We're about to have a bad time! Kibo vs Beamtown Bullies vs Rionya vs Vilis

[@Elbridgina]

This was great because I was kicking around the idea of making Beamtown Bullies and this dissuaded me lol.

[@BadCookies1234]

You can make it WITHOUT the Hellcarver demon. I run a Beamtown Bullies with nothing but one shot budget jank creatures like timbermare or give someone a terrastedon with the agreement that I dont get any elephants. Its a fun deck if you dont build it mean. I had ONE mean card with Rakdos the Defiler, but even that felt bad and I took it out. It can be a lot of fun if you dont poke any bears.

[@joemontondo9113]

​@@BadCookies1234 I now want to make Beantown Bullies as a pure group hug deck...

[@Aurelio4491]

A guy in my playgroup built Beamtown Bullies and wouldn’t stop talking about how fun and janky it is to give someone else a Leveler. No one else was smiling.

[@spencersimons2816]

As someone who has a Beamtown Bullies deck, it certainly does feel bad to do evil things. But also I’m usually playing with my friends and we all collectively find it hilarious. One of my favs (that’s not mean at all it’s just really stupid) is permeating mass. Such a dumb card but I love it so much

[@LilSenwolf]

​@xzigzag023x ah yes turn 5 kills very janky

[@ErikTheRedd1]

Seb dying first was justice

[@semicolon_cancer1243]

"sometimes all you can do is shuffle up and play again" good words to live by

[@sofer2230]

Kinda hilarious that the person who Hellcarver Demon'd two other players got killed first. Appropriate response!

[@DarkEinherjar]

It's called justice: you bully others, you get bullied out of the game.

[@Garl_Vinland]

He would of won if he hellcarvered the girl

[@LDIndustries]

This was truly a game where the CORRECT PLAYER won. The positive karma they generated for sitting at a table with Villis, Rionya, AND BULLIES bringing a Kibo deck was enough for the universe to give them the win.

[@turnipton9871]

Don't discount Kibo's power. That deck can do a lot very quickly if it's giving out mana regularly, especially with some of the bigger monkeys it's got access to.

[@brandyourfan9244]

Ugh.. The Bullies really took two of you completely out of the game. I'm glad that between the three of you, you were able to bully the Bullies, but that was absolutely brutal. Fun to watch, but brutal. Keep up the great work 😊

[@kristopherwatts9466]

They REAALLLLYYY thought the Beamtown Bullies needed haste huh....

[@DarkEinherjar]

Actually, they kinda do... TBT are already held back by the fact that they need to set up the graveyard. If they also had to wait a full rotation, they'd be screwed.

[@kristopherwatts9466]

@@DarkEinherjar I mean technically sure, but they're in Jund. There's approximately 2000471651943 different ways in Jund to give a creature haste.. so in the grand scope of commander, they really didn't

[@DarkEinherjar]

Seeing this game, and after having been given an Eater of Days once, I'm seriously considering standing up from the table if I ever see The Beamtown Bullies again across it...

[@FuegoRedux]

Bullies is on the same tier as Sen Triplets for me. If I see those decks that player will be bullied till they can no longer reasonably cast their commander.

[@Devilish420]

And no one would blame you for it, except maybe the Beantown bullies player but who cares about their input anyway 😆

[@phyrexian_dude4645]

Oh dont worry... my first game agaist Bullies blessed me with a Leveler.

[@FuegoRedux]

@@phyrexian_dude4645 Same. The next game I brought out a Tergrid deck. The table was not amused but fully understood.

[@BadCookies1234]

Yeah.....the Bullies can be mean...

[@magnusmagicus1977]

It does not happen often I catch any error here, but you named and linked Liquimetal Torque, while she played Liquimetal Coating ;)

[@MTGMuddstah]

Good catch!

[@r.a.w.780]

When it came down i thought, wait thats not the right art, has to be the other one 😂

[@MetaKaios]

He also showed Wily Bandar when she played Scrounging Bandar. =/

[@lorchenakumnarth6456]

Having played against Kibo multiple time, he is a strong monkey! This I don't think was a great showing of that IMHO though, sadly. Not a fan of Beamtown Bullies, never will be. This isn't a diss to Seb or the channel by any means ofc, just never found the card to be fun. A very "Ooops, gotcha, XD" commander that sees play once or twice but then does the same thing a bit too often IMO. Similar to Tergrid. I owned a Tergrid deck once, but took it apart because it did the exact same thing and rather than fun games it created games where the pendulum would swing on way a bit too much at times. In this game, it put Kibo in an immense lead while clearly being targeted itself. Thanks for the pinaccle of great content either way!

