MTG Arena - Historic - Paradox Combo

[@LegenVD]

Most lifegain decks: 🦁 My lifegain deck: 💎⚒️⚙️🏭🧰⏳💥

[@AstridCeleste96]

Yeah Colorless should be better at lifegain than mono-White Kappa

[@bencouch1178]

Im really worried that Kaladesh just destroyed historic. I foresee some major bans are going to be needed on cards like aetherwork marvel. Like, they brought cards that were SUPER broken and just shoved them into historic. Mono brown decks are crazy broken right now, and they gave the already broken decks massive buffs. Nice janky deck tho! Super hyped that engine is back. Ive always loved it.

[@chihshiangshee9002]

I'm waiting to see aetherworks marvel and ulamog eldrazi etc.

[@swk745]

But LVD profile: 🦁

[@bencouch1178]

@@chihshiangshee9002 you havent run in to any yet? At least half of the decks Ive played against are some form of aetherworks marvel decks. Its so frustrating because theres almost nothing you can do against them.

[@Mulch4321]

Find someone that loves you as much as LVD loves Mind Stone

[@mockduckcompanion]

Not possible

[@BrvtusVG]

LVD in a throuple with Mind Stone and playing cards for free from the top of the library

[@AJKiesel]

Impossible!

[@toriko4603]

Normal people get a tombstone LVD get´s a mindstone.

[@Nink262]

"Double Q - Full Control - Mystic Forge"... This sounds kinda relaxing

[@sofer2230]

Rube Goldberg Machine ASMR

[@electric_dream_machine]

That's the sound of value being generated

[@blondiwithstyle]

Nice deck! I appreciate your content and will give some positive feedback: The biggest reason why I like your content is that the decks you choose to play in your videos, you also seem to have practiced with before producing content about them. A lot of MTG content creators just go like "Oh, today we're going to try deck X!" and then they punt their way through every game, making the viewer feel as if they've never piloted the deck before. The fact that you manage to brew spicy things (that actually looks viable) and have a soothing voice are also neat bonuses. Peace

[@Kalamonga]

LVD Is also (or at least was) a pro magic player, not your average magic journalist

[@larkhainan]

I literally read about this deck and wondered what it looked like, went outside to make dinner and twenty minutes later came back to you uploaded this. Fantastic.

[@dvdbradford]

"And we can keep going." More terrifying words have never been uttered.

[@javgamer722]

I don't always like seeing combo decks, but when i do, it's because LVD is playing them.

[@taylorclough8128]

LegenVD: *Is at 4 health. Opponent is at 20.* LegenVD: "We've just got to win this turn" LegenVD: "Shouldn't be too difficult"

[@DoubleZDogg]

All that opponent had to do was send 2 damage Karn's way to prevent it from completing the combo, yet the elementals player somehow thought it was more important to get him to 4 life rather than 6. Opponent definitely deserved that loss.

[@t0t1lev0]

This deck reminds me of the old thousand year storm unmoored ego deck, in that the combo is almost more miserable on arena to perform than it is to lose to

[@mattd3978]

Ooooo, I never saw that deck, but it sounds kinda awesome

[@sudazima]

exiling ops only wincon and leaving the rest, big oh la la :D

[@t0t1lev0]

@@sudazima If you can go off enough, you can Just exile their entire deck, which I guess is technically their win con

[@jaidenharrison2963]

Love a good storm brew. Mono brown is just the icing on the cake.

[@miguelfreitas5343]

Truer words 👌

[@douglasgriffith2910]

43:00 - "All good things start with a turn 2 Mind Stone."

[@Weltenbastler2000]

Selesnya player: I am playing nice and fair magic. Brown tron: you are playing in the wrong play queue.

[@AngelicDirt]

My slow brain at 4am: Wait... it was Tron/Cheerios all along? LegenVD: Always had been.

[@12bravo68]

" A paradox! A paradox! A most ingenious paradox!"

[@ZeVentriloquist]

Wow a colorless deck without Ugin, one of the many reasons youre my favorite mtg youtuber

[@doctoryoshi5831]

I played this deck today and hats off to you man. I recovered from 1 life to the poimt where I won. Even the strixstadium didn't help my opponent. Absolutely amazing and fun deck. 6-0 straight.

[@chucheeness7817]

I remember doing the paradox combo using a captain Jhoira EDH. keeping track of mana and cumulative lifegain from aetherflux in paper magic is soooo much painful I abandoned that deck after a few sessions

[@judedormezil7917]

a bit late at night but i can never reject a VD video

[@toanho1329]

The MAN, the MYTH, the ________. Fill in the blank.

