MTG Top 10: Planeswalkers | Magic: the Gathering | Episode 329

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@stepniak18
@stepniak18 3 жыл бұрын
Nizzahon: Teferi had not much time to earn points. Teferi: I have all the time I want.
@Blacturne859
@Blacturne859 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@megatenshi
@megatenshi 3 жыл бұрын
I love that Narset Parter of Veils has a massive number of points, is restricted in Vintage, and sees all kinds of play, yet she's a 99 cent uncommon Gotta love the value
@jojodelacroix
@jojodelacroix 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Being newer to magic i didnt even realize there were uncommon planeswalkers until a few days ago. Glad to know at least one was really useful.
@sharlockshacolmes9381
@sharlockshacolmes9381 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that Oko manages to be on this list even after being turbo banned from every format possible is a testament on how dumb this card was and I love it.
@caseywellington4761
@caseywellington4761 3 жыл бұрын
It's also a testament to how long it takes for Wizards to recognize banworthy cards.
@mazereon
@mazereon 3 жыл бұрын
@@caseywellington4761 I think they know pretty damn well in most cases, but banning a chase rare/mythic in a new set wouldn't keep people buying packs. People bitch about standard but (COVID aside) they kept playing it, so the financial incentive on WOTC is to ignore complaining and then ban cards shortly before rotation so they can pretend they listen.
@oORoOFLOo
@oORoOFLOo 3 жыл бұрын
@@mazereon Highly doubt is thriving or would be in terms of cashflow. Lots of people defo stopped due to powercreep, bannings etc.
@mazereon
@mazereon 3 жыл бұрын
@@oORoOFLOo I can't post a link on here mate but Google Hasbro's financial statements. Magic is making a hell of a lot of money - the people you see complaining are a vocal minority and most people just keep buying stuff even when they complain.
@Aliens1337
@Aliens1337 3 жыл бұрын
This comment is now a 3/3 Elk.
@CmdrUD87
@CmdrUD87 3 жыл бұрын
"And the number one card is, of course, Deathrite Shaman" :D
@smurffy5330
@smurffy5330 3 жыл бұрын
That’s actually not a planeswalker if you didn’t know 😂🤡
@CmdrUD87
@CmdrUD87 3 жыл бұрын
@@smurffy5330 Well, it's pushed, can be activated once a turn cycle and has three abilities... sounds like a planeswalker to me :p
@smurffy5330
@smurffy5330 3 жыл бұрын
@@CmdrUD87 ah, but what u have missed here sir is that the card in question indeed says “creature”.
@thefungus4641
@thefungus4641 3 жыл бұрын
@@smurffy5330 I bet you think you're intelligent
@smurffy5330
@smurffy5330 3 жыл бұрын
@@thefungus4641 yes I am indeed more intelligent than you my guy 😂 you don’t have to brag about your stupidity
@volk551
@volk551 3 жыл бұрын
I had a comment but it was turned into a 3/3 Elk.
@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor 3 жыл бұрын
Not to be confused with "Top 10 Plainswalkers", the far superior mechanic. It's great that we've seen this list thrice now. Especially since certain Planeswalkers see a tonne of play in Vintage. Speaking of, you should do "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)", although I would also accept "Top 10 Plainswalkers".
@destructimus
@destructimus 3 жыл бұрын
Lol isn't there only one card with plainswalk?
@Reluxthelegend
@Reluxthelegend 3 жыл бұрын
@@destructimus two actually.
@ashra8281
@ashra8281 3 жыл бұрын
1) Mental Misstep 2) Force of will 3) leyline of the void 4) Gitaxian Probe 5) Brainstorm 6) ponder 7) flusterstorm 8) preordain 9) force of negation 10) narset parter of veils pls not this is not the ones with the most points, just the ones that see the most play now, because i am lazy. Also only looking and vintage. Also yay leyline for not being blue
@TheMajesticYak0
@TheMajesticYak0 3 жыл бұрын
@@destructimus No actually 4 cards - Boggart Arsonists, Graceful Antelope, Righteous Avengers, and Zodiac Rooster, one more if you could the silver-bordered Old Fogey. Plus one enchantment that grants plainswalk - Aysen Highway. Which I now want to buy so I can build a "Plainswalker" EDH deck
@c.jhamblin5759
@c.jhamblin5759 3 жыл бұрын
One day drew
@SpitefulAZ
@SpitefulAZ 3 жыл бұрын
i love that the reminder of how you rank the cards uses the artwork for Captive Audience.
