Ban List Damage Report Dec 9 2024 - Burnt Fire Bridges and Top Tier Potentials!

They literally burned the bridge of Fire Decks. No more Sinful Spoils for you.
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[@ralman88]

Honestly the way they dropped the banlist was pretty cool, they should start doing stuff like this after major events. Like dropping new product, banlist etc.

[@TCGTONY95]

Felt like a WWE skit

[@kizoaoy7423]

​@@TCGTONY95 Jerome was about to cash in the money in the bank suitcase 😂

[@TCGTONY95]

@@kizoaoy7423 😂

[@N3XTREVOLUTION]

"Purchase new product"-the banlist

[@kimjung-un8204]

Plus finally killing the fire decks finally

[@yasinacilan]

Well time to play pure fire king instead then. We may have lost oss but that means we can TRULY play fire king now.

[@darkmagicianfan3423]

That’s the name of the game! If you’re not attending lots of high level tournaments, just play what you like. I’ve been playing plants for two years and don’t plan to stop now. I’ve saved so much money not buying into the new hot thing.

[@kimjung-un8204]

@darkmagicianfan3423 Even if you are attending high-level events you can still cook people with stuff like salads or plants

[@svenmanning]

​@darkmagicianfan3423 it's the same reason why I play Shaddoll, Dogmatika Invoked

[@OMGMPIRE]

I sincerely hope they continue to do the banlist at the end of YCS streams. Public executions of decks were not on my bingo card.

[@starbomber]

I do like how the banlist reveal was done as a little bit of theater.

[@brittis_n3xus]

I wholeheartedly believe Jowgen was to avoid futureproofing with White Forest. With having multiple tutor cards for it and be able to stun lock you while also checking the albion lock doubling down as well.

[@brandonlewis3938]

NGL, the list announcement was the other good highlight, second to TRIF winning. Imagine them doing the list drops, like that, every time.

[@dariuspenner2528]

I think it’s worth mentioning that Poplar is now a hard garnet. It used to be able to sorta work because you could search OSS with it to go into your SE stuff. Now Poplar does absolutely nothing if you open it. Even if you play the Temple, which isn’t even standard, there isn’t a good set off it

[@mageside]

Can they release the Albaz binder already SO Sanctifire can get banned already?? It's honestly the only reason that dragon hasn't been hit yet and why Branded Fusion took a hit instead. NOT that Branded was dominating the game or anything, it is just obvious why Sanctifire hasn't been hit yet when its the obvious problem card.

[@DemetrisBarnes]

Synchro Rumble brings back a tuner monster! Just throwing that out there

[@CrisRullz]

let's kill every fire deck before we touch the fiendsmith engine that's been dominating every list the past months with degenarate 24 HT decks and infinite grind game...

[@leodeleon3990]

Any tenpai players: pick up masked dragons. You can crash them in battle to get chundra access. Dora is the new normal to search genroku.

[@xuyang6013]

Pause! That's actually kinda crazy lol

[@silvermushroom-gamifyevery6430]

Cali effect's "When old yugioh wrecks modern cards", but for real!

[@aaronmorgan5860]

I was playing a 60 card infernoid deck. It was able to compete this format. I also ran a small snake-eyes engine, but I was not playing Flamberge Dragon.The ban to Original Sinful Spoils cuts off the bridge to Deactron and severely limits the consistency for the Infernoid Evil combo. I'm not sure if there is a fix to this.

[@blind0wl123]

You're the first person that isnt doom posting about centur-ion being unplayable. Centur-ion is an adaptable deck with a ton of space and it's probably the best deck for having space for meta calls aside from razael. Heck you can main book of moon as both a meta call for razyel and as a way to protect your plays thanks to the way it interacts with trudea and crimson dragon

[@quassar4618]

Hold on, why is centurion unplayable now?

[@blind0wl123]

@quassar4618 no idea but most people who know of the deck seem to think that the deck is unplayable because of some reason

[@RuruRampage]

IMO, unstoppable exodia is really up there. Shifter into exodia with exxod and hand traps is crazy good.

[@iplayswordsoul]

I’m expecting ryu-ge swordsoul to appear here and there

[@turtle-bot3049]

Fiendsmith lightsworn is still a scary deck that went completely untouched this list. The engines both pivot into each other giving it a lot of consistency and it has a lot of gas (similar to tear). Its main downside is shifter, but if you can avoid that (or work around it) the deck is legitimately a scary combo deck. Also, dont play it as a grass deck unless grass goes to 3, that is the biggest bait of lightsworn decks. The deck doesnt need grass, a 40 card list mills almost the entire deck while building a massive board on its own without grass.

