Multi 21 revisited - and what Mark Webber thinks of it now

Sebastian Vettel's reluctance to follow Ferrari team orders at the Russian Grand Prix brought back memories of the Red Bull 'Multi 21' controversy he sparked by overtaking Mark Webber to win the 2013 Malaysian Grand Prix. As well as hearing from Webber on what he thinks about the incident today, we take a look back at the fallout from the race, including the questions it raised about Red Bull's management

[@plusgood15]

Webber has looked 35 for about 15 years now

[@davidmacdonald1695]

You missed the 1 in front of the 35.

[@amiqai]

He is the embodiment of something called "Multi 35".

[@coffeeman882]

@@amiqai lol nice one

[@drew425]

And better has looked 41 for 8

[@tractorback76]

But women think they're the prize (hint, men are the prize).

[@JonathanTohShengYau]

I like how KZbin's algorithm keeps recommending the Multi-21 video after the Russian GP and now here's a new upload of it days later lol

[@Jluna16]

I thought I was the only one being bombard with old multi-21 videos

[@rohitkumar-nb5ym]

@@Jluna16 hehe

[@alex_rodriguez777]

ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED!!! THE EARTH IS FLAT MOON LANDING IS FAKED WILLIAMS 2020 CHAMPIONS

[@StopMediaFakery]

21 is 777 in Freemasonry and is often used in hoaxes. This was just typical staged Masonic pantomime to keep the sheep watching.

[@matthiascerebri3315]

Really?

[@MattBakerDrums]

Mark saying Seb is often caught between heart and head is spot on. Love Seb outside of the car but inside it you can question some of his actions.

[@malikpalao1762]

vettel was so young tht time, just like leclerc today..they think they are king of the world, their adrenaline was so high, they are so hungry to win..

[@utubedano]

@@PVflying You're right! Actions speak louder than words...

[@Euclides287]

I've actually *gained* a lot of respect for Ferrari for leaving Vettel out too long on worn out tyres so *Leclerc* could get the *undercut.* It shows they won't tolerate what Seb used to do at *Red Bull* without punishment. Chris Horner was *too soft* on Seb.

[@fiskfisk33]

​@@Euclides287 Also it can hurt them in the long run if they have drivers that mistrust eachother and are therefore less likely to honor team orders

[@gamefan56]

@@Euclides287 So you are happy that Ferrari actively hurt themselves allowing Mercedes to get closer by keeping Vettel out so long just so Leclerc could undercut him despite Vettel being the quicker driver?

[@mrangusw.vanderbilt2123]

My late brother & I went to the Malaysian Gp in 2013 (we're Australian's) & were so happy when MW took the lead as it looked a sure win -until - Vettel's - pass. MW did try to hunt him back down but just couldn't catch him. I had the pleasure of meeting & chatting with SV in person at Suzuka 2017 in the Ferrari Hospitality Room he even got me a coffee, totally nice down to earth guy. You only get 1 F1 career, I know Senna & Schumacher would have done the same thing. Don't you think?

[@diogonunes1865]

Now that's a very good point and not some random news trying to guess what the hell is going on inside the team, what they where planning and what's going through a driver's head, but still ignoring that their guess is very likely wrong.

[@monibenn.]

What an amazing point you’ve made. This should get A LOT more likes.

[@deanbilton]

He once made me a coffee too but as he went to hand it to me, he snatched it back and drank it. He just cant let go I guess.

[@mrangusw.vanderbilt2123]

@@deanbilton lol, made me laugh ! I changed my profile pic to SV & Myself so you know its not BS.

[@stooby267]

Both Senna and schumacher did questionable things in their careers but you know what? That's what made them the greats. The willingness to do whatever it took to win. Seb is a 4 time champion. One of the greats. He has the mentality of a champion.

[@TheMattDOOM]

Sooo Team orders = Bad. Ignoring team orders = Also bad. ???

[@Rocky712_]

Yeah, so we come to the conclusion: Ferrari is the mistake. They should not do team orders.

[@swisscheese1084]

@@Rocky712_ let me hear you say it on Mercedes then with Bottas in tow

[@Rocky712_]

@@swisscheese1084 You cannot compare this. Both Ferraris´ were on similiar pace for many races - the mercedes not. Most of the time one of them is a lot faster than the team mate.

[@swisscheese1084]

@@Rocky712_ you misunderstood mate. You said that Ferrari should not do team orders. So if that should happen then everyone should not do team orders as well. I only pointed out Mercedes because they had done team orders as well in the past in which fans were also disgusted by it and it made headlines. I may be wrong about this but are you by any chance a Ferrari hater?

[@Rocky712_]

@@swisscheese1084 Haha, i did not misunderstand it. :D I know Mercedes used team orders before and F1 Fans (as I am) hated it. But because you called Bottas, I thought about Mercedes 2019 season compared to Ferrari's one. They were totally different. They [Mercedes] never really had to do team orders because they never really had the two mercedes fighting for position because of pace difference....maybe Azerbaijan if you want to count it. I am not a Ferrari Hater. Ferrari is one of my most loved teams (maybe the most loved) with two of my favourite drivers while I am bored by Mercedes, do not like Hamilton at all (on character). But I still cheered for this Mercedes 1-2 at Russia 2019 because Ferrari deserved to lose this race due to their disrespecting, anti-racing mentality. I literally do not know how you came to the absolutely wrong conclusion, that I am a Ferrari Hater. :D I mean even many other Ferrari Fans disliked this team order and I am not an exception for this. Even as a Fan, I should critisize wrong decision, because I would critisize Mercedes in this situation the same.

[@lotfimidou383]

if guenther steiner gave the order that day there would be no multi 21 story🤣

[@Adam-qs3lt]

Lotfi Midou bonch of vankers

[@siddhantpatil292]

I agree

[@mopedbro]

he is a great guy. but he cant even manage his two drivers in the race....

[@nicculessman4069]

He does not fok smash my door

[@ghostly620]

Where was big man Guenther at the time?

[@aaasss-lv6nl]

In a beyond the grid podcast Mark admits to being intimidating and cold towards vettel ever since vettel joined the team, in his own words he wanted to "put vettel in his place" when he first joined, and often tried to play mind games on him. It's unsurprising really that vettel didn't feel so bad for this incident in the end, calling it payback

[@GregzVR]

Briatore calling integrity into account is amusing, but he was brutal when required.

[@sultanabran1]

he said balls, didn't mention integrity

[@Dean0017]

Well Max is running the team now, so I guess things haven't changed.

