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@vwestlife8 жыл бұрын
Fairchild was (and still is) a manufacturer of electronic components mostly designed for industrial and government use, so it's no surprise that the Channel F's hardware was innovative but the games they created for it were stodgy and unimaginative -- while a company like Atari who consisted of a bunch of young hippie potheads who did nothing but design video games all day was able to come up with more creative and entertaining games!
@fabian6514.cr38 жыл бұрын
I watch you!!
@jettwhite27918 жыл бұрын
+vwestlife me too
@robinder_8 жыл бұрын
+vwestlife woah, me too
@rodmunch697 жыл бұрын
When Steve Jobs worked at Atari everyone hated him because he stank so bad - apparently he didn't believe in using deodorant because he thought the chemicals were bad. Well, we see how that turned out. The big fat Steve who ate McDonald's and never exercised is still alive in kicking.
@rodmunch697 жыл бұрын
Nope, Jobs died because he was a hippie who tried to treat cancer using homeopathic remedies. A person in his position, with his wealth, could have lived a much longer life had he aggressively treated himself with the latest and greatest in medicine. Modern medicine actually works - well at least when there is a free market involved that rewards people and companies for coming up with new cures and new technology.
@McLoganator8 жыл бұрын
The Channel F controller is just like a Bop-It.
@araigumakiruno5 жыл бұрын
The Obsolete Geek + 8 Bit Guy + LGR + Techmoan = Chaos
@anactualmotherbear7 жыл бұрын
Jerry Lawson was one of the most important figures in video game history and it's good to be reminded of his major contribution to the industry- the video game cartridge!
I had one of these when I was a kid. It was the first "electronic game system" I ever had! It was actually pretty cool for its time, and I enjoyed it until I got the Mattel Intellivision in 1980.
@StuffWePlay5 жыл бұрын
The joysticks on this thing always seemed incredibly unique. I'd love to see their design somehow adapted for some sort of modern game!
@RogerRHF8 жыл бұрын
That pong at the end actually looks fun, you can move around going after the square lol.
@The8BitGuy8 жыл бұрын
+RogerRHF it is.. and you can also move your goal post too by using the push/pull feature of the controller. (not shown in video) So there are lots of things you can control. I was impressed.
@RogerRHF8 жыл бұрын
+The 8-Bit Guy It is in fact a work of art. I am going to get one myself because it just catches my interest.
@HomelessPank8 жыл бұрын
it's literally virtual air hockey lol
@johneygd7 жыл бұрын
The channel F had set a new standard for video games systems.
@GamingPalOllieMK8 жыл бұрын
I have the german version of the channel F, SABA VideoPlay :) I'm very proud of the fact I own this system
@obsoletegeek8 жыл бұрын
+Oliver It's a piece of history!
@max-dy3vs7 жыл бұрын
Gaming Pal Ollie I'm a german and I have a SABA Videoplay too! :)
@dave4shmups8 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! IMO, Jerry Lawson should be right up there with Nolan Bushnell, in terms of being a well-known pioneer in the video game industry.
@obsoletegeek8 жыл бұрын
+David Halligan I agree. Had the system been more successful I think you'd hear his name mentioned more often.
@zigzagbigbag7 жыл бұрын
dave4shmups Perhaps because he was black?
@dave4shmups7 жыл бұрын
I don't know, but I sure hope that's not the reason.
@Dios675 жыл бұрын
He's known but he didn't invent the console and doesn't hold any patents on it. Two engineers at a small company called Alpex invented the prototype even putting the eprom game chips in plastic "cartridges". Fairchild leased/bought the technology and they converted over to the F8 (from Intel) and shrunk it down to a smaller "console" size. Is Jerry Lawson important in gaming history? Sure, but he didn't do what you think.
@QUIZFILTER7 жыл бұрын
Obviously informative, but super funny as well... loved seeing 8-Bit Guy hang out for the fun! Keep up the great videos!
@lordwolffurry5827 жыл бұрын
The Obsolete Geek: where middle aged men meet to relive their childhood
@psychoklown668 жыл бұрын
Thank you both! Love both of your channels!
@lucacalutoiu12368 жыл бұрын
''Never gets old!'' Now the console is old
@ninjamaster34538 жыл бұрын
wow. love your videos but you knocked it out the ballpark with this one. 1. never heard of channel f, 2. your production value is superb (the cloning) 3. 8bitguy/ibookguy cameo perfect!