@kriosuranous3440
@kriosuranous3440 3 жыл бұрын
It’s kinda funny that a third of the top 15 had between 100-106 points.
@cdanggg
@cdanggg 3 жыл бұрын
It kinda shows that while all these new walkers are busted, they are EQUALLY busted. Good job wizards 🙄
@panko2848
@panko2848 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that Karn could go from 10th to 15th while gaining points in less than 2 years is a real testament to just how broken the last few years of magic has been
@oafkad
@oafkad 3 жыл бұрын
Pleasant kenobi did a video on Oko where actually a lot of the early impressions were that he was bonkers. He went looking to show nobody saw it coming but it turned out tons and tons of people did.
@Vesdus
@Vesdus 3 жыл бұрын
LSV called Oko the best Planeswalker ever printed as soon as it was spoiled. I agreed then, and still believe that now.
@pelegshilo6358
@pelegshilo6358 3 жыл бұрын
I was very high variance. I remember specifically one guy on reddit who got highly upvoted, claiming that Oko being played in an urza list was a mistake and a fluke. Those lists were the ones who went on to dominate the format with the help of Oko. I thought Oko was stronger than most people thought he was back then, and I still underestimated him.
@SmartAlec1
@SmartAlec1 Жыл бұрын
So did magic aids. Magic aids is probably the most skilled magic creator on the platform tbh
@jacksonpaley4051
@jacksonpaley4051 3 жыл бұрын
Whoa! Tibalt at #1!? Would never have guessed!!
@Tomovanlaanen
@Tomovanlaanen 3 жыл бұрын
This comment has aged a little too well 😅
@algorithmgaming1578
@algorithmgaming1578 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't finished the video, hoping its a joke
@algorithmgaming1578
@algorithmgaming1578 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tomovanlaanen yes, yes it does
@YesIAmThatCoolBitch
@YesIAmThatCoolBitch 3 жыл бұрын
Oko and 3 mana Teferi: WTF Wizards?!
@Zeitmass
@Zeitmass Жыл бұрын
Jace the Mind Sculptor is my favorite not only because he is by far the coolest and most iconic of all the planeswalkers imo but because my brother gave me his foil version of worldwake when i was very young. Since then i play Mtg.
@corey2232
@corey2232 3 жыл бұрын
You should also mention like Teferi, Jace's Standard banning got panned for coming way too late as well. He'd already been a $100+ Standard card & dominating the format for a a year and a half & only had several months before rotation.
@ElPanadero18
@ElPanadero18 3 жыл бұрын
This was a really fun list! I loved the comparison of points over the years.
@Vesdus
@Vesdus 3 жыл бұрын
I did not see Lilliana, The Last Hope making it on this list. Very eye-opening.
@aleksandarmilosevic6067
@aleksandarmilosevic6067 3 жыл бұрын
I think that if we just look at the power level of cards, Oko is stronger then boogie man, which is why he was banned out of 4 formats
@latrodectusmactans7592
@latrodectusmactans7592 3 жыл бұрын
Oko is easily the strongest. There are even calls for him to be banned from Legacy. He just takes over the game against any deck that cares about the board, and is always the best thing you can be doing on the board.
@enugie
@enugie Жыл бұрын
Oko would be top 1 already if he didnt got banned
@germanyjones2700
@germanyjones2700 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Doc ‘Hon we always appreciate your work and passion. I absolutely love the addition of the prices as you move through these cards
@TheEntrncd
@TheEntrncd 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised wrenn and six didn't make the list
@soxhater819
@soxhater819 3 жыл бұрын
W6 is an absolutely busted card, but it being rather new, coupled with the fact that it’s banned in the format it saw the most play, shows it can’t make this list. Which is crazy to think, because it’s definitely one of the best planeswalkers of all time
@imperium3556
@imperium3556 3 жыл бұрын
Also there have been a ton more Standard events than Modern/Legacy in the last couple of years (even ignoring the effect of the pandemic). If you look at the cards that are on the list, a strong Standard showing is basically mandatory to get on it, which rules out cards that aren't legal there.
