MSI GL63 9750h 1660ti Liquid Metal CPU teardown! Cools like a boss!

[@BobOfAllTrades]

Review upload goal is Tuesday before the Aorus 7 arrives 👍

[@antonywhatever572]

Why even bother to review this plastic abomination. GP is a compromise, everything below is a tragedy.

[@BobOfAllTrades]

Antony Whatever Runs cool, 1TB NVMe, plenty or storage availability beyond that, an 89% aRGB 120hz 3ms display, per key RGB keyboard, max fan hardware button, 9750h, 1660 ti, dual channel 16gb memory and weighs about 5lbs. If you can get it at a good price that sounds pretty good, don’t you think?

[@greddyxcivic]

Is there a particular reason you didn't apply liquid metal to the GPU? I have a GP63 and now that my warranty is over, i've been toying with the idea of doing liquid metal. Otherwise a great video! I know you said it runs cool, but is there any downside to doing it to the GPU as well?

[@BobOfAllTrades]

TS 656577 9:03 ??

[@feraleye2789]

Bob Hello, I wonder whether applying thermal paste to chokes under cpu would improve temps or not.. What do you think? (GE75-Repasted with Gelid GC)

[@OWNORDISOWN]

Cool as a cucumber ! Looking forward to the review :)

[@InterTRD]

cooling from msi just keeps getting beter (in looks)

[@nier6472]

THIS....This is art!

[@joseHernandez-hw8wt]

NO this dude is clearly hollywood. you are just emo lover

[@rajpatel5846]

finally perfectly audible, please maintain this level

[@BobOfAllTrades]

How about the very beginning with the lapel mic? It’s new and I’ll be using it for the review.

[@rajpatel5846]

@@BobOfAllTrades its alright, I mean just perfect job on audio levels in this video, maintain this standard and you are good to go 👍

[@BobOfAllTrades]

Alright I appreciate the feedback 👍

[@rajpatel5846]

@@BobOfAllTrades happy to help channel like yours 🤘

[@Anonymous09096]

hy, i have a msi laptop GF63 thin , I want to add liquid metal, but the base CPU heatsink is copper (there is no problem putting liquid metal), but the GPU base heatsink has the color of aluminum, the problem is that aluminum does not you can put liquid metal but instead in nickel and silver if you can(I have read that the heatsink can be made of nickel or silver as well and you can put liquid metal there), the problem is how to identify if it is silver, nickel or aluminum so I know whether to apply liquid metal or not. I don't know if you knew how to answer me about it, thanks!

[@ayoubelgr3238]

Is it ok to use : Liquid Metal on the CPU Thermal paste on the GPU And thermal Pad on the VRMs and VRAMs If yes. Can you please tell me what's the thickness of the thermal pad I can use for the VRMs and VRAMs ??? I have a GE73 Raider RGB 8RF

[@kennethroelatienza6405]

Same problem. I wanna know how thick the thermal pad should be around the CPU.

[@SteveEricJordan]

What has two thumbs and loved your Scrubs reference? Steve Jordan, nice to meet you.

[@jamesrussell9124]

This is the first time I've seen someone put thermal paste on the vrm. I'm having an issue with my laptops vrm, I used thermal pads but they're not working at all. They also seem to be creating a small gap so that the heat sink isn't clampled on the GPU. My CPU paste is spreading whereas the GPU paste isn't. I think the paste is doing its job, but it's feeling like I need to remove the 0.5 mm pads I used, and just use my thermal paste. What say you?

[@manz5377]

Made a mistake of using liquid metal to the gpu and noticed that it is 1-2C hotter than it was..agree to use thermal paste only on GPU. Nice video!

[@BobOfAllTrades]

Manz Yup the GPU doesn’t need it. Fun fact, one of HP’s new high end gaming laptops includes LM on the CPU only 😉 Something that I have been doing for years and you’d be surprised how far ahead of the curve we are as tech enthusiasts 🙌

[@rahulbasu4978]

Do we need to reapply liquid metal after a certain period of time to keep the temps low just like we need to do for a thermal paste?

[@tchrmart1n]

Thanks for the vid, I've got a gp63 with i7 8750h and 1070, was trying to play FarCry 5 yesterday, hit 96 degrees at times. The CPU is undervolted -175 and the short term boost has been turned down to 45w, the thermal compound is gelid extreme and I'm using a cooling pad too. Considering liquid metal too cause nothing else helps.

[@xescdelarosa3328]

Try sanding down a bit the cooling system and reapplying the paste again. Also don't forget to undervolt de cpu cache too. How's it doing after 2 years?

