Lathril vs Kadena vs Ramos vs Morophon EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering

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[@levithompson1161]

"That seems like a waste of 9 mana" he says, in the face of losing the mana anyways 😂

[@TheShitassdick]

I was thinking the same lol

[@rexone9564]

You can choose to waste 9 mana or 16, and chooses 16…

[@admiralJONK]

I know the Ramos deck has been struggling, but thank you for not giving up on it! It’s gotta be my favorite deck I’ve ever seen on here - so creative and exciting. I’m sure you’ll figure out the package you need to protect him!

[@kingfuzzy2]

He has one win that he hasn't uploaded yet (according to him)

[@bradenbaker7120]

I also run a Ramos mutate deck. One thing I’ve learned is when mutating onto Ramos, it’s almost always worth it to mutate on top of Ramos so it is no longer an artifact. My opponents would often just cast an artifact removal spell on Ramos out of convenience and he tended to stay on the field longer after I learned this

[@camj1758]

Hey i play ramos mutate too! :) And I learned this trick too. Sacrifice a power or two to maintain protection. I love that deck! It's so much fun. I'm thinking of adding chromanticore as a mutate target and capturing all 5 colours

[@titanium0002]

so i have a question is ramos mutate or otrimi mutate better ive been wanting to make a mutate deck

[@bradenbaker7120]

@@titanium0002 I’ve not played Otrimi as the commander but he’s pretty good in the 99 of Ramos, so I’d recommend Ramos personally

[@DarkEinherjar]

I'm pretty sure no one can respond to Tempt with Discovery once players decide if they're temped or not, because the spell is still resolving at this point...

[@MTGMuddstah]

You're right. We got a bit loose with timing on that. Presumably, he would have just cast it afterwards one he had priority.

[@derekseaton4412]

I’m a Derek! I play Kadena!! Do I have AMNESIA?!?!

[@caseywellington4761]

Yes, I've told you that three times now!

[@soygenial111]

Maximum Derek!!!

[@derekseaton4412]

Ah! Who are you? I need an adult! He’s trying to touch my bells!

[@andrewlindenschmidt5533]

I have been dereked. Murder is me

[@deandreholmes3807]

That might have been the best Kadena performance in the history of Kadena games.

[@shazebennington937]

Yeah she is usually a sorta trash tier commander. I totally thought lathril was going to run away with this game.

[@lugh.i]

​@@shazebennington937 I've played Kadena since it came out, it has never been a trash tier. The excellent color combination and the fact that gives you a free body and card advantage at the same time works perfectly for control & go wide strategies. Morphs are unexpected and give you a great array of tools, from counters to big bodies and resource theft and denial. I've always thought it's one of those Commanders that go overlooked because it's abilities are not really flashy, but it can really control a lot of games if well built.

[@afspeellijstnaruto]

Been there done that seen that. Kadena rocks. :) If keeps up de gas. My favorite combo was seedborn muse and leyline (+ kadena ofc). That was awesome.

[@Mordain_Thade]

@@lugh.i I'm in the same boat. A wide variety of tools lets her play a value/control style that can spiral out of control pretty quickly if left unchecked. My only issue has been closing games, but she can lock down a table and generate all the value with surprising ease :)

[@DarkEinherjar]

He resolved an Expropriate. That was pretty much game over.

[@faerie7dragon]

Getting one shot by Phage is a medal of honor.

[@plain6677]

Chris’ cards are beautiful… love those foils and arts

[@therubyskeleton1002]

I absolutely LOVE your Ramos deck, it is my favorite deck I’ve ever seen on your channel it’s so unique! Love from Michigan🥰

[@oateater5044]

Ramos loves flash enablers, because you can remove the counters and recast him on their turn in response to removal.

[@lugh.i]

FINALLY! A Kadena win on this channel. Morph superiority achieved. Great video, more Kadena, please.

[@titanium0002]

ahhh a fellow morph player

[@TheOneAndOnlyCrawl]

That Rite of Belzenlok playmat looks sweet.

[@TCG9777]

This music hit different. It's like watching a fight but all the good guys are losing. I.e Mark, Andrew and Chris XDXD

[@joshuanugentfitnessjourney3342]

Mark not tapping that elf to gain him life is triggering me

[@KeroTheInvincible]

In the end, all the life in the world won't save you from Phage. XD

[@joshuanugentfitnessjourney3342]

@@KeroTheInvincible fair I wrote this a quarter of the way through

[@facelessgames94]

Small detail, but I'm this case, I think it matters; the resolution of Tempt with Discovery. Firstly, casting player needs to find a land, then each player in turn order can choose to be tempted. As each player gets tempted, the casting player can then go get a land. So it will alternate between player 1 2 1 3 1 4 1. Knowing that players can only choose to be tempted on resolution of the spell, players can not respond. In this case, someone killed Chris's mana crypt out of spite. Then Chris might jave been able to interact using the land be got. Most of the time, this small detail does t matter, but in the fringe cases, it can be the difference between a counter spell or a removal

[@vatarikot952]

Greetings from Russia! I play Kadena too - very good commander. Good game👍Thanks for your project. We do not have enough content like yours.

