MSI GL65 Teardown and thermal paste replacement

[@shenardosmith6657]

Could you make a video upgrading the ram and storage?

[@jintongzou4676]

I will suggest you to remove the battery at first before you remove other parts in the laptop will be better. I have seen some cases that users forget to remove the battery before they remove the heatsink that causes the motherboard damage.

[@themadatheist1976]

I have to try twisting my HS/F, I gave up after fearing I might rip off a component. This is the 1st time trying to remove a HS/F assembly with that many pads sticking to it and felt as it was glued in place.

[@dev_43__]

Hi is screws on heatsink really need to tighten that much? there is numbers in heatsink i think that how many times need to be tighten screws. when i follow that numbers now my cpu and gpu temperature is more stable now.

[@BrownZak]

Good to know ! thank you , i repaste my cpu recently with a cooler master TP, but i noticed that the temp is much hotter i will check that too.

[@gehx]

I like how you peace out yet kept recording!! :) Thanks for this video!

[@themadatheist1976]

Interesting your m.2 slot being used is the location that just has the m.2 pads on mine. My m.2 is horizontal towards the front, below the RAM, under the black paper cover. I'm planning on installing the 2nd m.2 once I source the parts.

[@rickstechrepairs]

that space under the ram, certainly has enough space for the m.2 Does your laptop has 2 m.2 slots?

[@themadatheist1976]

@@rickstechrepairs @Ricks Tech No, I only have the pads for it, MSI didn't populate that area. I watched your video on a phone and looked like there was a covering like what is being used on the RAM over that area. Must be just the PCB then. Yes that area is where I have my m.2 located. The spot you have yours populated is where they only have pads but left the connector, coupler capacitors, and the hold down stud off. I'll solder on the components once I get them. My laptop shipped with a 10th gen i7 with the 115w 2060, 1TB HDD, 512GB nvme, and 2x Samsung 3200 running at 2933.

[@themadatheist1976]

@@rickstechrepairs my laptop model number is 10SEK-022, bought a couple of months ago.

[@themadatheist1976]

@@rickstechrepairs Just finished soldering on the m.2 connector and the other supporting components last month, the mod fully works, and the BIOS already was ready for the 2nd m.2. Check the HardOCP forums under the SSD & Data storage section, titled "Dear MSI, thank you for leaving the solder pads", since KZbin deleted my link. I'm go by the same user name. Threw in a 2TB drive for just my games. The 1st attempt was with a solder iron and I melted the m.2 connector. Had to order a reflow gun and low melt solder for the 2nd attempt. I would recommend people to add the connector 1st, then the 8 tiny 0201 coupling capacitors last. Also order double since they can easily be lost.

[@Led.on.YouTube]

Are those heatsinks copper?

[@RmG1]

Кто подскажите что это за квадратики на 2:22 (и розовые квадратики)? Они у меня тоже жидкие стали. Нужно поменять, но я не знаю что это такое? Who can tell me what are these squares at 2:22 (and pink squares)? They also became liquid. I need to change, but I don't know what it is?

[@theamestrian2953]

Been wanting to change the thermal paste for a gl65 i7 10750 and rtx 2070 super that i use at work, not much load but while rendering scanned 3d models peaks at 96° and on idle goes to 65° more or less. The gpu mas temp is like 70 and on idle like 50. Hope that it will have better thermals after changing the thermal paste. Thanks mate. Stay awesome people

[@vikas_katla]

What model is it msi GL 65 has many models Is it MSI GL 65 10 SEK

[@timmacdonald5363]

Perfect man thanks for the vid. I have the same laptop abd bought in 2020, didnt open it once till now. The fans were caked with dust and the thermal paste was so sloppyly applied. I think it ran cpu temps of 96 while gaming and now after cleaning it all up and applying new thermal paste max ive gotten is 76

[@rickstechrepairs]

great to hear you have sorted out your laptop

[@MrKtm03]

can you upgrade the RAM on this laptop? and how many RAM slots does it have? thanks

[@rickstechrepairs]

Yes you can, it has two slots

[@lockedine]

If my thermal paste on the gpu is not making complete squish out to the edges does that mean my 1mm pads are too big and I should use 0.5mm?

