Yuriko vs Anafenza vs Sram vs Avacyn EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering

[@twidgetron328]

*STOP* *VOTING* *TIME*

[@thelocustgod9098]

Always, always, ALWAYS, pick Money when someone casts Expropriate.

[@MTGMuddstah]

Chris was my spirit animal this game.

[@SeanHrecho]

Almost always. If they have no board state and a lot of cards in hand, and you have an Omniscience on board, that would be a situation where time would likely be a better choice.

[@sjoerd972]

That is ALMOST always the sane choice indeed.

[@DarkEinherjar]

Then again, if the opponent has resolved Omniscience AND Expropriate and has a hand full of powerful stuff, chances are that player is going to win the game regardless of Expropriate's choices.

[@Starsoulklr]

Looking at this I think Marco was right in voting for Time as he had quite a board out and you wouldn't want to give Jamie Sheoldred. The sacrifice triggers helped contain Jamie from going too crazy.

[@חשןפרנקל]

At around 8:30 the karmic guide should also return to marco's hand, as the Necromancy falls off due to state based actions before the proteon hulk death trigger resolves.

[@Duranous1]

Is the protection from black the state based effect? Does this stop the karmic guide's etb trigger from going on the stack?

[@חשןפרנקל]

@@Duranous1 Duranous No, when it is in the graveyard it can be enchanted, however, once on the battlefield, the trigger will try to go on the stack, however, it won't trigger before the state based actions are checked. Therefore the enchantment falls off karmic guide thus causing you to sacrifice it, and only then the trigger goes on the stack.

[@TheG4urdian]

This was the most responsible use of protean hulk I've ever seen! He's a nicer man than I am

[@josequeiroz1256]

TheGu4rdian when i first saw him picking viscera and guide i thought he was going off haha

[@darkstrike055]

I thought the same, he could have sac'd the hulk to fetch reveilark then proceed to loop Karmic, Reveilark and hulk to just play every creature in his deck that costs 6 or less xD

[@Duranous1]

That necromancy play was spicy as hell.

[@dimirsafaia4753]

Great content as always! I have a concern, though: Please notice that when Commander Ninjutsu was used at 2:24-2:26, the only lands Jamie had were two Islands and an Unclaimed Territory. The text on Unclaimed Territory is as follows: "As Unclaimed Territory enters the battlefield, choose a creature type. {T}: Add {C}. {T}: Add one mana of any color. Spend this mana only to cast a creature spell of the chosen type." I think Jamie shouldn't be able to use Commander Ninjutsu as the black mana produced by the land wasn't used to CAST Yuriko, but was used for Commader Ninjutsu, which is not the same as casting Yuriko. Please correct me if I'm wrong :) Anyway, thank you again for the awesome content! More power to this channel! :)

[@MTGMuddstah]

Good catch! I'll be sure to let Jamieson know about his mistake.

[@AffinityForCommander]

Superb game! I will always have a hatred of Anafenza, being a lover of graveyard decks! 😉

[@exaroc571]

that was insane. love the high cost cards usage in commander as they can give such insane results. also, congrats on 30k subscribers! you definetly deserve it, as your vids have always been high quality, and you respond to the community very well.

[@xakuyer]

Man this Yuriko + helm of the host, quite brutal

[@redmillion7089]

Not sure why he casts Yuriko as his only creature while Sheoldred is out.🤔

[@DaimeonShrader]

makes copies with the helm

[@williamgray2066]

commander ninjitsu gets around the tax, so not much drawback to just running her out there?

[@redmillion7089]

Just doesn't seem like something worth doing.🤷🏻‍♂️ Might not always get a chance to Ninjutsu her way into play.

[@zaddyzathog4087]

The reason I hard cast her is because I have skull storm in the deck so after casting her three times I planned on using it against Marco except it wouldn't hurt him much for he had creatures to sacrifice

[@pietromasneri2872]

probably he was hoping a removal from other players

[@CommanderReplay]

As someone who loves to slow roll an hour of revelation, Chris should have held up the heralds horn in hand until after the board wipe.

