Flying a 1994 M20J Mooney & 1975 Piper Seneca II in One Day

[@jhealan3751]

I would sit right seat next to my dad as kid flying in the 201 Mooney. He has always owned a Mooney, 201, 252 and now has a Bravo Mooney. I think he has some 7000 hours in Mooneys. They are great airplanes, the cabin is actually one inch wider than a Bonanza. Very efficient, great panel. Draw back is comfort for passengers (even though we would fly as a family of four from Florida to Minnesota every summer it can be done). Great memories.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Very cool - tanks for the message!

[@juansestorres6941]

X x h 😟 😊😊

[@75Seneca2]

Hey Rich - nice to see the Seneca on the channel. I’ve also got a 75 Seneca II and can attest it is a really stable platform to fly, super comfortable and very roomy. The numbers you were getting are pretty much what I get, maybe a couple of knots quicker as the de-ice boots add a touch of drag. Sure wish I had that panel though…just beautiful…about the only common avionics I have is the WAAS 430! You’re right about the club seating…it was an option in 75 (sadly not on mine) and isn’t too bad to upgrade with the STC. I love the twin redundancy when flying up north when airports aren’t that plentiful! If anyone is thinking of a twin or a real nice 6 seater you won’t go wrong with a Seneca….great value in my opinion. Cheers!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks - I was hoping a Seneca owner would give some insight!

[@gtr1952]

Mooney has been one of my fav's since I was very young. My fav Mooney story is when the French company acquired Mooney in the mid 1980's. Socata was looking for an airframe for a new project, and they liked the Mooney 301 that Mooney was working on, but not yet certified. Long story short, that turned into the TBM 700! They are made in Tarbes France, that's where the TB comes from, and "Mooney" is where the "M" comes from. TarBes Mooney, or TBM. Mooney never did go forward with the 301 that I know of, and I think China has their hand on Mooney now? Oh well 8( Thanks for the review Rich! --gary

[@jerrypalmer7130]

Lol

[@rodolfocastro3222]

Excellent video, thank you! Love the Mooney! I enjoy flying my 1979 M20J. The best airplane in its class.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks for watching!

[@brianb5594]

Great videos as always Rich! Love the Mooney but the Seneca is the sweet bird!!!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Agree. I haven’t flown a Seneca in a while - great airplane.

[@skyepilotte11]

Great video Rich...nice aircraft.

[@TIO540S1]

I have a lot of M20J and M20K time from decades ago. Really excellent airplanes!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks Rob. Didn’t know you had Mooney’s!

[@ramonluismedina4206]

Another great video and information! Thanks for sharing the ride! Blessings!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@billtisdale6122]

I completed my initial multi qualification in the Seneca II. I really enjoyed flying that twin.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Very nice flying airplane!

[@carlmclelland7624]

1. A Mooney is like a Porsche; you either love them or hate them. After seven Porsche's in my life, and many years in Mooney's, you really can't do much better with one fan. 2. I vote for - "RPM" (singular), even in a multi-engine plane. If those propellers are not synched, presumably at the same... RPM... you're going to have some very unhappy passengers listening to the... waa...waa...waa...waa. The Seneca is a great, stable, economical airplane. NOW... to be young again and have a Twin Comanche with Rayjay's............. The day my Ship Came In..., wouldn't you know it..., I was at the airport, flying! Great video, Rich!!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Couldn’t agree more. I’m trying to break the RPMs habit to RPM!

[@jomckarth4836]

always nice to accompany you. interesting the different aircraft you fly, very nice surrounding - have never been in california.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you. CA is a beautiful place!

[@elurb7231]

Im learning out of KLGB, eventually want to get an M20J in thr next year or two. Already on the hanger waiting list!

[@FlyingwithRich]

@@elurb7231 Great airport and airplane!

[@elurb7231]

@@FlyingwithRich yea once I get my PPL maybe I will reach out to your for some GA type certifications!

[@emeraviation]

Thx for another video Rich!!! but i prefer PA-34 Piper Seneca II I made my MEP on the same plane PA-34 so it's a very nice plane....😊😊😊

[@TheSolimansInTheSky]

Love that Seneca! Great video!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Me too!

[@fanoflawrencedrunkpreachin834]

I really enjoy watching your flying videos!! One day! That’s all I can say, one day that’ll be me flying!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Make it happen. You won’t regret it!

[@fanoflawrencedrunkpreachin834]

@@FlyingwithRich Yes Sir, I’m definitely working on it. I just took a 2nd job to pay for my classes. Thanks again for posting.

[@williamkennedy2069]

LOL RPMz, also, is the size of the interior of this cabin the same as the Cherokee 6? Nice flight

[@FlyingwithRich]

Yes I think the same fuselage and cabin - thanks for watching!

[@Luke_StClair]

Great job as always…beautiful airplanes

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@Parr4theCourse]

Got my retractable/complex endorsement in a Mooney…. Slippery little planes!!!

[@enricodigenova8112]

2 nice planes mate great video 👍👍

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@AJtex713]

10 gallons per side@ 6500ft on the seneca seems pretty low, no?trained on one, was closer to 15. Awesome videos just subscribed

[@RonVF]

Very nice panels and avionics in both aircraft!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks for watching!