[@tchrmart1n]

@@xescdelarosa3328 thanks, never got into the liquid metal game- thank god, but temps are fine. Using ThrottleStop instead of XTU, seems to do a much better job. Thanks for the advice with the cache. Cheers

[@Seanweekhaizhen]

Great job 👍 I repasted my GS75 with liquid metal and the cpu temps went from 92 to 76, gpu only dropped 2-3 °C though but it was already very low at the low 70s to begin with :) Very satisfied overall I prefer using foam dams instead of tape though because it seals the entire die so its safe from spilling out the other side too. It also supposedly reduces the exposure to air and lengthens the operational life of the liquid metal but I've not experienced it myself yet.

[@Seanweekhaizhen]

@Mr Krabs Most definitely. Being liquid metal, it is conductive by nature and so if it spills onto the motherboard it will short out components and render the whole laptop useless. So do take care not to apply too much. Just a very thin layer will do. If you can apply just the right amount the cohesive nature of the liquid metal will hold itself together but that's very hard to get right. Thats why I used foam dams.

[@Seanweekhaizhen]

@Mr Krabs Yes, Kryonaut is a non conducting paste so it is much safer to use. Not to mention much easier to apply. Just follow how Bob did it and you'll be fine.

[@Hitmonkey420]

What kind of foam did you use? I bought some 10 ppi 1/4 thick aquarium filter foam but I'm worried itll melt

[@apoorvappychoudhary392]

Hello Sir Bob! I was interested in purchasing Eluktronics mech with rtx 2060 model to replace my desktop. Mainly my work is video editing and some casual gaming. So, I was wondering which version will give me better thermals the 15" or the 17" ?

[@BobOfAllTrades]

I haven’t used their 17” but people comment on it having better cooling 👍

[@apoorvappychoudhary392]

@@BobOfAllTrades Yeah. That's why I thought of asking it from you. Thanks alot. 😀

[@apoorvappychoudhary392]

@@BobOfAllTrades oh wait! Steven from own or disown did a video on the 17" version. Hahah

[@thunderlight8362]

Can you tell me the thickness of the pink color thermal pads which used near the cpu?

[@Pamani_]

Liquid metal on the VRM, let's go!

[@Pamani_]

@Xotic l Ice Thick thermal paste like K5 Pro is meant to replace thermal pad. It performs as good and you don't have to worry about thermal pad height/contact. I used K5 Pro and Phobya Nanogrease to repaste my laptop recently.

[@fxexile]

WHY NOT CONFORMAL COATING? WHY 33+ TAPE

[@sushilkmrrana]

Bro , I really need your help. Can you please tell me what is size of screws used for heat sink/ GPU. I lost few ones. Plz plz plz. Thanks.

[@alipacheco5877]

I always see people commenting about super 33+ tape, I’ve liquid metal pasted an Asus g701vi and aorus x7 v8, left it sideways in my backpack and transported it around and never had any issues, to be quite frank it seems to be a valid application so long as you don’t put too much LM. I comment on ownordisowns videos too, enjoy both of your reviews, most recent laptop is a triton 500 but I’m returning it as it had a defect in the paste job and one of the speakers, got an MSI gs65 stealth with RTX 2080 and 32gb ram and a 1tb ssd from XoticPC for 2300 usd, so I’ll probably liquid metal it if I feel it’s thermal throttling after an undervolt. TLDR; everyone has an opinion on everything doesn’t mean it’s right, keep up the good content.

[@xlandedit7639]

I would like to ask, what storage things were originally in the pc? And how many slots are there? As I am trying to get another ssd for it and I would like to know how many slots there were originally as mine came with an ssd and hdd already and I want to know if there is a spare slot

[@JasperStaal86]

Very informative, thanks! Im just wondering how often to repaste it with liquid metal. Really flirting with the option of LM as my 9570h is a great grill at the moment :/

[@FadhlyHamzah]

Same here. Idk if its worth the risk for first timer here. Have been using the laptop for 1 week and the 9750h got really hot

[@FadhlyHamzah]

About how often, I watched GamersNexus's video on LM and pretty sure u also did. It's possibly more than 2 years period because the temperatures are the same even without repasting LM. Read somewhere that someone has not repaste for 2-3 years top which means ever since LM was introduced

[@JasperStaal86]

@@FadhlyHamzah I'm giving it a go on my msi tomorrow. Got plastik 70 conformal coating and conductonaut. Did a test on my old xps 17 l702x today with a LM repaste in the cpu and the temps dropped from 89 to 70 degrees. I'm really impressed.

[@instaladordetelecentro3676]

Same here, i use a lot me laptop about render and now its so hot touch 100° on the package. I want to try this tecnical whit liquid metal

[@Tech875O]

How is the liquid metal application holding up? I have a y740 with a 9750h and 1660ti. It thermal throttles on me a decent amount, even with an undervolt.

[@kamryn7496]

I had a hp omen with 9750h an 1650 an it would run at 100C that was with undervolt now I got hp omen ryzen 7 4800h an 1660ti that ryzen 7 doesn’t get hotter then 75C I guess amd cpu’s run cooler?