[@SteakOSaurier]

Nice i love Kibo! looking into building him right now :)

[@Yorsem]

Somehow watching a game with Beamtown Bullies is just as awful as playing against Beamtown Bullies. That was severely lame

[@ferdithetank7535]

Ape escape! What a fitting end to the Bullies

[@ThaMobstarr]

I felt like the Beamtown Bullies kinda acted as a queen maker, since Seb just drew so much hate that Marie could sit back, while you and Max try to get payback.

[@DarkEinherjar]

Jesus Christ, everyone was out for your blood today... if Villis has to deal with that all the time, you really need more board wipes.

[@namoradinhahunter7086]

scrounging bandar was replaced by willy bandar, same for the liquimetal cards

[@BadCookies1234]

Nice job Marie. You were lucky enough not to get Hellcarved. nice job trying to battle back for everyone else. If Maxime spread around a lot of that hate that was being thrown andrew's way early....maybe no one gets Hellcarved.

[@Googleflax]

Why did Marie destroy Arcane Signet with Boseiju? She replaces one mana rock (that produces 1) with one land, being net neutral.

[@soterisshakides7981]

If someone played with a deck like Sebs in our pod, he would not have been allowed to do it twice. Land deprivation is a Huge no-no as it removes fun from EDH.

[@hunterransom2594]

Grow up

[@travisbrandt8663]

I love how this game is literally Jund - Gruul - Mono red- Mono black - Its just jund and jund adjacent

[@newtpondskipper]

Love seeing a zodiac monkey, great deck.

[@BladedCreed]

Would the hellcarver demon be exiled after it was used by the beamtown bullies?

[@cerebralisk]

it got destroyed by the board wipe first i think

[@astonrichardson5288]

That demon was a feels bad moment

[@CKarasu13]

I rarely have to deal with the bullies ruining my turns since I make a habit of running enough removal and graveyard hate that I end up shutting them out of the game. I ain't about to deal with that.

[@Swagandalf]

I thought beam town bullies exiled the creature so couldn't use the demon again

[@LzyBn1987]

It does except Andrew blew up the first one with that decree of pain so it went back into the graveyard to hit again. Brutal game

[@Burevix]

The way BTB is worded makes it so that if the zone changes the exile affect no longer applies. Muddstah doomed someone else to get it lol

[@DavidMitchells]

@@LzyBn1987 I thought so as well.. I must have missed the decree of pain.

[@ToHitACZero]

I played against a Beamtown Bullies deck once and it was immediately added to the list of "kill on sight" commanders. No thanks, satan!

[@brendylove4285]

Does beamtown bullies not exile the creature at the end of the turn?

[@papanurgle1169]

Yes the creature get exiled

[@DarkEinherjar]

It got destroyed by Decree of Pain.

[@MTGMuddstah]

It does if it's still on the field. In most of these cases the creature was destroyed before that happened.

[@LilSenwolf]

Now that is a line up of commanders

[@madddawgg2]

The spite against Seb gave the win to Marie. They should have recognized Marie was unstoppable and worked together. Instead they helped her eliminate Seb. Spite is not a strategy.

[@travisbrandt8663]

They bullied the crap out of you Andrew this game. I know vilis is kinda brutal if he gets left alone. But i think this was kinda unnecessary

[@Darchias]

I don't run Hellcarver Demon in my Bullies deck. Doesn't instantly kill like Leveler, isn't extremely janky like forced dualcaster mage onto Glorious End, just misery.

[@Spirited_skiing]

I love the title! It was not wrong

[@SeekerOf7ruth]

Making use of Hellcarver Demon that early on was not a great play on Seb's part. Better to save it as a Sword of Damocles, or have it available as a potential, if chaotic, finisher. Or simply not have it in the deck.

[@Daknight83]

How did hellcraver demon get used twice? it gets exiled

[@danpasquale1620]

i love my beamtown deck it's brutal but seb deff flew too close to the sun you have to establish a board state before you start annihilating people's boards otherwise you get teamed up on (rightfully so)

[@oakmountain2788]

Brutal game!

[@Yindori]

Is it possible to update the Kibo decklist link? Not working for me at the moment and would love to see how the deck was built!