@davidminor4213
@davidminor4213 3 жыл бұрын
I'm shocked that Ashiok didn't make it
@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS
@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS 3 жыл бұрын
W6 doesn’t see play in standard or pioneer which kneecaps it’s score. it’s also banned in lrgacy
@doombot2405
@doombot2405 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm glad you went top 15 to explore the shake up in list order and I really liked seeing the card kingdom price in the side info box.
@AnonymousAnonposter
@AnonymousAnonposter 3 жыл бұрын
During all these years watching and enjoying your videos I always thought of something that I never expressed before. It's about your ranking and points. Imo, legacy and vintage points should worth way more than standard and more than modern too. After all, those formats are way more powerful.
@oliverwilson11
@oliverwilson11 3 жыл бұрын
He says in every video "based on their historical performance at Magic's highest level of competition". Not based on their power. You could maybe even argue that Legacy and Vintage shouldn't be considered part of Magic's highest level of competition because they aren't Pro Tour formats.
@sammysammyson
@sammysammyson 3 жыл бұрын
As mentioned, it's about their performance in competitive Magic, not necessarily how "powerful" they are. Plus, cards played in Vintage and Legacy aren't necessarily powerful, but rather efficient. The cards that see play are often just the best cards with similar effects; i.e. Delver of Secrets is the most efficient one-drop; Bob (Dark Confidant) is the most efficient Bob; etc. Not to mention that how powerful a card is depends on the meta.
@weaselhatgaming1010
@weaselhatgaming1010 3 жыл бұрын
Mark rosewater is number one planeswalker
@overtotter8639
@overtotter8639 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear Gideon Ally Of Zendikar is good. I wasn't aware of his status when making my knight tribal deck, which has a gems like "Righteous Confluence," and "Knight Exemplar."
@tygonmaster
@tygonmaster 3 жыл бұрын
Neat to see the updated list here. It honestly is crazy (and annoying) how much they have pushed walkers and this just shows how hard they have been pushed. Oko is indeed broko.
@corey2232
@corey2232 3 жыл бұрын
Looking at this list & all the recent cards that became so dominant so fast, it scares me to think what WotC is going to print next...
@victoraguirre7486
@victoraguirre7486 3 жыл бұрын
Just noticed that you are now showing the CK price. Nice!
@vinnythewebsurfer
@vinnythewebsurfer 3 жыл бұрын
Not even wotc thought “wait people will turn OTHER people’s cards into Elks?” It’s one thing to make this type of oversight 20 years ago when they didn’t even understand how magic as a game was suppose to function, it’s just downright embarrassing now especially since it’s wotc’s staff vs the supercomputer that is the rest of the internet
@imperium3556
@imperium3556 3 жыл бұрын
"We couldn't have expected that permanents with abilities are valuable."
@JustSoggyBread
@JustSoggyBread 3 жыл бұрын
According to WotC sources, Oko's story is similar to Skullclamp. Original Oko could only elk your own stuff, and he only got the ability to elk other people's stuff later during development, and people just kept using him like they had for the past year or so of testing. So surprisingly, yeah, you're actually kind of right.
@ashra8281
@ashra8281 3 жыл бұрын
@@JustSoggyBread yep, they also said they didn't think he would be that good in agro decks, but the mad lad playing him in modern burn proved that wrong
@omgopet
@omgopet 3 жыл бұрын
They also thought that putting 2 creatures rom your top 7 cards directly onto the battlefield at instant speed for 4 mana would only be used in gimmick decks if they limit the creatures to cmc 3 or less.
@3kojimbles895
@3kojimbles895 3 жыл бұрын
@@ashra8281 who played him in fucking modern burn?
@Reliquancy
@Reliquancy 3 жыл бұрын
Why is there such a thing as a premiere? Does anyone want to see notifications for videos they can’t watch yet?
