Mtg Double Deck Tech: Grixis Midrange (Pre and Post-Rotation)

[@moisesmela5091]

You just made my night Dev. Keep on being awesome.

[@Jesse110]

I love that the Nicol Bolas deck sides two of the gatewatch defeat cards.

[@ashadeofnight]

LOL that mafia impression

[@JackGamesTooMuch]

I love the Dev character voices... Always A+

[@jacobramp3854]

If you need to side board in against this, ajaini's last stand, pitch it to Nicky b and get a 4/4 that fights it in the air

[@snagzzzzz]

Also a great flavour win

[@maxwellmagiera9601]

Important note about Sarkhan and Grixis Dragons in general: we are going to see the Izzet Guild when all this stuff rotates. I'd say the odds are pretty good we see Niv-Mizzet or some Izzet dragon, and the Mana fixing Sarkhan provides will be sweet.

[@slaughtergames9770]

the Italian mafioso impression was priceless dev

[@chrisladouceur4093]

Thanks for including post-rotation. You should do that for all the non-budget decks on the set before rotation

[@Gimfigle496]

Man, the power gap between pre and post rotation is ridiculous. Great decks, dev. Grixis is just one of those colors with a lot of good stuff right now.

[@mercilessjutsu]

Nicky B and Bugsy rap forthcoming. Great video Dev as always.

[@evanbohart1649]

that is definitely the best mafia impersonation i have ever seen

[@dcnole]

Cool decks. Really interesting how little impact Dominaria has on this deck. 1 Cast Down (which could be replaced easily), 1 syncopate (which could be replaced easily), and a set of Sulpher Falls.

[@kairussell7372]

2:54 I immediately thought of the robot mafia from futuramma with that voice lol

[@JC83_]

Liked for the mafia impression. Also, just one more time, can you say "Suh-Boom-Tig" for your intro next vid. It sounds so cool.

[@nathanjacquart4395]

Post-rotation, Carnage Tyrant sees a significant resurgence in use. Calling it now. It appears to be the bane of both forms of this Grixis deck.

[@williamtorres4140]

Nathan Jacquart Let's hope this stupid anti Hexproof land doesn't kill his playability

[@vilestride335]

awesome vid dude. Great watch. glad to see the more top teir stuff on the channel. I think Grixis will do well post rotation.

[@SaltyHooligan]

Dev thank you so much for the deck tech for post rotation!

[@edgardrodriguez7574]

I was already drafting Grixis in draft and on the third pack I pulled my 3rd Nicol Bolas haha, good timing on the Grixis deck tech

[@boombox_up_to_11]

You should take a look at Dragon's Hoard. I have been playing a Monored (splashing for Nicol Bolas) Dragon deck using Wily Goblin, Dragon's Hoard, and Sarkhan for mana fixing to cast Nicol Bolas. The card draw off Dragon's Hoard is amazing. Once it's in play its recurring card draw for no additional mana investment. I also run Skirk Prospector so that Wily Goblin runs double mana dork duty. Often times I can sac Prospector turn 2 to cast either Hoard or Sarkhan. If I have neither in hand, I can instead cast a Wily Goblin turn 2, then on turn 3 I have 3 mana from lands, 2 from goblins, and 1 from treasure if need be, to cast everything from Bolas to Demanding Dragon to Glorybringer. I also have 2 copies of Verix, which with this much mana can often be kicked turn 4 or 5. The fact that there are a number of ways to cast turn 3 Glorybringer in my deck though, is downright fun.

[@goodnotgreatgaming1330]

Love the double deck techs sir! Actually looking forward to rotation, should be fun playing with different stuff

[@aaronmauger661]

“And Banefire to embarrass control..” ❤️

[@derrickswinney2297]

note to self: Nicky B and The Bugsie - great band name

[@matiasdemartini4820]

The Godfather IV starring Dev!