[@maxwellromza8390]

Crab

[@zappyice]

Mindstone

[@Dog3D]

im happy you decided to do this deck first from Kaladesh

[@tricket8760]

What a cracy deck. Those Combo decks are realy cracy. The opponent can just leave the moment you start your combo.

[@lifeisawesome1391]

No interaction and no creatures = you better ramp and find the combo pieces fast or you'll get run over by aggro. It is such a beautiful deck I really want to build it. But it requires a bunch of wildcards for Kaladesh rares/mythics and I worry that without Karn or a perfect draw it will be run over by any decent aggro (not just goblins).

[@LegenVD]

You do have some built-in lifegain and Blast Zone which helps against traditional aggro. Usually want to mulligan into some 2 mana ramp especially when on the draw. Not claiming every aggro matchup is good, but it's closer than it may seem.

[@ilikeapplepi]

It also helps when some aggro/midrange opponents don't respect Karn enough to kill him at 3 loyalty :)

[@ianmyers819]

I haven't looked at Kaladesh or any of the spoilers and when I heard you explain what Paradox does I did a spit take. Pretty rad with mana artifacts. Great deck.

[@santyricon]

Dude, I love your content

[@janisgorner205]

Hey, I created a pretty simular deck in mono blue with emry being the main engine. I had a game with a turn 3 win. Obviously a perfect hand: Turn 1 chromatic sphere Turn 2 mox amber - Emry - Mindstone Turn 3 paradox engine I was so lucky cause emry milled a second mox amber

[@TheValiis]

Watched the creation of this deck on stream, looks fun

[@Rudare916]

PERFECT TIMING!!!!!

[@-random-9198]

I was waiting for a new video of yours and I'm not disappointed at all 😍

[@Volta650]

Absolutely love this deck. I had the same thought but I wanted to make a mono black build and leverage the life lost with citadel with aetherflux and just spam life to get to the same position. I will definitely be building this brown version though!

[@amandaspear6148]

Thank you for your great video. Love this deck.

[@HelloTuno]

That one copy of inventors’ fair is paying off big time. Always there when you need it 😄

[@CyberBuster93]

Opponent: Oh boy, I sure do love playing this wonderful game. I hope I don't get completely obliterated. Luca: IMMA FIRIN' MY LAZER 😂

[@wimfranken826]

Combo so easy and good he doesn't even bother playing optimally or as focused as you'd expect from LvD. :)

[@antonioacuna9810]

The combo potential that kaledesh brought is excellent 🔥🔥😅👌

[@Kozi15]

Ahh this was my combo with my cEDH Kozilek The great Distortion deck before they sacked the Paradox engine. Nice!

[@samuelleonpaniagua5199]

I read in the title "paradox combo". I knew that something big was coming...

[@zarebear5690]

I'm not looking forward to playing against this but it looks incredibly fun to play haha

[@ThomasL.116]

Yes... I had to face that deck quite often already...

[@Kraken9911]

Can't decide if I like this new version of artifact monument or the old Ugin/ulamog instant scoop version.

[@maloewvalenar2155]

Have you considered splashing blue for emry? You can use it to cast your entire graveyard with engine, possibly going infinite with any sacrifice artifacts like chromatic star.

[@cristianscrivati8171]

Dope combo man

[@fatpigcom]

Perfect

[@fuentessetneuf]

What do you mean by “Full Control?” I think I need further explanation. Love the content and keep up the great work.

[@potatospartan6056]

Mtg arena without full control likes to insta-pass lesser used priority opportunities (where you have an opportunity to cast/activate something). Full control tells arena that you want to do every little thing manually, and allows you your priority opportunities to react to your own spell casting/ability activating. LVD has to activate arena's full control to be able to use his mystic forge ability right before the paradox untaps everything again.

[@dac2007]

I've been playing a version which uses Oven and Metalwork Colossus on the maindeck, that's kind of an infinite loop that can result in infinite mana or infinite life, the Colossus by itself is usually a 0 mana 12/12 so it's pretty cool anyway

[@haywoodjablome8634]

18:56 wordplay 🔥

[@RealClassixX]

Oh boy, good ol' Jhoira commander decks.

[@martinmackenzie5127]

43:40 lol I have to mute that dog too. The worst is the one that howls

[@imperialtutor8687]

Now we know why paradox engine got banned in edh. that's a filthy deck here. love it.