@ecg3803
@ecg3803 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, except when its like a live streaming or and event with a long annoucment date
@Reliquancy
@Reliquancy 3 жыл бұрын
@@ecg3803 I guess I can see those too, but not for stuff like this.
@ecg3803
@ecg3803 3 жыл бұрын
​@@Reliquancy even less necesary because we all know wednesday is a top ten video, and its part of the charm of it don't know which kind of top would be
@SpitefulAZ
@SpitefulAZ 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed; i hate the premier function also. "Hey here's a video you can't watch" 😅
@slendyspy2675
@slendyspy2675 3 жыл бұрын
Premieres serve as a way to get hyped for an upcoming video and watch it live with other fans of the channel, as well as talk with said fans during the premiere. I don't see a problem with it.
@Graatand
@Graatand 3 жыл бұрын
Who could have leapt high up onto the list I wonder? 🤔 Maybe a 3-mana planeswalker who was banned in Standard? Maybe even two of them? Maybe even a 2-mana planeswalker!
@caseywellington4761
@caseywellington4761 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmmmmm. Who could say? 🤔🤔🤔
@n.m5253
@n.m5253 3 жыл бұрын
I heard it has something to do with elks but that sounds like a fable.
@ecg3803
@ecg3803 3 жыл бұрын
i see a teferi in our future (3 mana one)
@llongone2
@llongone2 3 жыл бұрын
Let's slow things down...and think about who it could be.
@Closer2Zero
@Closer2Zero 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see some of these; Top 10 Double Faced cards, with the modal lands out, and how popular they seem to be, I’d love to see a list of the most power of all the double faced cards. They’re honestly my fav ever since werewolves And i dont know if you dont this but, with the new gods coming out in the next set, I’d love to see a list of the most powerful gods
@doormatt72
@doormatt72 3 жыл бұрын
he has done a list of gods before. it wasn't that long ago, and since all the recent gods have had such little impact, i'd imagine the list hasn't changed much (if at all)
@yohanesparuntu4980
@yohanesparuntu4980 3 жыл бұрын
You don’t need zombies for Liliana. She makes it herself
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 3 жыл бұрын
Well, yeah, but she needs zombies to really get full value out of that ultimate. Sure, she can make 2 and then 4 and so forth, but she is way better if you have zombies on the board already.
@j-rey-
@j-rey- 3 жыл бұрын
And in formats other than Standard, the game can be over before she even ultimates.
@PawzBrownMTG
@PawzBrownMTG 3 жыл бұрын
Great video I hope to see another Plainswaker come up in the list from a new set maybe
@arthurmcaryanmcnuggetsblackone
@arthurmcaryanmcnuggetsblackone 3 жыл бұрын
Been watching top tens non stop
@brianwalters8641
@brianwalters8641 3 жыл бұрын
I love Teferi but I hate his cards for breaking Standard.
@blakecandesign9628
@blakecandesign9628 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@hanshatner
@hanshatner 3 жыл бұрын
He made me stop playing standard. Thank you Mr. Teferi, you made me not suffer becoming an Elk.
@blakecandesign9628
@blakecandesign9628 3 жыл бұрын
@@hanshatner - I took a break from standard because of Oko. Only started back up again once Oko + T3feri were both banned.
@Tirvops
@Tirvops 3 жыл бұрын
He is a cool character, not a cool card
@09Dragonite
@09Dragonite 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, T3feri and Hero were nasty. Oko being printed in between the two and Narset being thrown into the mix was all just poor release design... Not to mention Uro and then a land based set following up several land based ramp centric meta shifts... I LOVE ZNR, but I think it would've been better for the cards to see play further away from Nissa, Azusa, Lotus Cobra, Uro, Cultivate, and friends. Not that I don't like ramp lists, just that it was too much for one standard to deal with.
@felipeluz5035
@felipeluz5035 3 жыл бұрын
Videos that compare current cards to old ones are really interesting xD
@taylorolson6228
@taylorolson6228 3 жыл бұрын
will we ever get a list 'top mtg cards' ? i think it would be cool to review the best cards we have gone over if researching that wouldnt be too hard
@JamiesonLock
@JamiesonLock 3 жыл бұрын
My brain decided to point out that you stopped using # for the rankings on Liliana of the Veil and now I can't unsee it.
