MSFS | ATR72-600 Tutorial - Episode 3 - Descent, ILS, Landing and Shutdown! [4K]

[@speedbrake22]

Great video. Two things: during descent power management stays in CRZ until approach where you switch to takeoff power mode. And when descending to an altitude you can already switch to the local qnh.

[@BritishAvgeek]

I keep getting conflicting information, so ended up doing what I felt most comfortable with and what works for me

[@speedbrake22]

@@BritishAvgeek fairs

[@SimFanatic]

Great videos British Avgeek! Appreciate you creating these. Very helpful. Cheers & Blue Skies!!

[@peppy197]

The best tutorial so far, got me landing and parking....finally

[@BritishAvgeek]

Great to hear! 🙂

[@ralphconnell8163]

As usual, excellent. The standard I aspire too. Lot more work needed though.

[@tvmetric]

Awesome tutorial, you really did a great job at the description of the processes. Thank you.

[@BritishAvgeek]

Great to hear thankyou!

[@benvanboom8907]

Great tutorial, thanks. You explain everything very well and in a relaxed mode that is very pleasant. Very good landing although I would have keept the nosewheel more off on touch down for my feeling but I never flown the ATR in RL, but I find there is a tendency to bounce on my landings. Maybe I have to setup the control sensitivity in a different way. I still try to find a way to reduce throttle on flare and increase pitch in the same amount and then touch down…..but couldn’t find the sweetspot yet. Intercepting ILS by the way can be done with comfort until 45 degrees intercept angle. (i was hoping to see you perform a crosswind landing but unfortunately the wind turned…with those control inputs visible we can see clearly how you do that). Being a FS Pilot you really do a great job there!😊

[@RamiLaw11]

Very helpful, thanks for putting this together.

[@BritishAvgeek]

you're welcome!

[@Axolothle1]

Many many thx for this really useful videoguide!

[@BritishAvgeek]

You're most welcome! Hope you're enjoying the ATR so far!

[@serhiybobrov6450]

Thank you for the such useful information!

[@BritishAvgeek]

You're welcome!

[@ImpendingJoker]

Something I've noticed that even on shut down and even if you select Cold and Dark from the EFB afterwards, I still get the sounds of the igniters firing even after total power shutdown including the battery but only externally.

[@yams900]

Has the ATR got the FIX to waypoint function, like in CRJ ? Super handy feature, set say 80nm to waypoint...makes you aware to start descending

[@BaNkIck]

Hey, awesome series on the ATR. Thanks a lot! What's the addon you use to park at then end of the video?

[@BritishAvgeek]

GSX Pro 🙂 glad you liked the series!

[@sailorman420jbm]

At 27:40 you open the Flow toolbar, and I'm curious what addons you're using for the Controls Visualizer, the Landing Rate, and VATSIM. If you have other tips on using the Flow toolbar and associated addons, do you have a video detailing them? Thanks!

[@BritishAvgeek]

The control visualiser is default in flow pro but the widgets are from flightsim.to

[@Macbrowndog]

Thanks for these tutorial they have been very helpful

[@BritishAvgeek]

great to here! another episode coming soon!

[@daviddanser8011]

Great tutorial, but how do you know which vs to hold during decent ?

[@d.p.5874]

Hello British Avgeeg, Thank you very much for your very informative tutorials. I would like to share with you the following issues I experienced, in case you could provide some solution or workaround. It appears that the last update of the payware ATR is still very buggy, in my opinion : 1- You cannot do several hops from airports to airports : - The MCDU does not reset, Transition Altitude sticks at 18000ft, - unable to set back the hotel mode from engines off, no "Ready" light on the overhead ================================================= EDIT : For that point I believe I found out a way out : - Make sure the gust lock is engaged, - Make sure the propeller condition lever is on feather postion "ftr" - If "Ready" does not light on, press the "Grd Ctl Only" button on the pedestal, below the parking brakes, to raise hydraulic pressure enough Note : To exit Hotel mode, you also need "Ready" on, using same three steps above Hope this can help other people like me, in quest for an operation manual ... ================================================= 2- VNAV is not working properly when you are lucky enough to have it set on the PFD, the altitude constraints in the FMS are rarely met. 3- V-FP is not working properly for RNP approaches 4- TOC and TOD do not show up from time to time and are erroneous most of the time. ...Nice aircraft if you just use it in LNAV mode or manual VOR to VOR, do manual, VS or IAS descent and manual or ILS approach. Too bad if we take into account all the nice details in the cockpit ! Kind regards