[@jochem1986]

Yes but Max doesn’t have a teammate that can match his pace and become a problem.

[@sovietry4944]

They don't even have a permanent second driver yet, why would they let gasly or albon make decisions if they don't even know if either of them will even be in the team next year.

[@maurizioarrivabene8182]

@@robertobrien1069 im sure you know who mercedes is talking to, lmao

[@Ben_Mayall]

Jochem the problem is the car is devoted to Max’ driving style. That’s why Gasly is much faster in a Toro Rosso as it suits his driving style better.

[@xhellystarx]

@@jochem1986 He did have one that he couldn't beat in two seasons in a row and only beat him in one season when this teammate had a shit ton of bad luck with his engine: Daniel Ricciardo. ;)

[@julianbeck2408]

5:44 just look at that. Vettel's suspension not breaking at that point honestly is a miracle.

[@michalsik5888]

Wow, i've never noticed that before. What a luck Seb had that day...

[@bazil83]

I was about to post the same thing - that's the first time I've seen a still of it from that angle. Absolutely crazy. I hope whoever was responsible for building that piece of the suspension got a bonus! Ha.

[@whohouuu]

redbull cars can only be damaged due to the stupidity of the drivers themselves, other redbull cars, or by mercedes

[@panmpap4679]

Multi 21 didn’t come out of nowhere as Mark said. There was actually an order called Multi 12 which was issued at the 2011 British GP and Mark disobeyed it. In addition, there was the 2012 Brazilian GP and Seb’s Ego and desire to win (which all champs have) which led to that situation.

[@brycestewart4717]

That’s spot on with the ego honestly

[@andrewstorm8240]

Yes good point

[@roshanhuded2]

The fact that Red bull put both cars on very different tyres on the last stint also goes under the radar alot. Orange Hards for Webber & White faster Mediums for Vettel!

[@pebbleman721]

@@Constantin314 Don't be a tool. He will be.

[@gamefan56]

@@Constantin314 So its Vettel´s fault now that his car let him down causing a VSC? Lol Vettel haters like you are so laughably pathetic.

[@matt_v_photo]

Even if Horner would have ordered him to give the position back to Mark, Seb would have ignored it anyway.

[@michaelcollins966]

Matt Jenssen , but he’s the team boss. If the driver disobeys the direct order, you have grounds to discipline him out of the car. By not making any definitive call during the race, Horner was implicitly endorsing Vettel’s actions.

[@Luke87Smith]

Just emphasizes that Christian has no balls

[@eviancl4157]

That's because Horner was more like a fanboy of vettel and now max

[@Sp4mMe]

@@michaelcollins966 And then what? Webber wasn't anywhere much that year. Alonso would have had a great chance to grab the title had Red Bull kicked out Vettel. Nobody's going to risk that. It's fundamental wisdom of leading people that you don't give orders that you know won't be obeyed and that you can't enforce. It doesn't show that somehow has "no balls", it merely shows that someone is thinking ahead - unlike what Ferrari did in Sochi.

[@nickjack2376]

@@eviancl4157 its so obvious. maybe he hates australians? i'll never understand how horner stated in DTS he wanted max to win Monaco 2018, even though the team owed ricciardo that race win

[@zekken_aep]

MGU - K : I'm about to end this man's whole career

[@suprashank]

lol i wish

[@mrmathh3680]

His mental strengh will do that for him....

[@Hitherto90]

Offer at least his Russian Grand Prix.

[@sam-nariman6236]

He will FU all haters

[@shimeih2287]

Well, the U helps because MGK failed to end the other man's career 😂😂😂😂 he needs the U

[@LarmeMo]

If Mark is true here , that’s mean we are just à the beginning of another team mate battle at Ferrari

[@grannieannie1371]

Yep. I watched it the first time round. The difference right now, Ferrari won't tolerate it. That's why they left Seb out to dry on his tyres for so long. Horner let Vettel get away with whatever he wanted. Just as he is doing with Max. I doubt Ferrari will allow that from Seb. Especially as he hasn't earned any WDC's whilst he was with them. It's going to get interesting.

[@Nerdywr]

Leclerc is the future anw, Vettel had his chances with 2017 and 2018 and couldn’t clinch them with mistakes after mistakes. Ferrari knows this too

[@alexgherghiceanu2094]

@@coulthard2006 well he didn't so it's no point crying about it now

[@o0CASHBOY0o]

@@coulthard2006 i wouldn't say this 2019 car is designed around him. The low downforce setup suits more charles style of driving

[@cra_55]

Leclerc vs Vettel Winner: Hamilton

[@peterfighter]

Many great drivers had one similar feature - not driving in fully fair play way. Prost, Senna, Schumacher, Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel, Rosberg, Verstappen have made many questionable to say the least maneuvers.

[@samy29987]

@@Spinthatshitsleepy Glad to know that according to you Hamilton is untouchable and pure. The guy can do no wrong ans is sacred. lol Talk about fanboyism to the max.

[@lukeguilfoyle2425]

@@Spinthatshitsleepy that time when Hamilton went against his team by posting supposed telemetry on his Twitter account after the Belgian Grand Prix qualifying in 2012, or the time he was accused of dirty driving when he and Felipe Massa had collided during the 2011 Singapore Grand Prix, of which they'd already had numerous comings together throughout that 2011 season. Those are two examples that spring to mind.

[@erwinlommer197]

@@Spinthatshitsleepy Brake checking vettel in baku. He had done a similar thing earlier on his career and was penalized for it then. 2009 he lied to stewards and was caught. And all the 2007 stuff wasn't exactly fair and honorable either. Not to mention he pushed rosberg off the track every time he got the chance.

[@vivvysaur21]

@@Spinthatshitsleepy Errrm you remember Abu Dhabi 2016?

[@matt.163]

I'm no Ham fan but he is easily the cleanest.

[@PanzerFalcon2232]

"We were racing, I was faster, I overtook, I won" that was cold from Seb

[@ansharora6895]

Here after what Max did to Checo in brazilian gp 2022, hope this doesn't end their brotherhood

[@thefat_athlete]

a great man once said, "by being a racing driver means, you are racing with other people. We are competing to Win, and the main motivation to all of us is to Win"

[@quintin_rsa8701]

Him and Mansell were the last of the men.

[@fuckfirefox5114]

The problem is that Vettel basically ruled the team, so Webber didn't have chance but leave

[@Dani-it5sy]

Yes. And that's exactly why you shouldn't agree on something like this before the race. If you are a real man you say ''forget it'' before the race or you say ''ok'' and stick to the agreement. If you don't.. they have a word for that: backstabber .

