Here is an in-depth look at the rare MSX Turbo R computer from Panasonic!
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@boozydaboozer8 жыл бұрын
Cool, I imported the GT version of this machine back in the 90's. Pretty expensive, both quite worth it. The increased performance of the R800 was most noticeable with BASIC programs. Any decent programmer would use the VDP interrupt routine to keep their games running at the same speed regardless of CPU speed. Quite a lot of games actually ran better in R800 mode, not because of the increased CPU speed but because of the improved handling of writing and reading I/O ports that could lead to problems if a mandatory delay time was not obeyed in Z80 mode.
@VSigma7257 жыл бұрын
TURBO! Japan just loved the word turbo back then.
@ollekehoever90729 жыл бұрын
How wonderful Rob this review. I used to own a Panasonic Turbo R as well in 1990, i imported it from Japan to The Netherlands, unfortunately it only had 3 games or so and the support was cancelled for MSX long way before that. But great your review!
@obsoletegeek9 жыл бұрын
How cool! I bet it was very expensive to obtain in 1990.
@ollekehoever90729 жыл бұрын
Back toen it coaten 1900 dutch guilders; now 1900 euro's so yes it was quite expensive importing it
@mbe1026 жыл бұрын
Man, I really like your videos, and i'm not sure whats going on, or if you've just not had time to make them, but I really miss them man. Hope things are okay, and look forward to more content when you get around to it :).
@heart.wyred_official7 жыл бұрын
The good ol´MSX times
@SkyeWelse9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this overview video Rob. I think this will be pretty informative for those interested in getting into MSX and needing to decide between getting either a MSX2/MSX2+ or Turbo R. I have a Turbo R GT and I wanted to explain just a bit more information that may be valuable in helping folks with making that decision. While the Turbo R can play any MSX1 through Turbo R games, it will only play games either on rom cartridge or disk based formats. It isn't classified as being completely 100% backwards compatible due to the fact that is has no option for hooking up a cassette player / recorder to play cassette games. While cassette games are very old and likely won't play for much longer, simply having a CD with the wave files of those games and or wave files directly played from say a digital device should be enough to load up without much issue provided the MSX machine has a Line In for audio. That's the one downside I'd say for the Turbo R aside from the price. Next, even though there weren't too many games for the Turbo R released, there are some very interesting developments in the MSX scene which is still very active that makes use of the Turbo R's extra power. It might be worth it for those who really want to get involved with MSX development in the future, especially with the extra enhancements such as the GFX9000 (or compatible hardware) and the Moonsound OPL4 sound card, virtually turning the MSX Turbo R into what would have been the MSX3. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos on MSX! www.usamsx.com
@EmilianoFraga8 жыл бұрын
+SkyeWelse That talk about cassette compatibility. When the TR was launched, 1990, cassette media was already obsolete. Panasonic WSX also has no cassette plug on it and no one complains. . Also, please take a look on MSX Data Pack Vol 3. This is a ASCII book series about the MSX Standard. ASCII had the rights over MSX standard on that time. On this book ASCII states clearly that TR has no cassette interface, as the natural evolution of the 1983 first version of MSX Standard.
@speccysrule36785 жыл бұрын
TBH, I couldn't see much differenncce between the Z80 or TURBO versions apart from the display being a bit sharper & brighter on the turbo! Exlent sound though! BTW I love programing Z80 code, It's sooo easy and fun!!!
@mattx5499 Жыл бұрын
Too bad that they released it instead of 16-bit MSX with Z80 on board for backwards compatibility. The idea of a computer made by dozen of companies was great. All these different designs are freaking fascinating. Also having a machine with built-in floppy drive and cardridge slots was a blast.
@rickonami8 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@jaydy712 жыл бұрын
Nice video, but one small correction: The R800 is not a RISC type processor at all. It has the same instruction set as the Z80 with a few instructions added, but it is a lot more efficient than the old Z80.
Each time you ask Nishi (MSX creator) the same question, the answer will be different. He said once for example that the Turbo R was named after his car at that time (Bentley Turbo R). So, take the "R stands for RISC" story with a grain of salt.
@Kw11613 жыл бұрын
You should try the SymbOS system on the Turbo R.
@weezerbluealbum59848 жыл бұрын
Hey, what was the music used during the comparison?
@VenomStryker5 жыл бұрын
@Rooflesoft Games No wonder the music sounds like Gradius, since this was also developed by Konami. Their music team had some awesome chip tunes back in the day!
@samcoupe46084 жыл бұрын
Have u seen wolfenstein on c64 super cpu n zx spectrum next?
@leonardoantonio87567 жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting, nice japanese konpyuutaa! haha
@joseadolphobrandao46653 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the game at 3:47 ?
@andresortega5167 жыл бұрын
How do you switch to 'high speed mode'?
@fr_schmidlin6 жыл бұрын
There are BIOS functions for that. On MSX-DOS2 and Nextor, you can use the CPU command to easily change between the speed modes.
@blackinwoman9 жыл бұрын
the board was cheap (made from Phenolic paper) ? like in megadrive 2 ?
@fr_schmidlin6 жыл бұрын
No. It's a fiberglass PCB.
@jW-kr5xn7 жыл бұрын
I was looking for motorcycle, then I clicked into this......