@obsoletegeek8 жыл бұрын
+Ninja Master Thanks!
@robintst7 жыл бұрын
That really is the best version of Pong ever. Don't have a Channel F but that's one reason I'd love to get one.
@jessemessmer72578 жыл бұрын
What an obscure yet interesting corner of KZbin keep it up
@antonnym2145 жыл бұрын
The video color selection for the 8 colors in the single pallet were not optimal: The choices were: Light Grey, Light Green, Lavender, White, Black, Red, Green, and Blue. No yellow, no orange.
@ed105238 жыл бұрын
I saw this console in the store when i was 7 or 8 my mother thought it was too expensive...later on i got an Atari 2600 where my love for games began. Thanks for Making this video..brought me back.
@nrnoble3 жыл бұрын
I remember when I first saw Pong. I couldn't figure out what "Magic" was used to get a TV to do. At the time, everything shown on a TV came from broadcast TV signal, so it was mind boggling how a TV could be controlled by game device.
@acertainshape7 жыл бұрын
I love it when your wife gets pissed at you.
@dhpbear26 жыл бұрын
I also remember how well shielded it was the ENTIRE PC board was encased in metal!
@1337Shockwav38 жыл бұрын
Suddenly: Saba Videoplay & Nordmende Teleplay :) Yes, this console actually got licensed. Also: MHz means nothing - see 6510 in the C64 vs. Z80 in the ZX Spectrum Fun fact about 8-Track cases ... the Exidy Sorcerer computer used actual salvaged 8-track cases for their cartridges.
@michaelturner44575 жыл бұрын
With the big 1 2 3 4 buttons, and the shape of the cartridges, it definitely took inspiration form 8-track.
@derekchristenson57112 жыл бұрын
The bit about "finding" the 8-Bit Guy still in your living room hours later was priceless, and so was the part where you just joined him, and then a third guy showed up, and you all had a blast trying to beat your scores at the games you had just, more or less, dumped on, LOL. I just picked up a faulty Fairchild Channel F myself and hope to get it back to working order. Back in the 80's, I had never seen one, but I've heard about them, and Jerry Lawson, since the 90's, and my curiosity got the better of me. I wish I'd picked one up twenty years ago when they were a lot cheaper, though. @.@
@meolessi52273 жыл бұрын
7:30 The 8-Bit Guy's face is hilarious . I'm still laughing, best scene ever hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Greetings guys!
@benseac8 жыл бұрын
This brings back memories of my brother and me playing games on the Channel F.
@davebladegun30098 жыл бұрын
Man that Astro City cab looks super clean. You must've spent some time and elbow grease on that sumbitch. I'm a little bit jealous.
@PointReflex8 жыл бұрын
I always wanted this system back in the 90's, I also still have the Popular Mechanics magazine from 1976 with the Atari VCS and the Channel F being anounced to enter in the US market (with a lot of other systems that didnt got the FCC approval xD), I saw that back then and I wanted one so much. But I got instead an Atari 2600 Jr with 72 built in games (this was in 1991 as I remember), my first game, Enduro my first virginity lost, River Raid. But as far as I can tell the market back then was making a slow begining, cheap games that anyone could understand was the way, when creativity and programming techniques came, more complex things were created, so at the end the Channel F is not THAT BAD, its just how it started.. and lets be realistic... if this console is "oh-so-basic", then.... what in the flying hell would be the original Magnavox Odissey? D:
@SeGa32xXx18 жыл бұрын
Magnavox's system would be considered garbage.
@pmcKANE7 жыл бұрын
8-Bit Guy out of nowhere!
@kamiboy8 жыл бұрын
Great collab there guys. For my taste though console video games didn't get to be real fun until the Japanese entered the market and threw their weight around.
@obsoletegeek8 жыл бұрын
+kamiotokonoko I agree. This is the only "pre-crash" console I own. It's so historically significant that I felt it deserved it's own video.
@satin2278 жыл бұрын
ah yes back in the day when switching video cards meant playing a whole new game and not renewing your faith in the PC master race and of course 8-bit guy is here to explain it instead of making stuff on his own channel XD
@pastedtomato7 жыл бұрын
Were I the only one who expected Techmoan to appear out of nowhere when they inserted the 8 Track cart into the Channel F?
