MULTI ENGINE over SINGLE, why we went TWIN and chose the mighty Piper Seneca III PA-34-220T

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Family Pilot

Family Pilot

Күн бұрын

Rather be flying, but here are our thoughts on why we went to a Multi / Twin engine plane versus our single. Comfort and peace of mind are major aspects but so is the fit for our missions, getting higher, faster, and further in our twin helps us make those long cross countries, IFR in IMC trying hard to avoid ice but having protections incase we accumulate...
We really do enjoy putting flying trips together, here is a shot at one of them there talking videos ;) let us know your thoughts and we're happy to answer any questions too in the comments!
Happy skies,

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@johnashcroft120
@johnashcroft120 2 ай бұрын
I am a multi engine pilot and agree with your analysis; consider the overwhelming need to understand the plugoid - single engine speed - single engine control speed - stall speed must always emphasise the importance of this undisputed fact, the fact that keeps you alive. ref the recent Grumman fatality! Many hours means nothing practice and currency is everything, know your aircraft.
@alzlogar9497
@alzlogar9497 Жыл бұрын
I had a Seneca V and loved it! Great airplane, Strongly recommend all the Knots-2-U speed kits, which added significantly to performance. The JetProp headset O2 snap-on oxygen system is amazing-worth the $, and no masks or cannulas, and will work well with the kids. Congrats! All the best…
@robertottwell605
@robertottwell605 2 жыл бұрын
If I flew with a family I would definitely have a twin.
@jasontronerud4065
@jasontronerud4065 8 ай бұрын
Hello - your video really resonated with me! I'm a Cherokee 6 Pilot located in Minneapolis. I'm considering upgrade options and a Seneca recently made the list. Your video addressed several of my questions/concerns, which was great! Would love to talk with you sometime if you were open to it. Thanks! Jason
@RootBeerGMT
@RootBeerGMT 2 ай бұрын
Dude, flying a twin is a blast!
@christophergeorge6581
@christophergeorge6581 5 ай бұрын
To me twin verbs si gdle is a no brained, first AC a money had total engine enables failure on cross country at night was at 8000 ft and close to airport landed safely, this was my last single then moved on twin Camacho, several win senior 1 then 2 then 3 all great aircraft, last AC was a piper aerostear twin that climbs 1800 ft per minute, cruise up to 250 knt, climbs on one engine 500 ft per min, with range 1200 to 1400 miles, all together now retired from flying have close to 5000 hrs paid for all the feul, by way also glider pilot that helped with th engine e out .landing in Mooney, Christopher Ottawa canada
@AviatorJosh
@AviatorJosh Жыл бұрын
I am having a similar dilemma, my goal is to travel with my family. I think that a twin is the best bet when it comes to safety and useful load. Most likely a Seneca or an Aztec.
@waholoopesorry74
@waholoopesorry74 Жыл бұрын
A turbine engine is actually your best bet
@RootBeerGMT
@RootBeerGMT 2 ай бұрын
Lots of benefits-c310s and Barons have great payloads and great speeds.
@RootBeerGMT
@RootBeerGMT 2 ай бұрын
@@waholoopesorry74Too pricey by far for most
@jimmymills2482
@jimmymills2482 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a good looking plane, can’t wait to see more of it .😊 I’m thinking ur on the right track . 👍
@FamilyPilot
@FamilyPilot 2 жыл бұрын
We’re excited! Thanks Jimmy!
@pilotsalmanalkhaldi5649
@pilotsalmanalkhaldi5649 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the amazing video ☺️ I own a piper Seneca I love it
@jmann06
@jmann06 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Austin. Awesome video. I love twins, ever since the tailspin cartoon. Lol Hope to start flight training early next year. What’s that you say… you’ll take me up for a discovery flight. Lol jk
@MrShamus07
@MrShamus07 2 жыл бұрын
Here's an idea for when you're flying with oxygen. Kid co-pilot upfront with dad, wife in backseat with the other kid. One adult can have eyes on each kid at all times. Wife might not like that, but sometimes you've just gotta do what you've gotta do.