[@quintin_rsa8701]

@@Dani-it5sy like lewis in Abu Dhabi 2016?

[@Showmetheevidence-]

That’s why team orders are such bullshit.

[@josephworkman7562]

Webber's motorsport legacy was being the 1st guy to figure out "The Stig" was Ben Collins.

[@zacktan1403]

i mean.... thats a pretty big deal

[@crowkid5553]

No his legacy is getting Australia back into the f1 spotlight, which gave us Daniel Riccardo and Oscar Piastri (the latter being Mark's manager)

[@_Zenyatta_Mondatta]

Vettel aged 100 years at Ferrari. Looked so young at RB

[@ib6606]

Well, he was in his 20ths and he left ferrari at 33

[@motogordo1903]

Absolutely love Webber. I wish we would have gotten a few more years from him.

[@omarashry007]

If Vettel wants to do something, he will do it. Leclerc will have to force his way through him, hypothetically and literally speaking.

[@joepantely6432]

Do not give Leclerc that challenge he will take it and Vettel' will lose!

[@Pacify]

Joe Pantely he can barely race with max Lmao without crying everyone gives this kid too much credit he’s beating a damaged Vettel lol

[@Stevethe11th]

D i м a at least he doesn’t spin by himself during the race. i.e. Bahrain and monza.

[@Pacify]

Stevethe11th Again this is a shit for nothing Vettel who he’s barely ahead of in the points lol so what’s that prove?

[@maurizioarrivabene8182]

For everyone that STILL doesnt realize...the ferrari of this and last year doesnt suit his driving style. But you kids probably dont even know his driving style...

[@RickyPro888]

This is like what happened to Ricciardo with Verstappen being favoured despite worse results... damn, the Aussies constantly get screwed

[@dylanzrim1011]

RickyPro just like how south Australians get snubbed from international duties in cricket.

[@grimm6jack]

Vettel was actually better than Webber though... Ricciardo is better than Max, in fact, I'd say one of the best of the current grid... But being in subpar cars really kills him. 8 DNFs in 2018... no wonder Max looked better than him, but he isn't...

[@Ronline26]

@@grimm6jack did you see 2017 when it was the other way around?

[@danielstark7239]

verstapens results wernt worse at all he had alot of car issues

[@danielstark7239]

@@grimm6jack max is better then ricardo max is 22 and has 8 wins

[@Elfwald]

Seems anything Hamilton does is ignored by the British F1 media while every minor indiscretion by other drivers is jumped on, analysed and frowned upon. No wonder Senna hated them, imagine it was the same with Mansell.

[@JTeam45]

You got it. Glad I'm not the only one who notices how they treat Vettel like trash. They've called Hamilton "God" before, but when Seb won Singapore this year they were all sour about it.

[@AugustusCaesar88]

It’s ridiculous, it’s as though they forget the rest of the world is watching. And for all the Brits who say “well don’t watch a British broadcaster then” most of us don’t have an option it’s Sky or nothing. So it’s fine for a British person to say that but it sucks for the rest of us. If they want to be bias to Britain then fine, but they shouldn’t have control on the broadcast for the 100+ other countries who watch it.

[@owenburton]

I think im one of the few brits who prefer seb to lewis

[@hudsonhudz7926]

No wonder they don't make a video on "is bottas's sacrifice that necessary for lewis to win a championship" :/

[@GlowingHorror]

@@hudsonhudz7926 Bottas has lost all respect from me after Russia. He had all the oppurtunity to fight Lewis at the safety car restart, to still put pressure on the championship, but he just held Leclerc up the entire race. Such a terrible race lol.

[@ratandeeparunkumar4539]

Who's here after Max and Checo Brazil race?

[@ouruhuru]

I effing miss Aussie Grit.

[@mrdraw2087]

Vettel disobeyed the multi-21 team orders because of Brazil 2012, when he not only had to fight both Ferraris, but also Webber, who pulled off a crazy move at one of the restarts. In fact, the only reason he was behind Webber in Malaysia was a too early switch to slick tires, after which Vettel was repeatedly undercut by Hamilton until the Mercedes driver had to back off to save fuel. In clear air Vettel was clearly faster than Webber, but due to the time lost behind Hamilton it took him the entire race to catch up again. As much as I'd love to see Webber win, he didn't really deserve it.

[@pillarsofstrength9568]

Finally someone with knowledge on F1

[@williamwade7059]

Wow, thanks for the insight, this is excellent information. I've only been a fan since the Netflix series.

[@alvarakesh]

Mark was told to turn off... U missed that part...

[@formulajuan5762]

Yes exactly. Webber also proved for the entire season that he didn't deserve that win, by not winning a single race in a season where his team mate won 13

[@drybones7475]

If Webber blocked Massa and Alonso instead of Vettel, nothing would have happened. There was also Great Britain 2011.

[@Natan0393]

At Seb's mind on both cases "I am disobeying team orders. But nothing could go wrong, I am first, I am faster, I will win the race" Ferrari: hold my beer.

[@formula31]

Ferrari 1 hour later: oops lewis won!

[@Sparrowash97]

*Hold my MGU-K*

[@christhrower8427]

@@Sparrowash97 😂😂

[@mattcecil6692]

Seb was faster than the overrated Leclerc in Russia.

[@christhrower8427]

@@mattcecil6692 What makes you say he's overrated? Imo he'd outclass everyone in that feild given equal equipment. GP2? He and Hamilton are the 2 people in recent years who dominated and created historical comebacks in the lower formula. I'm a life long 22 year Mclaren fan, I f******g hate to see Ferarri ahead of us but boy that Leclerc is some tallent!

[@Hells_Gift_MB]

The background music really added to the feeling of drama.

[@zmalik8593]

Honestly I can understand where Vettel is coming from. Your teammatei is a rival, but in the closing stages of the season, your teammate is the last person to prevent you and your team from winning the world title.

[@christiangrey5061]

Deja vu on the race on yesterday Brazil gp

[@adibz959]

Imagine Autosport condeming Lewis Hamilton. Just imagine.

[@dct1]

Na, easier for them to pick on Seb.

[@bilbobeuli]

For what? What did Lewis do in the past 5 years?

[@TheUrbanEpicure]

They're Brits, what do you expect? Pathetic nationalist has-beens.

[@BladeRunner031]

@@bilbobeuli Nothing,that is problem for fanboys

[@DaveDoc1984]

@@bilbobeuli Abu Dhabi 2016.... deliberately backing Rosberg up despite being told by Paddy Lowe to pick up his pace.... overly aggressive starts where he hits his team-mate off the circuit (Texas 2015, Canada 2016).... my list could go on!