[@Tombery23]

Muddstah seems to love his Ramos deck. Not gonna lie, i'm a little jealous of this brew idea :D

[@DrFrogman]

Finally another video with my gril kadena! Love to see her as much as the content ❤️ thanks

[@Infamous_wu13]

whre da lithril deck at

[@JeremyRice82]

I haven't played Ramos mutate too much, but I found the most success when Ramos is a secondary threat and not the mutate target. He either draws hate off your mutate stack, or surprise one-shots people in the air.

[@8628416]

I rarely see a Kadena deck pop off in this fashion! Great game! :)

[@rafaelribeiro1871]

Wouldn't the sea dasher octopus not be a creature anymore since it was mutated on the once animated keyrune and the effect of being turned into a creature ends at the of the turn? Mutate is weird.

[@KeroTheInvincible]

Just wait until you get into what happens when you mutate onto a planeswalker while it's a creature.

[@MTGMuddstah]

Mutate IS weird, haha!

[@caseywellington4761]

I think that's only if he keeps the keyrune on top of the stack, but I don't really know. Mutate is weird.

[@CriticoDeNo0bs]

Imagine mutating onto animated lands, mutate is weird

[@kstandish42]

Sultai value town is just such a strong combination of colors even with a janky commander concept it proves you can just generate that value relatively easily.

[@MstrKipper]

Reminds me how any commander that is U/B has a cEDH chance

[@DarkEinherjar]

Such sad background music :'(

[@damientalrose553]

Thanks for posting another interesting video :) 5:55 You said the wrong card name, but since the card is on screen, no biggie.

[@MTGMuddstah]

I'm so used to seeing the new one haha! Good catch.

[@Teladun]

Was coming to say same. Haha

[@Shaharazad221]

i'm so confused as to why you didn't remove the counters from ramos to pay for the 1 mana from crystal shard. pls help

[@alslayer18]

He said he thought it was a waste of 9 mana (since he would have to pop ramos counters), but honestly I think he just forgot he could do that and didn't want to admit that.

[@iamthefinal5934]

I love whenever you upload your Ramos mutate. He is who I wanna run my mutate deck with, but right now it's just Yidris. You would think the cascade messes with the mutate, but its actually pretty fun to do, I just know Ramos is much better and gives me access to white.

[@griff_mtg6311]

Three out of the pod: Gg everyone The Kadena player: Why didn't y'all focus me?gg. Next game Pod: Ggs Kadena player: Why did you guys focus on me 😭😭😭

[@afspeellijstnaruto]

Love your ramos deck. Don't give up on it!

[@AnotherMoMmtg]

My Ramos is one of my favorite decks. I have yet to see anything like it. Vadelkin orrery is an amazing card for it

[@00GhostSlayer00]

I can't get enough of these games, I have a problem lol

[@maxfrisch5565]

It is about time the morph deck popped off!

[@cas126]

Ramos morph is the answer to my prayers on how to play all colors of morph

[@generalmayhem4386]

Feels like Chris should've phased out Kadena in Derek's upkeep to slow his momentum in the last turn cycle.

[@Lucarioguild7]

I'm happy for the explanation of Chris's deck at the end, I was so confused thinking its kinda avatar tribal but also playing some really weird includes

[@DylanCEdh]

Dimir sleeves for a Wuberg deck? You mad lad!

[@garethsentry]

Wow that morph deck was awesome, gg

[@michaelparks4663]

May I suggest that putting in a animar into the Ramos deck will help out alot

[@Stripespin]

Request: Bug Chris to share his Morophon list and update the video description! :)

[@sirpumpyshits]

@5:55, while you had the right picture, your narration had the wrong Chainer.

[@ShiningCrimzon]

What's the background song? I've heard it somewhere and it made me think of Jacob's Ladder for some reason

[@corhydrae3238]

What did we learn today, kids? When one of the commanders at the table says "draw a card" and the others don't, better focus on that guy.

[@StormriderSRS21]

The games the last few times seem to have widely varying power levels between the decks. You seem to get hated out of the game very fast and aren’t allowed to get going.