[@lockedine]

Uhhh I stopped using thermal pads temps were way worse went to all paste

[@rickstechrepairs]

im not sure on pad sizes sorry, paste away (aslong as its not liquid metal)

[@magicdeaths]

this or asus 505dt ??? difference is amd 3750h instead of intel 9300h and overall design/build. seems like this might have better cooling

[@rickstechrepairs]

I will agree with you. Getting my hands on a 505dt next could of days and will benchmark

[@magicdeaths]

@@rickstechrepairs nice . great review btw hope the channel grows

[@xy11xy]

@@rickstechrepairs Hi Rick, did you disconnect the battery? How easy are the batteries to replace on this model of MSI? What about the hinges? I have the GL75. Will this laptop work with no battery and just AC power?

[@cactusmccoy3122]

Does it share the same configuration for the bottom panel with the msi gs65 9sc-041x? Mine has 256gb of M.2 SSD in it.

[@rickstechrepairs]

cant comment on that one, but being similar ages machines, i would expect them to have a similar setup

[@noamanhigazy6287]

What specific type of 8gb ram stick should I buy for a dual channel?

[@rickstechrepairs]

Open the laptop and double check prior to purchase Or install cpuz and check ram sort first

[@noamanhigazy6287]

@@rickstechrepairs I didn't buy the laptop yet 😅 If you still have the laptop and could help me I would be grateful to you. I don't even know what should I look for in the CpuZ 😀

[@rickstechrepairs]

@@noamanhigazy6287 it's my current laotop. I can check tomorrow or the next day

[@noamanhigazy6287]

@@rickstechrepairs Great! Many Thanks 😃

[@ryantoomey611]

You get the RAM part number by clicking on the "SPD" tab in CPU-Z. According to CPU-Z the part number of the original RAM in my machine was M471A1K43CB1 made by Samsung. I was able to find that identical RAM stick on Amazon for $31. I just installed it today and I am happy to report CPU-Z now shows 16gb of RAM and they are both running at the full speed of 2666mhz. It even matches the label on the original RAM stick of s7c-s68c803-s02 which is the MSI part number. When installing there is a black plastic film that you have to peel back in order to get access to the RAM slot.

[@Klav1eR]

Hello, from your experience, how is the new GL65 thermal performance. It is very hard to obtain GL65 thermal data. There is GE63 which I believe has the exact same cooling apparatus (cooler boost 5), but the performance is a bit underwhelming compared to what Triton 500 with smaller chassis can do. Is it any good?

[@Klav1eR]

Im about to place my order in GL65, wish me luck

[@rolf1225]

@@Klav1eR well how's the thermal performance?

[@Gabriel-Puia]

@@rolf1225 good... i have a rtx 2060 and i7 9750h and playing red dead redemption 2 at max the temperature is like 70 degrees celcius on cpu and a bit lower on gpu .. the down side is that its very loud but i dont mind it

[@seanh6179]

@@Gabriel-Puia mine is weird. I have 1660 ti and 9750h, and the CPU is always thermal throttling at 95c!!! Even when playing standard games like PUBG on minimum settings…

[@demiserofd]

@@seanh6179 Could be a factory thermal paste failure. Sometimes something goes wrong and the paste is poorly placed or not placed at all. Might open her up and check. It could also be bad fan settings. Bump it up from Auto to advanced, perhaps.

[@widisiraf]

Hi, great video, could you tell me the size of those thermal pads? 1.0mm or 0.5mm? Thanks a bunch

[@rickstechrepairs]

Dont have anymore to check

[@widisiraf]

@@rickstechrepairs oh alright

[@RmG1]

@@rickstechrepairs i dont speek eng pls 1.0mm or 0.5mm?

[@darryndad]

Hi Ricks Tech Repairs, When I pull up the heat pipe and a little bit twist... I feel difficult to pull it up... any suggestions/advice?