[@jorgenpinoy1724]

No orders befor the race, going hard and race for the first place🏁🏁🏁

[@alvinchan7746]

in b4 rosberg hamilton scenario happens again...

[@lorenzobailey_mancity_prot9170]

Do you guys at Autosport have an issue with Seb?

[@Twin540i]

Yup. No mention of Hungary 14 or Abu Dhabi 16 with king Lewis with regard to disobey team orders. Lewis disobey team orders is fine, but Sebastian isn't given the free pass by the heavily bias autosport

[@Wishwader]

When Vettel keeps blundering, ignoring his team, and being disrespectful to F1 management, his team and his teammate, it's hard to ignore all that and not report on it. Vettel even managed to crash into the side of Webber on a straight while Webber was driving in a dead straight line, and then got out the car and have “idiot” single finger gestures at Webber. But hey let's bush over Vettel's long history of petulance and deflect this onto Lewis. We get it, you don't like Lewis, but not every news story must be about Lewis. This one is about Vettel.

[@lorenzobailey_mancity_prot9170]

@@Wishwader What about all the team orders Lewis ignored throughout his career but Autosport is never ginne talk about that. You make it seem Lewis is all innocent and never had controversial moments! Remember "Lie gate" ? Crashing into Nico? Ignoring team orders?

[@BenKill]

Yes, they clearly have. Every video is against Seb, they rarely to never applaude him. I don't know why though and I'd like to get an answer from them.

[@Twin540i]

@@Wishwader have you seen autosport coverage of Formula Lewis, it's every cover.

[@shehrantafhim5070]

The team always comes first but sometimes you need that bit of arrogance to win a championship. That's why Hamilton & Vettel are champions and Webber & Bottas isn't.

[@vikasbandalli5585]

Couldn't have put it better,👍

[@taliamason7986]

Bottas just straight out lacks the consistency even without abiding team orders.

[@TheBrass18]

Bottas is a quick driver, but is just too obedient to win a Championship. When “James “ comes on the radio, and tells him an order, he immediately obey. He should at least question the call. Why is the order is given? What is point of the order? As drivers, you are basically contract workers for the team. You are necessarily not part of it. So sometimes you got to think for yourself. That Singapore msg, any self respecting driver would question the call.

[@bilbobeuli]

Bottas and Webber aren’t champions because they weren’t quick enough. This has nothing to do with arrogance.

[@taliamason7986]

@@bilbobeuli Wrong. Webber was 100% Champion material back in 2010 but his team screwed him over deliberately so Vettel could take Lewis Hamilton's record at the time of becoming the youngest World Champion in the history of the sport.

[@asrafulemon2004]

I'm here after Brazil 2022 drama

[@HasBeensNAddicts]

I've only been watching F1 for a year so I really enjoyed this. Can you guys cover more historic stories like this?

[@TheRacerX]

Multi 21 Max??

[@im_Smitty]

Don't make deals before the race if you're going to break them easy as that

[@dongulio5539]

Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen it’s racing, you improvise, such a fast sport needs fast decisions, and sometimes decisions pre race don’t always go through as planned, he’s not the first to do this, and definitely won’t be the last

[@im_Smitty]

@@dongulio5539 Thats my point, don't make any agreements

[@mrmathh3680]

@@dongulio5539 would you be telling me the same thing if the situation was reversed? No...

[@dongulio5539]

Mr Mathh what do you mean? Reversed in the sense that if Leclerc did it?

[@mafiousbj]

Leclerc has learned that deals are done to be broken. It has happened in the past to other drivers. No longer will he give space to Vettel on track

[@OPgiSh0tzonYT]

0:37 Dr. Friedlander from GTA V.

[@adityatyagi464]

lmao

[@airsofter2247]

Im with Seb, they are both racers and both want the win; and once he had passed Mark couldnt keep up

[@isaiahhammerand395]

The problem with that is that the team gave Vettel the favorable pit stop window to avoid Hamilton which allowed Seb to catch Webber

[@matt.163]

@@isaiahhammerand395 exactly, webber was hamstrung, it wasn't cool

[@varunsambi2004]

The situation hasn’t changed. There is still a driver prioritised at redbull. That team never changes. They make amazing car. But it’s a one driver team.

[@starcrafter9672]

Not really surprising when Max is the only one to turn the Red Bull into a winning car

[@norbertjanssen814]

Unlike Mercedes and Ferrari? Schumacher? Hamilton? Ferrari claiming Vettel was the first driver at the beginning of the season. Ordering Leclerc to let him by at the most stupid moments. Now in Russia letting Vettel stay out for four laps just to let him get behind Leclerc. Remember Bottas the last couple of years. How many times has he been orderd not to attack Hamilton or to let him by. The strange rule he explained at Singapore where he needed to slow down for Hamilton. Hamilton has always been the first driver since Rosberg left. At least when Ricciardo and Verstappen were teammates they let them race. Unlike Mercedes and Ferrari where they never let them race. Albon and Gasly just arn't good enough. People claiming they get a worse car then Verstappen because Redbull want him to look good are just plain stupid. They want to finish top in the constructors more than making Verstappen world champion. The money comes from the constructors.

[@Mobi666]

I agree, but I do believe that a team needs to have a #1 and #2 driver... I don't see how a team can have equal drivers... Just look at the history... whenever a team tried to treat both drivers equally, the result is that the drivers start fighting between them, which is exactly what a team does not want. The team wants the #2 driver to help the #1 driver, just like we see in MErcedes whenever Ham is P1 and Bottas is P2, they will use Bottas as a buffer to block Ferrari & Red Bull. I know it's not fair, and I personally want to see both drivers treated equally, but in reality this is not what happens, despite what the 3 big teams say in front of the cameras. This is also proven by the fact that Ham wanted to keep Bottas for next year. Ham knows he's faster than Bottas, so Ham is the #1 driver, and Bottas is able to help him with Ferrari & Red Bull.

[@johndawhale3197]

Prime Sebastian and current Verstappen are leaps and bounds above anyone on the current grid...if Max was in Bottas' Merc he would undoubtedly be dominating the championship.

[@jsquared1013]

@@johndawhale3197 prime Sebastian is not much different from current Sebastian. He won his championships with Red Bull because he was able to adapt to the blown diffuser driving style very well, plus he was good on cold tires (and still is). He could qualify at the front, jump out of DRS range while the tires were still warming up, then just manage it till the end. Even under the Red Bull dominant years there were signs of his inability to cope with pressure. The way he reacted to Danny coming to Red Bull, and the subsequent very noticeable mistakes at Ferrari in the years since just strengthen this hypothesis.