[@plattbonnay]

Man, I need to see this Anafenza list

[@garra277]

@2:26 Jamie shouldn't be able to use unclaimed territory to play Yuriko, as it is an activated ability not actually casting a spell so the land doesn't add a color only colorless.

[@trashgoat3119]

I was thinking the same thing

[@MrFaceofinsanity01]

Saved me the trouble. Thanks!

[@michaelkinsella9473]

yeah he could have gotten sooo many more triggers with viscera seer, karmic guide and the necromancy.. not to mention he didn't combo of with it.

[@garra277]

@@michaelkinsella9473 ya the hulk and karma with viscera basically is gg with any 6 cost or less like revillark

[@windstormnintendo]

Always the best EDH content on KZbin! Haven't watched this one yet! But features my favorite thicc boy, Sram!

[@Hexamore1994]

How did Jamie make a black mana for Yuriko with Unclaimed Territory? It only makes colored mana to CAST Ninjas in this case and Ninjutsu is not casting your creature.

[@redmillion7089]

Good call.👍🏻 I thought I was going crazy for a moment there when he used the Territory.

[@MTGMuddstah]

Cheat count 1!

[@zaddyzathog4087]

Valid did not realize..

[@Whistling_Kelp]

@@zaddyzathog4087 Tribal Lands aren't the best with Ninjas as if you can you never cast them, you use the ability (they can sinergize well with Xenograft, Adaptation and Conspiracy tho)

[@zaddyzathog4087]

@@Whistling_Kelp i have all 3 but i plan on probably taking out unclaimed territory

[@CommanderReplay]

The Gerblin, 60 minutes of non stop 80s power metal, no commercial breaks.

[@ishimarumakot0]

I have to admit that hearing someone named MARCO playing with you guys give me chills because is my dream to play a game with Muddstah and friends.

[@timothygadd751]

Only recently found this KZbin and I love these videos. Thanks man.

[@timothygadd751]

Also comments about Expropriate: it's a key piece I'm my Kraken Time deck. I would win many fewer games if people just did the right thing and gave me a permanent every time.

[@geekmp3]

I'm not even through the entire video yet but I'm in love with Marco's deck already...

[@NickBase]

I really want that anafenza list so sad that it isnt up :(

[@hcgneophyte]

Marco Abzan deck embodies all that i like !! omg i'm in love with it ! Get him on games again if you can !!

[@Cole444Train]

Two mono white decks! I don’t think I’ve ever seen a game with two. I doubt either will win, but still fun

[@Ianoxen]

The Anafenza deck is just a "fair" version of the prototypical abzan creature-combo deck.

[@hcgneophyte]

I was wondering if you were able to get Marco's decklist ??

[@maklir5610]

Where is the Anafenza deck?

[@jean-baptistedelabroise5391]

I would love to see the anafenza list, seems really nice

[@jw5950]

Ughhhhhh that Anafenza deck is sweet!!! Deck list?

[@Darkflamecrusader]

I want Marco's decklist! Please?

[@guilhermeobregon6472]

I really want that anafenza list, Marco not sent you his list yet?

[@Cole444Train]

Wtf was that early path to exile about?

[@plain6677]

Cole444Train Ramping your opponent, to make sure they win

[@DarkEinherjar]

He didn't want Anafenza messing with his graveyard. I'd proabably have done the same.

[@Cole444Train]

DarkEinherjar he was playing mono white. How much can a mono white deck rely on reanimation or graveyards in general?

[@DarkEinherjar]

More than you'd think. You saw Karmic Guide in his deck, and the deck also contains Emeria, the Sky Ruin, Bruna, the Fading Light, Adarkar Valkyrie, Marshal's Anthem...

[@mtgsus]

Still it was uncalled for. It didn’t mess with his play since he barely commited something to the game except disrupting his opponents.

[@dhull2867]

How did Marco not win with viscera seer, protean hulk and karmic guide on the battlefield.

[@MTGMuddstah]

As I mentioned at the end, he runs it more as a value engine than anything else.

[@N1ghthavvk]

@@MTGMuddstah Such a rare sight: A fair Protean Hulk in the wild! :-O

[@zachhannah8927]

It looked like he had enough pieces to abuse it, still. So he held back?