[@rickstechrepairs]

once you have undone the screws, try to rotate the heatsink clockwise, then pull up

[@devinworstell3375]

What was that white paste on the near by pads

[@rickstechrepairs]

thermal paste i would be guessing

[@justussypierre1110]

Which model GL65 is this? I have the leopard with the 2060

[@rickstechrepairs]

GL65 Thin 10UE kzbin.info/aero/PLDqQvgPNjY2nADxDDrrCJckdL4VlDoAh9

[@trixxrg]

I would to buy this laptop, but i don’t know if it’s too heavy or bulky, compared to an gif 65. Can you suggest something?

[@kmshairstay]

Hi there! On mine the little squares have a different white paste on them... should I replace that paste with thermal as well?

[@rickstechrepairs]

yah, that would just be different kind of thermal paste, i would replace that also

[@kmshairstay]

@@rickstechrepairs Oh dang, I already sealed it up, maybe I will next time. your video really helped tho!

[@DimitrisDadoulis]

i got msi gp65 looks like vrms doesnt use thermal padsto mine but a paste, we can use any thermal paste there? also i heard we can use k5-pro, or better switch to thermal pads but with what dimensions?

[@rickstechrepairs]

if it had thermal paste, it should be fine to reapply paste there

[@hatty101]

msi gf65 pls? thermal paste change and keyborad clenan

[@rickstechrepairs]

Don't have that laptop

[@hatty101]

@@rickstechrepairs ok thnx

[@quastor10]

What thickness are these thermopads ??? i have to change mine

[@rickstechrepairs]

no idea sorry

[@greyscale4482]

I would like to know as well since my laptop did not have those 'pads'.

[@andreastheodorou8043]

is it true that This laptop produces noise during intensive tasks such as gaming? how long does battery lasts? how good is the sound?

[@rickstechrepairs]

All gaming laptops get loud Battery is fine 2-4 hours Speakers are ok, not great not terrible

[@1Stunna2323]

My mans did not even bother to disconnect the battery. Instead he disconnected the audio on the last half of his video.

[@rickstechrepairs]

Cheers

[@Inflatableorc]

That looked like a lot of paste, did you take thermals pre and post re paste? what was your temp drop?

[@rickstechrepairs]

Didn't take pre and post temps sorry

[@Inflatableorc]

@@rickstechrepairs no worries just curious

[@Jun-ny9cy]

I got the same laptop. What are those white small white squares around the GPU or CPU?

[@rahul3111]

Those are voltage regulators for CPU and GPU, they also need active cooling, you can see the thermal pads on the heatsink for those.

[@aradhyajain6682]

I have a MSI GL65 9SDK, I want to undervolt the the system because it's reaching mid 90°C while gaming. It's only 8 months old so I don't think it needs re-pasting. Please guide me through the mV values for this particular laptop / chassis

[@rickstechrepairs]

I haven't done undervolting, I would suggest for you to watch I general guide for the 9300

[@aradhyajain6682]

@@rickstechrepairs Thanks a lot for replying. Okay I'll check that out. P.s. I have watched this particular video numerous times. It's so satisfying, whatsoever. 😀

[@WeeDZart]

Bro, my cpu is getting 90•C when gaming, its that because the thermal paste??

[@aradhyajain6682]

@@WeeDZart how old is your machine?

[@WeeDZart]

Aradhya Jain 9 months, i tried to throttlestop its increase the fps lil bit tho but not reduce the temp.

[@alisherkawi]

what did he use to rub off that old paste? was it rubbing alcohol or acetone ?

[@rickstechrepairs]

Isopropyl alcohol

[@Fargyy]

So you don't have to remove any cables to get to the cpu? I'm way to nervous to remove any ribbon cables

[@rickstechrepairs]

Ribbon cables are fine Ribbon cables don't cross over the heatsink

[@CSGhostAnimation]

I'm modeling a heatsink for one of my animation videos, and jesus fucking christ this thing has so much cooling compared to an iGPU laptop. It's insane.

[@rickstechrepairs]

haha, there is a cooper pipes going everywhere ay

[@shivabisht8023]

That common for Gaming Laptop

[@EnforcedPolicy]

What Jesus **** christ? Why do you say that

[@ScootZMedia]

What if 1 fan gone bad what do?