@shrek2ondvd985
@shrek2ondvd985 3 жыл бұрын
Anybody else having Oko flashbacks..?
@dafewger
@dafewger 3 жыл бұрын
It was terrible... There were Elks everywhere... EVERYWHERE!
@auraaetherbladesigma6939
@auraaetherbladesigma6939 3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@sammysammyson
@sammysammyson 3 жыл бұрын
I don't want to think about *that* time.
@QuesadillaJay
@QuesadillaJay 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t get me started...
@LukePackenham
@LukePackenham 3 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting due to oko, teferi, ugin, and others
@travisrichards6162
@travisrichards6162 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever thought about some commander top ten lists? It just feels like the top 10 would be completely different if you included commander. I get the scale you use, missing the commander format is the only flaw. Thanks for the content, always fun to watch!
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 3 жыл бұрын
I think measuring commander and competitive Magic are two very, very different things. You are right that the list would be different, but I don't think the two things should be combined in my analysis. It is apples and oranges.
@nijian32
@nijian32 Жыл бұрын
Gosh, I remember when Jace TMS was printed... was a glorious nightmare we lived..... LOL!
@CiscoDuran
@CiscoDuran 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Nizzahon, I love this series and I wanted to ask a question... Are the lists influenced by the number of high-level tournaments that are held nowadays vs. in the past? I mean if there are more tournaments per year now doesn't allow cards to rack much highers counts now than cards from sets way back?
@emperornapoleon6204
@emperornapoleon6204 3 жыл бұрын
I brewed and played a BUG midrange deck in modern and had Liliana, the Last Hope as the planeswalker in the deck. Only creatures were Uro, Snappy, Goyf, and Confidant. No zombies. The ultimate still won the game every time I got it.
@faerie7dragon
@faerie7dragon 3 жыл бұрын
So nice to still see Elspeth and Gideon on this list, White needs more Planeswalkers like that.
@Logan-lz5gu
@Logan-lz5gu 3 жыл бұрын
the Elspeth from Theros Beyond Death is so bad. I wish Sun's Champion was in Standard. I have a soft spot for that card.
@ettoreozzy9932
@ettoreozzy9932 3 жыл бұрын
Is astonishing how much points Gideon, Ally of Zendikar got from standard to still be above Liliana of the Veil and Teferi Time Raveler. Also I'm shocked Wrenn and Six didn't get a spot on the list!
@narutolover1286
@narutolover1286 3 жыл бұрын
*thinks to self at #2* "where is mind sculpto---- there he is."
@PetalGamesStudios
@PetalGamesStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Jace the Chad Sculptor staying there
@Tirvops
@Tirvops 3 жыл бұрын
Chad Mind Sculptor vs Virgin Elk Turner
@mikeymikey4946
@mikeymikey4946 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda surprised to not hear a mention of wrenn and six but not really
@Graatand
@Graatand 3 жыл бұрын
18:02 No one has thought that since Oko was printed.
@qqpit1
@qqpit1 3 жыл бұрын
Ugin has been seeing a little play in Legacy in colorless post, though I'm not sure it's gained any points in that format yet.
@kitsovereign4127
@kitsovereign4127 3 жыл бұрын
Was Wrenn and Six anywhere near the list? I'm guessing not since it didn't pass through Standard and then it got a Legacy ban, but I'm kind of curious where it would have landed.
@MrJ6H
@MrJ6H 3 жыл бұрын
Question on scoring: on the points breakdown, how can Legacy end up in an odd number when worth two points? Ty
@fidly4
@fidly4 3 жыл бұрын
There are legacy grand prix.