[@patrickcoldwell1958]

Nicky B and Bugsy the characters not in The Goodfellas. Lol

[@mikechurchill1071]

Been waiting for this deck tech all season now and been requesting it on every single other video that you did so now I have been obliged. This is the list that got second at the SCG Worcester I believe don’t quote me but I’m pretty sure it’s the one that got second. I really like the list been on it 3 weeks but I have made some small changes. First we added a second Lilliana deaths majesty it’s insane after they kill your turn 4 bolas to just play her and bring him right back for extra discard.! They are also zombies for the scarab god triggers and she just makes unlimited 2/2 zombies each turn. The main deck commit felt really slow so I’ve swapped it out and I’ve also removed the unlicensed D. There is hardly a time where it did the 3 extra dmg and with like 12 or more removal spells I felt it wasn’t very useful. I’ve swapped in 2 main deck essence scatters instead and have been very impressed with them. They deal with all the problems creature like rhonas and hazorat and can still counter anything else later game. I also cut 1 champions of wits for the extra Lilliana. I actually like your board a lot more than the stock ones they are playing 1 yehennies expertise and 1 hour of dev. I like the double hour and I’ve also cut the extra gearhulk and moved a sweltering suns into the board for mono red and aggro decks and vinemare.! I’ve gone 3-1 or better each time played it except for 1 2/2 when I played 2 mono red decks and 1 was flame of keld. Those decks are still super fast and get under us quick. The sweltering suns has helped a lot and so has the essence scatters. If you draw the wrong half of your deck like no early removal and get your creatures burned away it’s gonna be a steamroll. Excellent video been waiting for this and now I see which version you like. I will be playing a version of this deck or RB aggro or Mono Green Aggro at the RPTQ September 1st in San Diego wish me luck.

[@Dark-Hound]

You have two rotating lands in the rotation proof version. Higjlamd lake and submerged boneyard.

[@SH1014]

great deck tech, I'm currently running a slightly different version of Grixis midrange and am very curious to see what this deck will look like after we get them sweet, sweet Ravnica cards!!

[@snagzzzzz]

Built this deck on MTG Arena, so much fun to play! Seems to go really good against a lot of matchups, but I sadly lost to a mono white prison deck, all of my threats got exiled :(

[@jamfarts]

Could you do an updated standard U/G Merfolk?

[@vinrael7544]

I like Enigma Drake over Exclusion Mage in the post-rotation build, nice body and since most removal spells can go to opponents face it should be able to grow him very fast.... Furthermore, I don't see a good reason for the bounce with the access to all good removal stuff, but hey, at the end it's just a slotholder for whatever we get in fall.

[@jakeblottenberger3699]

Keep on being fucking awesome. I hope life treats you the best man.

[@pyronicdesign]

The version of grixis control I have been working on is a mostly blue black torment tempo deck. It's been pretty cheep but Id love to see a deck tec for a grixis torment deck

[@JohnSmith-fu2kz]

im not ready for rotation! i love my esper gpg deck waaay too much! Been going undefeated at fnm and other tournaments every time with ease

[@Arghore]

Not sure I agree with the power rankings on the 2nd deck, when comparing the various spells in both decks, the 2nd deck feels weaker in a lot of slots. I'd put it more in the 63+ range... maybe you'd like some arguments for that drop in power ranking: - We loose quite some versatility (dealing with artefacts, less exiling, whirler virtuoso & harness lightning ) - We loose quite some end game value (Scarab God, Lilly, Gearhulk) - We loose early board presence and value cards overall. - While we get some things in return, the plan of the deck becomes a lot more narrow. Obviously the deck still has a lot of power, but with an undetermined meta ahead that doesn't strike me as a plus for the deck overall. So giving it a score of 68 now feels a bit over confident, and even in the current meta a 68 compared to the 69 for the first list feels to high when comparing both decks as far as answers to the current meta are concerned. Still liked both though ^^ … and the video, tnx for sharing :)

[@pyronicdesign]

Yeaaah, im not sure we can handle Mono Green with this deck. Turn 3 and four Giganosaur is gonna be pretty scary

[@Goodluck-hd5gp]

Pyronic Studios you can with hostage taker side board as well as removal

[@Goodluck-hd5gp]

Pyronic Studios essence scatter vrask and hostage taker just save them for when he lands

[@Haustinj]

I need this mono blue artifacts list that everybodys talking about. Last week it was izzet.

[@Zerschnitzler77]

Haustinj its on mtg goldfish.

[@Haustinj]

Lunat!c awesome Ill take a look. Thank you so much.

