MSF vs. FNC | 2021 LEC Spring Week 1 Day 1

[@Lucama221]

Gonna be interesting to see who people blame FNC losses on now that Nemesis left the squad.

[@andrewbracken6183]

right

[@SirNikurasu]

Nemesis was the reason they lost multiple games they should've won. It's a simple fact. That being said, Bwipo and Hyli also sprint a marathon every now and then. THAT being said, Nisqy is at best a sidegrade to Nemesis and Upset is a big downgrade to Rekkles

[@HARDMODELORE]

Well, its easy. Nemesis was a problem. Bwipo is still a problem. Rekkles leaving is a major problem. But yeah, even if fnatic keep losing, that does not make Nemesis less bad.

[@andrewbracken6183]

@@HARDMODELORE nemesis was only a problem because his team plays like apes

[@HARDMODELORE]

@@andrewbracken6183 sure, he is great. Thats why he is currently playing for....for.... Ho right

[@jls22147]

16:07 start of game 38:05 game resumes after pause

[@vishwanathamallampooty8182]

Doing god's work my friend

[@trermiki9]

Riot and Nestlé are like: 🤑🤑🤑

[@FeitanL]

king

[@neeko319]

I gotta say bwipo and hylissang are really consistent players, just not in a good way

[@brunoperez5505]

Just compare Wunder's Gragas against a Renekton in the first game against Mad Lions versus Bwipo's Gragas in this game. Worlds apart.

[@fabiendu9808]

wunder >>>>> bwipo

[@user-yo3cg9ev8y]

imo bwipo is a bottom tier top laner in terms of mechanics

[@coomer1451]

in bwipo's mind he's the best top laner in europe

[@brunoperez5505]

@@user-yo3cg9ev8y I mean I like Bwipo and I think he's a fun person, but it still astounds me how the very same matchup can turn out so differently (without too much jungle interference tbh). Wunder is a beast!

[@shiaeliminator6484]

Bwipo is a mastermind, but he doesn't have hands as good as his brain. Wunder is undisputed in the top lane

[@seandeloddere1478]

Vander is sooooo good man. Just wish rogue could've kept him with odoamne, that team would get me so hyped.

[@domagoj905]

Same!

[@189Blake]

It looks like he is gonna be ok on Misfits, if they keep playing like that.

[@lasourismoofy7096]

He is actually so good ! (Also I just love how on last fight botlane, he uses all spells and then he is like "well Gragas ulted me ... and now I can’t do anything ... hum ... let’s just stay in the middle of the action I think I’m ok" )

[@elopomelo7197]

Trymbi isn't bad either. Maybe he is a rookie but I believe he can play as good as Vander

[@khirsah666]

Yeah he is on form! Remember few years back no one wanted to pick him up. Really who the fuck runs this orgs??? Also msf looked good with their new rookies but for years their problem is not working out their issues since 2018 after so many roasters changes it is still the problem so it must be a management issue. I hope they fix those too.

[@Nebrophonus93]

Bwipo Grag vs Wunder Grag is like Silver vs Pro

[@189Blake]

For being a team of rookies, MSF managed to make FNC look bad. HiRit and Vetheo were really styling on their opponents.

[@clintfischer1057]

Nisqy played best this game, but hyli and bwipo and kinda self-made as well fed .

[@189Blake]

@@clintfischer1057 I know right? It's kind of funny that the newcomers played better than the FNC veterans.

[@khirsah666]

@@clintfischer1057 don't forget upset. He fit right in with aggressive inting play style.

[@clintfischer1057]

@@189Blake Would be Funny if I wasn't a FNC fan. I was cheering for G2 without regret, but watching FNC vs Misfits made me almost feel shame. I kinda hope they pbm was a first and a paused game, and that they will ramp it up later on, but thats more of an excuse than a reason to play that way. It didnt look like they were pros taking it seriously. Time will tell, lets hope for a good spring split, I will be cheering for S04 for a bit from now on.

[@clintfischer1057]

@@khirsah666 He had a decent score at first, but as adc role its hard to be proactive AND survive when your teammates are all over the place. See g2 game yesterday ? Cohesive team fights and strong front lane = rekkles smurfing vs split up teammates in chaotic team fights = upset dying.

[@juanantoniogragasin1685]

FNC fans just hold up. No one on FNC screwed up they literally just got outplayed by MSF. There's no more Nemesis to blame here lmao. MSF was the better team on the day and that's all there is to it.