[@emma-janeodriscoll2885]

The KZbin algorithm being on point with this on the front page now is amazing timing

[@ocelotrevs]

Both times he was playing under the rules which the other driver played with. There was some shadiness in Monza with Leclerc not helping Vettel. There was shadiness from Webber before Multi 21.

[@craiggallagher4461]

No shadiness from LeClerc at Monza, rewatch the footage - he gets boxed in by Seb after being caught up in the outlap Hulk/Sainz silliness and then because of the time left in Q3 they all sprint for the line. Yet LeClerc is on Sebs ass a lot of the way and passes him before the last corner to give Seb a tow for the actual timed lap but it's to late for everyone bar Sainz at this stage: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYmqhX-gZ8iqadk

[@tjthegreat7]

@@craiggallagher4461 you blind? that was shady af

[@craiggallagher4461]

@@tjthegreat7 you obviously watched a different race to me. I saw LeClerc held up by other drivers including Seb who passed LeClerc instead of staying behind. Then they all sprinted for the finish line by which time LeClerc was in position in front to give the tow for the ACTUAL lap that would have counted if Q3 hadn't finished before they crossed the line. The fact LeClerc was IN FRONT for the TIMED LAP and not the OUT LAP discounts anyone saying he purposely avoided giving Seb the tow.

[@napsterbg]

@@craiggallagher4461 Leclerc had the whole out lap to get ahead. No one wanted to go ahead until last few corners. It was his turn to give a tow to Vettel. Seb's time without the tow was still very good, who knows what could have happened if he did hist faster Q3 lap. So in a way, Charles owed Vettel.

[@craiggallagher4461]

@@napsterbg I understood at the time that Charles was meant to return the favour after Vettel gave him the tow and I believe he fully intended on doing so. As I described from what is seen in the footage, Charles is boxed in by his own team mate after corner 2 when the Q3 shenanigans began and what happens between there and the final corner (when they're all sprinting to complete the lap so they can have a timed lap afterwards) is debatable if there was one or more safe passing opportunities (keeping in mind them running out of time for Q3) but the fact Charles is in front of Seb in the perfect tow position as they crossed the line is plenty enough for me to show that Charles did indeed intend to give Seb the tow providing he could get back in front of him (it was Sebs decision after all to overtake Charles in the first place) for the ACTUAL timed lap and not the outlap that everyone is condemning Charles over, especially when the start of it was an utter clusterfuck.

[@metalgearsolidsnake6978]

i like the fight between Webber and Vettel, i prefer team mates fighting then teamorders!!! we want to se races and fights!

[@vladislaav]

Yeah, because you are not a team principal. Team principal wants to have their cars reach the finish line not ended up in the gravel in turn one.

[@samlowry9521]

Exactly, fuck team orders. We want fights

[@hannesgroesslinger]

Yes, we want fights. But only when the fights are fair. Multi21 wasn't. Vettel had confirmed to the team that he would stay behind Webber. Then both drivers were told to turn down engine modes, gearbox settings, etc. to preserve the car, after all the same components needed to be used in the next race in Bahrain as well, so there was no point in putting extra stress on them. Webber complied with everything he was told and was running with about 70bhp less than normal. Thats the only reason Vettel even cought up to him. Webber did not expect an attack from Vettel since he knew Vettel had confirmed to stay behind. When Vettel attacked anyway Webber was completely defenseless. We all want to see teammates fight. If Vettel wanted to win that race he should have said that, instead of telling the team he is OK with second. But with eaqual weapons he had no chance that day, so he made this deceitful play.

[@samlowry9521]

@@hannesgroesslinger Who cares about Multi21 and other ridiculous team orders, we are fans, we want fights. We are not team principals!

[@matt.163]

it was truly epic!

[@daninagy4173]

I've never seen a more miserable podium than that in a while. Also, look at how young Seb looked becked then! Ferrari sure had a toll on him. Ferrari fan here btw, I really hope the same doesn't happen to Charles and Carlos.

[@Coyote_77]

The Monégasque driver losing control while leading was obviously NOT a good look. Oh and Niki Lauda's 1974 car

[@nickjack2376]

Horner and Helmut's complete bias and favouritism towards Seb was obvious from the get go. Their reaction after Turkey 2010 said it all. Webber never stood a chance in hell of getting the same treatment yet still only finished 14 points behind Seb that fist season.

[@TMJ32]

Pattern repeated with Verstappen/Ricciardo.

[@111BR]

It still pisses me off knowing that Mark would have won the 2010 championship for certain if the team gave him full backing in the final quarter of the season... when he was well ahead of Vettel and on the way to winning the Championship. But they still gave Vettel preference even though he was behind points

[@manmonkee]

@@111BR and if Mark hadn't broken his collar bone cycling and his performance tailed off because of the pain.

[@deanbilton]

@@111BR and it's so much harder for an Aussie to achieve a F1 start let alone a championship. The opportunities just aren't the same as Europe.

[@ssiipp7848]

@@111BR Mark made a mistake and crashed in Korea. That wasn't the teams fault was it? He did have full backing as he was actually the lead driver for most 9f 2010. In Abu Dhabi he and Alonso, the other main rival for the title were on the same strategy, the strategy they thought was the best one.... Mark had backing but just missed out while Vettel didn't. Those are the facts.

[@Moxyy5]

Anyone remember Silverstone 2011 ? Where Webber did the same thing to Seb... Webber was to told to stay behind and he didn't. Stop complaining about Seb's bad behaviour, many former world champs has done much worse than that...

[@SiVlog1989]

This is the reason why I had a problem with how Vettel carried himself during that controversy. Although, Webber naturally was disappointed (at best) that Vettel did what he did by ignoring the team, the worst thing for me was his about face attitude about it. Apologising publicly to Webber after the race, only to say effectively that given the opportunity, he would do it again. It's one thing to do things on track that racing drivers do sometimes, race their team mate against instructions, but it's another matter to apologise and then do an about face shortly thereafter. No wonder Webber was considering the knuckle sandwich approach afterwards

[@RunningOn7CylindersYT]

If Webber and Vettel didn't have such a heated rivalry I think he could've done another year or two in F1

[@chrishavill6458]

If red bull hadn't heavily favoured vettel, and given him a better car

[@iRaps1]

Chris Havill if Webber was the better driver of the two

[@drybones7475]

You forget that there were new regulations coming, and it was predictable that the Red Bull car was not going to be as good for 2014.