[@whoknows814]

After rotation, i think Azor the law bringer is going to get much better

[@turnonesacredcat7923]

john schwachter i dont think so, it has no protection and is to slow, tefferi or chromium will be better as a control finisher

[@whoknows814]

Turn one Sacred Cat it is slow, but he can turn games around and protects itself from all but removal enchantments. I think it will work well with chromium and teferi. But it is definitely weak in the current standard

[@turnonesacredcat7923]

John it protects itself for one turn, sure you get in for six and then they kill it afterwards, if they have instant speed removal then it does nothing, you are just better off with tefferi a more powerful threat that can sorta protect itself or chromium which is a three turn clock and really hard to get rid of.

[@username14219]

Yes! I've been looking forward to this deck tech!

[@Jonzin4BeatzNYC]

Being an Italian from the Bronx who may or may not have encountered real wise guys, that was a terrible impression Dev lol

[@wickedmosher]

Nikki B and Bugsy, friggen awesome.

[@jaye3471]

Could you do an update on Post-Rotation decklist when we get more about ravnica please?

[@nicholashardy8863]

Hey dev, love the new bolas. I knew it was gonna be beast. Im trying out a weird infinite combo deck with huatli ultimate and the locust god, using mana fixers. what are your thoughts? I like it because once you got the hustling emblem you can just stall out the game, then the turn you play the locust god, you just win. Kinda reminds me of the saheeli cat combo days.

[@chromaticcaos]

Hey dev, you talk like you test your decks before making a deck tech. Could you record those matches because I think it would be interesting to see you play it. (Edit: I know about sideboard MTG but seeing dev play the deck sounds great)

[@Alexander_Chase22]

Would you consider adding any of the GRN cards to the post rotation list? Also maybe replace the Phoenixs with Verix to justify some dragons hoards? Trying to figure out a solid dragon deck post rotation. I really like expansion/explosion but don't know if it fits well enough.

[@senpaibos2748]

Needs more angrath and karn with vile offering. Vile offering is broken also lannery over mage if you go that route

[@GLHFMtG]

8k more til 100k! Loving it Dev. Audio Intros?

[@ebarocks]

Right where did they go

[@ahrenstarr6273]

What about Dragon's Horde over Treasure Map?

[@higgtz]

Rakdos control rotation proof :)

[@DJ-rh3wh]

Control is going to hard to build until we see what decks are going to be standard staples post-rotation imo

[@CatcherofPearls]

Dude, thanks for the vids man!

[@valhallen4876]

Great stuff dude!

[@kingderp1]

Love you, Dev

[@vascosazijim3212]

hey man im buying the hugo carlsson grixis control and it has one angrath but i was thinking on also buying a chandra tod and have it on sideboard to replace angrath when i need a little more removal would very much aprecciate a response since im buying the deck tommorow most likely anyways thx in advance l ur vids man keep it up

[@coreykline8916]

Would it be wrong to play Cut//Ribbons over harnessed lightning? I've just seen so many close games decided by that extra reach it's hard to not want to play it.

[@dangottsacker2061]

Commit can also delay a banefire.

[@josephbelmaresiii7682]

Nice view on 2 decks

[@PraetorGix]

Why not fatal push instead of some of the red removal?

[@Zerschnitzler77]

i need a ur or ub or grixis artifacts list with jhoira and teferi or the artifact saga real bad right now 😀 where does one even start? how many artifacta do i need for such decks?

[@rexone9564]

Good times! Links aren’t working?

[@redlion145]

Wait, how can Torrential Gearhulk hit a Sorcery in the graveyard? It specifically mentions Instants in the text.

[@Azurann]

The top part of the card decides what the whole card is considered as as far as cards that care about types goes. It doesn't suddenly just become memory in the graveyard, that's part of the whole card.

[@WakeUpUniverse66]

DEV YOU ARE MAD! YOU ALMOST SAID BEETLEJUICE 3 TIMES!!!!!!

[@WakeUpUniverse66]

FUCK YOU JUST SAID IT A 3RD TIME! I WAS TOO LATE OOOOOH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[@donchameleon4916]

Where do I donate to hear more mob stories of Nick B and Bugsy?