[@qingludoo]

Nemesis > Nisqy

[@crashcrafter3911]

They took bad fights over and over. They were outplaying themselves

[@189Blake]

No one screwed? 38:15 Bwipo walks down the turret and ints 43:57 Hyli has vision of enemy jungler flanking, decides to hexflash further down the turret and ints 55:05 Selfmade forgets he can ult out, instead of ulting in 1v5. Gives free Baron

[@omeriftikhar3929]

@@189Blake Agree 100% with ya, mate. All three really screwed the pooch yesterday...on the plus side...it can't get worse...can it? 😳

[@colacio54]

Fnatic got scaling Champions + teamfight composition and decided to engage Over and Over again for no reason. Most of teamfights were 4x5 with renekton on Side Lane and fnatic still lost teamfights anyway.

[@Beefwelliington]

50:49 onwards Vetheo outplayed like no other that was so good live

[@itzsyfan]

That was a banger. Vetheo seems promising

[@derikjalomo783]

you know what announcer guy, it was smooth enough, GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@ilyasfarhan1802]

Aside from questionable teleport in the top fight early game, nisqy seem to be doing great. However, I guess that Bwipo is not used to Gragas. Hope that they can improve for future game

[@kalls2k907]

Lol look at the way he ints at 38:26 , literally oblivious and then his ult at 49:07 , completely rushing it. I'm no gragas player but holy shit you can see how badly he misplayed here

[@ilyasfarhan1802]

@@kalls2k907 yes I know that, thats why I feel like his mastery of Gragas is below pro player level

[@kalls2k907]

@@ilyasfarhan1802 indeed, I don't understand why not just abuse goredrinker and go aatrox just like that renekton did, that item is so damn unbalanced right now ntm the op heal with aatroxs ult lol

[@ilyasfarhan1802]

@@kalls2k907 if im not mistaken, two previous game really showcase gragas against renekton. Gragas always have a lead and be impactful in the game, not to mention Gragas seem to be in fashion right now. So I can see why Bwipo pick Gragas, but still..

[@kalls2k907]

@@ilyasfarhan1802 yeah why just play a champ when you can't give your 100% to it, he played so good with ornn now lol even beat jax 1v1 mid game

[@DenkyMusic]

46:20 Bwipo needs a brain 🧠

[@JealotGaming]

Nisqy and Upset got griefed holy shit

[@emanuelalexistroncosovilla1904]

they are straight trash dude.

[@bill_r_]

Nisqy kekw

[@lucaslee8623]

Fnatic not making playoffs this season

[@Beckst]

@@lucaslee8623 its 1 game lmao calm down

[@azizd.686]

Literally

[@CuffsJNW]

Im hyped after seeing this game. Might become a msf fan. Always loved Kobbe Vander, now theyre on one team with spicy rookies

[@serafimurbas3440]

What drug was hylissang on

[@kin263]

Bwipo shit on nemesis and plays like this

[@fleda7629]

what exactly did he do? i actually like Bwipo, but i like Nemesis even more so i wanna see that, maybe i wanna change my mind now

[@sabertram8290]

Glad that Vander is on a promising team. If their rookies can play to their potential, they are an easy playoff team

[@Cloudmoder]

Bwipo inting? Where have I seen that b4? oh right the last 3 Worlds and the last 3 finals

[@user-vm2ep5mt8e]

... selfmade get out of there as fast as you can

[@cort0gen924]

I wanna see how fnc perform this year, I can't judge from the first game but if this keeps up I wanna see bwipo selfmade and hyli replaced

[@c.k.4770]

Knowing that Rekkles left Fnatic honestly broke my heart. I had so much sympathy for this guy. But his chance of fulfilling his dream of winning worlds is probably better with G2. Miss you rekkles. Bwipo, stay the way you are.

[@lineshuffle]

You blind? Caps left fnc to g2 because he wanted to win Worlds. The fact is none, fnc or g2 will win the worlds this year either. Fnc looking like a bunch of gold elo solo players and g2 having no one to scrim with, because carlos buys out every player from other teams.

[@tonymontana5565]

are you for real? WTF?! :D:D:D

[@hodorba5567]

better to buy every player from other teams than to have all talents split over the teams stuck with lackies. and how are you already calling worlds results in week 1 of spring lmao. how about you start with sprint finals hahaha

[@lineshuffle]

@@hodorba5567 LEC has no competition. G2 isnt gonna get any better playing against 9 weak teams. LEC is weak while lck and lpl have fierce competition. G2 can only brag about a msi trophy and domestic lec trophies, but whats that worth if you are runner-up for years at Worlds.