[@CircularLogic]

Sorry for posting on this two months old video. However, I would like to ask about using thermal paste on VRM chips. What should I concern before using any paste on them? (or things other than Mastergel Maker?) and how long would it last (like drying out or slip aside)? Cheers!

[@BobOfAllTrades]

I2aynorsRaiders It’s all good! Use it or go with some .5 thin fulipoly pads. Either way it’s good to get familiar with the inside of your laptop and change non-conductive paste maybe once per year.

[@alexs1852]

Bob Of All Trades why they didn’t put thermal pads on gpu elements then? I guess is because 0.5 can be too thick. In opposite, normal thermopaste can be too thin annddd didn’t make roper contact so the best way is reuse stock blue paste. At least such dilemma I have with my Helios 300 2019)

[@shivanshusingh7942]

Im going to do it this monday...wish me luck amd any mewbie tips from u???

[@rleiner]

hey bro, how thin is that 33+ tape, i found a 19mm thin one but i dont know if its too thick. I guess it'll depend also on my cpu thickness

[@mucaaco1]

Why did the cpu usage also jumped down from around 70 to 50 % ?

[@BobOfAllTrades]

Single channel memory is like running a race on one leg. You’re putting extreme effort into something that’s not doing too well.

[@Kahilg]

Wow thanks bob, this looks very similar to the MSI GE75 9sf (internally). Do you recommend using a an acrylic coating before applying the electrical tape and if so what brand would you recommend ? Love your videos you're the reason I bought the GE75 2070 now I need to apply liquid metal because this monster runs a bit hot.

[@BobOfAllTrades]

Get on the Notebook Review Forums and ask around for advice there if you want more input from people who actually do this stuff all the time. This way you’re extremely confident before going in 💪

[@antonywhatever572]

GE looks similar to GL? Is this C-137?

[@kennethroelatienza6405]

I have the same motherboard for my MSI laptop. I want to add thermal pads around the CPU instead of thermal paste. What thickness do you recommend?

[@ayoubelgr3238]

Hey same issue if you have an answer let me know. Thanks

[@amel2091]

will it help to my 8750h?now hits about 85c and its undervolt

[@ComixsYT]

I recently picked up the MSI GL63 9SDK-614 (same CPU/GPU as the 9SDK-610 as you linked in the description and I assume you showed in the video) but with a different display, default storage config etc. Any idea if the teardown process is the same? Mostly interested in the 2nd M.2 slot I see on yours. I'm not afraid to open it up, but I'd like to know what I'm in for before taking off the "Factory Seal" label just in case it isn't what I think it is. Thanks :)

[@kamals_eye]

Breaking the Factory seal on an MSI laptop will NOT Void warranty. MSI allows users to open up their laptops to upgrade certain components. They have no issue with you breaking the factory seal as long as u dont mess up while opening the lap. :)

[@msigl639sdgameplays4]

Too impressed with this laptop. Got it 4 days ago. RDR 2 : 60-70 fps on Hardware Unboxed Optimised settings (check yt) SOTTR : 78 fps avg on highest preset Witcher 3 : 60 on Max settings with Hairworks max, 75-80 with Hairworks off Batman Arkham Knight : 90 fps constant on max settings Fortnite : 110 fps average on max settings 140 mV undervolt using Throttlestop, 165,320 MHz overclock. I have made a channel today and will upload the gameplays soon.

[@krasimirharizanov7862]

I got the GP65 with the same characteristics , cannot be MORE happy.It runs better than my previous Legion Y740 with rtx 2060 90w..from which i was not happy at all from software and driver side mainly.When i have time will do the same termall pasting ,and i will be Ok for the next 2-3 years with this lappy!

[@msigl639sdgameplays4]

@@krasimirharizanov7862 True bro, it's an excellent purchase plus you got the gp65, I have a crush on its keyboard

[@anhiirr]

well im now a year past ownership and am facing the choice of opening it up and upgrading the 16gb to 32gb of faster ram, adding a tb sata ssd, and a 3.4gb/s gen3 drive....among the dire need of a high quality aftermarket re-pasting. Since im still hitting 86-88 in fallen order, and 90+ in farcry 5 and newdawn maxed while undervolted even though frame rate is amazing ive broken 100fps in both. So the hardware itself is still worth its capability in 1080p, or as a lan rig....even though those b550 itx boards with wifi6 and the better VRM's....are looking insane these days with a r9.....and a beefy gpu....im leaning this direction now when i consider concepts like 2-3000$ laptop......and the 4600h 1650 equipped nitro5.......strikes me more as a viable "laptop" for work on the go etc......that can "game".....too.....i really wish there were a few 1650ti-maxq 4600h low profile options with duel channel lpddr

[@valdya22]

My GL63 cpu fan just stopped working, any idea why? Or is it just dead and I need to replace it?