[@leebegin4168]

You missed the synergy where liliana creates zombies to add to “x” cost of Scarab god

[@Svydnar]

Maybe it's just me, but I think Nicol Bolas is bad. Everytime I play against it, I deal with it just too easily. And it pretty much never flips. I don't know why it went up in price, I got rid of mine as soon as I could since I'm sure it won't actually retain it's high cost right now.

[@dustindummel2021]

Rotation proof budget, fine sir?!?

[@jackpabich763]

Anyone know why Disallow isn't in the common version?

[@aaronmauger661]

Jack Pabich it costs 1UU, UU is “too expensive” for the splash of Blue. You get all the removal you need in Red & Black, the Blue is for 1) casting Nicol Bolas 2) Card Draw 3) Counter Opponent’s Bombs/Removal

[@JohnQueSacc]

Jack Pabich I'd still run it

[@williamoldaker5348]

Can you please remake this deck with cards from GOR ??

[@cmac9088]

When does Scarab rotate ? Sick of playing against it. Should of been a 5/4.

[@lynnica5219]

C Mac In October. All of Kaladesh/Amohnket blocks rotate in Oct.

[@cmac9088]

Erica Savage ty and good

[@kinqisaiahhh1618]

10th comment Could you do a U/R Wizards rotation proof? Like so he could see

[@gmorkins6006]

I could see myself playing this post-rotation.

[@kinqisaiahhh1618]

I would if I wasn't broke haha.

[@jredmc1234]

lol i had to minimize the window and immediately upvote because of the Niki B Bugsy mob joke

[@ebarocks]

First one was almost a copy of Grixis midrange on mtggoldfish so yeah.

[@SBMTG]

It’s a copy of the the two decks that placed highly at scg classic events, actually

[@xmiiasma3997]

What is blue black supposed to do at rotation? Lol

[@Zerschnitzler77]

x Miiasma dont worry, the dimir guild of ravnica will bring new strategies into standard

[@yancy9455]

U/b is dead and red is dead the amonkhet version

[@nicolassznajder780]

No better comination than nicky B and scarab god ? What about nicky B into lilliana, death majesty that gets Nicky B back ?

[@fandomewhisper]

2:58 😂😂😂

[@TrueTgirl]

Ah yes, Ravnica spoiler season. Soon, very soon. I don't care what it takes or how janky it'll be, I am going to play a standard Boros deck.

[@raistrose7773]

Please make Goblins for Core Set!

[@itsapps9556]

But.......You don’t know what’s in the new set yet

[@coachjuan2740]

why is it called Grixis Midrange?

[@JohnSmith-fu2kz]

esper rotation proof????? plz do it!

[@victorbelber6059]

Yo dev have you ever went up against someone that was using a deck that you made.

[@SBMTG]

Lots of times

[@vincentcaranfa6734]

Do a Elves deck on modern

[@silverknight6831]

MtGA Grixes control/burn I hate that deck. The midrange is a pain but my mono green at least has a chance against it.

[@jordangross1005]

Could you do rotation proof bw knights

[@SlyBlu7]

Most of the B/W Knight decks are already pretty close to being rotation proof. It's not like we're pulling tons of Knights out of Khaladesh or Amonkhet :/ Removal is close to a 1:1 on swaps. Fumigate goes out, Settle goes in. You've got dealer's choice of Murder, Cast Down, Walk the Plank, and possibly Moment of Craving to swap in for Fatal Push. Remember, the format is slowing down by maybe a half-step or step, and possibly even *more* in the competitive scene where Energy is still keeping people gassed up. Having to pay 2CMC instead of 1, isn't as bad as it looks. Plus, wait until we see what we get out of Ravnica (probably few/no Knights, but other good Orzhov support)

[@jordangross1005]

Thank you

[@jordangross1005]

Would mono green be better than knights

[@SlyBlu7]