[@fisnikramadani4147]

We need this "dark" Seb back. This is what makes a driver a champion- the ultimate goal to win

[@raphael3873]

well he’s currently getting good results. P5 in monaco and P2 in azerbaijan. So hopefully we get to see more of og seb back.

[@BruceWayne-fc9kv]

But, at this time,the #1 driver is boss's son. Stroll has the ball

[@fisnikramadani4147]

@@BruceWayne-fc9kv even Lance knows he is to support Sebastian

[@drdoolittle5724]

As a farmer we never knowingly put two bulls/rams/boars/male chickens together without very careful management and I mean, MANAGEMENT. Enough said?

[@01AceAlpha]

One way or another one will get slaughtered!

[@deanbilton]

What about if the bulls are red?

[@alimanski7941]

You don't get to be a formula 1 driver, let alone championship contender, without having the correct attitude and character. You can't avoid having two "bulls" in any F1 team.

[@lukavujeva6584]

Well, Briatore ordered Webber to support Alonso in Interlagos 2012, so it was a payback. It's not a secret that Alonso and Weber are friends and their connections with Flavio are well known. I would love if Alonso has won 2012, but I can understand multi 21, I would do the same everyone would.

[@AUSRashman]

I'm genuinely curious, are there any articles about Briatore ordering Webber to assist Alonso?

[@danielstark7239]

briatore great manager that hiss driver didnt want to race for his team hmm webber turned renault down when flav was boss says alot

[@jonathanbudhoo2113]

Screw team orders, Let em go at it. Entertain us Damnit!

[@satyamsavaran]

Autosport Vs Vettel?? Yeah!😂😂😂

[@Dean0017]

No, it's just Vettel has a long history of being a dick.

[@fuckfirefox5114]

@@Dean0017 Truer words were never said

[@boston9851]

Teknotion yeah like Hamilton with the Trulli incident

[@diogonunes1865]

@@Teknotion wtf? Where's the cheating? And if I recall correctly it was meclaren-Mercedes and Lewis that made the biggest scandal in f1, that being when meclaren-Mercedes spied Ferrari to get to know the inners of the Ferrari car.

[@Teknotion]

@@boston9851 That was staged? Haha! Well fuck. All that telemetry data and the actual fucking car cam of Trulli's ride was lying to us all, man! Right on.

[@apocalypsenow7136]

Lewis wasn’t happy because of the team orders between him and Nico, he thought that It was not fair towards Nico... After the race he actually said that he would try to give back change towards Nico later in the season how things changed so fast a year later haha

[@Jojo_Bee]

Nice background music. LoL! Its like documentary for talking about a criminal or something.

[@joe5boost]

good to see 6 years later your still not over this autosport , how about something a bit more current ? things like this go on every race !!

[@2_Sec_C]

Joe Tee shut it!

[@TheJokerit19]

I'm here today for the 10th anniversary.

[@rotorairgroup8409]

Leclerc's agent is Nicolas Todt. That is why Leclerc feels like the team owes him something and that he has to win every race without any resistance. They want to make him the new Schumacher but he is not fast enough for it to be close to reality. That is why they penalized Vettel in Canada and why he was not allowed to get out to Q3S in France, Austria and Germany. I am surprised that people don't know about this so I am sharing the information as much as I can.

[@pranavrathore1703]

Max=lewis>Leclerc>>>>>>>>>>>vettel

[@quigglyz]

I love when they disobey team orders, even if it's the team I'm rooting for. I want racers to RACE. All the time. At every corner. Forever.

[@raffa4456]

If it was Mercedes back then, Seb would have just been the Number 1 driver like Lewis now and Webber his Bottas. But Red Bull still tried to be the nice guys. Today this wouldn't happen anymore. Clear number ones and twos are established and that's it. Both ways have advantages but also disadvantages. I thought entertainment back then was better. Whoever was faster won the race. No Bottas/Ham switch in Singapore or Sochi last year.

[@alexgherghiceanu2094]

You are kind of unfair .In the start i think they were equal,but once ham started running away with it they started to prioritize him

[@raffa4456]

@@alexgherghiceanu2094 You mean the first three races Bottas ever drove for Mercedes?

[@raffa4456]

@@alexgherghiceanu2094 There is no need to prioritize anyone in the situation they are in. Lewis already won. Back then, when Vettel overtook Mark, Red Bull almost never prioritized him although he was always their better chance at winning the championship after he did it in 2010.

[@Digojaim]

There was team orders on the mercedes side in the same race as multi 21.

[@bobitin368]

''that silence on the track before something happens'' and the legend lives on ;)

[@ashclub1]

WOW! You guys are have set the bar pretty high, vis a vis this video, that its not only thrilling to watch but it also gives the big TV stations a run for its money. Awesome JOb

[@SelfRaisingWheat]

The fact that things like this happened tells a lot about both drivers and their maturity.

[@sam21462]

I think what it more shows is that you don't have to be an asshole to be a champion, but it helps.

[@cookiey1976]

Not really. It shows who are the real racers

[@gainstage4497]

I’m tired of hearing about team orders, principals and politics. Green light it’s a race, I’m a fan.

[@mnz9214]

Exactly! Just race dammit.

[@matt.163]

@@mnz9214 tell that to webber when he is told to lower his modes and mange things

[@dcnumber9]

I still want to know who red bull blamed for the 2010 Turkish incident

[@DaveDoc1984]

Vettel for me. He moves over on Webber before the overtake was fully complete.

[@dcnumber9]

@@DaveDoc1984 oh yeah 100% agree...but i want to know what red bull think

[@fuckfirefox5114]

The accident was caused by both of them not allowing each other to go through, they were to hard on themselves. And Webber basically lost his number 1 status at Red Bull

[@michalsik5888]

Horner was neutral after the race: “It looks as though he didn't leave Sebastian enough space. It was very clear he (Vettel) was by his side and in front. But I still have to speak with both of them.” Marko blamed Webber: “Webber was slower and Vettel had immense pressure from Hamilton. Unfortunately, Mark was not told about the situation accurately by his race engineer. He had radioed the pits to say he was slower on the straights (than Vettel). He knew the situation and had just been informed about the pressure Hamilton was putting on (Vettel). Vettel was so much faster than he had to pass. If Webber and he had braked together, then Hamilton would have passed Vettel.” And he adde to the collision itself: Sebastian was ahead already and there was a corner coming so he has to go on his line." Is that what you truly wanted to know? :D

[@alexjohnward]

@@dcnumber9 they supported vettel, they even had to close their website forum eventually because of the flack

[@3800TURBO]

I miss Marks chats before and after the race. I remember his pass on Alonso at Spa. Sent shivers down my spine. I think Seb is going to find out the hard way that Ferrari don't mind loosing to teach someone a lesson. Charles needs to stop sooking on the radio and just do what he does best. Drive.

