Can We Win With Halo Fountain in Standard? | Against the Odds | MTG Gameplay

What are the odds of winning with Halo Fountain in Streets of New Capenna Standard? Let's find out on today's Against the Odds!
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0:00 Intro
3:33 Match 1
21:23 Match 2
41:42 Match 3
53:22 Match 4
1:05:42 Wrap Up

[@bigwig8657]

Makes against the odds halo fountain, gets devilish valet against the odds for free. 2 birds 1 stone.

[@wesstapley]

A 4000 power devilish valet is a hilarious backup win.

[@perezortegavalentin9343]

*Seth:* "Oh boy, we have a lot of Against the Odds to make...Bootleggers Stash, Halo Fountain, Devilish Ballet." *Audience:* "That's very cool! Which one are you doing this week?" *Seth:* "Yes."

[@gustavowadaslopes2479]

I think Gala Greaters and Stimulus Package also deserve a mention each.

[@heywes]

And we love him for it!

[@matthoward6130]

OK that's a ballet fit for Magic!

[@gregorygarrison572]

...Valet?

[@jamesrule1338]

Brewers Kitchen: I made a deck that deals 420 damage! Seth: Hold my beer...

[@cooopernicusss]

That devilish valet match 1 game 2 was *chef kiss*

[@CodenameJD]

Seth: I'm not sure about Reservoir Kraken 5 minutes later Seth: We can't deal with these unblockable fish!

[@Death_by_Tech]

it is so much fun to watch against the odds, you are genuinely just so happy i’m not sure if i’m watching to see the combo work or just see you be happy when it works

[@jjohansen86]

Against the Odds is my favorite Magic show. It's too silly not to enjoy.

[@breawycker]

This is the most wholesome comment I've ever read

[@davidmorales-dm7xm]

One of the best things about this video was seeing so many different decks in standard once again.

[@LadyMapi]

I am again sad that Arena doesn't have special animations for special win-conditions. I wonder if a Halo Fountain deck that just tried to grind out value with Decayed tokens could be a thing? Poppet Stitcher + Halo Fountain sounds kinda fun.

[@Lohoris]

Whiners would concede before you can win in order to avoid the animation 😤

[@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle]

Arena at least has different death animations for mill and poison so uh.. I guess you kinda got what you asked for?

[@davidross5305]

I'm confused, if you can sack a treasure to make a 1/1 and whenever a 1/1 enters the battlefield you get a tapped treasure, is that not just an infinite combo? Nevermind didn't see the text that said "choose one mode that hasn't been chosen"

[@jamescooley5241]

You know a card is against the odds when Seth gives up on ranked and spams games against poor deathtouch tribal players til he wins.

[@Curt-ze6hl]

Seth is a hero. He does all of this stuff for us so we don't have to 😂

[@rookermtg9321]

I may not have the Bootlegger Stash spice, but watching this inspired me to make my own Halo Fountain deck. I won with Halo Fountain my first two Bo1 games in a row at Diamond rank (although my opponent scooped both times as I started making tokens). Clever Conjurer/Kelpie Guide combined with Halo Fountain and any creature that can untap an enchanted land draws your deck, and into a Glittering Frost, which gives infinite mana. With infinite mana, you can start using Kelpie to untap Fountain, then Fountain to untap Kelpie... making infinite tokens. Then just play a Chariot, crew it with everything, and activate Fountain to win. Maybe I've just tanked my MMR so much from testing Artisan decks on ladder, and I also think the surprise factor helped. 😆

[@alexandrejesus8709]

Against the odds : bootleggers stash, stimulus package, halo fountain, devilish valet its like 4 against the odds in one

[@IRFine]

I wouldn’t call stimmy AtO

[@gibbyc9293]

The whole treasure turning into 1/1s seems terrifying on its own, like a T-rex. With the halo fountain it’s like giving that T-rex a switchblade.

[@MstrKipper]

This is the card in most excited about from the set for commander I think. Working on a Derevi tokens / tap untap shenanigans deck with stuff like Opposition and this is a perfect addition to it

[@AaronRotenberg]

13:30 Sadly not the biggest Valet of all time. Reddit had one at 2^31 a few days ago. 52:10 "It's not greedy," he says, while playing a deck with as many 3+ drops as lands. 53:42 Evolving Wilds isn't going to rotate, it was in both Midnight Hunt and Crimson Vow.

[@VGV1deo]

(First line) Is the reason they didn't go higher coding limits?

[@Dragiceoriginal]

That first one was against Sparky though, so I’m not sure it really counts?