[@bladthebozo9630]

I have high hopes for Melodious after this banlist. Struggled against snake-eyes for a while(which I prob shouldn’t have) but I’m glad I’m not gonna see it much anymore.

[@UnseenH3RO]

I’m gonna start the format with Purrely and see where it takes me

[@svenmanning]

Hey it's play style that's affordable and is it going to rain you close to $1,000

[@Blackreapxr]

Not a bad choice esp for locals. The only downside is people running D barrier for Ryzeal. Will have to side 1 d barrier with some main decked crossouts

[@GutsmanLoL]

Deadnader target my friend purrley chain link 2, response?

[@UnseenH3RO]

@ that’s every deck right now just about.

[@Jaganphotos]

Damn Goblin Bikers still not even hidden potential

[@MSTTV]

There’s no space take it easy, this one is a counter matchup to ryzeal. Hidden potential

[@Jaganphotos]

@ I’m taking it easy my man 😂 I just get heartbroken every time I don’t see my “Imma eat your board deck” mentioned haha

[@daiki3605]

nah RB the real sleeper pick, took it locals recently and still won against ryzeal... its 1000% resiliant to shifter sure it dies to the same things maliss does... but if maliss can be top tier so can RB... not to mention if ur good with holding ur interactions u can 10000% play thru a miss timed nib

[@mitchwilk793]

Masked dragon is a way to get Chundra on board. Foolish burial goods and Sangen Furro for tenpai spell retrieval. But deck is hurt bad.

[@oliverdeeley]

It's so bad that I have made the decision to bench my Tenpai deck in the meantime. There's just no way to patch up what the deck wants to do and have it be effective consistently.

[@mitchwilk793]

@oliverdeeley agree, I just mentioned some possibilities I saw in OCG. Overall, good-bye Tenpai.

[@oliverdeeley]

@@mitchwilk793 The only way Tenpai will get back into the Meta with the current hits is new support. But that ain't happening anytime in the foreseeable future.

[@calvinbarboza]

Who is going to drop a grand to go to smelly ass locals for a year before their deck gets banned?

[@huehuehue-x3c]

I seriously do not understand the tenpai hate and I don't even play the deck. It's a budget deck that's great for getting people into the game. The decks that benefited from this banlist are all on the pricey side. Engraver is $100 a piece now.

[@AAdams-ke4is]

The hate comes from feeling like you can't play. Too many Tenpai games go "Draw. Standby? Main. Heat Wave you. Go. My turn? Standby main? Summon Paidra." I didn't mind the deck too much, but there are an AWFUL lot of games where nobody's choices mattered, from deckbuilding to play patterns.

[@huehuehue-x3c]

@@AAdams-ke4isI mean that’s most decks. The top decks are all “you can’t play on your turn” decks. Also, they only play heat wave going first which means they lost the first game.

[@Tobi-hq3xe]

For real. All the people bitching about it are just mad that their 500+ dollar decks lose to it, even though their whole gameplan is also to not let their opponent play at all.

[@Tobi-hq3xe]

For real. All the people bitching about it are just mad that their 500+ dollar decks lose to it, even though their whole gameplan is also to not let their opponent play at all.

[@junglezone7323]

​@Tobi-hq3xe the people who top at my locals with tenpai are bad players who don't understand technical play. The deck is so ignorant and braindead that it required very little thought or skill to pilot, compared to the other decks where u still need to know interactions and various gamestate situations

[@faylamur4200]

Where are my boys Sprights ?

[@__senjutsu]

We got hoed yesterday with no Elf unban

[@MSTTV]

Hidden potential

[@SWAN021]

DDD with dark contract with the entrnal darkness and the field spell and also using the yubel field spell to search for your 1 card starts and let's not forget to much the support the way 😂

[@hiddenfog180]

How viable is running Masked Dragon for a Chundra replacement?

[@rangeless]

Holy shit. Tombox knows about Misty rofl.