[@MTGMuddstah]

They fear me.

[@StormriderSRS21]

@@MTGMuddstah i just want to see your Ramos actually do stuff. I recently changed my Ramos deck to mutate after I saw your first video running the deck, and really want to see how far your deck can go

[@jordanlawlor89]

No more Egmont? 😭

[@marceloquejinho]

I opened the video to get some ideas on how to play Kadena and ended up being SCHOOLED PS: I don't know if you still have that mutate deck, but Ramos is definitely not the sweetest commander for the strategy, I'd recommend Surgeon Commander 😊

[@connorgibson461]

Chromatic orrery adds so much value to Ramos

[@gamefreak203]

i love these video's and im really interested about your ramos deck. Seems so much fun but is mutate that good in commander? Seems fine but im not sure about it

[@MTGMuddstah]

It's still very much in the rough stages. I need a lot more testing.

[@gamefreak203]

@@MTGMuddstah im looking forward to it :D thanks

[@beesmakehoney1926]

@@MTGMuddstah some cards that give Ward would be a nice inclusion

[@aIexjung]

Is there a chance to see the Lathril list?

[@TheSonic1112]

Would be pretty cool if you could mark the start of the game somehow I don't want to know the hands I just want to see the game

[@jacobisaacs4160]

I’m sorry but is your five color deck in dimir sleeves?

[@MTGMuddstah]

They were the only ones I had on hand! I’m sleeving it up now in just black Eclipses like my other decks.

[@jacobisaacs4160]

@@MTGMuddstah ouch unsleeving just to resleeve is my absolute least favorite thing about magic

[@Cryonicity]

:( no lathrill deck list

[@geekmp3]

Great game!

[@johnaych8954]

I totally would've phased out phage with teferi out of spite to save Mark from dying

[@RedBlue4you]

I think it would have made Derek lose the game at the beginning of his turn when she phases back in too.

[@johnaych8954]

@@RedBlue4you no it wouldn't, phasing doesn't make it change zones or anything, but man that would make it even better lol

[@josemaravilla6955]

Ramos Here he goes

[@rexone9564]

Why Ramos mutate?

[@damientalrose553]

Is that Niv-Mizzet Reborn a misprint or a proxy?

[@MTGMuddstah]

I *believe* it's a miscut foil.

[@emthreadgold]

Muddstah, for what it's worth, I built my 5C mutate deck using Sliver Hivelord as the commander just for the indestructible. Can still be removed and not as fun as Ramos, just a thought.

[@SuperCred1t]

Upsetting I didnt get to see Lathril do more. Stupid Derek.

[@SeanteBrown]

Let’s go 🧝 🧝‍♂️ 🧝‍♀️ ELVES

[@stefanjordan4770]

Any luck on that lathril deck list?

[@juliagaddis9946]

This is what I was here to find. 😭

[@michaelmorgan9086]

I’m just curious why is mutating Ramos a popular deck? I took basically all of the cards from my marchesa the black rose deck made it into that plus using the other colors to make up the lacking bits from marchesa. Like tempting offer, villainous wealth, kamahls Druidic vow, prosh, and all of the maelstrom cards and Aurelia.

[@Schiedog]

Need more protection for Ramos

[@PhazonOmega]

Eeeeee Kadena! And...Phage?!

[@lugh.i]

Yep, it's one of the few ways to put Phage on play without triggering its ability. This version of the deck has different manifest card to put Phage face-down. Then, you get attacked with an innocent 2/2 without any abilities and you don't block, then the manifest is flipped before damage and you die.

[@judsonbates1359]

Why no Toski in your list?

[@MTGMuddstah]

Don’t own one. I should fix that.

[@judsonbates1359]

@@MTGMuddstah no worries. Was just curious. Keep working on that Mutate list! Very original and can’t wait to see it evolve. I love how that channel constantly features obscure but amazing Commanders! Seriously. So much other content is featuring only high powered decks which is just not what I want my EDH experience to be. I love how you mix it up and feature such a cool variety of styles and decks. I have found a couple new Commanders from your videos. Thank you.

[@selvirajoo3476]

Man that ur dragon my might have been huge

[@khariperkins4243]

ozalith in ramos

[@coachgonzalezpg1742]

Kadena is an auto arch enemy in my humble opinion

[@frozezo1565]

Are morphs colorless

[@MTGMuddstah]

Yep

[@ericvargo9324]

Ugh, I want a Niv Mizz-print like that so badly.

[@michaelrichards5253]

Morph! 😲

[@offset2022]

Dats not chenier nightmare adept

[@fallen5771]

Sultai yawn....