[@aripmates3726]

how many millimeters thick is the thermal pad on the msi gl63?

[@billzou2454]

Hi, Bob, can Kryonaut thermal paste directly apply to the VRAM chokes and surrounding power resistant?

[@BobOfAllTrades]

Don’t use that but definitely use K5 pro.

[@billzou2454]

@@BobOfAllTrades Thanks. But in the video you use coolermaster mastergel. So I think Kryonaut and coolermaster master gel are the same? Compared to K5 Pro which one is better? coolermaster mastergel or K5 pro

[@BobOfAllTrades]

@@billzou2454 This is an old video and I have learned a lot since then.

[@billzou2454]

@@BobOfAllTrades Me too. But still I am not dare to use liquid metal on my 8750h. GL63 model. Recently I try honeywell 7950sp. That works really well. Will see how it lasts compare to Kryonaut

[@jintongzou4676]

Is it okay to use the thermal paste on the VRAM chokes though? I am still wondering what kind of Thermal interface material that MSI use on the VRAM choke before. I am trying to use TFX thermal paste. Can you give me some sugesstions Bob?

[@BobOfAllTrades]

Go with K5 Pro on those components 👍

[@jintongzou4676]

@@BobOfAllTrades What if I choose to use the thermal pad? What is the thickness I should choose? Will MX4 or TFX damage the VRAM choke in the future if I use the thermal paste on them?

[@jeffreyokun2355]

I'm not recommend anyone do this but I had fantastic result by using thick non-conductive thermal paste instead of tape to protect the circuitry. This allows slightly further cooling and it also forms itself automatically to the heatsink.

[@tornad8063]

You had any problems with that?

[@gamingmedotv3173]

I have MSI GL75 LEOPARD 10SER any Idea about water Cooling?

[@Terreos]

Very thorough video as always. Nice work. I hope you do a follow up video a few months down the road to show how the liquid metal is holding up. The biggest fear I see with these liquid metal applications in laptops is it eventually shorting something out. Though I haven't seen many cases of it.

[@BobOfAllTrades]

Yeah you won’t see cases cause it only happens when the application was incorrect 👍

[@jarno2427]

Is it safe to use will it dry out on copper ? I want to use to but i am schared that in wil go in to the copper and dry out (or do a test with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme )

[@kiennguyen-tm8bo]

bob can u do the same instruction for the y540 rtx 2060. I am scared to end up killing my laptop with lm lol.

[@BobOfAllTrades]

kien nguyen I’ve torn down the y730 and y740 already. Just follow one of those two videos 👍

[@hackerrush]

Hello, i did my repasting also on cpu and gpu with arctic mx4 but i didnt clean the old paste from the small square things there, i let it like that how it came from fabrique, is that a big problem or they are not so important ? :) i must say cpu working at 100% from 95-100 degrees sometimes got down to 80-85 degrees and this without cooling table or turboboost of msi!!! arctic mx4 is the best paste

[@abdulrazaqtopeaminu9336]

How long will the liquid metal last before it needs to be changed? And wont it corrode any component? I have the core i5 of this laptop and I need to reduce its temps, getting to 95ish with gaming, looking for a safe long lasting LM

[@suphds1204]

Hi Bob, Can you make a tutorial on using liquid metal on Dell G5 5505 se. The laptop heats a lot out of the box.

[@natireson4140]

How long would you expect it to last ?

[@Elgonnt]

Hey i wondering if its good to put liquid metal on laptop? Are they some cons after some usage, i dont know after one year ? I using hp omen 15 i7 8750h with rtx 2070 max q... Wanna rly try LM, cause i already two times repasted cpu and gpu with arctic mx-2 2019 edition, but temps on cpu are pretty high still for me ( 80-90C in games for cpu with peaks to 94C ) .. would apreciated your help :)

[@MrSandwichk]

I'm not seeing much difference with Conductonaut on my GL63 with 9300h and 1660Ti. It did 99°C 86°C and throttled to 3.1~3.2Ghz. Applied on both CPU and GPU, now it does 95°C and 82°C and stays mostly at 4Ghz. Ambient is 30°C

[@BobOfAllTrades]

Are you running maximum fan/cooler boost button? If not then the fans would just scale to thermals. If you are running maximum fans and comparing temps then I’d start over. These chassis’s respond wonderfully to LM

[@cemsengul16]

Even that is fine though. You are no longer throttling.

[@pcwong97]

can you update the status of the liquid metal affecting the copper heatsink? I have a G7 7588 with i7-8750h and I am considering putting liquid metal in it. the only concern is the reaction between the liquid metal and the copper heatsink. and how often should I repaste with LM?

[@BobOfAllTrades]

I have a QnA video somewhere on the channel that shows a photo of a clients laptop that has LM on it over 1-2 years later and everything was great. Several 3rd party vendors offer LM upgrades when you purchase a laptop from them and they warranty their work. That’s a good sign. I have a few machines out in the wild with LM on them going strong but this laptop was sold off long ago.