[@BritishAvgeek]

Hi! You're welcome! I haven't flown the ATR much since the latest little update but I'll try explore it a bit more to see

[@d.p.5874]

@@BritishAvgeek thx BrAvg. It would be nice if you could explore VNAV when climbing or descending with few altitude constraints in the MCDU and V-FP on RNP approach. I may be doing something wrong. Cheers

[@d.p.5874]

@@BritishAvgeek Hi British Avgeek, Just to follow up, I just noticed that you need to fly "Live" weather conditions to get the right airport altitude on PFD with BARO at QNH. If it happens that you don(t fly "Live" weather, either you need to keep the BARO at 1013 hPa or tune the QNH in the weather settings of the MSFS sim to get the right airport altitude. This fact might be the source of difficulties when using VNAV, TOD , V-FP ...

[@SkipperMac]

I've loved your whole series on the ATR's! Can someone please point me to where I can find the Flow Pro landing analysis widget as I can neither find it in my Flow nor by searching online. Looks like a great addition to promote smooth landings.

[@BritishAvgeek]

You need Flow Pro, then head to flightsim.to and search for landing rate widget

[@rudolfbumm8126]

Excellent content, thanks

[@BritishAvgeek]

You're welcome 🙂

[@chadvader974]

Have no idea how to descend? DO you fly manually at that point? Once I switch on APR AP the plane doesnt descend¬!

[@seanpinnell4806]

Great video per usual, what peripheral are you using as you yoke/flight stick? HoneyComb, Boeing, etc?

[@BritishAvgeek]

Thanks! A Turtle Beach VelocityOne Flight is what I'm using

[@albinnilsson711]

Why is the airplane overspeed the whole time and crashes, when I am staring the decent the speed only goes up and then over speeds what do I have to do to avoid over speed??

[@BBoaBrim]

I need to look at my throttle quadrant settings, as when I try to move my condition lever to cut off, whether using mouse or the physical lever, it refuses to stay in cut off. So at the moment I’m having to use the fire levers to shut off the engines. 😂

[@Residentrounds]

i have the same issue but i didnt think of using the fire levers. thanks

[@BBoaBrim]

@@Residentrounds I’ve managed a work around. I’ve read somewhere that once the throttles have been moved the aircraft assumes you’re in flight. Therefore you cannot put the engine condition levers into cut-off as a safeguard to prevent accidental over-exertion of the levers and cut off the engines in mid-flight. What I’ve done is gone into the settings (keyboard) and assigned separate keys for Toggle Feather Switches 1&2. Now I can switch off engines by use of the keyboard keys assigned.

[@Residentrounds]

@@BBoaBrim ill try that. Thank you!

[@BritishAvgeek]

Usually this behaviour is caused by a rogue keybind interacting with the aircraft in an unintentional way

[@pathm11]

@@BBoaBrim That's a great idea. It works for my Logitech quadrant. Thank a lot.🙂

[@CMACJAZZ]

Do you know how to do this I tried various methods and cannot get it to work. Thanks

[@BritishAvgeek]

Press Alt GR and click on a display I believe

[@regurgitated]

Loving your ATR content! Have you tried HOLDING procedure? I have tried twice or so, but plane never followed the route. Started circling by doing exact circle and then it flew completely away from route :D Any video about it would be appreciated. But maybe its still bugged :(

[@BritishAvgeek]

Yeah I tried to record one the other week, and tried to fly one live as well but it's borked and still doesn't fly a hold well at all

[@AzzySunfire]

What is MDA? Why do I have to align the heading bug, exactly?

[@BritishAvgeek]

MDA - minimum decision altitude. Heading Bug alignment is to ensure you have set everything correctly

[@gdwnet]

What is that landing rate monitor you used here?

[@BritishAvgeek]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpfPlpipodaChqM

[@Krsnda]

Hi, Is your fpm counter (for landing) part of the parallel42?