[@rickstechrepairs]

Remove heatsink and replace the dead/dieing fan

[@ScootZMedia]

@@rickstechrepairs i know but i wasnt sure it could be removed since it looks like the heatsync is attached

[@linregalian7979]

Can I ask whether the thermal pads are 0.5 mm or 1mm?

[@rickstechrepairs]

im not sure sorry, i no longer have the laptop

[@DrMrPersonGuy]

@@rickstechrepairs why don’t you have it? Did something go wrong with it?

[@galaxyjballer9642]

Do u have the answer for your question?

[@quastor10]

did you find out what size they are? because i need to replace it too

[@fhf17]

what ssd type does it have exactly and what storage options i can apply becuase im running out of storage quick and i was searching for storage but i was wondering if it where possible to put another ssd or a hard drive or something, id like a response please and thank you if u do.

[@rickstechrepairs]

Either install a brand new Nvme m.2 ssd or add in a 2.5" SSD/HDD and expand yourt storage from there

[@kevingallineauii9353]

Weird, I just had to remove the HSF to clean the HS fins (clogged with dust, the laptop was running really hot). I have extra inductors and my GPU was different (GTX 1660 Ti). I had some weird pink thermal pads on the chokes near the CPU. Removing and replacing the paste was a pain but my computer runs cool now.

[@rickstechrepairs]

excellent to read you have sorted it out !

[@EnforcedPolicy]

The old past cause it to stick. I can't remove the heatsink

[@rickstechrepairs]

let it run for a bit before trying to take the cooler off when you do go to take the cooler off, try and twist it rather than pull towards you

[@rommelrdz3391]

can you help me , is there a way to change the graphics processor that this laptop are using instead of intel i wan to use nvidia? (every thing is updated on my laptop done several trouble shooting but nothing works) there is an option on the control panel but even you change it its not actually changing to nvidia processor it still chooses the intel graphics processor, on the bios there is no option to choose nvidia for the display .. thanks you

[@rickstechrepairs]

Hi sorry, i dont have too much advice to offer on that one apart from reinstalling drivers

[@Daichko]

Maybe I'm late, but it might be helpful for those, who read it now or in future Plugging laptop in was helpful for me Found in google that it is energy-saving strategy, because accumulator that is used for laptop when it's unplugged isn't able to provide gpu with enough energy, so gpu is turned off automatically, I explored it when my gaming perfomance was low when laptop is unplugged (games didn't "see" the gpu), and high when it's plugged in (then games "seen" the gpu)

[@xx-shredder69]

can you show as how to add ssd to this laptop

[@rickstechrepairs]

It should come from the factory with a m.2 SSD already installed

[@xx-shredder69]

and an internal extra sshd

[@xx-shredder69]

What i mean is that i want to add another sshd to that laptop and i didnt now how???

[@rickstechrepairs]

@@xx-shredder69 it has a 2.5 data HDD slot available

[@xx-shredder69]

Actually no need to ifound it thanks

[@hippopotamus86]

Those thinking of replacing the paste, it's really not worth it unless the laptop is 5 or 6 years old, even then, depends on how much it has been used.

[@rickstechrepairs]

Certainly helpful to drop the temp 5 o C On a much older machine you would get a better temp drop

[@bearded_toad]

It's still a good practive to clean the cooling system and replace the paste every year or so, in my experience, a 5 year old laptop will have its radiators completely clogged with dust, hair and other stuff

[@paulnoel8470]

I have a GL65 and I had relatively high temperature, the thermal paste application was very bad and the paste completely dry. Changing it is definetly helpful

[@mzaid007]

The factory paste is shit man, I got 15° drop, used Gelid GC Extreme.

[@archer_erwin4874]

Are you crazy? You forgot move the battery!!!

[@lockedine]

I just did mine while the battery was in and it was still turned on

[@austinconstantino5607]

I just got one of these laptops today. I pulled the bottom cover off to upgrade the RAM. When reassembling the bottom case, I can not get the case to line up and snap into place right below the track pad. In your video it doesn't look like that part of your case snapped back into place either. Have you noticed any issues with that?

