MSFS | TFDi MD-11 Tutorials - Episode 3: Descent, Landing & Shutdown [4K]

[@LindasGamingCorner]

The MD-11 is a handfull. But damn i love her!!! Thanks for helping us find our way!

[@ferrabras]

Yes, I've bought right after release, but I had a altimeter issue with Newsky. Later on I flew it but switched quickly to B77. Recently came back to it and I'm trying to master the landing. Last 3 flights I did great on fully manual visual approach.

[@jakubisheremaybe]

right on time, i just reached TOC and am reading about descents and approaches, usually i miss something and this wil fill in the gaps! thanks man

[@BritishAvgeek]

@@jakubisheremaybe great timing 😂

[@awhite3713]

gonna cliff note this in no particular order: 1. Dial a flap is set during the after take off flow (Spoilers disarmed, auto brake off, dial a flap 15 degrees then run the after take off checklist). 2. I guess from the other video, takeoff - count 3 Mississippi slowly pulling the nose up through about 10 degrees. after positive rate then pull up to the flight director. Passing 400' select PROF. if your FMS is set properly with a SID, the speeds will be protected with prof. 3. Runway turn off lights: they are at 18k up and down not 10k. 4. in general Slats on downwind when slowing past 220-210 depending on weight, Flaps 15 on base. all the way to Flaps 28 if heavy. 5. Put gear down before selecting Flaps 35. the landing gear warning is because there is a lockout preventing the flaps beyond 28 unless the gear is down. typical call is "Flaps 28, gear down, before landing checklist". Once gear is "Down, In, and 4 green" then flaps 35. (then to 50 if needed). That configuration should happen no later than 2000' AGL on the glideslope so you are configured by 1000'. 6. Flare height.... so this video the weight is in KG, the only 3 remaining operators manage the MD in lbs and this next rule of thumb works in LBS. Whatever your landing weight is in lbs, (first 2 numbers (ish)) is your flare height. so 461000 lbs - approx 46', 400000 lbs - 40 '. to be blunt anything over 450,000 lbs land flaps 50 to reduce your vertical descent, unless you are empty, never wait past 40' to start the flare. Flaps 35 should be 6 degrees nose attitude. Flaps 50 - 5 degrees. 7. Vectoring onto the approach - assuming the software is like real world. While in heading mode, go direct to the last waypoint on the ILS approach then clear the turn point (TP), the MFD should then display an extended centerline to help you intercept. 8. Once mains touch down, hold the nose attitude for a good 4 count. the MD always heaves on its mains and can go back a foot or two in the air before settling for a second time. after holding then gently fly the nose to the ground. Overall a decent video for the MD. Oh and we type the ILS identifier in not the freq / heading. generally the MD won't show that from the FMS until closer to downwind. not sure how this software does it but maybe wait until base before hard tuning it to see it if auto tunes.

[@aadhimugilan5528]

Thanks for this mate. MD is definitely an interesting plane to fly.

[@AirborneGeek]

Awesome work man!! Loved this series...I haven't bought it yet but I will after watching your videos once I am back from my july 4th vacation 🙂 Thank you for making this series!

[@BritishAvgeek]

You're welcome 🙂

[@ferrabras]

A bif of a hard landing there. After a dozen of flights I think I finalled mastered the full manual landing procedure. I can set speed, descent, etc.... After flying B77 a lot, I came back to MD11 so the chanlenge of flying is back on.

[@KevinGabriel-o8z]

You are the best at msfs tut thank you so much with help with all the planes especially with the pmdg 777 I love it thank you so much❤

[@daveorr5858]

Super video managing speeds are tricky well done

[@BritishAvgeek]

Thanks - probably my worst landing yet in the MD-11 though 😂😂

[@rshvkkt91]

That LSAS got you in on final approach! I still have fond memories of the PMDG MD11 in FS9 using 2D panels, the system complexity really blew me away! This was before i got comfortable with the Boeing philosophy of doing things. I'd wait till the extended package releases because i wish this to be a proper study level sim.

[@BritishAvgeek]

@@rshvkkt91 it did didn't it 😂 I find it quite tricky to land well!

[@cheno216]

Being waiting for this

[@weizhongxue]

damn ,what a hard landing ,,man!!!!

