Yisan vs Morophon vs Daretti vs Animar

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MTG Muddstah

MTG Muddstah

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@ErikTheRedd1
@ErikTheRedd1 4 жыл бұрын
2:35 Mesmeric orb : "Mill one!" Ulamog: "Sup" Orb: "Understandable, have a nice day"
@stephenblevins3829
@stephenblevins3829 4 жыл бұрын
A single spot removal, bounce, or board wipe and the Yisan deck cries.
@HotBoxHoodie
@HotBoxHoodie 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, being someone that plays the boy Yisan. It is quite resiliant of a deck. Especially with being a stacks version of Yisan. Which at that point the spells only hurt other players cuz my commander just cheats things in and gets free manna a lot.
@JairoPanzerHolthausen
@JairoPanzerHolthausen 4 жыл бұрын
@@HotBoxHoodie Exactly.
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын
@@HotBoxHoodie I saw a Winter Orb being milled, so that was probably a Stax version.
@shayneweyker
@shayneweyker 4 жыл бұрын
Unless they have Heroic Intervention or open mana and Tenur Sabertooth (or a way to pull it out at instant speed).
@awesomeatm
@awesomeatm 4 жыл бұрын
@@HotBoxHoodie As the Yisan player in the video, I agree. It's a very resilient deck and has some real grind to it! :)
@Wolfspane
@Wolfspane 4 жыл бұрын
Aidan at 9:23 should have gotten 7 mana from the Priest. It counts all elves on the battlefield and Morophon is a changeling. Idk how much it matter in the end though.
@awesomeatm
@awesomeatm 4 жыл бұрын
Hey everyone! Yisan player from the video. Thank you so much for checking out the game and so great to see all your comments! It was a lot of fun playing with Chris, Skylar, and Emil. We played some more even games after this one :) Feel free to ask any questions, I will try to get to the ones that are already here.
@awesomeatm
@awesomeatm 4 жыл бұрын
Here's my decklist too: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tappin-n-slappin/
@r1nsync
@r1nsync 4 жыл бұрын
Elves players be like “WHY YOU HATIN ME BRO THEYRE A BUNCH IF MANA DORKS” *next turn*” craterhoof for +12345678/12345678 “
@Someone-lg6di
@Someone-lg6di 4 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw yissen I knew they needed a board wipe
@hiddenleaf414
@hiddenleaf414 4 жыл бұрын
Every time I see Yidan or Godo on youtube they do so well. Every time I play them in real life they get removed once or twice and the player does absolutely nothing the whole game.
@adamrawn2063
@adamrawn2063 4 жыл бұрын
I think for online play they don't play many wipes; too slow. Real life there are usually more. In other words, online favours Green even more than it already is...
@condemned70
@condemned70 4 жыл бұрын
Loved your short analysis at the end! Would be fun if you included more of your thoughts in to the outros.
@3deep4you
@3deep4you 4 жыл бұрын
Duplicant on the Beast Whisperer instead of Yisan sums it all up on the threat assessment of the table
@BickyNuckley
@BickyNuckley 4 жыл бұрын
Janan Lim I’ll never understand threat assessment in Muddstah videos
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын
Better than messing with Yisan's activations by getting suboptimal creatures: mess with them by not getting any creatures at all. You can do so, because if a tutor specifies the card you're searching for, you can choose to not find anything, even if you have a card that meets the search criteria. That being said, recurring Mindslaver over and over again to mess with Yisan would probably end up painting a target on YOUR chest instead, because your other opponents would quickly realize they'd be the next in line if they didn't stop you.
@quarterknight3572
@quarterknight3572 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like a single creature board wipe about halfway through the game would've knocked Yisan out of the game since at one point I thought I heard you say he had only a single land. Being left with just 1 land halfway through the game would just knock anyone out of the game.