[@jamesklingensmith7529]

@@N1ghthavvk I mean, as "fair" as a card like Protean Hulk can be; he still arguably gained enough advantage off of it to win the game. But sure, perfectly fine and not at all busted.

[@solohablarypunto]

hi, the main of anafenza exist?

[@Shadowrpb]

Thanks for the Yuriko tapped out list!

[@odoyle10291]

Good game, I love that prossh playmate, but i cant find it on the site. Is it not yet available?

[@unimaginative_artist]

Marco using those cheat codes!!!!!!!😂 😂 😂

[@whiskey_neat]

I also want to see marco's deck list

[@douglasmarcondes3592]

I did a Yuriko and it's very insane the way that she proccs, amazing, btw, I'm going to put Expropriate on my deck.

[@waynebairstow9722]

Does Marco not have the Revillark combo in his deck? He had all the cards he'd need to combo off.

[@sirtoucannon7479]

#1 edh goal is to play my jodah deck on your channel 💜 btw great video again muddstah!

[@jormungardwe]

2:33 unclaimed territory can't produce black mana to use ninjutsu, it says spend this mana only to "cast" creatures of the chosen type.

[@ss-tl1ic]

Jolt should seriously consider doing radio. He has the golden voice for it!

[@DarkEinherjar]

I think we can all agree that there are only two situations in which it MIGHT be okay to choose Time over Money when Expropriate is cast: 1. if the permanent that the Expropriate caster steals from you will end the game or take you out of it in the extra turns, like a creature that is guaranteed to swing at you for lethal, a planeswalker that's about to use a broken ult, and other stuff like that; 2. if the Expropriate caster has no hand and a very weak board, in which case the extra turns just become extra card draws most of the time. In every other scenario, Money is the better choice.

[@r.a.w.780]

Awesome ending 💪🏻

[@jundsheep7599]

A guy in my play group has a Avacyn deck too. It’s full of mana rocks and white goodstuff. Usually when my play group plays with the avacyn deck the players with the control and kinda control decks either steal of make copies of avacyn.

[@jakei2532]

Anafenza list please 😭

[@AdmiralZev]

Marco's deck tho 🤔🤔 I likey!! That Yuriko deck is intriguing too... Great game!

[@solotopp]

Finally, a Yuriko deck!

[@L00rdAjduk]

I would love to have an invocation locust god playmat for my cedh locust god deck :)

[@thelocustgod9098]

L00rdAjduk same.

[@KidsJavo2088]

Man i have a question, the Karmic Guide should don't die in the minute 6:53, or is it? the Echo ability says (At the beginning of your upkeep, if this came under your control since the beginning of your last upkeep, sacrifice it unless you pay its echo cost.), so he should keep the Karmic Guide one more turn or, am I misunderstanding something?

[@DarkEinherjar]

No. Karmic Guide entered the battlefield during Chris's turn, so Marco hasn't had an upkeep step with it yet. Therefore, in his next upkeep, Echo triggers and he has to pay the cost or sacrifice it.

[@KidsJavo2088]

@@DarkEinherjar But the rule doesn't say that. I mean, you say it, Marco put the Karmic Guide in his battlefield in Chris turn, so he doesn't have his Karmic Guide since his unkeep, he have to stay one more turn with the Karmic Guide in his battlefield, doesn't he? Then, in his next turn It says that if you had Karmic Guide in your battelfield sience the beginning of your last unkeep, you have to sacrifice it unless you pay for the echo.

[@DarkEinherjar]

Echo's reminder text: "At the beginning of your upkeep, if this came under your control since the beginning of your last upkeep, sacrifice it unless you pay its echo cost." It entered the battlefield during Chris's turn, which fits the "since the beginning of your last upkeep", even if it's not Marco's turn. Therefore, when Marco's next upkeep step comes up, Echo will trigger. This goes for everything with Echo: if the permanent is on the battlefield and its controller hasn't paid for Echo yet since it entered the field, s/he WILL have to pay for Echo on the his/her next upkeep.