[@SirDerpinmire]

​@@VGV1deo Almost certainly. 2^31 is the maximum value of a 32-byte signed integer, which is likely how Arena is storing the value (if you're curious why it's not 2^32, the answer is that it's because it also stores negative values. So the number can be anything in the range (-2^31, 2^31]

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

Them printing a card called “Strangle” makes for some really funny sentences. “....and strangles the cat....”

[@SubtleSerpent]

Seth: makes an against the odds deck around Cabaretti and winning with tokens Incandescent Aria: Am I a joke to you?

[@Atmapalazzo]

the problem I've found with Aria in standard is that so many decks use a heavy number of creature tokens. That on top of the format being so focused around walkers really makes Burn down the House a better choice.

[@refreshdaemon]

Thanks for doing this for me so I didn't have to spend all the wildcards to try it out myself. :) Against the Odds is one of my favorite series.

[@Jacksuhn]

Oh man, I'm smiling so hard. Love it!

[@fooltheroyal8691]

Another great card for this deck that can be an alternate win condition would be "Explosive Singularity" it's a mythic card from Kamigawa. It's a red sorcery that costs 10 standard mana, 2 red. The card deals 10 damage to any target, however, you can reduce the cost of this card by 1 for each creature you choose to tap, you may tap any number of creatures.

[@miketate3445]

This is a clinic on demonstrating the concept of a "win more" card. Point every beginner you know to this video. If you cannot use the win condition because you literally win in the process of setting it up, that's prime "win more".

[@jacobh4077]

Wouldnt Jennie Fae be a good fit in this? Use your bootleggers stash and make cats with haste as a way to turn on halo fountain or have an alternate win?

[@1AlasBabylon]

I feel like at that point you'd set the Halo Fountain to a one-of fun-of and run Jinnie in its place. The deck is threatening to try to go down too many lanes.

[@Samst0n]

There’s something very flavorful about “waiting for a stimulus package”

[@MrShinyObject]

20:12 Against the Odds is the only mtg KZbin content where you hear someone make that sound when they *win*

[@tylerturner4163]

We've pulled it off a bunch of times already and all the card in the combo are individually really good so the deck has this really nice go wide beat down plan also

[@phasbo]

that devilish valet straight up became a yugioh monster

[@toofpyk3923]

I know it's not always practical, but with these treasure decks I'm always including at least 1 Cackle with Power.

[@curtissearle6462]

Mama didn't raise no quitter thanks for persisting Seth you da bomb!

[@Zephyrt3mp3st]

Crew is a good idea I didn't think about using in my version of this deck. Instead I went for convoke spells

[@Hundo_Mo]

Jinnie Fey and Gala Greeters are absurd token production. But then Gala Greeters and Stimulus package… mah gawd. Its ::in Seth’s voice:: Sooo goooood!

[@_Fabian_]

Rabble rousing would be pretty cool in this deck!

[@Griffim-eq4ei]

I have a Halo fountain deck with cards that tap to untap another permanent and it is really fun.

[@williamcrawford6885]

I wonder how effective all the treasure synergies would be in an artifact deck with all that glitters and nettlecyst, With trampling stone coil serpents or something like that

[@MindLaboratory]

I once made a Paradise Druid deck with 4 Hydra's Growth on it. It maxed out at around 4000000/4000000

[@iacobuseurus509]

I did something like this in Historic with the Convoke mechanic and two march of multitudes. Sparky did not stand a chance

[@benjiboy1337]

Considering that BW was a top archetype before Streets, it makes sense that getting powerful creatures to replace their Venture nerds makes the Esper version of the deck really good.

[@taleswapper81]

Looking forward to stealing wins against this with my turn 3 win deck. Thanks for evening the odds. :D

[@KnicKnac]

I run Halo Fountain in my Torens Historic Brawl deck. Helpful utility

[@Chrisxantixemox]

The 4k valet made my day

[@Death_by_Tech]

@24:23 are you sure they aren’t pokémon cards 😂😂

[@LordHyren]

best thing to do is blackstaff of the waterdeep on the fountain with a magda. still use vehicles to tap stuff and a xorn, maskwood nexus or goldspan goes infinite at instant speed

[@petersteiman2443]

Personally I’ve always been a fan of Terramorphic Expanse. This was really sweet as always.

[@Death_by_Tech]

why was the first guy not swinging with everything?

[@catdreaming6004]

This video has mostly showed me that one or more Gala Greeters with a Stimulus Package is a very strong synergy.

[@maxiewawa]

You have to get animation guy to do something with 20:21. Victory, Level up, but Seth throws up his hands in frustration.