[@pcwong97]

@@BobOfAllTrades thanks man !

[@TheLoLORZ]

Hi bob, I cant get K5 pro in my country, is it ok to use mastergel v2 pro on vrams like u ?

[@BobOfAllTrades]

You’ll need paste that’s designed for pad replacement.

[@jatinjindal2528]

Plz make a video on liquid metal application in Acer predator Helios 300 2019

[@PARTHBADKULBCI]

bro my cpu heat sink screw are stripped how should i unscrew them. I am stuck ;[

[@Carnage488]

What's that blue stuff on the vrms?

[@nova_boi2450]

Hey bob, I had a question- So my 1660ti in this laptop idles in the 50c range, and under load it hits 80-81c. I went to check in hwinfo and the "hot spot" on the gpu says 100c! From what i read online, 15-25c hotter on the hot spot is expected, but I was just curious if this is somewhat normal as it is a thinner laptop. Look forward to hearing from ya!

[@AJ-we9kd]

I don’t have any thermal paste, and just ordered LM. Are the issues associated with gpu LM application that bad, warranting a separate purchase? This would be my first paste job, laptop is an EVOO LP5 (like the mech-15).

[@BobOfAllTrades]

What guide will you be following to apply liquid metal? There needs to be some prep work and safety barriers created

[@AJ-we9kd]

@@BobOfAllTrades Tape+foam dam on both cpu and gpu. I have both 33+ and 88 tape. I will see which fits better the foam compresses to nothing, so I just need to check die clearance from what I understand. It’s probably not good for temps of the components next to the die but I guess I will have to cover them all up with tape. I think only the gpu has these, the cpu just has test points. Notebookreviews steered me away from using nail polish, members seem to think a “sealed” copper heatsink interface reduces oxidation. I haven’t looked up the reaction but I’m guessing it doesn’t involve oxygen. I trust first hand experiences though. It’s kind of sad a company like thermal grizzly doesn’t flat out explain copper heatsink prep and maintenance. Part of the net seems to want to speed up the alloy coating(multiple thin cooked on coatings), the other part wants to seal or sand to avoid the alloying of the copper. Everyone wants a set and forget super efficient TIM.

[@freezerain]

Bro I did LM on my GL73 8750h / 1660ti last week and then I found you video. I was VERY pacient with this process, and only difference is I use nail polish for isolation, LM on GPU and shitty 3 W/mk thermal paste that I got from local small shop for VRAM. And my temps are SUCK, they suck very hard and deep, they suck so hard that my ssd is trhotling on 75 degrees. Damn it is painfull to see how people is cool with LM and you got 95 degree on everything under the hood. I did some VERY thin layer of LM and now I am thinking that there are not enough pressure or some unevenes that causing such a bad thermals. Anyway it is fun to risk burning 1200 euros during experementations so I will order new LM tube, hydronaut for VRAM and will try again next week.

[@Liquid2142]

Omg j have a MSI GL65 Leopard 10SFK-062 15.6 with a I7 10750H & RTX 2070 180w gpu/230w total version, its basically a refreshing of an earlier 2020 model but wow MSI doesn't change crap with there cooling solution because besides that extra fin stack/exhaust the heatsink is the same as mine. And ive seen the same heatsink on lower end & some higher end ones then mine. The heatsink gets overwhelmed with my CPU and in fact im pretty sure my GPU is now dead after barley over a year of owning it. Almost maxe it two years

[@omeryolo]

Thank you for the video. Really informative and telling! I am planning on using LM for just the CPU in the near future for my MSI laptop. I wanted to ask if it's alright to just clean and use LM for CPU only. Is it alright to leave the factory applied thermal paste on the GPU part (even though we have unscrewed the cooling solution) and then screw it back in as it is ?(only the CPU part will be cleaned and then applied with LM)

[@BobOfAllTrades]

You’ll absolutely have to clean and repaste

[@omeryolo]

@@BobOfAllTrades Gotcha. Thank you for the prompt reply ^_^

[@omeryolo]

@@BobOfAllTrades just a small follow up question for this one. How many grams of LM would you recommend for the CPU part and how many grams of thermal paste for the GPU(if you are able to recall it considering this video is over a year old) if I am to be a bit stingy/cautious/budget conscious about any leftover ? I have an MSI GF 75 9SD with i7 9750h and GTX 1660ti (basically the same CPU and GPU as yours in the video)

[@BobOfAllTrades]

Muhammad Raza I’m not sure. I just put the correct amount based on what I see 👍

[@lyco5251]

​@@BobOfAllTrades Hi, did you ever have to replacement? Is there any temprature differences for a year? Thanks!