@exiledhero3791
@exiledhero3791 3 жыл бұрын
I had an oko, and when it was rumored that he’d be banned, I traded him away
@akitoemery8651
@akitoemery8651 2 жыл бұрын
3/3elk>time raveler>boogie man>hero of dominaria>wrenn&6>all other planeswalkers
@Gingerbreadley
@Gingerbreadley 3 жыл бұрын
Fight the good fight lili and Elspeth
@natashasurvivallady8021
@natashasurvivallady8021 3 жыл бұрын
*Fist to heart in solidarity*
@antoniobush4560
@antoniobush4560 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like oko is probably more powerful than jace and would've caught up to him, but oko was banned in modern. Its honestly kinda impressive they managed to make a walker more busted than jace
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that Jace was also banned in both Standard and Modern.
@PMKNK1NG
@PMKNK1NG 3 жыл бұрын
Its gonna be good
@0CheeseEgg0
@0CheeseEgg0 2 жыл бұрын
Every time he gets to Liliana, The Last Hope, he comments on how "mediocre" her ultimate is, when not in a zombie deck. I'm not sure if he has just never played with her in a superfriends/control deck setting, or what, but he is certainly undervaluing how quickly those free zombies every turn starts adding up, even without any initial zombies. I usually agree with what he has to say, but this is one card I feel like his take has been wrong all three times he has mentioned it on his lists.
@zoopdoop_games
@zoopdoop_games 3 жыл бұрын
I really feel like if they swapped Time Ravler's passive and +1 he would've been alot more fair still strong but at least you would be able to respond to someone dropping a teferi on the turn they play it
@justlolaman
@justlolaman 3 жыл бұрын
Still weirded out that people didn't realise how strong Oko was going to be. I remember scolding one of my students for thinking it wont perform well in limited (that was before the set got released) I remember telling him that they made a typo or something and that the Oko will not be released as it was spoiled. Guess we were both wrong..
@mrpinguimninja
@mrpinguimninja 3 жыл бұрын
I can't explain how dirty this video made me feel. After seeing so many 2019+ cards, I had to take a shower and set myself on fire afterwards
@chinggismcknight2931
@chinggismcknight2931 3 жыл бұрын
I pulled Teferi hero of dominaria out of a booster pack, lucky me
@noahmurtha4036
@noahmurtha4036 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if saheeli hadn’t gotten the ban hammer so aggressively, if she’d be anywhere in the list
@cwjdog57
@cwjdog57 3 жыл бұрын
Man I am SHOCKED that Wrenn and Six doesn't crack into the top 3, that's absolutely insane to me considering it's power level.
@Nightmare-bn4sr
@Nightmare-bn4sr 2 жыл бұрын
Too much emphasis on standard did that. Wrenn and Six is insanely better on a format with fetchlands, wastelands and strip mine.
@gmpd4191
@gmpd4191 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for moving the price
@RV1AND
@RV1AND 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty crazy how T3feri was panned as "having been banned too late" despite Gideon having 40% more standard points. Just goes to show that the playerbase has changed, they simply demand more bans nowadays. Which makes perfect sense, considering with MTGA there's more standard magic being played then ever before, which means the standard meta needs to shift at a quicker pace to keep up.
@danamaniac66
@danamaniac66 3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious how high Oko would be if he hadn't been almost immediately banned in nearly every format, he had a strangle hold on like 4 formats for about a month
@n.m5253
@n.m5253 3 жыл бұрын
Top 3 for sure. Maybe even number 1. I'm pretty sure he would've overtaken Jace sooner or later
@riddick1128
@riddick1128 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Wrenn and Six isnt on the list but I guess not being in standard will do that to you
@caseywellington4761
@caseywellington4761 3 жыл бұрын
And getting banned in the format it was created for...
@slendyspy2675
@slendyspy2675 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video, planeswalkers are so much fun.
@llongone2
@llongone2 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, yes, "Nissa, Who Wins The Game Easily"...I hate that card.
@Vesdus
@Vesdus 3 жыл бұрын
Nissa, Who Shakes them Tittie$
@Wintersmith12
@Wintersmith12 3 жыл бұрын
lol I only just now noticed the "white knight ally" name of Gideon's tokens. M'LADY *tips fedora*
@JonaxII
@JonaxII 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, Jace is only the second strongest Walker ever. The issue is that the actual number one has had virtually no opportunity to accrue points due to very quick bans in most formats. I was actually surprised to see that one even make the list, because sure, he made a lot of wind while he was legal, but i hadn't expected that to be enough points for the top ten.