[@coomer1451]

Upset : 46:10 afk + ult into renekton 49:07 using galeforce into galio ult 50:56 afk fights then afk again 57:18 ult into renekton again

[@khirsah666]

49.07 one was soo bad he go in face first because he wanted to save ult while ult shield might help there... Team didn't helped him for position either but he really wanted to go in...

[@dlugi4198]

mayby Nemesis wasn't the problem after all?

[@TheBlackfall234]

Maybe dont judge after 1 game. Early Season doesnt mean much anyway. Will there ever be a day where people will be reasonable in their judgement of teams ?

[@dlugi4198]

@@TheBlackfall234 Ofc you are still totally right, I am still kinda salty, the treatment Nemesis got from community. Another big thing also is, that MSF propably prepared more for this match than FCN. Let's see how Rogue vs FNC ends up

[@SerhiiMartyneko]

@@dlugi4198 He got exactly the treatment he deserved. He was not on the level of play that fnc requires. I don't understand why Selfmade is still on the team, but oh well, they still have time to get rid of him.

[@dlugi4198]

@@SerhiiMartyneko The sole fact, that you think selfmade is the problem in FNC makes your opinion about Nemesis irrelevant.

[@SerhiiMartyneko]

@@dlugi4198 No, the other way around. The sole fact that you think that he is not a problem makes your opinion irrelevant. See how easy it is to have constructive argument on the internet?

[@GPS08]

So these games are not live? I'm confused. What was the point of the game pause and all that shit? I mean, they show us (by mistake) a replay that happened in the "future" which is enough proof it wasn't live. What's going on?

[@cmg1235]

theres a slight delay of like a minute or so, so that teams have no way of cheating by stream sniping

[@rayir.1382]

You could see by minute 9 in-game where Selfmade and Hyli had to reconnect. That is when the pause took place for the players. It's a 1-5 min delay for the purpose of avoiding stream sniping.

[@imransiddiquebhunnoo3274]

3 mins delay for competitive integrity

[@spongepopsmoke2607]

Where can i get those pictures that Misfits had at the end?

[@khirsah666]

Riot store probably or amazon,ebay etc.

[@gia24ify]

Imagine leaving open taliyah...

[@HabCabab]

29:20 That sick burn from Medic XD

[@williamhughes3652]

Reckless who * o the guy that went 909 against mad lions today

[@SoccerFan9000]

Yeah but according to Bwipo they haven’t relied on him for some time haha

[@OzReviews2]

Rekkles*

[@Superchinaman25]

anyone knows the music playing during pick & ban phase?

[@LukasJ4]

look like: marc barrachina sanchez - the magic kingdom new version

[@DavidGarcia-mk7fy]

Nisqy did not made the penta due that finished before 27 bruh

[@trermiki9]

Honestly I feel like These long Pauses are only so they can show the Kit Kat Ad more. Fucking Nestlé man

[@vedansh3737]

agreed its all about the money

[@trermiki9]

@@vedansh3737 yea and I can totally understand that. I mean who cares if some kids in Africa need to buy expensive water so they dont die, right ?

[@zdzkck]

I still believe Fnatic would have gotten the penta at 27 minutes. That’s why it was vital Misfits finished them at 26 minutes.

[@noahbehl]

Bwipo and Hyli ran it this game. Unfortunate, since. Nisqy played well for his first game back in the Europe.

[@hunie773]

Epic game thank you for uploading 🥰

[@FeitanL]

Yamato drippin man , i bet he s in a suit even when he s sleepin.

[@Zellzify]

I dont think FNC shows a lot of confidence. We dont want a mediocre team, we want a team who dominates and belive in themselves like DWG for example

[@Burdiso93]

Confidence ? Since when is re-engaging a teamfight with a 15% HP Gragas that neither has Ult nor Flash onto a Renekton who still has his Dominus a good idea ? 46:19 Or how about engaging 5:1 while your ADC and Toplaner are not even near you. 55:07 Also noteworth in both plays Hylissang didn't even have his Ult for Follow-Up. Right now Bwipo and Selfmade are completely on opposite pages and they just take plays they think are good regardless of their teams positioning or any kind of Cooldowns.

[@Jungfrun1]

I instinctively pressed on this vod cus of FNC forgetting I'm not a G2 supporter.