[@MrSandwichk]

ordered it for my gl63. fkin $30 for just a gram. Is it necessary to clean and reapply paste on VRAM?

[@anhiirr]

you can put a regular cpu paste on the VRAM imo....plus i wouldnt try to tape/make an ideal setting for applying liquid metal to vram....id say def yes though......bc the 1660ti in this runs fairly cool even under max load....this paste on the vram is a large contributor im sure.

[@MrSandwichk]

@@anhiirr yeah, the 1660 ti runs cool but the CPU keeps hitting above 95°C but the conductonaut dream never came true. Delivery was cancelled due to Coronavirus lockdown and now its available nowhere. fk.

[@anhiirr]

@@MrSandwichk trust i run max coolerboost when gaming.....in all games.....and a cooling pad........and a -135-150 undervolt.......and i get 95% of my games to run

[@dopeshope4976]

Hey bob! The fan cables 2 thin ones and that large one on my laptop are way too tight, and I'm afraid that I might break them. What do I do?

[@shivanshusingh7942]

Use pry tools and giggle them sideways

[@Hitmonkey420]

Looks fairly similar to the ge75 chassis. Could you use this as a rough guide to liquid metal that model? Obviously it's not the exact machine so I know you can't say yes definitely but as far as protected the surrounding areas? More or less don't be an idiot and pay attention? I'm really wanting your performace figures from your hidevolution raider video

[@safwaniqbal5282]

Hey Bob, love your work . You really put your time and effort in your videos. Just a quick question for you or anyone who can help, is it really safe to use Non Conductive Thermal Paste like Arctic MX-4 or Kryonaut on VRAMs and surrounding ICs? Does it have any side effect whatsoever? if not short term may be after few months?

[@BobOfAllTrades]

I prefer pads for easy maintenance but some manufacturers use paste on many of those components.

[@safwaniqbal5282]

Yes you right ! Pads are better. But I need to LM my GP75 Leopard and it already has Paste on VRMs. So I want to copy your method and apply TIM on them. Did some research, the material MSI uses is not exactly Thermal Paste it is more like Liquid Thermal Pads sold by the name K-50 or K-60. So I was just worried, is using Kryonaut or Arctic MX-4 safe ? It wont have any problems in the long run right? Thank you again for your reply !! Really appreciate.

[@johndenver9961]

@@safwaniqbal5282 Using Kryonaut on the VRAMs and ICs is definitely safe. I've worked on more laptops than I can count that came from the factory with thermal paste on the VRAMs and ICs. As mentioned it is not ideal, because it is messy. But, it is perfectly safe for the components.

[@thunderlight8362]

Can anyone tell me the thickness of the thermal pads for msi gl63

[@thunderlight8362]

​@@johndenver9961Please help me sir

[@dmerc112]

full review coming soon? deciding between this and lenovo y545

[@dmerc112]

@Isaiah Barrett Yeah thanks, the costco y545 still a better deal right now over anything on the lenovo site even on sale.

[@CJ-fo2zz]

Hi Bob, do you recommend repasting it tho not with liquid metal? I have noctua nt-h1

[@BobOfAllTrades]

If the laptop was just recently built by the manufacturer then new thermal paste might not do much.

[@hidan9402]

If you were to replace the thermal pad on the cpu side, what thickness would you use?

[@BobOfAllTrades]

Hi Dan not sure I didn’t look. MSI factory pads have been solid and placed well.

[@hidan9402]

@@BobOfAllTrades I was hoping to replace mine since It gotten a rip from removing the heatsink 😭

[@thaNZdon]

Hi Bob! Firstly let me say your content is top notch and I always appreciate your thorough and professional break downs of everything you produce. GG. 2nd - I have just purchased a MSI GL75 9SD (9750h + 1660 Ti Variant). It came with the 19.5v 180w Slim power adapter and I was wondering if purchasing the 20v 280w that comes native with the RTX variant would be of benefit and provide performance gains? Many thanks, Matt- NZ

[@BobOfAllTrades]

Unfortunately it won’t make a performance difference.

[@aaradhya2158]

I've recently changed my acer predator helios 300's thermal paste, Stock to kryonaut. It now runs at around 75 cpu and 68 GPU without cranking up the fans it has a smaller heat pipe arrangement. And even clocks higher at 4 ghz with i5 9300h processor with 1660 ti graphics can anybody explain me why does this run at same temperature even with larger heat dissipation system and even with liquid metal applied

[@Alkyonne]

Can I apply the same for my MSI GE63-9SF? Is the chassis similar?

[@FadhlyHamzah]

Bob, is liquid metal safe on copper IHS? I just watched gamers nexus on LM corrosive and there's no accurate information for the long term period.

[@MrJosevintem]

LM is corrosive on aluminium... on copper is safe

[@khaledkandil5920]

Why didn't you just review the laptop first (out the factory) and then put liquid metal

[@amirbahalegharn365]

the game at the end shows it all....the cpu hits 3999ghz and it's cooler around 5-10'c;as for the wattage,it's also less,not sure if it's undervolted or not.