[@cookiecreep9204]

Today on "Banned in EDH":

[@kristiansantosa2997]

"So we'll go a little bit above 50 here just to play it safe" *81 health* "That should suffice" Lol your starting health is not even 31

[@deathsgozzo4319]

Seems like Karn crafting a laser cannon 🔫

[@crovax1375]

I've been doing very well with Kaladesh lately!

[@XblacklightZ]

I've never seen so much floating mana in arena. 13:00 117 mana just waiting to be used

[@eliisaac]

You totally need to do a deck with Crucible of Worlds, Ancient Greenwarden, and Nahiri's Lithoforming. There has to be some sac all your lands and replay them all right away combo! lol

[@joeviloria2494]

On paper this is easier to build than the typical ugin/ulamog colorless ramp. Equally lethal as well.

[@zhelyazkogrudov6476]

You mad genius

[@numberjuan6332]

LegendVD: *One turn away from death* Also LegendVD: 16:32 Me: 👁👄👁

[@boringmonkey6958]

Thanks... Now this is all I'm facing :(

[@ChairmanMeow1]

I'm a simple man. I see Mind Stone, I click like.

[@MartinBlackArcano]

I would rather call your deck the *" L A S E R "*

[@jaketidley2576]

Question about a washboard. Can you have 4 copies of a card in the main plus an extra one in the board? Or is it a total 4 for both?

[@LegenVD]

Only 4 in the 75

[@_zz.123_]

Question: when you activate Aetherworks Marvel to deal 50 damage to your opponent's dome, does your opponent have priority to do anything in response? Or is it like sacrificing a creature as a part of a cost, so no priority is given? (e.g. Witch's oven sacrificing any creature)

[@LegenVD]

They can respond to Aetherflux Reservoir before it deals 50 damage, but paying 50 life is part of the cost.

[@_zz.123_]

@@LegenVD Thanks LVD, and yeah I mixed up Marvel with Reservoir. Will you be making a video featuring Aetherworks Marvel? Love the content and gameplay!

[@LegenVD]

@@_zz.123_ It's one of the options in the Patreon poll.

[@Laniakea_Super]

What if you 👉 wanted to play an aggro tribal deck 😈 but LVD said "BAM" 💥💥

[@ondrejkromer5732]

I've played against similar version with Sai and Witching Well and of course lost to 50 damage in the face

[@elnatanbitensky8314]

It's kind of disappointing that standard rogues can compete in historic.

[@the_rahn]

Colorless mana goes brrr

[@lennartherrmann3057]

Does the format need decks like this?

[@tylertheriot8922]

How does this deck do against agro and control

[@Fresh_Pants]

I've been playing a similar variant of this deck in diamond rank. Against aggro, you can reliably drop Forsaken Monument or grab it with Karn (who is a great distraction after he grabs an artifact for you). Once FM is in play, gaining life to stabilize is cake. Against control, you do have to bait out counterspells as usual. If you are patient, and manage to get the combo pieces in play you are set, just a matter of not getting countered. That said, aggro is a harder match up imo. You can usually pop off and win turn 5-6, but aggro wants you dead sooner than that obviously. Blast zone is *chef's kiss* in those situations if you draw it. Ugin fits nicely in the deck obviously. It's so much fun to play, I recommend it!

[@rossf8616]

Is this version better than the Ugan Ulimog variant? It feels faster but also easier to pick apart.

[@bencouch1178]

I think its a completely different deck. Its like comparing Mono red to bant ramp.

[@storyhousePMod]

I foresee many concessions in my future. No point wasting my time, no point wasting their time. A loss is a loss, and that's okay. But why sit through a slow and gruelling death, eh?

[@Abraktil]

so the deck is strong but it would be fun to add another win con in the side board with the billion mana you create like an X spell.

[@Abraktil]

@@NecromancyForKids which isn't really a problem when you have mostly artifacts and you can play chromatic lantern stuff

[@Gnocchi10000]

Fire the laser

[@luiscordero9171]

Not enough wildcards 😔

[@captaindc]

Yo

[@Amphok]

so how do you deal with it hoping for artifact removal all the time?

[@LegenVD]

Kill before the combo, counterspells, discard, Karn, ...

[@MaestroDake]

Playing urza Styles deck with Karen on base shut down this combo. jajaja. Always people xploding. Uro+emry+goose+rebuke+karn. Ending with flux by amber emry paradox on side is. Agood infinite. With paradoxical. Midrange control combo deck. If u want i give my list to you.