[@KidsJavo2088]

​@@DarkEinherjar Ooooo, I didn't know that "the beginning of your last upkeep" can relate with the opponent turn, I understood "the beginning of your last upkeep" as the moment when I have to untap all my permanents, so I thought that you should review if your permanent with echo came into play the last turn (that wouldn't trigger the echo) or if you had your permanent with echo into the battlefield when you untap all your permanents, I mean, I understood "since" like a clause of "if you hadn't have the permanent with echo when you untap your permanents, but you put it in to play in your main phase, you have to wait one more turn, because you have that permanent not since your last unkeep but since your main phase, then the next turn, he had to apply the echo ability because you have the permanent with echo since your last unkeep, and not in your main phase. Thank's man.

[@KidsJavo2088]

@@DarkEinherjar Oooo, I didn't know that "the beginning of your last upkeep" can relate with the opponent turn, I understood "the beginning of your last upkeep" as the moment when I have to untap all my permanents, so I thought that you should review if your permanent with echo came into play the last turn (that wouldn't trigger the echo) or if you had your permanent with echo into the battlefield when you untap all your permanents, I mean, I understood "since" like a clause of "if you hadn't have the permanent with echo when you untap your permanents, but you put it in to play in your main phase, you have to wait one more turn, because you have that permanent not since your last unkeep but since your main phase, then the next turn, he had to apply the echo ability because you have the permanent with echo since your last unkeep, and not in your main phase. Thank's man.

[@allandbarbosa2945]

The Legendary Marco of Riku ?

[@stefanjordan4770]

Does Chris run angel of jubilation?

[@gregorovitch19]

Jamie only lost because he doesn't cast scroll rack before, if he had, he would be able to use it right away and put it Skull Storm and the Ink-Eyes on top, revealed with two triggers from Yuriko, and in response to the other two triggers, put them back on top and hit it again!

[@haunterisghost]

Has Marco sent you his list yet?

[@espejokeith]

Anafenza list?

[@lehandroz]

I thought for sure that Protean Hulk going to the graveyard the first time would end the game, knowing what infinite combos it has. Oh well... at least the deck still won in the end. Yay!

[@DarkEinherjar]

I'm surprised Marco didn't search for Mikaeus and Walking Ballista. With the Seer, that would've been infinite damage right then and there.

[@Beansareamagicalfruit]

Wait was that jolt in the intro lol?

[@RandyG1975]

Very cool game. Thanks!

[@AidanWR]

I think that there's one video on your channel where someone properly discarded a card when they had no creatures as Plaguecrafter enters the battlefield

[@cooljmac2]

how did yuriko trigger 4 times in the last part of the game? I see helm of the host made the copy but wouldn't that only be 2 triggers?

[@DualSwordBesken]

Johnno MacDonald Yuriko is whenever a ninja you control deals damage, so each Yuriko saw 2 ninjas deal damage, themselves and the other.

[@AidanWR]

With Protean Hulk and Viscera Seer, I was expecting him to sacrifice Protean Hulk for Mikeaus and Walking Ballista

[@julianhugen8760]

Really nice game. Abzan reanimator is really overpower. Huahuahuhuaa

[@caju108]

10:05 Marco could not have sacrificed his creatures with viscera seer, as linvala is in the Battlefield....

[@bouncin13]

Wake the Dead sacrifices the returned creatures on end step.

[@mraidandm]

Im super curious about that Anafenza deck. Love her story and it’s awesome when she is using the ancients in duel

[@toxictonic12888]

This is my jam =]

[@orsettomorbido]

Oh wow, that ending!

[@ultiplayer1]

@8:41 According to this forum post, Karmic Guide should have stayed in play. www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/magic-rulings/magic-rulings-archives/259115-necromancy-akroma

[@addambarcelos]

expropriate is sick, it puts so much pressure.

[@ncuco]

I feel he played 3 lands from the top of his deck with Mul Daya. Isn't 2 the limit?

[@drvinylscratch1936]

That was a cool win snipe.

[@lazyinvadershiya8320]

I thought ninjsutu was ability and not a alternive cost so how did he cast it with unclaimed teratory?

[@MTGMuddstah]

He misplayed =(

[@darylchiu9030]

So much graveyard action.

[@solotopp]

Anafenza deck looking super fun.

[@rorylastname7635]

But.. I dont understand. Hulk died multiple times and the game didnt end? What benevolent wizardry is this?