[@ricardocosta783]

Great tutorial! 2 questions: 1. My power management knob does not want to turn sometimes. Seems like a bug or is it maybe bound to a certain key by default? 2. Is there a reason why the synch of the heading is so important to do everytime, even while flying on vnav? Thanks!

[@BritishAvgeek]

Hi! Great to hear 😊 good questions too! 1 - it's a little Buggy. I've found using my mouse scroll wheel in the centre makes it rotate more consistently 2. It's good practise. If you are on LNAV and suddenly get ATC vectors at any stage - whether that be in the SID, Climb, Cruise, Descent or STAR you know your heading bug is facing the same direction of travel as your VNAV and that then gives you one less thing to think about

[@CMACJAZZ]

Do you know if it’s possible to get 2D instrument pop outs to see more clearly airspeed etc on approach. Thanks for the tutorials-

[@BritishAvgeek]

I believe you can pop them out yes, though I personally don't.

[@yams900]

//42 Addon, what was it called and where do you download ? I've got the Pro version :)

[@JuanAntonioGómez-s3l]

Great tutorial. I’ve learned a lot from all your vídeos. Thank you so much. Please, what is the widget that appears at 27:42 (Controls Visualizer)?. I’m searching for it and I can’t find it anywhere.

[@BritishAvgeek]

It's Parallel 42 Flow Pro

[@JuanAntonioGómez-s3l]

@@BritishAvgeek Thanks again. I own Parallel 42 Flow Pro, but I was referring to the widget (I’m sorry, I’m not good at English) you use. The symbol looks like a game console controller and appears “Controls visualizer” in Flow center wheel. The left bottom corner shows axis for final approach.

[@BritishAvgeek]

@@JuanAntonioGómez-s3l it's inside the widget menu within flow pro, can't remember where exactly but it's there somewhere 😅

[@JuanAntonioGómez-s3l]

@@BritishAvgeek I will find it, for sure. 👍Thank you.

[@crimsonwreb3132]

VLE = max speed L/G EXTENDED VLO = max speed L/G OPERATING Max speed for extension is 170 not 185 which is the max speed with gear EXTENDED.

[@molliesfmfurry2284]

Can you use the auto eng start up (X) and auto shutdown with the ATR?

[@BritishAvgeek]

I think so yeah, but I'm not 100% because I never do that myself

[@MiroslawSawenko]

As I remember a long time ago, flying the FS9 many of Vpilots used a Flight1 ATR72-600. It was one of the best and complicated model that time. And during descend, you can use FMS for V/S calc and display! You must just enter the next altitude and plane calcs V/S by itself, and you can see this in the FMC (RNAV Page). Does this plane have this option? Thank you very much for tutorials!

[@BritishAvgeek]

Hi! The VNAV currently is buggy (which is why I recommend flying it similar in ways to the CRJ700 using verticle speed mode) but it will be fixed soon and we shall see then what functions it has 🙂

[@MiroslawSawenko]

@@BritishAvgeek Cool! But CRJ has a "green banana" to define a point of desc. at needed altitude with the defined V/S. And ATR has not). BTW thank you very much and waiting for improvements). You're making a great job)

[@BritishAvgeek]

@@MiroslawSawenko yep this doesn't have the banana sadly so it's a self-calculation instead (take a look at descent.now.sh)

[@tomcoppins4565]

Fantastic series! I’ve done my first two ATR flights using this as a guide - I have noticed however that on both flights as I’m pulling onto stand my toe brake stop working and I overshoot the GSX guidance. Do you know if this is a bug or am I doing something wrong. Thanks.

[@BritishAvgeek]

not sure without seeing all the steps you're taking really!

[@tomcoppins4565]

@@BritishAvgeek I’m following every step you do as far as I can tell

[@jeffhiew5795]

Since ATR doesn't have Auto Throttle, how do you maintain VNAV PATH during descent?

[@BritishAvgeek]

By setting the throttle in a position you can descend nicely in, often it's a tiny bit above idle currently

[@andresm.t.3054]

Which landing rate are you using?

[@BritishAvgeek]

Parallel 42 Flow Pro

[@kenilkhambhaita3805]

Hi! Will you make a non ils tutorial for the atr?😊

[@BritishAvgeek]

I'll try get round to it!