Maybe? It will depend on meta and your playstyle. Mono-G is about getting big creatures on the field ahead of schedule. It's an aggressive strategy; very straightforward stuff. Play your ramp, then play the biggest creature in your hand. It's not a "pure" aggro deck though; Mono-R with Chainwhirler and "burn to face" spells or possibly even "UR a Wizard" decks prioritizing burn over control, will potentially "outrun" you before you can ramp into Ghalta or Carnage and finish it out. You also have very little interaction; your opponent is going to resolve cards, and you're gonna have to grit your teeth and power through. Mono-Green basically does 1 thing, but does it much better than anyone else. Knights are a tribal strategy. They go wide with tokens and lower, aggressive drops and then use Lord effects like Benalish Marshal to bump their little 2/2 bodies up beyond what a 2CMC would usually offer. What's keeping Knights in the game (in my opinion) is Dauntless Bodyguard protecting those lords, and the fact that W/B has great removal and answer pieces. If you want to get a little deeper, strategically, you could also add elements of the B/W Lifegain suite, which will make you more resilient against Aggro, or the Black Reanimator stuff to make you better against Control. The biggest issue with Knights (from my perspective) is finding some form of card-draw to keep it gassed up. I think both decks are going to be competitive, certainly at a Casual/FNM level. We've seen iterations of both showing up on the competitive radar and making an impact, so I can imagine that trend will continue post-rotation.

[@jordangross1005]

Thank you.

[@Ceebs4Mayor]

Bring back music intros!!!

[@JohnQueSacc]

There's no way thay card stays at 40$

[@Stat1stique]

Nicky B :p

[@turnonesacredcat7923]

why no goblin chainwhiler?

[@aydensauvageau9393]

Turn one Sacred Cat triple red in a 3 color deck

[@turnonesacredcat7923]

Ayden that is easily doable most grixis lists are playing it. If you take outfield of ruin and add mountains(and center the lands a bit heavier towards red) it can easily be done

[@D3ath3657]

4 Æther Hub 4 Canyon Slough 4 Dragonskull Summit 4 Fetid Pools 1 Island 2 Mountain 2 Spirebluff Canal 4 Sulfur Falls 1 Swamp 15 blue sources for Torrential Gearhulk; 17 black sources-one short of the optimal 18-for Vraska's Contempt; 20 red sources for Chainwhirler, which granted is a bit low (the ideal number is 22), but Flame of Keld decks play about that many mountains, and they still run it.

[@skylinesmustfall]

I am running chainwhirlers and chandra in my grixis list. Works well!

[@alexandercollingsworth9257]

Were you aware that bolas means balls in Swahili?

[@machochocolate7679]

Alexander Collingsworth not the only language either lol

[@charlesyoung601]

Mafia accent sounds like ghostface killah

[@anthonyaquariusmontoya1157]

I would just play it in modern

[@ronmarshall1566]

Whatz upp😝

[@stasyszy]

Jund deck, make one it works :)

[@d.f.9140]

duuude skip that scrarab god.. make 2 or 3 liliana, 2 or 3 sarkhan a couple of skeleton dragon, skithiryx (or htf he is spelled) or boneyard scourge and Bladewing (etb !!!) then death baron lilianas mastery keep bolas in, make it a draw/discard engine with control b/u/r do it and your green nightmare could end, in this version the deck gets wayyyy more speed and aggro in earlygame keep in mind midrange with 3 colours can be really draw heavy and this could lead in mana lag, so sarkhan is a no brainer with bolas and in fact liliana too. Dragon zombie combo for the win^^

[@kieran1229]

First

[@Ricardo8388]

Decks with 3 ebola's which almost no one will be able to get.. really usefull.

[@jakebaker2486]

Mines budget.

[@Nights_Gaming]

mine

[@turnonesacredcat7923]

Fermin Teron really?

[@Zaknyfein]

Nicol Bolas ensures that the Standard environment will stay very unhealthy for the next couple of years unless Wizards are prepared to design creatures of equivalent power in other colours to provide variety and competition....And then you have the Grixis crowd telling us all that Vine Mare is an unfair card.

[@jacksonjabba]

Second

[@jacksonjabba]

Wait third

[@Rotten_Appplez]

No one cares

[@jacksonjabba]

Well the fact I got a response says otherwise...

[@Rotten_Appplez]

BEARly Monetized WRONG

[@jacksonjabba]

Why are you still here

[@nonofyabidnez5737]

Scarab God is such a disgusting nooby card. No skill required.

[@jordangross1005]

Could you do bw knights rotation proof