[@stevenshafer2817]

I love beamtown bullies but seb really had no plays after gifting the hellcarver demon, so it was deserved he got taken out

[@gustaferikmoland704]

Yess Bully beatdown"! hope someone gets eater of days > saw in half > cauldron of souls > undying evil for 10 turns xD

[@mopanda81]

hitting decree of pain off the hellcarver demon, sending it to GY so it could come back for another go was pretty awful luck

[@Lordofthefries94]

I would recommend swapping out vilis for the new sheoldred or krrik I’ve noticed they’re both a bit more consistent than vilis and much easier to get onto the field. Granted no matter which one you run it will be a target on your back since it’s mono black

[@felixin02]

Does not help that hand with 5 lands, a counter and a finisher.. probably mulligan

[@Lordofthefries94]

@@felixin02 fair point I’ve run all three as commanders at one point or another and personal opinion vilis just does better in the 99. Krrik is my favorite of the three but they have great synergy together regardless of who’s at the helm. I’ve just always preferred the cost reduction that krrik offers it opens up some faster play and makes it more consistent. To each their own however

[@kevinkennedy-8606]

@@Lordofthefries94 Krrik definitely puts the biggest target on ur back tho. Easiest to just go oops I win with him. I have a Krrik deck and I’ve learned to only cast him with either protection or when I can get immediate value cuz he almost never survives a turn cycle

[@Lordofthefries94]

@@kevinkennedy-8606 oh for sure I used to run a turbo krrik deck so unless I won on turn one or two I was guaranteed archenemy of the game

[@kevinkennedy-8606]

@@Lordofthefries94 yeah he’s definitely a boogeyman lol. And for good reason. Best way to slow him down is to punch him until he’s too low to do anything. Until he plays Gary

[@ThaMobstarr]

I don‘t quite get it. How was he able to get Hellcarver Demon out of his graveyard twice with Beamtown Bullies. The effect on BTB says that the creature is exiled at the end step.

[@ThaMobstarr]

I just read in another comment that the Hellcarver was destroyed by Decree of Pain before he could be exiled.

[@tendo339]

that demon was devastating

[@jinbam]

14:18 yep they vilis had big hate this game XD

[@rileystepaniuk3389]

You definitely couldve cast vilis the turn you played blood celebrant, you had urborg+crypt ghast, two other lands, two rocks, and a medallion

[@DarkEinherjar]

Didn't Marie have artifact hate + Liquimetal Torque? Villis would just get destroyed.

[@hrocxvid]

I think Beamtown Bullies is a cool card and I support people playing what they want to play buuuuuuuut Hellcarver demon seems unfun to me and I personally would not play that card in a Beamtown Bullies deck

[@ColonelKoopa]

thats how the Beamtown Bullies deck go. You give the opponents a "you lose the game" card. No disrespect to the channel of course but goddamn it's not a fun commander to go up against at all and I refuse to ever go up against one again

[@miguelalmendras3126]

Not that it's relevant but shouldn't Green Sun's Zenith get shuffled back from the library after casting it?

[@andrewjakubiak-cq8dy]

At the start of the game how die Marie's monkey get counters when she cast it after kibo died?

[@TheSteve_1992]

This Bullies deck was disgusting. In a good way. But that demon is a real kick in the nuts

[@zachhannah8927]

I may be wrong, but it sure seems like you get targeted in a majority of your games, and this is the game that finally made me say something about it...

[@Zekaisa]

You really can’t let villis set up.

[@germanyjones2700]

Yikes that game was a foregone conclusion

[@44Midfield]

Dang, what did you do to max to make him bully you?

[@MTGMuddstah]

I said I was prettier.

[@cosmosveil9355]

Beamtown Bullies is a feels bad card because every time I've played against it I prioritize either removing them, exiling their controller's graveyard, or just eliminating their owner from the game. I normally like to at least let people play the game but BB basically says "Target player loses the game" and you can't afford to let it do its thing even once.

[@Marsh_MallowMan]

what caused your withered wretch, and gray merchant to go to your graveyard immediately after casting?

[@MM-lv7iy]

Decree of Pain.

[@DarkEinherjar]

He wanted to draw more cards when resolving Decree of Pain

[@notimportant768]

Man I wish I could play with you all.

[@ruirei6139]

2 questions, why does everyone hate you and why didnt Seb give Marie the hellcarver instead of the ox?

[@MM-lv7iy]

Why you bully me? Why you bully me, everyone ask?

[@Andreasws24]

I don't think the demon is mean enough so im gonna make the bullies with Leveler in it 😂

[@ga_ga_gang_minecraft6595]

Ngl, Andrew getting targeted about the entire game is wack.

[@ga_ga_gang_minecraft6595]

Also granted, hellcarver demon is just mean magic…

[@Devilish420]

Yea I thought it was bogus that max kept targeting Andrew considering that they both had an equal start while seb was ramping like there's no tomorrow.

[@Garl_Vinland]

If Seb was smart, he would have done the same Hellcarver trick with Marie. But I feel like he got soft with her

[@Devilish420]

sheesh, Andrew was getting bullied way too hard in this game for no good reason. Villis isn't the "kill the player on sight" commander everyone thinks he is. he's expensive af and there's no guarantee that you're gonna get the ramp you need to cast him. Meanwhile the beamtown bullies player was ramping lands like there's no tomorrow and max thought Andrew was the threat, smh max deserved to get hellcarved demon'd into oblivion.

