anime base yuck, for the love of god no

[@gregmartinez7881]

Count me in