[@AhmedYehias]

Damn! Didn’t think that Seb is a pain for the likes of Autosport! Such a shame!

[@jarofflies1]

Surely Seb is becoming a pain for Ferrari, due to his high profile mistakes over the last 3 years on track. He also has proven to be a terrible team player.

[@Teknotion]

@@jarofflies1 And a rather mediocre driver considering he has 4 championship wins to his name.

[@boston9851]

Francisco Requena three years? He was very good in 2017

[@JJR_77]

You say such a shame, but if you follow team orders and do not fight for positions your going to get nowhere, it’s racing ffs just giving a position away for free is pointless

[@deloreanflashback4991]

@@JJR_77 very underrated comment

[@NHR_Music]

As much as I love the new cars. I wish that they would return to the smaller car size of pre 2017.

[@mattf4u-496]

Not gonna lie,I didn’t like most of the early hybrids in shape

[@NHR_Music]

@@mattf4u-496 Yeah the 2014/15 cars especially weren't all that great apart from maybe the Mercedes, Red Bull and Ferrari. I love the look of the cars pre 2014 the most in terms of the smaller cars. To each their own tastes : )

[@mattf4u-496]

NickTheGuitarPlayer I do indeed like the cars pre 2014. But only a select few between 2014 and 2016

[@twist3dgUt4219]

Its a common thing to be selfish when in the car, when you think about all the greats, starting from Prost, Senna, Schumacher to alonso, hamilton, Verstappen

[@edwardlack2578]

'hit by Bruno Senna', you mean Senna had his car half way down the inside and Seb turned into him.

[@legosupremo]

Seb won 13 races that season, 9 in a row. He won 4 championships in a row. Would Ferrari have asked Schumacher to stay behind Reubens? Seb passed him fair and square in an great battle. The media lept at seb for it, loving an excuse to make him the villain.

[@formulajuan5762]

Yeah I was confused by that at the time. The F1 media was desperate to paint Vettel as the bad guy, despite it looking a lot more like Webber being a sour second rate loser in that team. I mean, how can he sit there with a straight face and act like he deserved this race win, when he didn't win a single race that season, even though the car was clearly a ripper, as you say winning 13 races and the title in Vettel's hands. Webber couldn't even manage to finish right behind Vettel in any of their 5 seasons together at Red Bull. His best championship finish was 3rd, despite his team mate taking 4 consecutive titles and breaking a whole bunch of records.

[@TheBrass18]

We all know, why Seb did what he did. Seb is a team player whether you like or not. He is never bigger than the team, and he knows that. But regarding Malaysia 2013, he wanted pay back for Brazil 2012, when webbed unnecessarily pushed him to the pit wall in that race and costed him many positions, all confirmed by Horner himself in the F1 podcast. He did one selfish thing in his whole career, bar China 2014, when he reluctantly gave away to Ricardo.

[@mitchh3879]

What are you smoking?

[@michelecozzarin]

Bullshit, he's the exact same opposite of what you said. He's a good team player when he has no other chance, like he did at Spa this year, but when there's even the slightest chance of winning, he's the most unsportsman-like and bratty man who's ever driven an F1 car

[@jarofflies1]

Ricciardo unmasked Vettel as a fraud that season just as Leclerc is doing this one

[@TheBrass18]

Michele Cozzarin exactly, you really think racing driver do what they do to come second? Lol name one racing driver who isn’t a multiple World champion who wouldn’t do the same. You really think, guys like alonso, senna, Michael, Hamilton, Vettel would roll over when they have a chance to win. At the end of the day, the team is first, but there is chance to win, you will take it.

[@dennis526]

If you are part of the team order that benefits from the plan, you should obey that order, especially if your teammate has worked together to achieve that results. That should apply if there is no clear number 1/2 driver in the team

[@afradhahamed5181]

I know im probably being a fanboy here, but autosport doesn't make videos about hungary 2014

[@stooby267]

No one ever achieved greatness by playing it safe.

[@jsquared1013]

There is a massive difference between "playing it safe" and being a scheming backstabbing turd

[@themaincheese5897]

@@jsquared1013 meh he went on to win the title by a small margin it was necessary

[@drbladerz5530]

@@themaincheese5897 Yeah, just a small margin, only 155 points from Alonso, the runner up driver. You meant small margin from Mercedes, the runner up constructor? Yeah I'd say 37 points is pretty close

[@mitchh3879]

If it were Ross Brawn in Horner's position, Vettel would have done exactly what he was told. If a driver comes thru a team with no boundaries or discipline, Vettel is the outcome.

[@takeachillpill640]

@Parallax and life would be boring

[@clayestes4640]

What a 4 time champion?

[@SvDKILLSWITCH]

It could be argued that better leadership from the team would have stamped out issues such as Multi 21 at Malaysia 2013 and the fight for the title at Interlagos 2012. You could almost say the issues really came to the forefront during Istanbul 2010 - the fact that Horner seemingly wasn't in control of his drivers three years later should have been rightfully concerning. Ferrari risk the same issues now if they continue to allow Leclerc and Vettel to butt heads on and off track. There's not really a clear cut right or wrong in my mind, in either the Red Bull Vettel vs Webber situations or the Ferrari Vettel vs Leclerc situation unfolding now - I think Webber was justified in trying to force his case when the team clearly started to favour Vettel, but at the same time it was his decision to continue with Red Bull all those years.

[@Elfwald]

You can tell by the way he invited Autosport over to his house for afternoon tea and scones to specially discuss this that, after 7 years, Webber is completely over Multi 21.

[@ericdejesus6942]

“If there’s a gap and you no longer go for it, you are no longer racing” -some remotely well known driver😏

[@mattgourgoville8088]

Ah yes, Bruno Senna’s famous quote

[@sultanabran1]

this is coming from a driver who crashed out of the lead of a monaco race cause alain prost was lapping faster than him, even though he had a massive lead that prost couldn't have closed

[@ruptured1701]

sultanabran1 are you actually doubting Senna and his ability?

[@Wishwader]

Mc_Challenged - He has a point. If Senna was really as great as Lewis makes out then Senna wouldn't have crashed out of races under zero pressure and wouldnt needed to have deliberately crashed into other drivers to secure a championship.