@waholoopesorry74
@waholoopesorry74 Жыл бұрын
Did you ever consider a turboprop like a Caravan, M350, TBM, etc.?
@RootBeerGMT
@RootBeerGMT 2 ай бұрын
Multi-is way more fun. Hundreds of hours in C55, 340 and some in a Duke! They are a blast and with the ladies, a “weapon of mass seduction”.
@billmoran3812
@billmoran3812 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent points.
@andrewhostetter8349
@andrewhostetter8349 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there! Just found your channel. I don't have kids or a turbo, but one thought that popped into my head - could you get some sort of rear-view mirror to make it easy to quickly glance into the back to make sure the kids still have the masks on?
@jamesmorris913
@jamesmorris913 5 ай бұрын
If I were rich enough to afford the upkeep that a twin requires (and, I never will be) I would get a Skymaster. Talk about SAFETY..it won't flip over and KILL you, in an engine-out scenario; as any conventional-twin can..no matter your level of skill, training, or lack thereof.
@dkbrowny
@dkbrowny 2 жыл бұрын
Duct tape! 🤣 JK. Maybe try having them wear it around the house. Make a game of it and give them a prize for who can wear it the longest. I don’t fly that high and have no experience with masks but I’m a dad of three and Sometimes you just have to bribe them. Lol.
@Jay-hr3rh
@Jay-hr3rh Жыл бұрын
If it's a turbine engine, I say single. I would still fly high and close.
@lutador13
@lutador13 2 жыл бұрын
Is the Seneca pressurized like the M350?
@shirlzitting647
@shirlzitting647 2 жыл бұрын
No, but oxygen masks not that big of a deal. Other twins do have pressurization, like the King Air (if you have a million bucks), or the Beech Baron 58P used (1976-1985). This is Seneca's closest competitor in twins. If pressurization is a must and you can't afford or don't want a twin, the most affordable and practical choice is the Cessna P210. As of spring 2004, used prices on these airplanes range from $176,000 for early models to $290,000 for a 1986 R-model.
@RootBeerGMT
@RootBeerGMT 2 ай бұрын
Nope!
@patcicerchi
@patcicerchi 2 жыл бұрын
Ever consider the Cirrus?
@shirlzitting647
@shirlzitting647 2 жыл бұрын
Are you cirrious? Can't pronounce both aoos (R's)?
@RootBeerGMT
@RootBeerGMT 2 ай бұрын
No, they are for non-binaries
@v1rotate391
@v1rotate391 2 жыл бұрын
Twins do you no good other than to “feel” good without a lot of practice and training in single engine ops. A twin will kill you faster and quicker than any of the aforementioned items in your video (vacuum, alternator, engine failure in a single)
@MrShamus07
@MrShamus07 Жыл бұрын
Sure, a twin can kill you if you're not qualified to fly it. That's the whole purpose of training. But, the same can be said about a single engine airplane. But, you fail to address the whole point of this video. Would you feel safer with your life at stake, and the lives of your wife and children, when flying at night, with unknown and unlit terrain beneath you, and then all of a sudden you lost one engine in a twin, or your only engine is a single?
@waholoopesorry74
@waholoopesorry74 Жыл бұрын
@@MrShamus07 To that I say, get a turboprop. Much more reliable than a piston and definitely safer than a twin piston
@RootBeerGMT
@RootBeerGMT 2 ай бұрын
You sound Ukrainian level ignorant. A twin gives you a lot of options. It’s a far safer ride over all.
@FeralPreacher
@FeralPreacher 2 жыл бұрын
I am trying to understand, or figure out, if you are seeking justification for a twin or bragging that you're Canadian. Your arguments lead in both directions, and I wonder if Subscribing to your channel is warranted. Jury is still out and I will wait and see.
@FamilyPilot
@FamilyPilot 2 жыл бұрын
Just sharing why we picked a twin over single. Canadian is about the missions. XC Texas to Canada and wherever else there’s snow for the kids. Thé défense reste your honor. :)
@shirlzitting647
@shirlzitting647 2 жыл бұрын
...and the pwosikution s(h)its dumbfounded.
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