[@andybrimer8216]

I just purchased this plane and have really enjoyed the tutorial. For whatever reason, I can't click the speed button as I'm getting near approach. Are you using right, left, or scroll click (or something else) on the mouse to manually select the speed? Seems that one of those should work. Thanks in advance.

[@BritishAvgeek]

I scroll with my mouse wheel to select the speed I want

[@andybrimer8216]

Thanks. It'll let me do that, but it'll go back to auto-speed after a few seconds. I'll figure it out

[@Tailz94]

Great video mate! Though a question despite arming my spoilers handle. Seems my spoilers do not deploy on landing? Do another flight to confirm but noticed they didn’t deploy at all

[@jnln]

I have done 4 landings now and it really struggles to pick up the ILS sometimes not at all. Can be at initial slope height or even below and the aircraft will not establish. Feq and crs are set correctly with landing armed.

[@BritishAvgeek]

@@jnln I've had the same - 50:50 success with ILS now

[@KurtKnox]

In your first video you showed how you set up the 3rd engine to the throttle. How did you bind the 3rd reverser? Does it use the same values(throttle decrease/throttle cut) as other planes do? I've tried binding it in the same fashion as the engines. Reversers 1& 3 to one and reversers 2 to the other, but the 3rd reverser knobs don't seem to move

[@BritishAvgeek]

@@KurtKnox the knobs don't move for me either (ongoing issue from what I understand) but bound them to Decrease Throttle

[@KurtKnox]

@@BritishAvgeek Thanks! As long as they work, i guess they don't need to move

[@Angel33Demon666]

Have you managed to get this working when the cockpit interaction mode is in ‘universal’ rather than ‘legacy’?

[@ricardovilereg]

Hello! Where do i press to disengage the AP when landing? I am pressing "auto flight" but Betty wont stop calling auto pilot........................ :(

[@Gerbbo1]

I'm not totally influenced on this one!! And it's a bit overpriced for me fit what it is. I'll wait for the PMDG 777F. As usual, great tutorial vids. 👍🏻

[@BritishAvgeek]

@@Gerbbo1 appreciate it! Glad you enjoyed watching nevertheless 🙂

[@crcpathfinder]

I must have missed it when after landing should the autopilot turned off?

[@joshuaspop8865]

How can I start the descent earlier than TOD if instructed by ATC? I normally just perform a VS descent but this airplane currently doesn’t have the level off indicator showing where the airplane will be when the selected altitude is reached.

[@BritishAvgeek]

@@joshuaspop8865 if ATC instructs you to descend then just begin the descent as you deem necessary to achieve what ATC have asked

[@joshuaspop8865]

@ right, it’s just difficult in this airplane because the typical arc or arrow doesn’t exist that shows where I will be at the end of the selected descent. So I’m just curious if there’s a way to let the FMC still manage the descent on demand. Maybe I’m not making sense

[@joshuaspop8865]

@ for instance, if ATC tells me to descend and cross X waypoint at X altitude, it’s a little bit difficult when there’s no indicator so I can dial in my vertical speed properly hit that altitude restriction, so I’m wondering if I can have the FMC do that when I tell it to.

[@BritishAvgeek]

@@joshuaspop8865 sadly I don't believe it had that capability so you'd have to do the maths... I can't quite fully remember currently as I've not used the aircraft in a while now

[@joshuaspop8865]

@ makes sense, thanks.

[@crcpathfinder]

When do you disengage the autothrust? I could have missed this, but I feel it is important. Thank you.

[@jumpjet777]

He didn't. He disengaged the autopilot to hand fly it the last few hundred feet, but the autothrottle remains on managing the speed (160 kts). When the aircraft touches down there are weight switches on the wheels/undercarriage. So when the weight of the aircraft is on the wheels the auto thrust is automatically disconnected.

[@crcpathfinder]

@@jumpjet777 Thanks for the helpful information. This clarified my question and will help with my MD-11 landings.

[@Dj11EP]

What is that landing rate add On?

[@vincebagadonis8016]

Is auto throttle supposed to disengage on touchdown? lol cause' mine sure as hell didn't! ..and one looks very silly trying to stop an fully loaded MD-11 when the throttle tries to maintain approach speed as our wheels are rolling! Seems like in full Autoland mode the AT will disengage, but that didn't seem to happen when I hand flew it on approach. Also when you disengage AP, why does that damn "autopilot" aural warning keep sounding and how do you shut it off?