[@manni.Net60]

wouldve liked to see more valets in the deck. That 4000 Damage win was sweet

[@kiyan5340]

Halo Fountain with Teferi, Kelpie Guide, and that dwarf wizard that untaps

[@tommygol15br]

19:23 you could turn on Esikas chariot to play the Eiganjo cheaper and get one more treasure

[@grantspengler1553]

Kelpie Guide is my bet for a jank Halo Fountain combo! Just needs a mana loop and you can tap and untap to make all the dorks in one turn

[@quinnbreit-nicholson454]

I think Rabble Rousing should be in the deck, helps find the combo pieces and produces tokens and can make more tokens.

[@Elite1Panther]

There is a combo with jasper sentinel, Magda, xorn, maskwood nexus, and esika's chariot and it can be a turn 4 win with halo fountain. I just forgot how to do the combo 😂

[@ryanhaberman2089]

"Do we get the back up win? 2, 4... Oh yeah, we definitely get it."

[@jamescooley5241]

Seth you should consider keeping more keepable hands lol

[@tylerturner4163]

My friend and I discovered a standard infinite combo that makes infinite tapped creatures then uses Magda to tutor out a halo fountain and win that same turn.

[@R3C0NSPARTAN]

Something arena let me do was target Halo Fountain with Scheming Fence and then tap and untap the fence for as much mana as I had available

[@LithmusEarth]

Seeing the deck at the end: Drop the 4 Halo Fountains and white in general, bring in more of the devilish valet. the 4 pieces of white removal have to become some form of red removal not sure what would be the best there. Also I'd say more burn down the house in mainboard less of the shatterskull smashings. I think that's where the magic is at. I'd just streamline it into two colors more, i feel like you are splashing white for halo fountain, but it just doesn't do enough to justify it's existence.

[@Hanmacx]

Use Ognis, the Dragon's Lash With Stimulus Package And Haste enabler

[@danielmcarthur8169]

Needed like 2 more creatures to get that devil OVER 9000

[@Crazymachin3gun]

I have only just started to mess with deck Idea using Mob nixolis and copy jace with bounce spells so u can continue picking up these walkers while leaving nonlegend tokens behind it works a bit just need to figure out the creature and sweeper package

[@AlphaFenris1]

With all those tokens and Halo Fountain I would have been tempted to cram in Saryth

[@derekandtheroadman8162]

Could you create infinite tokens with gala greeters and the sac a treasure make a token enchantment?

[@fordesgol7947]

So here i sit and while watching you making a milion treassure tokens i thought to myself why not add dragonspark reactor and make this combo truly bombastic xD @Mtggoldfish

[@fordesgol7947]

AAnd i'm surprised there is no magda in there too for that amount of treassures you could easily tutor the fountain out ^^

[@andymccoy8393]

I need a drawing of fifteen citizens inside the reckoner bankbuster

[@viserproductions1]

I'm curious as to why you went with stimulus package and not jinnie fay?

[@Klistern2]

Is this card missing text? Cant play the last ability as an instant. They should have stated that on the fing card... Attacked with 19 creatures, had 8 spare white mana, wouldn't let me use the ability. Am I missing something?

[@MentalVideographer]

I think the situation is less that halo fountain is 'win more,' and more that it's an 'already won' kind of card. If you *can* use the ability, you could probably have just won with some of your 15 creatures.

[@dicarosmith8681]

Gala Greeters with Stimulus Package is pretty bonkers.

[@jekanyika]

52:16 According to the deck list on the side there are 20 lands in the deck.

[@jimbo103189]

You missed the shatterskull smashings at the top its 24 lands

[@jekanyika]

@@jimbo103189 It seems I did. Fair enough.

[@jimbo103189]

@@jekanyika I missed it the first time too

[@BobardeZanzibar]

Devilish Valet 🤜🤛 Nyxbloom Ancient

[@notsm]

5:10 If we needed proof that Seth is a not a cat-person just look at his reaction to his opponent strangling his cat.

[@noofdavy]

epic kill

[@christinamouawad1153]

doesn't Jennie Fay and Strixhaven Stadium also work in this shell?

[@benjiboy1337]

I wonder if a slightly more aggressive build of the deck that uses 2 Jinnie Fae in place of 2 Bootlegger's Stash might be better. Even just having only one Bootlegger's Stash and running a sort of Naya Treasure Zoo deck with an incidental combo win might make it a better deck, though I know that's not the point of Against the Odds. Is there maybe some kind of interesting thing that can be done with Magda for a faster value start? It seems like there might be room to play around with this shell and produce something that has a passable midrange plan with an incidental combo win, which would make the deck the Winota of Standard.