[@BobOfAllTrades]

I already have the stock game footage necessary for that part of the review 👍

[@Zu33s]

Does repasting an msi void the warranty?

[@ericachen3361]

What is the most recommended thermal paste?

[@tchrmart1n]

I see that you have also limited the Turbo Boost Power Max to 40W on the right hand side. So i'm guessing that with stock power settings you're getting 5 degrees improvement with liquid metal.

[@BobOfAllTrades]

I don’t recall making any adjustments to that.

[@tchrmart1n]

@@BobOfAllTrades I might be mistaken🥺love your work

[@YamiAnubisX]

If I put Liquid metal on laptop with kapton tape around the pcb and it still overheated but the lm didn't leak out, is it cause of too much tape? Would be laptop not be working, if Liquid metal landed on any part of the pcb basically? Cause it still works, so I took all the LM off and tape

[@BobOfAllTrades]

On this laptop? You should have some legendary temperatures. You want the thinnest layer possible on the PCB that’s why I recommend 33+ as it can withstand the heat it’s rated for it and it’s thin

[@YamiAnubisX]

@@BobOfAllTrades sorry that I didn't put my question out correctly but I had liquid metal on my laptop and it still got hot to the point where it got to the start screen and everything and shut off, if it still boots up, does it mean that's good? Does liquid metal basically turn a laptop into a brick basically? If it landed on the pcb?

[@anandb2729]

@@YamiAnubisX The metal thermal paste are good conductors of electricity basically which means they short the pcb resulting in dead or fire up 🔥 your laptop

[@YamiAnubisX]

@@anandb2729 I tested it back in August of 2018 and fucked my 1200 dollar laptop that my grandma is still paying off, only 400 dollars to go. But it is not in the least a viable solution to keep anything cool as it can still fuck up everything. I'm not ever using that shit again. No one should be suggesting people to use liquid metal no matter what.

[@Garrett1974]

Aren't you "scared" that the liquid metal spills over and touches the aluminum part of the cooler? (the triangle shaped part next to the copper 'inlay' that touches the CPU) Because liquid metal would eat through that really fast... Or maybe you could tape the edges off... I don't know...

[@liviup6660]

Yet....another masterpiece by bob!👌

[@талтинов]

how long are you going to use Liquid Metal ? i heard it works 4-6 months and then it works worse and worse because metal starts to solidify... metal not so good works with copper

[@BobOfAllTrades]

I’ve had Metal on laptops for many years. I have a few out in the wild that I have sold that are going strong today as well.

[@талтинов]

​@@BobOfAllTrades did you use a laptop with metal more then one year ? didnt you change metal and didnt have problems with temperature? what did you use Liquid Metal , name ?

[@BobOfAllTrades]

виталий логинов You can order LM applications from 3 party vendors when you buy a laptop from them. If LM was an issue they wouldn’t do it and they definitely wouldn’t warranty it. I have machines out in the wild going strong for well over a year.

[@талтинов]

@@BobOfAllTrades i think i cant . can you tell me name LM ? Coollaboratory or Thermal Grizzly maybe something else ?

[@shivanshusingh7942]

Hey can i use thermal pads on vrams instead of thermal paste?

[@Garrett1974]

You could, but they would have to be really thin, otherwise the CPU and GPU parts of the whole cooler MIGHT not make (good) contact because you're lifting them up, because of the thermal pads.

[@Ballingcat45]

Can you repaste the asus zephyrus M Gu502gu? I have one but the insides are a bit confusing

[@BobOfAllTrades]

surreal taco That would require me buying one and that’s not on my list sorry

[@Ballingcat45]

@@BobOfAllTrades understandable. Its stupidly overpriced especially for the 1660ti variant

[@Ballingcat45]

@@BobOfAllTrades but do you know another channel that might be able to do one?

[@BobOfAllTrades]

surreal taco Not many buy laptops and tear them down like it do, if at all.

[@Ballingcat45]

@@BobOfAllTrades I know Jarrods tech does a few but it's rare. He also said his unit was lost in Australia or something like that

[@pedroewert143]

People should not be exessivly worried about LM shorting something. In some videos you see some kind of LM grains and dust scattered over the mobo but those things are so tiny that they are not large enough to reach two parts simultaneously to short something.

[@EpicBunty]

not true, they can easily settle between two transistors and short them out.

[@josemarimercado6]

sir can you make a video for repasting helios 300 2019 and cleaning its fans

[@BobOfAllTrades]

No sorry that laptop is long gone. Tear down on that thing is about as easy as they come

[@c0ffee366]

Nice video. Why do you not liquid métal the GPU ? (I have a GE73)

[@c0ffee366]

Oh ok I tape the message and you answer it in your video 😅

[@bryanwashere5010]

That thing still uses 18650 lithium batteries! You could technically fix that battery with ease. I bet you wish you could populate and solder 2 more gigs if VRAM into those blank slots on your board. This model must have come with a GPU option in an 8gb configuration.