[@theNEWMASKSdudexxx]

It tends to happen a lot in his videos. Personally I think a lot of the people he plays against know they are gonna be on KZbin and so they think taking out the KZbinr would make them look cool for their audience.

[@Devilish420]

@@theNEWMASKSdudexxx Yea that kinda shit is scummy imo. If it was me, I'd have a zero tolerance policy against that shiz. Not only would I ban the players who think it's cute to try and do that from playing while I'm filming, but I'd make sure to not put up any vids that those players are featured in.

[@FrostbiteKelvin]

I play Beamtown Bullies and I really dislike the Hellcarver Deamon... not because is unfair, but because it doesn't get the job done. I think the way to go is have a lot of cards to move around one hit combos and way to assemble them. I run a lot of entomb like effects and destroy target creature to hit my own brought by the bullies.

[@calebbrown1068]

It's a shame that Beamtown Bullies FEELS so cool yet in practice really wants to be played lame. Makes me wonder if there's a non-Eater of Days/Leveler suite of creatures to give.

[@MTGMuddstah]

It's an odd commander, to be sure. It begs to built in one very specific way that can often lead to some unfun games.

[@SteepWriter]

Shame, hope Prof gets his first win in the next video

[@CAPTAINCHAOS_]

Is Beamtow Bullies the problem? I think it’s Seb’s decision to run Hellcarver Demon. That seems a bit overkill outside high level / cEDH games. Very unfun IMHO.

[@DarkEinherjar]

Yes, it is. TBT players only run those creatures with terrible effects because TBT allows them to easily reanimate them on the opponent's field. Hellcarver Demon is just one creature. They also run Leveler, Eater of Days, Inverter of Truth... I was given an Eater of Days once, and it wasn't fun.

[@yannickroy1573]

The amount of salt emanating from the comment section because of beamtown is absolute gold haha

[@MystikSwordzManZ]

Face to Face doesn't sponsor you no more?

[@vauk5081]

Beamtown Bullies is legit my least favorite commander. It's the same crap everytime someone pulls it out. For some reason, I'm always the Leveler target. I don't know what Wizards was thinking printing the card but I honestly think it was a mistake.

[@eternaleclypse]

Between Max utilizing his removal on your board instead of having it ready for TBT and Seb's plays in general, this game was just not enjoyable to watch. It's good to see Kibo take the win, but not enough to want to see those plays again

[@TheMNZGrandeRio]

This game is the exact reason why I dislike Beamtown Bullies. Pick a player or two to effectively lose the game, and then what?

[@DarkEinherjar]

The problem isn't losing, it's that anything other than Leveler, which ends things on the spot, puts the targeted opponent in the MtG limbo, unable to participate in the game.

[@connorl0204]

Technically speaking, players don’t gain priority during the draw step unless something puts a trigger onto the stack. Seb would’ve had to do the ox off agonas either during her upkeep (letting her draw a card afterwards in her draw step) or during her first main phase at the first time he had priority (presumably after she’s taken some sort of game action like casting a spell or activating an ability).

[@connorl0204]

Marie also should’ve gained 5 life for destroying the bullies after playing the fangren marauders because bullies were an artifact at the time of its untimely demise.

[@DarkEinherjar]

Yes, they do. That's exactly why there are very few discard effects that work at instant speed. The only steps where players don't get priority at all are the untap step and, if no triggers go to the stack there, the cleanup step.

[@maxbodifee3263]

Being able to play those horrible cards doesn't mean you should. They make games unfun for the rest of the table, or at least for the players that got hosed

[@joebob7483]

Mmm... Monke

[@crovax1375]

You know I have see Beamtown Bullies in action!

[@danielwhite6324]

It was hard to watch all that land destruction... It really slowed down the game.

[@Googleflax]

Really don't like this version of Beamtown Bullies where the entire point of the deck is to make everyone miserable and have a bad time.

[@martin9224]

That beamtown deck was disgusting and I love it

[@kevinkennedy-8606]

Yeah beamtown sucks. Essentially gave Marie a free win. Also no one thought to blow up the coating. Like cmon bro the deck is literally built around blowing artifacts up.

[@drunkgerbil9962]

Man your playgroup is toxic. Sorry to see that

[@jonathanjimenez6548]

All this hate on seb, why? I heard once that friends are just opponents, you haven't eliminated yet.

[@MTGMuddstah]

Seb ate all the pizza.

[@jonathanjimenez6548]

@@MTGMuddstah lol

[@rudgesanders9268]

With Crypt Ghast out there you had enough mana for your commander.

[@xavierjimenez6592]

Kibo?......as in Slice?