@geinerelizondo2019
@geinerelizondo2019 3 жыл бұрын
5 hours before the videos, my guess is: 1 - Karn 2 - Teferi 3 - Oko 4 - Ugin 5 - Sorin In general, not a single card in particular!
@goransekulic3671
@goransekulic3671 3 жыл бұрын
The power creep is out of control imo.
@anishvarsingaram3525
@anishvarsingaram3525 3 жыл бұрын
Well it's in control in the case of T3feri and Narset
@goransekulic3671
@goransekulic3671 3 жыл бұрын
@@anishvarsingaram3525 In kind of a drastic way, but yeah.I remember seeing Steel Leaf or Chainwhorler or Experimental for the first time. Power Creep? No way. :)
@TomGalonska
@TomGalonska 3 жыл бұрын
Just imagine where Oko would be, if not banned in all but Legacy and Vintage :D Probably close to JtMS. And since Oko arrived there is a debate if JtMS is still the best oO
@latrodectusmactans7592
@latrodectusmactans7592 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think there’s even a debate at this point. In any format where the two are legal together, Oko is far better.
@joshifan29
@joshifan29 6 ай бұрын
Not sure if this is different compared to Arena, but I'm having a hard time finding any reason why these cards are so "good". I thought at least 1 that I use would be on this list. Insane.
@nevinherren2738
@nevinherren2738 3 жыл бұрын
lets see i have Karn liberated Jace architect of thought Ugin the spirit dragon Jace vryn's prodigy/Jace telepath unbound Teferi hero of dominaria Elspeths sun's champion Gideon, ally of zendikar and finally Chandra, torch of defiance
@weedragonauts4729
@weedragonauts4729 2 жыл бұрын
Liliana of the Veil. I ult her once and i just told someone "you want your lands or everything else?
@sirbobbya
@sirbobbya 3 жыл бұрын
My u/w control deck uses half of this list 😬
@thelastguardin8079
@thelastguardin8079 3 жыл бұрын
Jace still regines supreme
@siriusghosttv
@siriusghosttv 2 жыл бұрын
wow how the mighty have fallen, i scored $200 for my Jace the Mind Sculptor back in the day
@quinngriffith7064
@quinngriffith7064 3 жыл бұрын
i think that since the purpose of these lists is to rank cards based on their impact on competitive magic, cards should get a fairly large amount of points for getting banned. a card must have an astronomically huge impact on a format to get banned out of it, as evident with Oko sweeping 18 of 24 decks in one weekend.
@idealbuzoku9201
@idealbuzoku9201 2 жыл бұрын
JTMS also had almost every deck in standard.
@jajahatman8842
@jajahatman8842 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, no Nicol Bolas? :( I guess he is pretty pricey to play
@dailyntimm4438
@dailyntimm4438 3 жыл бұрын
100 points in standard. good God
@woower100
@woower100 Жыл бұрын
*Laughs in wrenn and six*
@SeasOfCheese929
@SeasOfCheese929 3 жыл бұрын
How many points does Karn, The Great Creator have?
@totalwartimelapses6359
@totalwartimelapses6359 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish you were actually the MTG version of Duel Logs, and explain why these cards are the best or broken or even just quickly read their effects (especially number 12 where you obscured the texts of the 2 cards) and what combos they help facilitate Consider the possibility that not all who watch you are MTG veterans
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what "Duel Logs" is. I do generally explain why the cards are the best or broken, and many people who aren't MTG veterans watch my videos and tell me they help. Now, in this particular video, I was intentionally very brief about the cards that didn't make the top 10, as spending an equal amount of time on those isn't really necessary. I don't read the card text because more people complain about the pace of these videos already, and given the medium, I don't think I need to read them all the time.