@zachw3548
@zachw3548 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty good game but it seemed everyone was more enjoying doing their own thing this game instead of threat assessing and dealing with each other throughout
@astonrichardson5288
@astonrichardson5288 4 жыл бұрын
Man alive that was a quick game! Cool finish though. Can't go wrong with Ol' Reliable Craterhoof
@awesomeatm
@awesomeatm 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed!! Hoof makes me happy! :)
@LAmanafull6246
@LAmanafull6246 4 жыл бұрын
The very first second i saw this green commander, i knew how it would end : "craterhoof for the win" How original... And people yell about cyclonic rift
@noahpetrasko6777
@noahpetrasko6777 4 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you play a combo deck against a table of zero interaction. Like sure it's a fast combo but of course it's gonna look insanely op when the rest of the table is going "land, pass." Or "random useless dork pass"
@andyspendlove1019
@andyspendlove1019 4 жыл бұрын
I hate Craterhoof so muxh
@piralos1329
@piralos1329 4 жыл бұрын
KZbin unfortunately failed to notify me, but my goodness I could honestly listen to your voice for all eternity. Especially with the music playing behind, you've done an amazing job with the sound design! But, you really do have a voice like Morgan Freeman or such, you could read out a phone book and it'd be both soothing and interesting.
@JohnathonMinjarez
@JohnathonMinjarez 4 жыл бұрын
Aiden did a decent job with piloting Yisan but had so many missed triggers or the ability to double search at certain CMCS. You are able to stack the find triggers if you untap at instant speed. I am sure he might have been able to win sooner had he drawn with the guardian project. Also unsure why he didn't take the 6 not allowing the duplicate as he was in a commanding lead and enough blockers to stop any aggro.
@awesomeatm
@awesomeatm 4 жыл бұрын
This game was filmed a week or two after I had finished the Yisan deck, so I stuck to the line that I had started with the basic line I put in the deck instead of double searching.
@JohnathonMinjarez
@JohnathonMinjarez 4 жыл бұрын
Aidan Morris It is a very difficult deck pilot given the number of lines I think overall you did well given the time from built to playing. Do your best to be aware of your own triggers and draws.
@illakunsaa
@illakunsaa 4 жыл бұрын
At 10:16 when Skylar cast his Sol Ring it should etb tapped due to Manglehorn.
@madFEAT
@madFEAT 4 жыл бұрын
Aiden missed a mill trigger from untapping Yisan, which might not have mattered, but technically could've milled the creature he was searching for or Craterhoof. at 7:54
@awesomeatm
@awesomeatm 4 жыл бұрын
Very true! I also missed drawing like 10 cards - we try our best!
@rossf8616
@rossf8616 4 жыл бұрын
did you get a new camera/lighting setup? This lighting is amazing! Don't change a thing!
@trentbrooks2208
@trentbrooks2208 4 жыл бұрын
That was considerably one-sided.
@fel_95
@fel_95 4 жыл бұрын
Poor skylar basically just played lands all the game, and when he got a couple creatures out, he lost
@CJSpitler
@CJSpitler 4 жыл бұрын
Love me a good Elf deck. Had similar success once swapping Yisan into my Marwyn deck, but my playgroup didn't have nearly as much fun.
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын
Mesmeric Orb did so much work in this game... I can't wait for mine to arrive for my recently built Sidisi deck. :)
@campernocamping1
@campernocamping1 4 жыл бұрын
That reclamation sage pitch was painful.
@kustomkrunch
@kustomkrunch 4 жыл бұрын
I know this was 2 months ago, but does anyone have that Yisan deck list that Aiden played?
@bukie
@bukie 4 жыл бұрын
WHERE WAS THE BOARD WIPE!?
@awesomeatm
@awesomeatm 4 жыл бұрын
What I was wondering the whole game! Hahaha!
@jonmagic1123
@jonmagic1123 4 жыл бұрын
I was hoping to see alot more from the god deck. I almost built it but stopped bc i didn't think it would work very well. Super interested in seeing it in action
@awesomeatm
@awesomeatm 4 жыл бұрын
Played against the Gods deck later that day, it was a really fun and interesting deck!!
@JQtheDon
@JQtheDon 4 жыл бұрын
Where did skylar get that mat?
@pedrobrito2158
@pedrobrito2158 4 жыл бұрын
Could you please post the Yisan list?
@awesomeatm
@awesomeatm 4 жыл бұрын
Here's the list! tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tappin-n-slappin/
@orgazmo686971
@orgazmo686971 4 жыл бұрын
I feel conflicted between wanting the green deck to win and hating Yisan.
