Multi-Modulation Pedals 2: A Challenger Appears!

[@KordTaylor]

Thank you so much! I am looking for a multi mod for a small pedalboard so this is very helpful! Thanks again. Very appreciated!👏

[@da-rec]

Que genio que sos tengo el source audio y no podia encontrar el tremolo y vos lo explicas y lo gráficas todo sos un genio mil gracias desde ARGENTINA

[@madderbass]

If you want something small, cheap, and don't care about MIDI functionality, I would suggest checking out the CNZ Audio SMD-10 Modulation Pedal. You can get one for $60, and it's a small mini pedal that has 11 modulation effects, which include Chorus, Trichorus, P. Flanger, N. Flanger, Jet Flanger, Vibrato, Unvibe, Phaser, O. Tremolo, B. Tremolo, and an Auto Filter. And it's easy to use and it sounds pretty good too. I love my Orbital Modulator myself, but I still prefer having the MIDI functionality as well as the parameters I can edit and I don't want to invest in a Strymon Mobius or Boss MD-200... yet.

[@LeFeversAudio]

Interesting, never heard of this one. Thanks for the heads up!

[@db.5811]

Also that CNZ pedal is prob the identical to Rowin mod station or landlord fx spinning room. Same layout, effects and functionality. The Rowin can be had for less $. CNZ seems to take all those mini pedals that everyone re-brands and charge much more than competitors. I got the Rowin when looking into modulation and so far it gets the job done. I came here considering a replacement because the tiny knobs are a pain to tweak and it makes it difficult to dial in a specific rate for the effects.

[@BlueberryStinkFinger62]

Mod 11 by a country mile

[@Jaysteenn]

Very nice playing! I have a EHX Mod 11 and Boss Md-200. They are pretty similar besides the tap tempo. Source Audio looks like a very nice pedal but takes time to remember where the dials should be for certain modes. Awsome pedal tho for sure.

[@g.m.1672]

you mean similar soundwise? There's a 100 usd difference between them and i am about to buy the MD-200. In that case i have to re-consider.

[@Jaysteenn]

@@g.m.1672 In my opinion,I thought I was going to be blown away with the Md-200 but I just haven't been for the money. Maybe you will think different? 🤷‍♂️

[@g.m.1672]

@@Jaysteenn I have high expectations & hate the mobius already. better to go with the Used EHX mod11. Have you tried alexander Wavelenght?

[@Jaysteenn]

@@g.m.1672I havent tried the wavelength, The Wampler Terraform is suppose to come out tommrow tho and was going to check that out.

[@LeFeversAudio]

The Source Audio one is awesome but yeah, a couple of the modes are a pain. I think it sounds better than all of the competition (that I've tried) but unless you save tremolo as a preset like I did, it'd be such a hassle to use for that. I haven't tried the Boss, I tend to like their stuff but I keep forgetting the MD-200 exists.

[@malcolmbliss777]

I have both of these pedals, and if you were to include the Earthquaker Orbital pedal (also: have), you have the holy trinity of affordable phase, my friend.

[@thislisa]

Appreciate it.

[@toneranger]

I have the Mod 11, very handy size, but its not practical live as there are no presets, so constant bending down if you want to change. Less variations and a preset button would have made it a much better pedal live.Thanks for the comparison

[@mikec3412]

Man the orbital does sound good, but watching you dial in settings gives me anxiety, haha.

[@LeFeversAudio]

Hah! Some of those engines are NOT easy. I'm so confused by their priorities, they made presets for like, six different flangers and 3-4 phasers, but there's no way to get to a classic chorus or vibrato or tremolo without going into the deep editing tools. Why.

[@jakollee]

Great video. I was hoping to like the EHX Mod 11 better, but I have to admit the Orbital just sounded richer on each setting [sigh]. I may still end up getting the EHX, for its smaller footprint and for the Pitch and Filter settings. (Is the Filter like an auto-wah, envelope filter sound??)

[@LeFeversAudio]

Thanks! Yeah, I wanted to like it more too. I'm not sure what the Filter setting is all about - I never quite got an auto wah thing happening but yeah it's some kind of envelope filter. Low Pass, High Pass, etc, and then there are (I believe) sub options that allow for more movement / different LFO shapes...

[@toneranger]

Great review, Can the #Mod11 be used with a standard #9v multi power brick? I see the power rating is 9.6v not 9v

[@LeFeversAudio]

Oh, interesting. Yeah I used it with a standard power supply. I think EHX does that sometimes, though... the manual will say "9.6v" for some reason but everyone just uses a normal power brick.