[@mockduckcompanion]

I don't know who to feel worse for, you or your opponents

[@cloudmane4159]

Mud Storm

[@pk10006]

Colorless deck without Ugin? I must be halucinating.

[@DanyF02]

y u no ugin?

[@Mr_Stanley888]

Bring back the brown colour for artifacts. The new shit is difficult to tell between them and white. The old colour was way better.

[@CodfishJoe]

Lol this is a hard pivot away from the cycling deck

[@Nekeku]

Like most of your jank decks, its greatest strength is that your opponent probably doesn't understand what you're doing and doesn't know how to play against it. I lost to this earlier today because I thought I needed to play around Ugin.

[@chandrameijin2876]

Is Parqadox engine banned in EDH format ?

[@LegenVD]

I think so.

[@assidbath94]

how are you not having to deal with the timer?....i go faster than you do and i always run out of time before i can finish

[@LegenVD]

That's a contradiction.

[@assidbath94]

@@LegenVD well if it was a contradiction then id know why it was happening dont ya think?...my question was more about what do you think im doing wrong or what did you do to make it work for you.... i just cant and i never hover over cards and talk about them to an audience i dont have hence why i said i was doing it faster

[@LegenVD]

@@assidbath94 Make sure to float your mana by double tapping Q. Quickly go in and out of full control when going off with Engine and Forge.

[@thehoboshack5253]

Too bad you couldn't use Crucible of worlds, would have been good to recycle Blast zone.

[@magnusmungo7163]

How long til paradox engine gets banned?

[@dkznikolaj7013]

I feel like LVD is just looking for excuses to play colorless

[@Mickey20000000000000]

How do you tap ALL mana on arena?

[@LegenVD]

Double tap Q

[@Mickey20000000000000]

Thx!

[@jozefkeresturi2139]

No six mana ugin?

[@LegenVD]

It's an option, but it's not really needed now that we have Forsaken Monument to double our mana.

[@mentefiamma1744]

"bam"

[@polarmage2577]

Why no Jegantha as companion?

[@LegenVD]

I value my extra sideboard space.

[@polarmage2577]

@@LegenVD makes sense. Thanks for answer.

[@strahlungsopfer]

No creatures? Put Kaheera in the companion zone :D

[@LegenVD]

I think the extra sideboard slot might be more valuable.

[@strahlungsopfer]

@@LegenVD right, I spoke before thinking

[@alessiodvt]

exist a game like 'magic arena' for playing online but with all the card from the start and totally free? Also if it is so ugly and mechanism

[@williamedmonds8050]

The worst thing about these videos is them ending...

[@sp00kyi38]

Lol. 117 mana floating. Just scoop

[@marko6235]

MTG in a nutshell. to counter this infinite mana and ugin. you need to play mil exile decks -.-

[@guerilla_food]

Or just counterspells?

[@marko6235]

@@guerilla_food to much to counter

[@edoardospagnolo6252]

And that, kids, is why Paradox Engine is banned in Commander.

[@DoomSpellSkadi]

Kaladesh is just a broken set

[@bencouch1178]

Im really worried that Kaladesh just destroyed historic. I foresee some major bans are going to be needed on cards like aetherwork marvel. Like, they brought cards that were SUPER broken and just shoved them into historic. Mono brown decks are crazy broken right now, and they gave the already broken decks massive buffs.

[@Waghabond]

@@bencouch1178 yeah but the set is just so fun. Kaladesh has such cool mechanics

[@bencouch1178]

@@Waghabond I Totally agree. I love it, but there is no reason for aethorworks marvel to exist again. Honestly thats my main issue.

[@bencouch1178]

And get Ugin outta here. Theyre reprinting all of the broken artifacts. There was a whole big deal about them trying to fix colorless stuff by giving them colors but then they reprinted cards there was no reason to reprint. Dont get me wrong, I love mono-brown, but it should never be a good/meta deck.

[@Waghabond]

@@bencouch1178 yeah i agree with the sentiments on ugin and aetherworks for sure. as for the mono brown stuff, i think theres no harm in it ebing a meta deck tbh. The problem happens when the mono brown cards can just fit in wherever they want to be. Colourless NEEDS to be deisgned in such a way that even if it is strong, the only deck which can harness that power is a fully colourless deck. First step for that of course is STOP PRINTING CARDS LIKE UGIN AND MARVEL FFS. (i do understand though that its very hard to design cards which have dont have colours to restrict them from being put in any deck. wizards have to do better in anycase if they want to keep printing interesting colourless stuff.)

[@niccopaoletti3143]

Paradox engine must be banned