[@David-hw9si]

For Dramatic chase gimmicks, they area still not really worth it until Poplar goes to higher number. SE literally dies to 1 interaction while playing like 5 bricks. The deck had a good run so the hits are 100% justified, but it's really not worth it beyond being a youtube showcase video deck at this point versus a wall. As far as top potential, FK and Centurion have no room to play as long as Ryzeal is the best deck (and looking at right now, by a far margin), because their playstyle is directly countered by Detonator pops, and they can't play HT battle versus Ryzeal nearly as well. Other meta decks like FS goodstuff and Maliss can do that to an extend, but not other decks, Non-Ryzeal options other than FS and Maliss really need to have engines that are strong enough into handtraps and then gamble on playing more boardbreakers in order to make presence, and also have an efficient way to out Detonator, otherwise you're just never winning against Ryzeal going second. Bonus points that both Maliss and Ryzeal can further check rogue decks by siding Shifter. It hurts their own decks too but not as much as turnskipping many Rogue decks. Maybe this would finally be the format we get Shifter addressed because people that always argue "Rogue need Shifter to check meta" will finally get the feeling of what happens when it's the Meta decks that further uses Shifter to abuse the non-Meta decks.

[@matthewbrady1562]

Doesn't Maliss just plus off of Shifter. Ryzeal care a little as we saw in the YCS especially a Fiendsmith variant.

[@AAdams-ke4is]

​@matthewbrady1562 Maliss doesn't plus off of Shifter. It seems like it does, but you REALLY want to save your Chessy Cat banish and your Red Ransom banish. Being forced into summoning back everything you use immediately instead of being able to stash cards in the bin until later in the combo means you can't play around hand traps as well. (And also Impulse on Red Ransom's banish effect actually ends your turn, where without Shifter you can still often put up SP/IP + GWC without it, which is most of your end board.)

[@David-hw9si]

@@matthewbrady1562 Not really. Maliss is a Cyberse combo deck and their optimal endboard needs the graveyard to function. They are in a similar boat as Tenpai when it comes to Shifter: their own gameplan is actually also significantly hurt by it, but if it means completely turnskipping the opponent, they'll still play it.

[@leyvatenlp4303]

Hitting Gimmickpuppet does nothing, they can Just replace it with d d orthros, kinda does the same

[@Corey91666]

Any fiendsmith, unchained or yubel deck can still play. Its not nearly as bad.

[@BobbioAdam]

So you really think pure fire king will have Top Tier potential? I havent been able to find a really good way to play it quite yet.

[@norn-sama3407]

Floo has some hidden potential if you build it right

[@timodell2270]

I think Dinosaur can be a good deck this format for “ potential” they have Uct, strongest main deck boss monster in the game, and there’s different variants but they can rank 4 spam ending on a Dolkka, Laggia, Lars, or even a Nat Beast depending on your build

[@kariwunderland]

Greetings from Germany, I really like your analysis, thank you for it ❤

[@matjazpizzepuzzepu7481]

Ohaaa spotted ! :D

[@durandarte]

The game can go to hell for all I care if they keep killing the competitive viable low budget decks, so nice banlist Komoney xd

[@baneyama103]

Ritual beast? Where would it go

[@MSTTV]

Hidden potential and high potential

[@ScreamoTOYGK]

SalamanGREATs best fire deck let's gooooo!!!!

[@Jason-dh3el]

Rotation list, nothing new.

[@__senjutsu]

So glad I picked up WF when I did. It's about to be Tier 1.5.

[@Billie.Hardrock]

Unfortunately, I hope Azamina doesn't get hit as an Illusion type fan. Azamina being so generic is tough, though.

[@diogopires9000]

thank you for the guy who bought my tenpai core

[@andrebewerbung21]

What do you think about melodious?

[@Orion1205]

It's not that people didn't "like the format". It's more so the fact that every single time you have to pay 800+ dollars for competitively viable decks. Here's lookin' at you Mulcharmy Ryzeal and Fiendsmith cards. -_-

[@MSTTV]

Ryzeal is actually kinda cheap…. The prices tanked suuuuuper hard.. Detonator are 10 now, but ext is still 30, xore cost is around 270-300

[@Orion1205]

@@MSTTV dont forget the mulcharmy's and fiendsmith cards tho if you want to do the thing right.

[@helloface001]

No, people really don't like the format. I go to the same locals as Tombox. Many players, including myself, rarely show up/don't show up anymore because the format is so bland.

[@GeneralNickles]

5:30 bro have you played Pokemon pocket? Misty NEVER flips heads. To the point that water decks are genuinely starting to cut it entirely. It's so unreliable that you're better off just playing a different card.

[@knight_____________]

Not relevant at all and probably never will be, but I just want a couple new graydle cards to account for a bit of the power creep. That's that deck that got me into the game and I'd love to see it get a little attention.

[@TroyTheTCGTrustee]

Branded still has ido which is even more oppressive if you don't draw the out that most people don't even main or side...droplet, econ or dark hole pretty much. . ....