@awesomeatm
@awesomeatm 4 жыл бұрын
Very fair, Yisan is one of my favourite commanders though 🙈
@CeilingNinja
@CeilingNinja 4 жыл бұрын
I think this is the first Yisan deck I've seen that actually worked
@Deris76
@Deris76 4 жыл бұрын
Optimized decks that are let alone like in this game can be pretty damn brutal. It's not cEDH viable because it's super dependent on its commander, but it can be a solid 8-8.5/10
@CeilingNinja
@CeilingNinja 4 жыл бұрын
@@Deris76 It's probably because every time I saw a Yisan deck it got hard countered
@Deris76
@Deris76 4 жыл бұрын
@@CeilingNinja tbf it can get its yisan pretty quickly to 8 counters so it kinda has to be countered on sight hahah
@user-ym9wk5iz6m
@user-ym9wk5iz6m 4 жыл бұрын
@@Deris76 Yisan has been lapped a bit by some newer commanders but he's still a perfectly viable choice in Cedh.
@dvadim9848
@dvadim9848 4 жыл бұрын
Someone should tell Aidan to double up on Yisan triggers whenever possible. If you can untap at instant speed, why not go search for two 5 drops instead of a 4 and 5 drop?
@noahpetrasko6777
@noahpetrasko6777 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with your point, but yisan usually has a lot more powerful cards in the 4 slot than the 5 slot. At 4 you can get cards like sabertooth and karametras acolyte to go infinite with an untapper like quirion, or acidic slime and thought-knot seer for that sweet value. On 5 usually yisan has seedborne and basically nothing else.
@fickett7870
@fickett7870 4 жыл бұрын
If aiden's turns were always controlled then they could just "fail to find" with yisan each turn which would have slowed him down a bit granted with all his untaps he could do it on each other persons turn anyway.
@Sniperfuchs
@Sniperfuchs 4 жыл бұрын
I think the key mistake was just being so slow to react. Imo, in a "normal" game where everyone is on the same page, NOT playing Yisan on turn 2 would have been a mistake, cause you lose an entire turn to climb up the ladder to the Craterhoof. However, Aidan was given all the time in the world to just chill and hang back, which is not what you want to see as an oponent. Resetting the clock even once with spot removal is devastating, let alone a board wipe. In stronger (or cEDH) groups it's risky cause you don't wanna blow that removal that could stop someone else from straight up winning the game, but in this slow-paced game, it would have been perfectly fine since nobody seemed like they play the kind of deck that just wins out of nowhere. Just comes down to proper threat assessment for this one, but you learn from your mistakes.
@rorykitchen2727
@rorykitchen2727 4 жыл бұрын
You're right, that Mindslaver needed to target the Yissan player. He had two chances to use it.
@rayquaza4948
@rayquaza4948 4 жыл бұрын
Was just thinking of rebuilding animar!
@jeffnorris211
@jeffnorris211 4 жыл бұрын
I made a new enemy at my local game Store when someone entwined tooth and nail, got vorinclex and blightsteel colossus. I mind slavered him and I was the bad guy....
@pabloluistovarruiz5648
@pabloluistovarruiz5648 4 жыл бұрын
Not the hero your local game needs, but the one it deserves
@Avatarbee
@Avatarbee 4 жыл бұрын
Did they really not see the craterhoof coming?
@buzzedhonestly6611
@buzzedhonestly6611 2 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong but I believe when you untapped yisan at instant speed you don't search for a "4 drop then a 5 drop" the counters resolve before the search so you actually Tudor for two 5 drops.
@happybrain2674
@happybrain2674 4 жыл бұрын
Before watching, who do you thing wins?
@saffronscursex
@saffronscursex 4 жыл бұрын
I know it was a casual deck, but... Animar enchantments? Might wana rethink that deck
@middknight5202
@middknight5202 4 жыл бұрын
when Yisan Untapped he shoulld've milled since Orb was still on the field when he searched for manglehorn. great vid still!
@AidanWR
@AidanWR 4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure you can announce that you fail to find, even if you have legal targets, but I'm uncertain with Yisan
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын
You are correct: when any search effect specifies the card you search for, you can choose to fail to find anything.
@faerie7dragon
@faerie7dragon 4 жыл бұрын
I might consider getting a Regal Force after watching time and time again do so much work.