[@Aspen70000000000]

My boy Nisqy! :)

[@hamedhosseini6801]

awesome game

[@antonyctno5707]

VETTTTTTTHEEOOOOOO LE PLUS BOOOOOOOOO

[@ssenkrad67]

Hirit top gapped bwipo nice game

[@osmwarrior2363]

I don't understand why ppl praise selfmade? That guy is literally Selfish as F, his behaviour is irritating really... Always prefer jungler like broxah over these ppl always even when they lose

[@mohamedsabry6056]

Man how this bwipo is a pro player lol?

[@marekrander]

fnc feels like my team vs enemy team

[@alaskanmalamute101]

Why cant the players be in the studio dont really make sense? Its not like there sat near the opponents team and they already within there own teams covid bubble.. I dont no if its an LEC enforcement or local government but should just have the players there without fans.

[@khirsah666]

Teams are in their own bubble not whole lec in the same bubble. Also many players live in their home with their significant other and there's so many people working behind the scenes like cameraman, makeup artist, referee, studio crew etc. To creat a total bubble you need to put all of these people in a isolated space and separate, ban to see their family and loved ones. Why would they do that for months?? It only make sense if they do it for short period of time events like finals.

[@zirvehemsireler9620]

HIRIT SMURFING LEC

[@colacio54]

Fnatic got scaling Champions + teamfight composition and decided to engage Over and Over again for no reason. Most of teamfights were 4x5 with renekton on Side Lane and fnatic still lost teamfights anyway.

[@TonyoDeCognat]

Nemesis & Rekkles were the best players of FNC. Now they're gone, Bwipo & Hyllisang keep inting. Terrible game to watch.

[@SoccerFan9000]

Lol but according to Bwipo they haven’t relied on Rekkles for some time, right? Haha guy is fucking cringe man 😂😂

[@barackobama768]

Nemesis was by far the worst player on Fnc, what are you talking about, even his biggest fanboy ls couldn't defend him at the end, Nisqy isn't a huge upgrade tbh but at least he doesn't have a champion pool problem like Nemesis. Honestly I never saw someone to get so much exposed like him at World's.

[@Lucama221]

@@barackobama768 exposed by playing solid games up until getting target banned game 4 of a series that should have ended at game 3 if Bwipo didn't int.

[@qingludoo]

top & mid diff ! lfl power. it will be hard to fnc go get playoff if bwipo and hylissang dont play better

[@doomzy8510]

i think bwipo just sucks at gragus tbh

[@MyMoMisAngry-l1m]

Bwipo the problem of the team

[@trermiki9]

No

[@lucaslee8623]

Nah the whole team is trash

[@PG-ft6bn]

Bwipo rly is toxic.

[@roodcrishi961]

Bwipo the problem now? Not nemesis? 🤔...

[@baleygr76]

Vetheo feels like caps

[@vineetsawant5815]

No

[@deliberation6022]

@@vineetsawant5815 he kinda does, he popped off and carried his weight in his first LEC game. He has a lot of potential

[@CRK_8]

He is only 18y and look at his first game

[@khirsah666]

@@deliberation6022 This is exactly what I thought! He seems mechanically gifted so far and he is climbing fast! He started playing in 2019! Hope he keeps it up.

[@_brvnwwrld_]

Bibbedi Babbedi Bub

[@enokkarpati251]

Fnatic missed so many stuff. Like every other easy skilshot missed

[@gorandjurica7149]

Nemessis >Nisqy

[@JealotGaming]

Imagine blaming Nisqy for this loss Absolute comedy

[@cleareyes4955]

@@JealotGaming they're just a fanboy of nemesis

[@gorandjurica7149]

@@JealotGaming Nemessis is just better dude.I dont follow nisqy that much but every time i have seen him he didnt do good

[@darjuzz424]

Goran Djurica he was the best in the Game wdym? U just proved THAT some people shouldnt have internet...

[@mouadhtijani9544]

Both good players but they do not play the same

[@kokokakis]

LFL >>>>>

[@thekoshplays2207]

bwipo is shocking bad

[@doomzy8510]

hes just wasn't good at gragus, he needs to improve on him

[@oholmes1701]

Holy phk Ender is annoying caster or just me?

[@herbertafalafala7081]

It's just you

[@hodorba5567]

nah im totally with you, sometimes he makes great spaghetti jokes, but his ego is so annoying. often commenting on how good he is or putting fellow casters down for no reason.

[@mertmain9622]

HAHAHA RENEKTON GRAGAS TOP DİFF HİRİT>BWİPO

[@TheVenylo]

god the commentary is so cringe