[@victorrosales530]

How long does it take for my sleeves to get shipped bought 8 on the 22 of November still haven’t received my items 🧐

[@MSTTV]

Have you emailed support with your order number? I know the merch side had been swamped due to black friweek I’m sure they can follow up with you

[@victorrosales530]

@ they reached out thanks 🙏

[@thecrimsomcardyugioh9810]

Tri-brigade fire king isnt a bad cheap variant. Also VV can play Eva

[@Lewt_2B]

how do you send eva though? i can only think of diviner and that defeats its purpose

[@tariqmcmaster8668]

The snake eye combo is still there. Sure. But it loses essentially like 10 starters. The deck is incredibly inconsistent. In terms of snake eye starters it has 3 bonfire, 1 ash, 1 one for one. And yeah that’s it. Unless they get desperate and do SHS to make banshee to search ash.

[@coconut81]

playing scareclaw fiendsmith kash. i was really scared when they said that the new banlist is coming after the ycs but they didnt hit any of my good engines

[@MexicanGan-Q]

How on earth is Ritual Beast not on the Tier Potential List anywhere? The prevalence of D-barrier and Lancea will be an issue, but otherwise the deck was completely unhit (and it doesn't care about being Shiftered at all)

[@obviousgeneralname]

The disrespect of melodious. Plays 18 handtraps and has 1 card combos

[@MSTTV]

Hidden potential, even though it’s 1cc, any part right now that relies on pendulum scales is going to have a rough time vs Ogre and vs detonator

[@obviousgeneralname]

@MSTTV I don't think I have to worry about detonator with 18 handtraps.

[@bbcassassin5022]

Bro never played against ryzeal omegalol

[@togder]

@@obviousgeneralname ??? you just overlay two level 4s you cannot stop detonator coming with hand traps

[@OVOgreggory]

@@obviousgeneralnamenah ryzeal definitely has the potential to play past a handful of HT’s if they open decent.

[@houaxiong985]

Yes, i used to play branded, but all the branded players only focused on locking, instead of strategizing

[@MSTTV]

I like this guy^^

[@Magikey]

I like to turbo out masquerade blazing alongside my full board of branded interruptions

[@davidomeara2766]

Goblin biker fiendsmith is being slept on

[@aessilverfang8003]

Even thou the decks not good now I can finally play lunalight orcust as it's now playable, still not full power buuut i doubt konami will release 2x-3x of the cards off the banlist to make it full power

[@jkrulz77]

Dragon rulers should have hidden potential now that they are at full power again. They won't dominate like they used to but they can easily OTK and put up lots of big monsters. I will be playing them.

[@JohnGilm]

Big monsters and otk hasn't been a good selling point for the last decade

[@YGO-Shant]

Jowgen was more of a pre hit before the new light fiend link4 from the next set

[@colinbrown74]

Im pretty sure Snake-Eyes is dead considering the deck effectively lost like 2/3rd of the ways they could even begin Snake-Eye combo. Wanted/Diabellstar cant get it. Azamina cant get it. Now its just draw Ash or Bonfire or One for One. Which is 5 cards in the deck, and that is ass consistency.

[@ghostoflunar954]

What about Pure Kashtira does it have potential?

[@gvaron2391]

Love it when my rogue deck doesnt get hit. (It never does)

[@vparsa87]

Tear Tenpai players, if you want to play a dragon synchro otk deck, it’s called RDA.

[@lit_wick]

Idek if I want to play wanted! Cards in my snake eye build. Thinking just running a second copy of oak, and flamberg

[@AlexanderHernandez-d6n]

Plant link in wich place You should put it

[@TuckNeal]

Don’t want to buy Ryzeal or Maliss but want to compete and not die to shifter and dimensional barrier FLOOWANDEREEZE

[@oscarnavarro630]

What about bug pile?

[@KashtiraFenrir]

Honestly when it comes to Stun, you can probably move to fire statue depending on if people move on from the fire meta.

[@fizzyfinest]

fossil dyna + any statues showing the attribute thats not commonly played ig

[@gr8dmoore17]

I just dont understand why they wont hit sanctifire dragon he was the problem

[@imabanana2371]

because branded is a popular deck and they already hurt it alot with b fusion to 1 also those cards are just going to cause problems in the future with other cards being released so might as well hit it now

[@KashtiraFenrir]

@@fizzyfinest Also once Seventh Takeon comes out you can search Fossil Dyna and such. Could be a good replacement, you will just be more likely to get hit by handtraps, which the deck didnt care about previously.