[@OLDDREW]

I downloaded the checklist on day one has it changed since then

[@BritishAvgeek]

Yes it was updated today

[@paulwilson8367]

How is the FMS flight plan "Plan" mode accessed? I see it on videos so it's there, but no button says "Plan". How is it found? I think I have pushed every button.

[@BritishAvgeek]

There's no button, it's the dial I've shown in the video on the pedestal next to a + and -

[@harvey_5156wood]

Don’t bucking understand this mate

[@gibanica87]

Why on earth the landing rate screen has Ukrainian flag on it? Dear lord ..sick 😮

[@BritishAvgeek]

Firstly, I'm not sure why it's sick (assuming you mean in a bad way), and secondly, go ask the developer

[@gibanica87]

@@BritishAvgeek The question was rhetorical to devs of course We are enough of Ukrainian flags on premier league scoreboards, landing rate screens, chocolate packages, toilete doors etc If they mean to help they need to get themselves an AK and off to mariupol

[@flyeagle320]

Enjoyed to the core captain . Surely follow your method for my New ATR :)

[@BritishAvgeek]

Enjoy!

[@davidh7280]

Is this sim any good? Or is it still full of bugs? Its still £10 or so so i guess its buggy still?

[@daviddanser8011]

It is very good, especially for the price. I haven’t encountered any bugs so far. It’s my favorite plane atm. It is cheap because it is essentially a Microsoft plane and they don’t need to ask much.

[@paulwilson8367]

I guess you use a button assignment for flaps? I find it's terribly difficult when hand flying to scroll way over to that flap handle. As a Boeing guy, I find the Airbus switchology very backwards and unintuitive, but I will get used to it. For me, the biggest problem is cockpit vision and if I can see a good piece of the flightdeck, I can't read those tiny displays. I know in real life they are big and bright enough to see. If you have that auto box checked for the nav frequencies, what does that do for you?

[@BritishAvgeek]

Yes a keybind set (so in a way that simulates me reaching for the flap lever and using it rather than looking around to click somewhere). Same with every aircraft. I used the Auto box a few times, more useful after takeoff and in cruise to track nearby VORs

[@pixelrbit]

How do you extend the gears at 180 kts? For me it doesnt allow to extend it above 160kts because it's maximum operating speed for VLO. Is there any setting to change it?

[@BritishAvgeek]

Nope no setting for it

[@Gtapolice123]

When I try to get the fuel levers down, it just goes straight back up. And Prop brake is not lighting up as it should...

[@BritishAvgeek]

Sounds like you have either AI Pilot Assist type stuff or a mod clash with the aircraft. Try uninstalling it from content manager, restart the sim and re-install the ATR to see if that helps and check through any settings

[@commander_shadow2444]

Idk if I’m doing something wrong but my flight goes fine and then at a random point my atr will go off course and won’t follow it

[@BritishAvgeek]

it might just be a wider FMS issue/bug which should be sorted in the next update coming soon (which MS already have, but we have to wait for them to pull their finger out and give it to us!)

[@PixieGirl101]

Mine does the same thing, does it a lot in arrivals.

[@divinglee]

Great Video and thank you so much! BTW, what is the add on for he VDGS at the end of the video?

[@BritishAvgeek]

It's GSX Pro :)

[@jeffhiew5795]

I enjoy watching your tutorials, simple and easy to understand for non pilots. I've a question about the Set Auto/ Manual Speed Target knob, located left of Capt PFD. Unlike A320, ATR doesn't have Auto Throttle. After setting the speed target with the knob, how do you get the ATR to follow the speed target?

[@aygameryt]

I do it by turning on the IAS mode which is right beside the autopilot button, I'm pretty sure it just adjusts your pitch to match the speed you picked. Edit: It doesn't work in cruise tho and make sure you have the idle gate behind the throttle off

[@BritishAvgeek]

continue to adjust the throttle yourself - it's the only proper way certainly on approach

[@swedishguyflies9077]

Excellent video ! Thanks

[@BritishAvgeek]

Great to hear!

[@managed9348]

If it’s possible can you show how to abeam a waypoint?

[@BritishAvgeek]

it's not yet a properly working feature but when it's sorted, I'll show you how

[@managed9348]

@@BritishAvgeek thank you🙏🏽

[@nemoaps]

Ευχαριστούμε!

[@BritishAvgeek]

Thank you!