[@v1rotate391]

2…2.2..2..2 Greased it!

[@egreens8512]

Ah the Mooneys they were central to my GA experience in the 90's renting from KUDD fly club, such kewl adventures productive, profitable , fun flying out to Camarillo , Goleta, returning over Long Beach to KUDD. $65/hr wet :) blessings OCR crew .

[@FlyingwithRich]

Always loved the Mooney’s! Thanks for watching!

[@jeffr6280]

I think the proper phraseology on twin is rpm&m's.

[@ruslanulko8195]

I got my multi engine rating in Seneca 1 Very stable plane

[@louissanderson719]

Nice one 👍

[@romeobravo5084]

Rich, I'd love to see a review of your 1960 Piper Comanche 250 you have in stock if you have the time. Looks and reads like a nice airplane.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Already made one! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGS9mqqtqdWar7M&ab_channel=FlyingwithRich Here you go.

[@kasm10]

Been waiting for this one after seeing the J advertised

[@FlyingwithRich]

Love that airplane!

[@mikercflyer7383]

A question from a none pilot do the 3 gear lights checked in between flights to make sure the they work?

[@FlightSimDude]

👍👍👍👍👍 I just did a Seneca video, KSAC to KSFO.👍

[@myleslovegrove7856]

Just been browsing through your videos and noticed you've never had a Rockwell commander 112 and 114.....What are your views on this aircraft?

[@FlyingwithRich]

Flew one years ago - nice airplane, big heavy airplane feel, but slower than the competition and never really caught on in the market. Risky purchase when compared with a Bonanza, 210, Mooney or Saratoga. Thanks for watching!

[@myleslovegrove7856]

Thanks Rich. Videos are great!

[@slowsteve3497]

How much is a Mooney from this era?

[@jorgerefsgaard2522]

Mr. Rich: I ‘ve seen your video, and as I am looking for one, now I request on the Seneca II, if its on sale. Thank for thy reply.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Seneca sold!

[@piper0428]

I flew a seneca and C 172 the same day! BFD!

[@AJpro88]

man that last landing was too smoove..

[@mustang1191]

I didn’t realize Piper was making the Seneca in 1975. Always thought the Seneca replaced the Aztec….

[@rakshithkaranam4976]

Bro fr how many type ratings do you have

[@FlyingwithRich]

I have three PIC and 2 SIC Type Ratings - thanks for watching!

[@lerazor1453]

I would love to fly with you I go to school at CSULB

[@mauricearmstrong5375]

More instrument close ups and fewer profiles of Rich.

[@HolmScott]

200 knots going straight down😂

[@droge192]

15:26 - Beautifully upgraded Seneca II .... but.... all those G5s, a 750, etc, and that's some nasty skimping on the autopilot. The STEC 55 is such a poor unit. The number of squawks that so many people have with alt holding. It's just a poor, unreliable product. The Garmin GFC500 would have been so much better; FLC mode and VNAV (neither of which the STEC 55 has), better interfacing with the GTN for RNAV approaches. With all the APs on the market these days, the STEC 55 would be the second last choice I'd ever go for. (The last choice being the STEC 30 that was in the Mooney! - doesn't even have any approach or climb/descent capabilities). Just avoid STEC and you'll be good to go. Even an old KAP140 knocks the socks off the STEC 30 and 55. If you skimp on this when upgrading, the money will come straight off the resale value. More and more people are aware of just how weak STEC APs are and will want to factor in a replacement from the outset. PS. Despite all the moaning - loved the video!

[@DavidR_192]

Agree, 100%. Had the stec 55 in two consecutive personal airplanes. Both had identical issues. Absolute garbage.

[@FlyingwithRich]

So what you are saying is, you don’t like STEC autopilots?

[@droge192]

@@FlyingwithRich - Purely based on experience (not sure what other reason I'd have. I don't work for Garmin!), yes, absolutely. As the other gent said, two units in a row, both with squawks. It's just so common is all. PS. Still loved the vid. I just made it my mission in life to warn fellow pilots about STEC serial unreliability.

[@beardelmar]

Hi Rich, always look forward to your content - thanks. Language argument, totally meaningless, but here goes. I think it would be r's p m . Because two things are revolving but there is only one minute. The counter argument might be that "rpm" is a single self-contained phrase, of which there are two occurring. One left rpm, one right rpm. Thus "rpm's" Enough english, let's go flying.

[@jesseg8920]

Can I pay an airplane loan over a 30 year period? Lol!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Normally 20 years is the longest term on an airplane. Thanks for watching!

[@bernardanderson3758]

Rich give me a call and I’ll fly out there with you anytime

[@kurtflip2]

First !

[@lutomson3496]

laughing at bragging about efficiency at 16 mpg the older mooneys had wooden spars and they are a pain to work on with avionics running cables etc

[@dforr2981]

Dude, learn your aircraft before you start flapping tour gums. Thank goodness I only wasted less than 5 min before I turned it off. If you have to guess the facts … come on….

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks for watching! What are “tour gums”?

[@jefar53]

Your a dick he flys more different aircraft in one day then anyone I know cut him a break bro

[@dforr2981]

@@jefar53 than I guess he should know what he's talking about before he talks about.