[@DarkEinherjar]

I was asking myself the same question... Marco apparently doesn't run combos in his deck.

[@sephyrias883]

Chris' deck didn't stand a chance, angel tribal was way too weak for that table. Even if he had been able to cast Avacyn, she would've just died right away to the sacrifice triggers.

[@lolaandjoe123]

I wanna play Angel tribal soo badly but it seems so weak :(

[@SAGEXX309]

Jamie tried man valiant effort!

[@PlutoDarknight]

Not gonna lie, I was waiting the whole game for Marco to get a Reveilark for the loop

[@zaddyzathog4087]

Thanks to the 6 people that mentioned I misplayed...

[@AstridCeleste96]

Don’t sweat it, everyone misplays

[@froshtea]

Sorry i got confused near the end. Which card in particular triggered yuriko's ability twice?

[@ErasMcras]

6:43 I wonder why Marco decided to not win when he had the game right there. Maybe he doesn't have the rest of the combo? Although it's unlikely considering he's running hulk in the first place and went to get guide and seer. Maybe he just didn't want to cut your content short?

[@MTGMuddstah]

He said he doesn't like going for the combo and prefers to run Hulk more as a good stuff enabler.

[@pokeyclawz8727]

why doesnt marco just stick karador in the command zone, it would be way better and make more sense with the deck

[@80000000000085]

really confused why the game continued after the hulk died.

[@monty125874693]

Imma be real with you chief I would have flipped the table playing against Marco xD

[@j13productions42]

Commenting so I remember the video in hopes Marco gives the list

[@dylanreinhart2501]

Narrator: "Marco plays..." Viewers: "POLO!"

[@alessandrocazzaniga4588]

One must be a pure man to not win off a protean hulk trigger

[@vanishingumbreon7615]

"Josh picks time" At that point he deserved the loss

[@Hey_Tk]

Marco is a savage.

[@leeroyjenkins552]

JLK from the command zone needs to see this game because expropriate didn't win

[@Mundane05]

2:22 Ultra misplay... Can't use unclaimed territory to generate the black mana for the ABILITY, only to cast.

[@kaicossey2728]

yay marcos back

[@tryzydrate]

The missed sheoldred triggers drove me mad. Also expropriate is the worst.

[@admiralJONK]

yup, i need to make yuriko

[@guilhermeobregon6472]

Anafenza list? "/

[@admanios]

Awww... I was hoping to see a ninja win!

[@jthrone7768]

Beautiful game as always: this comment has ninjitsu. Anafenza is best girl, thanks for the games Daddy Muddstah, you’re doing Bolas’ work.

[@sjoerd972]

Epic game!

[@moonlight2870]

Never choose time.

[@esperderek5383]

Remember folks, it's always Money for Expropriate. No matter what. ALWAYS.

[@Zaalbarjedi]

Not really. 95% times it happens - yes. But if your Ugin is about to ult, you don't want to give that opportunity to Expropriate player)

[@ruperthaynes2723]

Id agree with but this video was an example of the other working very luckily i may add

[@plain6677]

Bohdan Yarema No, even in this case you chose Money. Time give them the win.

[@DarkEinherjar]

If your Ugin is about to ult and no one has done anything about it, you're probably winning anyway, which would force the Expropriate player to board wipe instead of ulting.

[@Zaalbarjedi]

@@DarkEinherjar Really? You cast Ugin and +2 it. Now it is at 9. Opponent cast expropriate. He chooses Time, you choose Money. He takes your Ugin and +2 it, now 11. Takes extra turn and ult.

[@plain6677]

Why people are choosing “Time” on Expropriate? I have seen that many times even in my playgroup. It does not make any sense you should always go for Money no matter what

[@SeanHrecho]

Even if you have an Omniscience in play and they have no board state other lands? You would be an idiot to even consider voting time in that situation. 95% of the time, sure. But not 100%

[@plain6677]

No no, not when facing Yuriko with an opponent on empty board. I’d happily give Omniscience rather than an extra turn, unless you know the guy has tutor in hand.

[@pauldyson8098]

Expropriate in Yuriko is GASSSSSSSS.