[@rickstechrepairs]

No I haven't noticed any issues , it did snap back in to place at that point just need to use a bit of force I have since sold this machine

[@austinconstantino5607]

@@rickstechrepairs I got it on there. Just had to use some force like you said. Thank you!

[@rickstechrepairs]

great to hear :D

[@mahadzahid6524]

I have the same problem, the back lid near the touchpad isn't aligned with the front case and it leaves a gap near the touchpad, could you please tell me in detail how u managed to get rid of the gap ?

[@SonyDashPie]

@@mahadzahid6524 I have that too, I tried many times and couldn't fix it. I think some plastic hinge might broke... More cooling vent I suppose?

[@morganscott8535]

For some reason on mine, all the vrms and areas with thermal pads have no thermal pads, and instead have this thick crusty white paste, any idea what size thermal pads I need? Or should I just use some thermal paste on the vrms since that seems to be what's been done for some reason? I can email a pic

[@rickstechrepairs]

I no longer have this laptop, I would aim for thermal pads, If paste is currently being used then I would go with 0.5cm pads

[@galaxyjballer9642]

How you clean the white paste on vrms anf areas? Is it same like clean cpu & gpu?

[@morganscott8535]

@@galaxyjballer9642 Sorry im just now getting back to you, yes, after alot of research it turns out its Viscous Thermal Paste for the VRMs and chipset, you have to replace it with new viscous paste, i used K5 PRO Viscous Thermal Paste which you can find on amazon. i dont know what size pads it would take, but in summary, yes you clean it off just like the cpu and gpu but it requires Viscous Thermal Paste to be put back on them all, and be generous with the paste too, look up a video if you need to :) best of luck!

[@galaxyjballer9642]

@@morganscott8535 thank you for the answer sir!!! But is it okay if i change that to thermal pads?

[@galaxyjballer9642]

What % alcohol you use to clean the old paste

[@TheDutchTango]

Does anybody have a clue on how to remove the keyboard on this model? I have to remove a keyboard because a customer dropped a glass of cola over it and now some of the keys stick and its not functioning (miraculously there is no damage to the motherboard...) I can't figure out how to remove the keyboard assembly from the case, it seems like it's kept in place by some melted tabs. Any help on this is much appreciated, I have everything disassembled and hope to have it replaced ASAP, I only have the new keyboard and backlight without a frame so I have to reuse the old one.

[@rickstechrepairs]

Melted tabs would be how it's in place Alot of keyboard that push up through the bottom are now plastic welded in place They are a hitch of a job to do and take around an hour to 2 to do Did on last week on a different model but same style of keyboard

[@TheDutchTango]

@@rickstechrepairs that sucks... Do you have a video or a description on how to undo these melted tabs? I was thinking on removing the melted parts and glueing them back in place when I installed the new keyboard. Thanks for your reply!

[@yousifabdalhalim514]

Could you make your cam a bit closer?, it is hard to see what exactly you're doing...

[@rickstechrepairs]

Noted for future videos

[@Iqbalytind]

Is it safe without removing the battery ??

[@rickstechrepairs]

I don't see if being a issue but if you want to be on the good side of caution, disconnect it

[@nerale]

Is it gtx 1650 or 1660ti or 2060?

[@toxicmuscularity]

1650ti

[@Pahuitosss]

Does it matter which termal paste i use?

[@rickstechrepairs]

there is different quality thermal paste, so it does to a point I normally use Artic Silver

[@Pahuitosss]

@@rickstechrepairs i have an old paste in a syringe. I dont Know the brand. You recomend me to buy a new one and a good brand ? Does itnreally makes a differenfe ?

[@rickstechrepairs]

if its only unknown brand, i would purchase some new brand named stuff if you already have your machine apart put the old paste in there for now but replace asap

[@Pahuitosss]

@@rickstechrepairs Thank you ! ! Have a greatt day!

[@aik64g]

Exactly what im looking for👍

[@nerale]

whats the type of thermal paste is it?

[@nerale]

is it deepcool z3?

[@nerale]

or z9?

[@rickstechrepairs]

Close Z5

[@videographyservice6135]

Please make a video installing an internal ssd and upgrading the ram. Thank you!