[@andrewaani9530]

Hi Bob, have you ever used liquid metal on both the GPU and CPU in a laptop?

[@BobOfAllTrades]

Yes but I do not recommend it. Successful prep work for the GPU is hard and impossible sometimes. The risk is not worth the reward. If you’re wanting the best thermal performance I suggest undervolting the GPU and tuning the CPU.

[@andrewaani9530]

@@BobOfAllTrades what are the problems you encountered while doing the GPU? I really want to expand my knowledge on this because i always love to optimise laptops 😁

[@BobOfAllTrades]

@@andrewaani9530 a dead gpu

[@Lightsout565x]

Bob, how many watts was the 1660 Ti using? Is this a Max-Q variant? The 1660 Ti looks like a great laptop GPU that provides sufficient FPS while not producing an excessive amount of heat for these thin and light laptop chasis. Not surprising the 6 core 9750H produces insane amounts heat.

[@BobOfAllTrades]

That’s a question that will get answered in the review

[@EpicBunty]

how can a TI be a max q ?

[@ajithjanardanan3981]

@bobofalltrades Hows ur laptop after 1 year now ??

[@BobOfAllTrades]

I sell purchased laptops for review.

[@ajithjanardanan3981]

@@BobOfAllTrades So udk how Ur liquid metal cooled laptop is later how to trust it then pls help ...

[@ki949]

its affecting voltage...how??

[@Christensen1511]

Hi! how much time ill need for put more liquid metal?

[@BobOfAllTrades]

Christian Andrés Are you asking how often does liquid metal need replacement? It doesn’t.

[@mepogiyoupanget]

Hi Bob thanks for another great video. Please make some video about upcoming amazon prime day deals.

[@BobOfAllTrades]

Thanks! I’ll try, but it’s all about timing. Summer is very busy for me since I have my kids out of school in addition to working 7 days per my usual lifestyle.

[@nori6237]

Yeah, if the gpu didn't pass 85 after repasting, then i think it didn't really worth to do it with liquid metal... The risk is also much higher there, since there are some transistors near the gpu die...

[@BobOfAllTrades]

Noob Gamer It doesn’t pass 73 with stock paste 👍

[@looker5354]

Does nobody know that you apply the liquid metal to the copper of the heatsink. It is porus and absorbs the liquid when you work it in. Just cover the area relative to the cpu. Turn the heatsink upright away from the mobo, bring it over and lower down. I mean the cpu die is a mirror Ehhh!

[@KennyNiii]

How is the laptop after several months?

[@BobOfAllTrades]

Kenny Nguyen Not sure had to sell to cover more stuff 👍

[@timofaust1315]

Excellent job. I wish companies would sell laptops only with the best cooling solutions available. Longer life expectancy, less returns and repairs, silent and cool. Some laptops save money in the wrong places.

[@oscarshen6855]

Why the CPU powerdraw is much lower on the right side?

[@BobOfAllTrades]

Because you caught a small clip of real gameplay and not some cheesy benchmark 👍

[@al151]

Bob I recommend the CM Master Maker Nano Gel. Got amazing results. It seems to be the best after liquid metal. Temps down from 98 to 78 degrees.

[@mali5469]

How about longevity? Does it still perform well? Regular desktop paste usually pumps out or loses effectiveness over time on laptops

[@stuttergamer9775]

That grease on the VRMs was not ordinary thermal paste that you would just put on the CPU/GPU. Its a thick thermal grease which works like a thermal pad. You should've put the K5 Pro Vicious Thermal Grease over there instead of the ordinary thermal paste. It's there for a reason :D Anyway, thanks a lot for the video, it's a great learning experience!

[@BobOfAllTrades]

K5 is great! I need to order some more thanks for the comment 👍

[@DavidArcher76]

This works so well couldn't play assassin's creed odyssey without temperature bouncing off 100c and serious throttling. Now it runs about 75c at full clocks without the max fan. It will be better in everything else cause ACO was the hottest

[@davidcollins465]

I am curious what program do you use for getting the CPU and GPU temps show while you are gaming?

[@thegrowl2210]

Its MSI afterburner, think Bob’s done a vid on it a while back

[@ADunleavy]

Your first amazon link is broken.

[@BobOfAllTrades]

This is such an old video I’m not surprised.

[@ADunleavy]

@@BobOfAllTrades True, also how risky is it to put liquid metal into your laptop?

[@aceclarksatx]

Electronic cleaner, which an aerosol would be much easier BTW buddy.

[@TheyCallMeContra]

Would you accept pay to do this to my GL63?