@mvl713 күн бұрын
I have both now :)
@NesNyt Жыл бұрын
Can u use google translate on it to resd kanji
@zsewqthewolf11948 жыл бұрын
put SymbOS on it
@samcoupe46084 жыл бұрын
Get wolf!
@ravengaming41438 жыл бұрын
Whoa, F-Zero on MSX? But was it legit or a bootleg version?
@jpdl17907 жыл бұрын
it's a clone called f-zeru ex
@ravengaming41437 жыл бұрын
JPDLgames Yeah I thought so. Pretty neat to have a 8-bit version of F-Zero with the scaling effects, albeit considerably more pixely (understandably).
@gunmatheretrogamer747j6 жыл бұрын
Raven Gaming a homebrew
@PLAN50 Жыл бұрын
Too bad MSX died. Main problem was that it didn't innovate. Turbo-R was introduced years behind Amiga 500 and lacked in basically all aspects.
@glufke3 жыл бұрын
"It's an incredible gaming machine...". ----> Shows a bunch of MSX1 games :-D
@samcoupe4608 Жыл бұрын
No there iznt
@NesNyt Жыл бұрын
God they make ugly looking products, look at that dashboard
@StefanHomberger8 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful machine. The main reason I want one of these alongside an MSX2, is Illusion City.
@BigGfromSA8 жыл бұрын
My dream MSX machine.
@electricadventures8 жыл бұрын
Very well done getting hold of a Turbo R, a machine I would like to get one day. Probably the main piece of MSX hardware missing from my collection when it comes down to it. Would have loved to have one back in the day, then perhaps there would be more games for it now :) I do intend on finally breaching the MSX 1 barrier and bringing out some enhanced versions of my games, will have to look into how hard it is to add adaptive support for the Turbo R when I get to that stage.
@pedroserapio80758 жыл бұрын
The PCB and soldering points look amazing.
@BFG690009 жыл бұрын
Nicely produced video, thanks!
@LastofAvari9 жыл бұрын
Hey Rob, thanks for the great review!
@travistaylor31865 жыл бұрын
MSXturboR one of my dream computers on my wish list. One day I'll have one.
@pychoncy5 жыл бұрын
In Spain only one shop sold MSX TurboR computers in the early nineties. They were very expensive: the A1ST costed €721 and the A1GT €841
@RockyBergen9 жыл бұрын
Awesome review! Keep it up. :D
@Oldsukerbole9 жыл бұрын
Great machine and nice review. Somehow I always have a soft spot for MSX computers. But in 1990 you where probably much better off with an Amiga (in Europe at least).
@CollectingRetro9 жыл бұрын
Great video! From what I could tell it seemed that Space Manbow was running slightly faster? Was it just a plain MSX2 on the right side or 2+? What other shoot em ups were also featured?
@EmilianoFraga8 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Congratulations.
@SANPARR18 жыл бұрын
Cool - Congratulations
@Mechakick7 жыл бұрын
Hey homes, I noticed the MIDI on the front of the box, I run emulated FM Synthesis in Cubase but I'd love to have the direct hardware... Do you know if either of the Turbo R models or the other MSX2's with the built-in FM would be better for MIDI programming and playback?
@Dawwwg6 жыл бұрын
No the MSX-MUSIC hardware uses the YM2413 OPLL (OPL2 Light) chip, the same as the Sega Master System. This is not bad, but not as good as regular OPL2 (YM3812) or 3 or 4 (which Cubase is probably emulating). For your purpose I'd suggest a Roland MT-32 or MT-64 just any decent 90s MIDI keyboard.
@tetsuoshiva7 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to launch the GUI you show at 4:27 from the Online MSX Emulator at WebMSX?
@ArnauddeKlerk6 жыл бұрын
No. WebMSX only features MSX1, MSX2 & MSX2+. No Turbo R. Take a look at the OpenMSX emulator. This can do the job.
@skins4thewin6 жыл бұрын
R800 vs Z80 footage looks virtually identical, aside from it looking like your Z80 footage is being taken via Composite vs RGB for the Turbo R. If they were both using RGB I don't think there would be any discernable difference aside from MAYBE some very slight smoother scrolling on the R800.
@airthrow9 жыл бұрын
Rob just curious what is your Japanese ability?
@obsoletegeek9 жыл бұрын
airthrow I know zero Japanese!
@airthrow9 жыл бұрын
robivy64 Just curious because I'm on all the FB groups for these J-PC's, I want to get some next year but I can only read Kana and don't remember very much of my highschool Japanese at all....good to know I can still get plenty of enjoyment w/o it. :)
@benjaminbaker79528 жыл бұрын
+airthrow what facebook groups if i may ask?
@airthrow8 жыл бұрын
+Penjama TheRainMan MSX Computer Fanland, NEC PC-98 Club, and Sharp X68000 Club.
@PrekiFromPoland8 жыл бұрын
I wonder how does Metal Gear 2 run on the Turbo R.
@pychoncy7 жыл бұрын
Fast as hell: hold the SHIFT key while the MSX TurboR boots. The game will run in R800 mode.
@fr_schmidlin6 жыл бұрын
There's a patch to enable turbo support on MG2, then it runs at the correct speed without any slowdowns.