[@rickstechrepairs]

already have, check out the channel

[@kevmalaga1872]

Hi Rick I have a similar laptop, msi gl65 9sd i7 9750h gtx1660ti, I just bought it a week ago. In games that are not very demanding (Dota2, Battlerite) the CPU has reached 93 ° C, an average of 87 ° C, and because the keyboard feels very hot, and even with the fans playing at maximum, temperatures do not drop. I wanted to ask you if before doing the thermal paste replacement, did you consult msi support if that does not affect the warranty? I don't know if to do it, for now I try to see the correct way to do the undervolt, although I don't know if I should do it to both the CPU and the GPU. And well, I have not found reference data for the undervolt of this model :D

[@rickstechrepairs]

Hi With the new thermal paste, i didnt contact msi, as the warranty sticker isn't valid here in australia. undervolting may help but its something i havent looked at doing

[@kevmalaga1872]

@@rickstechrepairs How much did the CPU and GPU temperatures fall after changing the thermal paste? I am seriously thinking about doing it, since I have achieved less temperatures than I mentioned before, but turning on the Cooler Boost 5 since before opening the games, the problem is excessive noise. Do you recommend a thermal paste with more thermal conductivity? I've seen brands like Artic MX-4 and CoolerMaster Extreme Fusion X1 With 8.5 and 9.5 W/mK

[@kevmalaga1872]

By the way, I had not noticed, I do not know if in my case I also have the chipset with thermal pads, if it were not the case, could I put thermal paste? Or should I buy thermal pads?

[@nerale]

Kev Málaga hi dude, i have GL65 9SEK (9750h+2060) in all games w/out turbo boost temp of the cpu is around 80-82•C in turbo mode, gpu is around 70-72•C

[@nerale]

I just did an UV -0,12v

[@IvanNava]

I have the 2020 variant, the graphics card was totally caked in thermal paste lol

[@randysamayoa9374]

Im getting mine tomorrow. Are you saying the card got so hot it cracked ?

[@IvanNava]

@@randysamayoa9374 no it just had a lot of thermal paste on the graphics card, other than that it's fine

[@cbh148]

I've had my MSI GL65 (RTX2070) for about a month now, and it's been consistently reaching 208 F (98 C) even when propped up for maximum airflow at the vents. Curious to know if yours was improved when you re-pasted it. Also, what was the manufacturing date on yours? The sticker on the bottom of mine (near the hinge) shows 2020/04, so I'm assuming mine is caked with the factory paste like yours was.

[@comrademonolith5421]

@@IvanNava I'm going on three months with my 2020 model, and I get 85°C on the CPU and 70°C on the GPU with it on a table, but I also get 80°C/65°C propped up on a garbage cooler pad from Amazon. Lol. I just pulled up to Micro Center, so I'm hoping to see some sort of improvements. ≈5°C sounds about right tbh.

[@digyant9500]

Hey rick, I

[@digyant9500]

What would you say about the thickness of the pads based on your expertise and knowledge?

[@rickstechrepairs]

No longer have the machine to check sorry

[@mrdread_]

Have you found pads thickness? (Green and pink) I have ordered 1.5 mm, and they seem to be too thick.

[@ukrainianultranationalist4366]

Thank you man I could not fine one

[@lesliechow3793]

thanks to this 'professional', i followed every step, including not taking out the battery, smh. now it wont turn on

[@rickstechrepairs]

sorry for your bad experience

[@lawrencenjnj2865]

Cool vid, but should have used thermal grizzly kryonaut and also re apply it on the ram modules

[@rickstechrepairs]

i would skip putting any kind of thermal paste/grease on ram

[@saulandrespadillacarvajal7812]

Can you upgrade the HDD on this laptop? How many slots does it have?

[@rickstechrepairs]

I found the m.2 which is filled and a spare 2.5" drive

[@saulandrespadillacarvajal7812]

I didn’t quite get what you said, can you please say yes or no? Mb bro

[@rickstechrepairs]

yes

[@deanslegos1990]

Lol

[@kyutzymike]

@@saulandrespadillacarvajal7812 on the right side of the screen u see the gold L shape, that's the spare slot for 2.5 sata. And you have also for m.2 SSD.