[@arrgghh1555]

Probably the most miss represented quote in sporting history. It was nothing but a attempt to justify his actions of intentionally taking out another driver. There is no sincerity or belief behind those words, just political motive to try and avoid punishment.

[@JTeam45]

Or... You could let racers race and stop manufacturing race results with stupid team orders. It makes everything feel fake and Seb doesn't believe in that. He wants to win, let him instead of trying to make the media happy.

[@Joe.D.Sheppard]

Horner was nowhere near stern enough over the radio during that GP.

[@Bugsygb1]

Super happy when Charles pushed Seb out of Ferrari without being a scumbag

[@JohnPaul-qx8fd]

Charles had nothing to do with vettel's departure lol, Vettel got punted out by Elkan because they had beef.

[@deanbilton]

They're also different countrymen. An Aussie is a team player, respectful of the mateship bond and working as a team. Vettel is, well, German.

[@EISKALT5000]

The Multi 21 attitude of seb is what hes is missing for the last 3 years imo.

[@roaming_ren3972]

Exactly!

[@ianp3112]

You've GOT to have the car first! 2020 will be a classic! Cheers

[@Chuckiele]

@@ianp3112 aged like milk

[@MalteFS]

This is Weber’s opinion. Now let’s hear Sebastian’s. ....

[@michalsik5888]

True, we're always listening to Webber's version like in his book. We probably have to wait yet some years for Seb's true version off all this stuff like Turkey 2010, GB 2010, Multi 21 and so on...

[@AttilatheThrilla]

Wont hear it while he’s still driving in F1

[@ryanpaton2086]

You wont hear it ever. You think someone that arrogant is going to talk to you?

[@dustinpohl2483]

@@ryanpaton2086 hater... u clearly have no clue about Seb

[@LeeFall]

How was Briatore allowed to be involved with Webber when he is banished from F1?

[@SkeeterMcTavish]

You gotta realize, A Hamilton or Schumacher would have done the same thing. All the team boss stuff is just trash talk chirps.

[@danielstark7239]

schumacher has given wins to team mates :)

[@vasishtvasudevan4059]

@@danielstark7239 and gotten more wins from teammates as well 😂

[@ajunta2270]

Except Hamilton did give Bottas his position back in Hungary 2018, even though Bottas' chances at the title were slim by that time. Schumacher I don't know. Schumacher listened to Brawn.

[@dhruvsinghpal8737]

according to me, from past events seb has done good for his team and for his own,he knows the situation of the race and act accordingly despite team orders. sometimes team orders prove to be loss for the team. ferrari shouuld knew he was faster than leclerc from the starting of race,he didnt need to give back the place mercedes was too close. last year in sochi,mercedes gave team orders as ferraris were way back. vettel did right in malaysia 2013 as he was faster than mark and mercedes was end of his tail. in brazil 2012,mark should let vettel go as there was no point for fighting for wdc as they already won constructors and vettel's important day. in turkey 2010,mark was struggling for grip and vettel was faster despite he was too young and hot headed. in 2014,vettel let go ricciardo ahead of him as he knew he was struggling with car's pace and obeyed the team order every time.

[@MrSniperfox29]

I love the Webber completely forgets at the 2011 British Grand Prix, he was the one who ignored team orders and attacked Vettel despite Red Bull telling him to hold station. Webbers excuse? He wanted to win! The only difference was Vettel succeeded and Webber failed.

[@poonarmy2855]

Slightly different, vettel was just slower he hadn't turned down his car

[@MrSniperfox29]

@@poonarmy2855 It was also a team order that Webber ignored. If you ignore team orders, don't complain when someone does it back to you.

[@poonarmy2855]

@@MrSniperfox29 Yes but difference being he hadnt turned down his car so they were both full racing. To say vettel was still racing when Webber had turned everything down is different, he wouldnt have been able to pass if he hadnt turned it down

[@MrSniperfox29]

@@poonarmy2855 And? A team order is a team order. if you disobey one, don't act like a child when someone does it back to you.

[@poonarmy2855]

@@MrSniperfox29 but Webber had no chance to defend his spot, vettel did as he didn't turn his car down. That's why webber couldn't pass. The point being which you cant seem to grasp is that the situations are different and if webber didn't turn the car down he wins the race despite team orders

[@runswithbears3517]

Introduce 1-way radios. No more instructions from the team. Just the driver letting them know when he wants to box and nothing more.

[@wittyjester]

I think they should actually introduce team-radio for the drivers to communicate with one another directly.

[@nalstudio_official]

4:06 Vettel trying to eat the earplug 😂

[@dustinpohl2483]

They're just fitting better if they are wet

[@Cris.S.]

@@dustinpohl2483 Both wrong. he's blowing on it to warm it up. It sucks to put cold earbuds in your ear.

[@calais027]

Shows that Horner has no balls. Marco calls the shots. Imagine what Marco would’ve done if the roles were reversed and Webber defied team orders

[@cornevangulik6166]

Malaysia would’ve been the last race of him in the season

[@roadrunner6224]

Was Mark a three time World Champion in 2013?

[@cornevangulik6166]

Peter Zwegert Still it depends what was agreed within the team, Valtteri got equal treatment at the beginning of the year so he could try and put up a title fight and he is driving in a team with a five time world champion, obviously now he doesn’t get equal treatment anymore because Lewis is almost champion again. But Malaysia was the second race of the 2013 campaign so it isn’t weird there were teamorders that didn’t favor Seb.

[@calais027]

Peter Zwegert , makes no difference. Team order is team order

[@Simon-kc4ml]

4:06 he really was about to eat an earpiece 😭😂

[@mzf11125]

2024: Norris vs Piastri

[@mihajlovucinic011]

Autosport is like the Sun of motorsport media.

[@teflonpete]

No one should tell racing driver not to race.

[@bilbobeuli]

Petri Pitkänen no driver should disobey team orders and think he’s above the team

[@ScottW_]

Well said

[@Homeland81]

There is a reason why more people like Lewis over vettel or even rosberg for that matter.sometimes you have to be more than a good driver leaving aside competitive driving. Remember lewis giving bottas the place, even when team orders favoured him over bottas.

[@Wishwader]

Indeed. Vettel would never have done that.

[@samlowry9521]

U mean British people? He refused to do the same thing for rosberg in 2014 by the way

[@jannik-x]

Ordering a driver to go any slower than they possibly can given the conditions of the track and the car is bad sportsmanship.

[@matt.163]

you do realise they gave webber go slow instructions that race?