[@alpha0peanut11]

You can play a rock focused stun variant with dyna and earth barrier statue

[@UltracoreUltraUranium]

Great video production sir

[@scott898586]

Not a whole lot honestly changed with the format. Just hammers more into spend money to play this new deck because we axed your decks. To be honest, some of these hits are way too late and just not enough to actually fix the underlying problems of the game since POTE.

[@ddbros789]

End phase trigger in tenpai if you make it to the end phase your cooked

[@Gamegurlz94]

We barely have interaction sometime in general

[@erinmitchell354768107]

Yay no fiendsmith hit, gotta love lightsworn bystial horus feindsmith

[@jermale39]

I don't play tempi. But I think it sucks to see a competitive cheap deck get killed

[@raymondcintron1122]

Monarchs making a come back

[@sethcastro4596]

New combos with lunalight 👀

[@RuneSlashersPrime]

My friend played the topping VV list. He played pure

[@josephreis2915]

No mention of melodious?

[@iSoaring]

The branded lock still exist.. just use ra’s disciple 😌

[@svenmanning]

And then watch Konami kill that too because people want to keep doing locks

[@MSTTV]

Book of eclipse part of our format

[@iSoaring]

@ you gotta draw it first 😗

[@LoxoscelesCCG]

The best targets for locking are the ones that are level 6 or higher because you cannot send level 5 or lower monsters to the GY with Granguignol's effect, which is why Ra's Disciple is a mediocre option. None of the available level 6 or higher options are as good as Puppet Nightmare because their effects only apply while the monster is face up on the field. People that still want to lock will probably look to Ido the Supreme Magical Force.

[@hypnotist1200]

The new link 4 can summon jowgen. It had to go

[@MSTTV]

There we go the answer I was looking for

[@svenmanning]

Not to mention what the new spellcaster support it was going to eventually get the tiny monk banned eventually anyway

[@buonvecchiocharlie7507]

Yeah, can summon It, but from the graveyard. How do you dump It aside with foolish burial?

[@smallmightgaming]

Mermail top tier potentiel for the next format

[@tomasmedina7993]

Cyber Jar won the banlist

[@MadMothz]

Honestly, I’m gonna just play striker.

[@frailscarecrow2988]

Snake eye players consider this a noble sacrifice because we could have it much worse

[@frailscarecrow2988]

I have a cool combo including sinful spoils doom relica

[@TheRaptorhunter123]

Can I meme with Ancient Gears? Hmmm 🤔

[@redoctober67]

OSS enabling bridging into completely unrelated archetypes was, whether by deliberate, accidental, or even callous design, a huge mistake. It being banned is justified. Also your top tier list being Robot-Waifu-Beast thing-Waifu-Waifu-Husbando/Waifu combo-Waifu is just hilarious. The tax is real 🤣🤣

[@ragnarokstones1208]

Original should have been limited not ban

[@kartenspieler0863]

I think that maybe Tearlament is missing.

[@NotGemineye]

I’m trying to combine dragon rulers with tenpai right now . I’m at lost 😔

[@MSTTV]

Mix in baby fire dragon? With big fire dragon and … genroku as the tuner? Need to get cooking

[@NotGemineye]

@ please cook , I need ideas . I’ve been in the lab all morning

[@MTC-G]

Dude, ok nerf tenpai by doing chundra down to 1, but Kaimen at 1 kills

[@christianjustin20]

Tenpai being dead means there is no actual competative budget options. Konami just said you must spend atleast $1000 to play.

[@Eric-ih5mb]

Lab. Tenpai ideally wanted some very pricey staples anyway, it wasn't that much cheaper to build optimal Tenpai than it was a fiendsmith Kash list or something similar.

[@WolfFangRich]

Voiceless

[@ferelpuma]

Gren Maju is the original Tenpai. Instead of handtraps it plays Kaijus and Lava Golems. Imma try it out at locals this week.

[@David-hw9si]

voiceless Kash Lab etc are all fine. Sorry not sorry Tenpai players lost their room temperature IQ deck "justified" as "budget"

[@Lewt_2B]

the decks arent actually that expensive unless you own 0 hand traps and 0 extra deck staples

[@ThetrueKidGoku]

Where's rhe meta report on Yubel?