[@benjiboy1337]

34:50 I still think Obscura Ascendancy is a solid card for Standard. You want to play tightly curved instants and sorceries in an Esper deck anyway, so it isn't that hard to make the card produce 6 power and toughness across 3 bodies incidentally while you execute your game plan. It never has to reach Anthem mode - it just has to be a build-your-own Angel of Invention with no extra text beyond Fabricate.

[@stebobibo]

I've played against it and with it in limited and it's been good. My opp got to 4 spirits with it in just a couple of turns after it landed. I would usually get 3 or 4 tokens from it. Really great with connive to dig through to find the right cards with it. In standard it's even better cause u can build ur deck around it more. I think the marches, especially the black one, are great for it. White one is good too, u can always over pay.

[@fooltheroyal8691]

Mad respect, but I feel Halo works better with cards like explosive singularity and rable rousing. Maybe throw in some 3 cost Kaya Planeswalker to double tokens for a turn and surprise! You won in one turn. This deck definitely works best in a black/white/red format.

[@corymachlan6177]

Run magda for bootleggers stash and halo fountain to get around the counter spells in standard.

[@aidan_savage]

This is super cool but I'm confused why you didn't use rabble rousing to double the number of creatures on your board whenever you swing with everybody

[@IRFine]

Toralz? Tuloz? Train Conductor Thing!

[@chrishoye55]

I feel like I want to build this, but instead of devilish valet being the 1 of, halo fountain be the 1 of and your win record will probably go up

[@mikemoyer8162]

My first thought when i saw this "i wanna see it in modern!" But i guess I'll settle

[@vantharion]

Kind of surprising there's no animation for a win the game effect.

[@mikemoyer8162]

Hey, maybe match 2 was playing ascendancy as thier own against the odds, but couldn't make it work so just threw it in an actual good deck. I mean, i get it, i have some really bad pet cards (looking at you, homarids) Edit to say: shakedown heavy is a legit magic card. Great design, forces decisions which can throw some opponents, one of my favs from this set.

[@Tambanti]

This should have been a historic deck with Anointed Procession and March of the Multitudes. Would have been much faster at winning with the fountain

[@Lohoris]

While watching this video I cracked a pack and found a Halo Fountain

[@recruitersanonymous3325]

I wonder how my son can watch someone else playing with one of his toys. Now I know. I don’t even play anymore. I just watch these videos.

[@bigwig8657]

I kinda wanna see bootleggers in an Urza shell, tap lands to make mox saphires sounds cool.

[@HyperactiveSloth79]

Why not use Jinnie Fay and skip the step of saccing the treasures to make tokens, and have much better token creatures to utilize as well?

[@Floozy91]

anyone have the opponents build at 22:00?

[@taleswapper81]

Ask me about my Illuminator Virtuoso list. It's "against" the odds and yet puts the odds in your favor.

[@vincentmccue7481]

Just an FYI but when you had the tapped citizen and sacrificed your last token to make a citizen to end up with 3 untapped citizens and one tapped, if you added a W instead to use the Halo Fountain you would have 4 untapped citizens. Not that it matters against unblockable fish.

[@CodenameJD]

Yeah, the main problem with trying to win with Halo Fountain outside of commander is that if you have 15 tapped creatures why do you need the alternate win condition? Like, it might even still be playable for the first two modes, but the alt win con is really there for commander, where 15 creatures are easy to achieve and not particularly impressive alone.

[@hwago123]

Am in missing something? He can make infinite tokens with Gala Greeters and Stimulus Package

[@Petronio39]

Watching big score rot in Seth's hand game 1 was painful.

[@weirddan455]

1:01:14 Missed lethal right? You could have made 17 tokens on end step and then attacked. That's kind of the problem with the combo that makes you have 15 tapped creatures. If you have that many creatures, you can usually just win by attacking.

[@johannanish4987]

Well he wanted at least one kill with halo so.. Let the man combo 🤷‍♂️

[@jimmybobobbingo]

Needed 2 more treasures to get his power over 9000 :(

[@Oesolph]

Why isn't there a Magda in the deck? It creates treasures and can search your library for Bootleggers' Stash or Halo Fountain.

[@securatyyy]

I really wish you could continue games when the opponent concedes. Sometimes your deck is about to pop off or you just wanna see how far something will go. Just to see what could have been.

[@jaredstivers]

Just cut white and the deck could be fine. The uncommon enchantment was impressive

[@PhetaFox]

"Caaaabaretti wilds"