@unitedunitedunited_4 жыл бұрын
The channel f looks a lot like an 8-track player with the numbered buttons
@DirtyHairy17 жыл бұрын
To me just the term Fairchild is full of promises, fantasies and laser future.
@LastofAvari8 жыл бұрын
Awesome to see your collab :)
@alansmithee10308 жыл бұрын
Awesome episode. When I saw your doppelganger I thought for a second that the two of you were going to fight in the retro mirror match tradition. Love the show. Keep it up!
@vemcomachines96347 жыл бұрын
I just love the way it sounds!
@maicod7 жыл бұрын
you and David have the same wall paint supplier
@mariosskl83478 жыл бұрын
Thank you Fairchild. For Intel, for AMD, for pushing technology forward
@ccateni287 жыл бұрын
Lol, David the 8-bit guy was featured in this video, well thats odd.
@ThePixelPolygon8 жыл бұрын
This was waaay before LAN parties.
@MegaMoto85 Жыл бұрын
Great vid guys, i laughed so hard at the last bit
@brandontechnerd5 жыл бұрын
I was really surprised when you brought in The 8-Bit Guy.
@e5frog6 жыл бұрын
No, the CPU was not divided into three separate 40pin packages. The CPU is just one 40 pin package. The other two in the image is the program storage units (ROM), they were able to keep pin count down on the CPU by having ROM with their own logic for program counter etc and just use the ROMC control signals to control it. You did need at least two chips to do anything useful, a CPU and one program storage unit, later on these came package in the same capsule. 128x64 is the number of bits that can be addressed in the Video RAM, you don't see all of it on screen, especially since the two columns that encodes the palettes are placed on column 125 and 126. Emulators like MESS/MAME shows 102x58 pixels - you often see even less on a real TV. channelf.se/veswiki/index.php?title=VRAM
@glynnetolar44238 жыл бұрын
Had one of these when I was a kid. Great memories. But the games were eh. Did collect many of the games and sadly, I still have them, somewhere. The console died.
@XzTS-Roostro6 жыл бұрын
The 8-track joke was the best bit
@therestorationofdrwho18658 жыл бұрын
Find the 2001 Sheen home video center from 1982!
@jeff97ish3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Obsolete Geek, how did a fellow Alabamian end up in the Dallas area? ROLL TIDE!
@ilcool908 жыл бұрын
Sentence in commercial: *never get's old* they should be sued for false advertising :D
@CJRussell8 жыл бұрын
4:54 that was awesome the way you and 8 bit guy looked at each other
@AccountWasHacked4 жыл бұрын
That actually look likes a fun version of pong.
@AliasUndercover5 жыл бұрын
We must have run through 3 or 4 pong machines before Atari came out. Never had a Fairchild, though.
@dhpbear26 жыл бұрын
4:58 - That's the sped-up version used in "Airplane!" ;)
@Godzilla73026 жыл бұрын
Had that console when i was a kid, loved the game "Cat and mouse" a maze game, but the joystick controller were weak and stopped working after a couple of years or something, that was pity. I so badly want to play that game console again.
@nopls92557 жыл бұрын
*very silently* "hey guys..."
@HelloKittyFanMan.8 жыл бұрын
Oh, check this out: a crossover episode! Cool!
@PSNationTorgo5 жыл бұрын
This was my 1st gaming console :-)
@Esth.18 жыл бұрын
i love your channel!
@Jimfoxyboy8 жыл бұрын
My family had one of these back when I was a kid, though we only had the first 7 carts for it. Was still working up till about a decade ago, when it was damaged during a move. After seeing some videos on other old gaming consoles, I'm kind of curious as to how it was to program the Channel F... well other than the limited space it had.
@gold49638 жыл бұрын
That actually looks kinda fun!
@SeltsamerAttraktor6 жыл бұрын
Waaaaa the 8bit guy, now that is a surprise
@terrythe2dmaniac718 жыл бұрын
very interesting and entertaining guys, keep up the good work.
@walktroughman19528 жыл бұрын
I know of a certain person who would love the woodgrain...