@awesomeatm
@awesomeatm 4 жыл бұрын
Regal Force is BOMB, would highly recommend!! :)
@novaknight30
@novaknight30 4 жыл бұрын
The lack of board wipes and removal on this channel is criminal
@nicksternyr8728
@nicksternyr8728 4 жыл бұрын
Oh wait yisen can summon a 5 converted mana creature if he has 6 counters or more? Wasnt sure how this card works
@awesomeatm
@awesomeatm 4 жыл бұрын
Yisan searches for a creature for the amount of counters on him - so with 5, you search for a 5 drop.
@behemoth1158
@behemoth1158 4 жыл бұрын
Feels like skylar should put more ramp in his deck
@theshusher1234
@theshusher1234 4 жыл бұрын
That animar was slow, my freinds animar usually got out by turn two and if not kept in check wins by like turn five at the latest
@TxarlesN
@TxarlesN 4 жыл бұрын
My Thor's day is complete now 😌
@Rasmussen2750
@Rasmussen2750 4 жыл бұрын
Fellow Viking i salute you
@TxarlesN
@TxarlesN 4 жыл бұрын
Skol, my friend.
@arturol.m.7245
@arturol.m.7245 4 жыл бұрын
Niceeee
@pokeyclawz8727
@pokeyclawz8727 4 жыл бұрын
Even a more casual yisan deck is really strong and needs to be focused. I used to play combo yisan and if he lived a turn or two usually won the game. Took it apart though cuz it was hella boring and repetitive
@awesomeatm
@awesomeatm 4 жыл бұрын
I hear you, games can be boring and repetitive, though against decks with strong interaction I still really enjoy whipping out the perfect answer with Yisan!
@aR0ttenBANANA
@aR0ttenBANANA 4 жыл бұрын
is that a LoL playmat?
@jagojuice9133
@jagojuice9133 4 жыл бұрын
not trying to be mean but i dont get how people "forget, or dont realize" how their deck works. like how do u just forget to draw alot more cards or do other combos etc..
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 4 жыл бұрын
jago juice people are socializing while playing. It can happen in a really animated conversation or if you’re tired.
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын
You have to take into account how long the game took, and how many other games they played before that one. The longer you play nonstop, the more your physical and mental condition deteriorates, making it easier to make such mistakes. Besides, these are casual games, so people are not that worried about playing with absolute perfection.
@jagojuice9133
@jagojuice9133 4 жыл бұрын
@@MTGMuddstah guess that makes sense cld happen to the best of us ^^
@jagojuice9133
@jagojuice9133 4 жыл бұрын
@@DarkEinherjar thats true we usually play for 8hrs + every sunday guess just doesnt affect me like others
@rafaellumrodas350
@rafaellumrodas350 4 жыл бұрын
so good quality!!!!!
@justaredux7137
@justaredux7137 4 жыл бұрын
Yisan: Cursed Totem: Hello there.
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын
Don't you mean Cursed Totem? Null Rod is for artifacts...
@yoshisalaverry5502
@yoshisalaverry5502 4 жыл бұрын
_LAY _ORE _RATHS
@jeffnorris211
@jeffnorris211 4 жыл бұрын
One would’ve been good lol
@ryantice1186
@ryantice1186 4 жыл бұрын
Yisan players unite! Easily my favorite deck out of my many, with Emry a close second.
@awesomeatm
@awesomeatm 4 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah brother! 👍
@amigo3628
@amigo3628 4 жыл бұрын
Aidan decllist pls
@awesomeatm
@awesomeatm 4 жыл бұрын
Here you go! Sorry for the delay: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tappin-n-slappin/
@vexinggames9856
@vexinggames9856 4 жыл бұрын
Animar enchantments? So weird...
@marceloquejinho
@marceloquejinho 4 жыл бұрын
Emil? More like E-Mill 😜
@ChevronSeven
@ChevronSeven 4 жыл бұрын
Yisan is stronk.
@murilohenriquebedore84
@murilohenriquebedore84 4 жыл бұрын
Elves s2
@metoo1477
@metoo1477 3 жыл бұрын
Yisan player was sandbagging, lol
@lokumo13
@lokumo13 4 жыл бұрын
I was expecting a Green Lab Maniac at some point...
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын
Shhh, don't give them any ideas...
@awesomeatm
@awesomeatm 4 жыл бұрын
I love my Lab man, but Hoof always warms my heart ❤
@amethystwyvern
@amethystwyvern 4 жыл бұрын
Daretti again.
@johnmalayny2437
@johnmalayny2437 4 жыл бұрын
Yisan busted.
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