@totalwartimelapses6359
@totalwartimelapses6359 2 жыл бұрын
@@NizzahonMagic Yeah when I switched to another video I noticed that you do explain them cards a bit more in other videos...so my comment isn't fully accurate As for Duel Logs, well I found your channel after someone dropped your name as the "MTG version" of him... he's a Yugituber who does top 10 lists on Yu-Gi-Oh He's known for always explaining every card he mentions because he always takes into consideration noobs and other card game players...and sometimes he gets criticism because of that, and me being a veteran Yu-Gi-Oh player I can see why, but jumping into MTG i can see why he needed to explain in detail why some cards are broken Though obviously some cards don't need explanation like "Draw 3 cards" for 2 mana, or take an extra turn for 2 mana....but for example the first planewalker you mentioned here, I didn't know whether his good effects are offset by his 8 mana or not...cause being an amateur I don't know how fast some decks can get to 8 or can have him in their hands
@totalwartimelapses6359
@totalwartimelapses6359 2 жыл бұрын
@@NizzahonMagic Since you replied, may I ask why you stopped doing top 10 worst videos? Your playlist says last video in it is 3 years old
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 2 жыл бұрын
I still do worst videos -- not sure why the playlist is saying the last video is more than three years old. Some of the videos are much newer (Like BAD Cards in Great Cycles, which is from a few weeks ago).
@totalwartimelapses6359
@totalwartimelapses6359 2 жыл бұрын
@@NizzahonMagic I just checked the list, I got that impression because the videos aren't ordered by date, which is how lists of videos are usually ordered The top and bottom videos are both 3 years old
@SpitefulAZ
@SpitefulAZ 3 жыл бұрын
LOL I had no idea Ugin the spirit dragon from core 21 was a reprint! I thought it was a new card first printed in core 21 this whole time :O
@davidverhelpen667
@davidverhelpen667 3 жыл бұрын
I really thought Wrenn & Six would be on this list as well. Nowhere near, as it seems...
@joek3654
@joek3654 3 жыл бұрын
Getting banned in legacy hurt him; he only sees play in one format now
@09Dragonite
@09Dragonite 3 жыл бұрын
So out of curiosity, how likely would Oko have been to knock Jace out of the top spot if he weren't banned in nearly every format?
@aaronbasham6554
@aaronbasham6554 2 жыл бұрын
I'd give it a 3/3 chance.
@Dusk62704
@Dusk62704 11 ай бұрын
Little did he know Liliana of the Veil would be reprinted in standard😅
@SpitefulAZ
@SpitefulAZ 3 жыл бұрын
Premier when I get out of work! Woooo
@clickbaitcritic8105
@clickbaitcritic8105 2 жыл бұрын
Where Nicol bolas the arisen at
@dudestroyer1276
@dudestroyer1276 3 жыл бұрын
if oko never got banned in any format he would probably get at least top 3
@Tirvops
@Tirvops 3 жыл бұрын
Top 1. He is ridiculously overpowered. Turning your opponent's best creature into a 3/3 elk with no abilities as a +1 was a mistake
@Logan-lz5gu
@Logan-lz5gu 3 жыл бұрын
He is the most powerful Planeswalker ever printed. I remember people saying he was trash when he was first printed and that LOTV was more powerful. Oh how they were wrong.
@09Dragonite
@09Dragonite 3 жыл бұрын
I still go back and rewatch MtGAids's video on Sultai Oko before it hit standard just to watch it completely crush 5 out of 5 of the top meta standard decks in the format weeks before the card was actually released. I made so much money on selling Okos prior to the ban...
@lazytommy0
@lazytommy0 2 жыл бұрын
Chandra is best. Fite me!
@raffyk7541
@raffyk7541 3 жыл бұрын
I actually think Oko is techinically stronger than Jayce, but he got banned out of every single format he was legal in thankfully besides like Legacy. Had he gone the same path as Jayce, I think he would have probably reached the top of the list. Anyone remember when even mono-red burn in Modern was playing Oko? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
@josephmay852
@josephmay852 2 жыл бұрын
Oko: suffering from success
@jii-ro7083
@jii-ro7083 2 жыл бұрын
Can we just aggree that war of the spark was a mistake.
@JDDELAMIGO
@JDDELAMIGO 3 жыл бұрын
Without ban, Oko would probably be number 1 for decades
@darkfang25
@darkfang25 Жыл бұрын
Jace the Mindsculptor may still reign king as top Planeswalker, but he has lost the title “Walletsculptor”
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