[@toneranger]

@@LeFeversAudio cheers thanks for taking time to respond. EHX just confirmed that a standard 9v will do the job, 👍🏻

[@DarthEcoli]

The Orbiter sounds nice enough, but looks incredibly complicated to set. When first using the Ehx 11 pedals, including Canyon delay, the mode/secondary button can be complicated, but here, it looks even simpler than the Orbiter. To me, it also sounds just as nice. I'd definitely go with the Mod 11.

[@LeFeversAudio]

If you've used the Canyon, this would be a breeze. I think the Canyon, the Mod 11, and the Ocean's 11 reverb are meant to be a trilogy and all work the same way as each other.

[@DarthEcoli]

@@LeFeversAudio I use a Canyon religiously on my pedalboard. Agreed on the trilogy, and why I mentioned it. You're right. Because of my learning curve with the Canyon, the Mod 11 should be much easier. Hivemind and such. lol

[@truemansparks]

EHX all the way.

[@nicholasbeydler1257]

What did you decide to keep?

[@LeFeversAudio]

Nicholas Beydler - So far, the Orbital still wins for me on quality of the effects. It can be a huge pain to dial in, though, and the tremolo is very limited. Hanging on to the Orbital for now but I’m thinking of getting at least an analog tremolo back on my board.

[@nicholasbeydler1257]

Matt LeFevers Thanks so much! I’m planning to do basically the same thing...I’m looking for an Orbital Modulator and will keep an analog tremolo on my board.

[@LeFeversAudio]

Nicholas Beydler - that was the sweet spot for me - partly because the Orbital is so good at everything else except tremolo, and partly because then it let me put the trem much later in the chain than the others and I liked it better there.

[@vladimirpavlovic9488]

How about md-200 from Boss?

[@LeFeversAudio]

I haven't tried that one, I don't think it existed when I was looking into this, but it looks pretty amazing to be honest. If I was still trying to do an all-in-one mod thing I'd get it in a heartbeat. (I decided to stop trying to do everything and just get a really great chorus and tremolo...)

[@vladimirpavlovic9488]

@@LeFeversAudio I think it is a great all arounder. I have its older adn bigger brother, md 500. But getting seperate pedals is a legitimate tactic, too. Especially if you really use those two effects. To me, with mods, It is not enough. I do not use them much, but when I do, I like adding different flavors, depending on the song. Usually it is a trem or a phaser, but gosh some octave stuff and leslie and chorus/vibrato are very cool sounding..so multifx is the only solution for me. What exact pedal models do you have your eyes on?

[@LeFeversAudio]

@@vladimirpavlovic9488 - I have a Boss CE-2w chorus and a Mojo Hand tremolo now… found I was using those effects the most often. I miss my phaser occasionally but otherwise don’t miss the other effects I lost.

[@vladimirpavlovic9488]

@@LeFeversAudio Those are very good choices.

[@thierrygoli4271]

I have both. EHX sounds better (esp for rotary, trem, univibe, pitch) but MD stereo (in case) and preset saving capacity very useful in stage.

[@AnthonyGoombots]

electro harmonix mod 11 every time

[@fatelvishguy6386]

I would probably sell both and save a little more, then invest in a used mobius.

[@LeFeversAudio]

Too much pedalboard real estate and money for me, relative to how much I care about modulation, but Strymon rules and I bet the Mobius is terrific. That's definitely the high end, boss-level version of this.

[@madderbass]

Another possibility for a contender is the Joyo Vision. You can get it for $89. Worth checking out.

[@marks4553]

i agree

[@inset09]

This pedal is trash. Just don't buy it. I'm trying to sell mine for a long time.

[@madderbass]

@@inset09 Why? Is it noisy? Not enough options? They're budget pedals but they're good budget pedals and all the Joyo pedals I've owned have been a great value for the cheap price.

[@inset09]

@@madderbass volume drop, hi cut and some useless effects. They should put a volume knob and stop cutting high frequencies.

[@madderbass]

@@inset09 Good to know! Thanks!

[@chrisnagy1429]

This is an unfair comparison due to the price point, the Source Audio sounds superior by far but again what are the prices of these dynamos. I like both but ehx wins out because of price

[@LeFeversAudio]

Chris Nagy - I got each of them for $130ish. Are you seeing a higher price for the Orbital? If anything it's the older pedal of the two. Right now on Reverb I see a couple of Source Audios for $100 but nothing for the Mod 11 under $120.

[@thierrygoli4271]

Sounds good, but mod 11 with no preset saving capacity is useless on stage! I have one but use it only il my bedroom. I own the Boss md 200 for stage but not very inspiring pedal I must admit.

[@gili41]

Pedal for each effect is the way to go...these multieffects never sound good enough

[@thierrygoli4271]

wrong. I have had bunch of pedals and multimod. Rotary, pitch, trem, harm and univibe sound very decent on the mod 11. The main drawback is no preset saving...