[@Tbonedoesfsx]

Press the autopilot disconnect button again to get it to stop

[@Skipper441]

It’s surprising why pilots don’t always choose the maximum flap angle when landing. This gives a lower landing speed and therefore a shorter braking distance.

[@BritishAvgeek]

@@Skipper441 some airports like Heathrow for example use HIRO - high intensity runway operations. Effectively you try to be on the runway in as short a time as possible so try to calculate what the best config is to vacate on a high speed exit as quickly and smoothly as possible

[@BhamCoel]

Is there a way to turn off the rattle sound what’s on all the time in the cockpit Its so annoying I can’t turn it off in mine

[@BritishAvgeek]

Change the Standby Instrument settings in the EFB to Digital

[@UnoBadBadger]

so if it is in profile mode it won't capture? Ive done three flights now where it won't grab the localizer or glidescope

[@BritishAvgeek]

Yeah I've had ILS issues but found it I do it the way I do in this video, it works nicely. If I leave it in nav/prof then it doesn't

[@PeterESSA]

I wonder how many times you said "like so" in this video... Other than that, I really like your tutorial of the MD-11. I'm going to buy this beauty now. Thanks for doing this!

[@BritishAvgeek]

Usually at least 100 😅

[@Mountain-new]

I would love to see this out on Xbox.

[@91nicbra]

Certainly too sensitive in pitch, and the callouts seems of with 20 feet?

[@BritishAvgeek]

I agree, makes it extra hard to judge. Typically I'll land about 400fpm and 1.3G or thereabouts which is firm but this one was a heavy landing 😅 20ft seems more like 2ft doesn't it! Didn't help my rate of descent was high - like I said in the video it's a pain to land 😂

[@91nicbra]

@@BritishAvgeek Yeah, thanks for the video! Will probably wait for some updates but I also like the challenge 😆

[@Dave60ist]

Well I crashed on my first doing my second full flight fingers crossed

[@BritishAvgeek]

@@Dave60ist keep at it, she's tricky!

[@airbluex79]

Question: do this come with documentation.

[@BritishAvgeek]

To be honest I haven't even looked 😂

[@saren6538]

@@BritishAvgeekok so what checklist did you use ?

[@acktu]

Documents are in TFDi Design website. You don’t need to purchase to view it. Look in support - documents.

[@ohman02]

How come your DFW scenery isn’t absolute trash like everyone else? I have so many terrain glitches here and I’m sad cause it’s my home airport.

[@BritishAvgeek]

@@ohman02 before parking there was an awful awful mountain I had to get the aircraft up - edited it out for obvious reasons 😂

[@chrisgoulet5829]

@ohman0232 If you uninstall the USA - 3D Photogrammetry Cites package, it fixes it! Arlington is included in that, and for some reason, that completely overrides the airport scenery.

[@DrHenrik]

honesty I'm not surprised that the merger ruined boing ... quirky is a nice way of putting that the plane is dangerously bad designed xD

[@BritishAvgeek]

@@DrHenrik absolutely... The MD CEOs actually ended up becoming the leaders of Boeing in some weird way and that's probably when the culture of profit over safety began

[@DrHenrik]

@@BritishAvgeek yeah i mean i really wonder why boing even agreed to that in the first place ... given that macdonell models where phased out almost immediately (apart from th 717). Btw great tutorial mate virtually the md11 is really fun to fly !

[@bradskis81]

@@DrHenrik So curious, what about it do you find “quirky” that equals a bad design. I’d argue a lot is unique, but in actuality, a lot of those things are pretty awesome in real life. I work with a ton of guys who’ve flown both, and pretty much every one loves the MD, for those unique features Boeings don’t have.

[@DrHenrik]

@@bradskis81 It was a quote from the video however I get that many pilots love the plane exactly for the reasons it is rather dangerous in comparison. For instance the high landing speed necessitated by the smaller horizontal stabilizers. Than its the simlple fact that macdonnal douglas did exactly what boing does now, saving by compromising the design (albeit not as bad as the DC-10 with its cargo doors). I get that its fun to fly but not exactly the most secure option. However the third engine gives a nice kick I admit

[@AviationCrew_1]

FIRST