[@matjazpizzepuzzepu7481]

Phantom to one makes the deck more (maybe not that much as you would think but more infos later) vulnerable 2 handtraps and u have to decide now between using it as protection on ur turn or a disruption in the enemy turn. Furthermore you have to decide if u use it as link fodder or not. Now u have to include more ways to recicle him. For example with adding set rotation as one more way to throne or you have to use Soul of Rage/Anguish to add him back to hand. BUT the addition of two more openings are a huge buff. It basicly has a tripple use. Opening was limited for a reason. Its the best card in the deck. its the best onecard starter. It is a very good extender and can get u indirectly to ur enginge if u manage to get revive a potential Spirit of Yubel in ur hand. The addittion of almiraj could help in that kind of scenarios if u max out on opening. In addition to that, opening can recicle ur throne or other opening more frequently now. But opening together with only one phantom makes the deck more fragil towards droll and lockbird. All in all its of course more of a nerf for yubel but not that big as it looks like at the beginning. I hope that helped a little bit. Greetings from Germany

[@MSTTV]

Talked about it in winners/losers section, big hit but gets back opening… so hand traps hurt more for sure and can’t have cake and eat it as material too

[@Thegameshadow1]

Of course banning problematic things even if they are slightly phased out is good. What sort of silly argument is this? This is like saying Protos is okay because no one abuses it NOW. Like, it is still a very problematic card.

[@OverlordOfDarkness95]

Ritual Beasts best deck.

[@Infinite8blue]

20 minute of combo to accomplish nothing lol, just to make colossus or Protos

[@togder]

Loses to Fuwa, Purulia, Droll, Lancea, Imperm+Nib have fun.

[@KAMISEYE]

Labyrinth

[@Sleazetheguy]

Fiendsmith Unchained?

[@kimjung-un8204]

New meta? I'll just play another year of Lab unless we get an even better trap deck. 😅

[@svenmanning]

You have a good deck on your hands keep it

[@XDevilMachineX]

Six Sams not even on the list.. can we have Gateway back to two at least Konami? 😅

[@MSTTV]

Too many hand traps with ogre in the mix

[@OVOgreggory]

idk about that. at 2, gateway is in a weird spot since it can be too broken and honestly unnecessary at the same time. especially since it’s already searchable. i can end my turn with 20 counters post-combos, with just the 1 copy. there’s no need to have 2 unless they out your board which they shouldn’t be able to unless they open dark ruler, droplets or super poly. on the flip side however, with all the handtraps, 2 copies of gateway might be beneficial. but as soon as handtraps fall out of favor it becomes too good again, and would have to be hit again. it’s tricky. i think they’re in a good spot rn, overall, imo. you can still play through a moderate amount of interaction and still end on a decent board and uninterrupted is unbreakable by anything short of something unrespondable like the breakers i pointed out earlier.

[@Tyler-Wiley]

Gateway to 3 because everybody plays 20 hand traps.

[@OVOgreggory]

@@Tyler-Wiley most of their summons are inherant, just make lord shi en and you’re good. realistically there’s only a few decks playing that many handtraps and most won’t outright stop your 1 gateway unless it’s an ogre or droll

[@juanpedrostorr170]

When I play branded and a tenpai player is in the front of me its all smile😂🎉

[@svenmanning]

Alba Letinus contact fusion

[@luscens]

Why fire king top tier potential?

[@MSTTV]

Pure fire king

[@MSTTV]

Deck is strong and not as reliant on Azamina engine can top if they real get well versed in their lines and Kirin abuse

[@Eastside318]

lol you can’t play yugioh now with every card has a one card combo

[@Yugiohdeckmaster41]

Genroku not a tuner

[@MSTTV]

Genroku becomes a tuner when added to hand and summoned

[@andersonsamuel123]

Now that tenpai is dead, is there an argument to defend it or 100% deserved the hits?

[@babrad]

The only way to defend it was to say it was a new player friendly budget deck, but that excuse got out of the window as soon as Mulcharmies came out

[@n3kuzya]

Even though I'm so happy about its death, I'd have never expected both Chundra *and* Kaimen to be hit. I thought maybe Konami would have still gave a chance for Tenpai to do something in the meta, but they completely murdered it at the very end. At the end of the day, I think that meta decks should be far more enjoyable and far more interactive (in a positive way obv) rather than shotgunning 5 bb/ht, then ns, go bp and win... so good riddance.

[@MSTTV]

Deserved hits just look at the crowd reaction

[@David-hw9si]

Nope, that deck can die. I have been 100% an advocate for cheaper decks and easier decks, but this deck making every game a non-game gives a terrible game experience compared to even Yubel build-a-board FTK because you can at least attempt to interact with that deck while with Tenpai their cursed field spell turns off a large number of inteactions and then killing you with one card.