@theodor127 жыл бұрын
TheLazyWanderer lazy game reviews :)
@walktroughman19527 жыл бұрын
Mhm, exactly~
@Lyrabon7 жыл бұрын
WoodGrainReviewsROBLOX?
@LegoWormNoah1016 жыл бұрын
Clint Basinger (Lazy Game Reviews).
@MetalTiger888 жыл бұрын
to be honest, i couldn´t care less for this console, but your review was really really good and funny :D
@HobertMcFarlandtechandcargeek8 жыл бұрын
Proof that you can have fun on KZbin! :P Nice collab, guys.
@Haisui8 жыл бұрын
thought the door line was a line of coke xD
@dhpbear26 жыл бұрын
6:33 - I owned one of these back in 1979 (yes I bought it and Videocart -10 on sale along with a new color TV) . The only games I played was "Maze" and the built-in Pong. I do recall the awful video 'ghosting'! ) Probably Fairchild's attempt to get more 'colors' outta this thing!
@BenTvHowman8 жыл бұрын
Hello #8bitguy thank you for sending me to this channle, both your shows are awesome
@MaximNightFury8 жыл бұрын
Yay editing tricks allow two of the same guy!
@Sirkitty016 жыл бұрын
i was thinking playing pong vs the computer, and probably get your butt handed to you)
@williefleete8 жыл бұрын
Wow the thing has more V ram than actual ram.
@smittenthekitteninmittens26795 жыл бұрын
cool it's the 1 byte guy....i like his channel :D
@richfiles8 жыл бұрын
I used to have one of these, and a Commodore PET... I took them apart before I came to realize I might want to hold onto them... ;_;
@AmyraCarter6 жыл бұрын
Heh. I've seen these here and there, but never played one...
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR8 жыл бұрын
This was very interesting.
@ItsMe-np5ln5 жыл бұрын
I like that hat, Roll Tide!!!!
@mctv64865 жыл бұрын
The Rotator looks like the illuminati symbol
@jesse_cantcook3 жыл бұрын
Channel F in the chat
@vorkev18 жыл бұрын
have you ever come across the rare Atari 2700 proto type
@thefappingfive21703 жыл бұрын
Black's BBQ omfg dude yesssss!!!
@samfrankenstein Жыл бұрын
Today is its creator birthday
@branden322105 жыл бұрын
great fantastic vid.
@jackkraken38888 жыл бұрын
Cool controller!
@sirmeme11357 жыл бұрын
It is compatible with the wrong cartridge!
@carbonblack10028 жыл бұрын
DID THAT PLAY AN 8 TRACK WTF!?!
@richardnaffa59538 жыл бұрын
great video thanks
@dave4shmups8 жыл бұрын
Pac-Man was released for the Channel F as a homebrew game.
@8BitKeys8 жыл бұрын
+David Halligan Rob should show us that sometime in a future episode.
@obsoletegeek8 жыл бұрын
+David Halligan I wish I had a copy :(
@Liam30727 жыл бұрын
And it looks and play better than the official Pac-Man for the Atari 2600 !
@zeldajunkielol28 жыл бұрын
Cool collab video!
@hackpod1008 жыл бұрын
great video
@dallase18 жыл бұрын
You did a review and how it works video in Fairchild Channel F which is Cool because it's a neat unique system so how about Intellivision, a System that was great but not extremely popular and has been bashed by many Atari VCS fans and even people that follow trends and think only popular systems are good.
@AlexR26485 жыл бұрын
That was the most unenthusiastic "alright" I've ever heard.
@davidfox87917 жыл бұрын
Space Invaders is ok on this game system as well and breakout was brilliant as well I hear you can buy one card is with all the games on
@RogerBarraud5 жыл бұрын
Apple II .... used a MOS 6502 ... [Shows a Synertek 6502] :-/
@gjones13488 жыл бұрын
Good stuff as always bud!
@Doostun8 жыл бұрын
Nice video.
@MrDDawson3 жыл бұрын
I just had to re sub. KZbin please stop doing that crap! Love this video.
@Dios678 жыл бұрын
Jerry Lawson was in the mix with the creation of the system but its a bit more complicated. www.fastcompany.com/3040889/the-untold-story-of-the-invention-of-the-game-cartridge
@iliketurtles48696 жыл бұрын
I thought the Magnavox oddessy 1 was the first console with interchangeable cartridges..