Multi Sub Optimizer (Max Output Method) MSO Tutorial

[@TakiKumi-bu5yy]

I have great news. A new version of this tutorial will be coming on 12/16/23. I've worked really hard trying to make this as easy as possbile to watch and understand. This will be the best way to my understanding of how you should be optimizing for a multi sub setup. See you soon! PS this video might be quite long (and it's a two parter)

[@rickcorless]

Subbed! Looking forward to the new tutorial. Would be great if you can cover every step of the process including measuring in REW and the best practices surrounding that. Edit - would you be open to the idea of doing paid callibrations via Google Meet or Zoom? I would be willing to pay you for your time. I'm struggling to get my 4 subs calibrated properly. Thank you!

[@TakiKumi-bu5yy]

@rickcorless I won't take payments for something like that, if you need help I'll glady do it for free. Contact me via discord, as I'm more familiar with it. taki_kumi

[@rickcorless]

​@@TakiKumi-bu5yy That's very kind of you - thank you. I've sent you a friend request in Discord.

[@TakiKumi-bu5yy]

I've had a lot of thought about this, and decided to go a different direction on how I'll be uploading the new tutoiral. It just felt like way too much infomation for way too long. A 1 hour 46 min video explaining the properties of subwoofers measurements will burn people out. My goal is to have the best video on Subwoofer Optimization, and a near 2 hour video is a bad fit. Instead I'm going to upload shorter 10-15 min videos explaining single concepts. It'll be much more easier to learn and less of a burn out.

[@---vn2kv]

Thanks for sharing the information! I also have 4 subwoofers and experiment a lot with MSO settings. Tell me, have you tried using All-Pass Filters? What settings did you get the best sound at? (not just the loudest).

[@shootha]

Great stuff. Just started to tinker with MSO. Looking forward to your new video.

[@larry9079]

Thanks this explains why when using mso sometimes it sounded worse then run it again and it sound good I will definitely try your method

[@shaggs2riches]

I just started with MSO. I was really impressed with the overall improvement my first run was. I look forward to trying this method, once you have your new tutorials out.

[@EB1000]

Are these the correct steps for the procedure? 1. take REW measurements with time alignment as usual and name them according to sub# and location. 2. Use REW for the alignemt and get the optimal delays. 3. Export and load the measurements into MSO as new project. 4. Set the delay limits in MSO. 5. Run the MSO calibration and load the results into the target DSP. Is this correct? Thanks

[@buddydragoas9436]

This method made an major improvement. Due to my setup I needed to use 3 steps.

[@joek6207]

Great video!

[@BuffSquadBigBenni]

Thank you for your video. Would love to see a complete step by step guide from start to finish. Every time you show/explain something, I would love if you could also explain why you do this or that. Much appreciated!

[@TakiKumi-bu5yy]

I'm currently still working on a full beginner's guide. A lot of things go into getting the best MSO results, so it'll be a little longer before that version comes out. Plus I don't want to rush something and be completely wrong about, causing more misinformation.

[@BuffSquadBigBenni]

@@TakiKumi-bu5yy sounds good! Looking forward to it. There really is a lack of MSO videos out there. A lot of online documentation and forum posts, but almost no video guides. Only Jeff Merys comes to mind, and his guide(s) are a little outdated.

[@Klipschcat]

great video I hope you can make the step by step guide, I saw other MSO Tutorial but you are the best on explained for a newbie like me, I sub to you

[@jmccalip90]

Very good video!

[@DrSchnaggelz]

I usually do measurements with the center channel as timing reference. This way i can compare two measurements and see how much delay needs to be added to align both subs.

[@wells2671]

Is this for only 1 seating position? I'm assuming that the phase would be different at different seats, especially if you have more than one row of seats.

[@-onemoretry]

Any idea when your new videos will start dropping. I am struggling bad with this. When I check my results with rew looks like I haven’t done anything

[@TakiKumi-bu5yy]

I don't want to give a new date just yet. The first video is done, but I wanna have at least two videos done so I can do a weekly upload format. If you need help I'm more than willing to do it for free. Contact me on discord taki_kumi

[@ManCaveAudio]

When can we see next video

[@chesleebryan5099]

Since you added a negative delay. After optimizing, how would you enter that in a MiniDSP since it doesn’t do negative delays?

[@TakiKumi-bu5yy]

Once we use those delays for MSO. MSO will give us the correct delays that doesn't have the negative delays for our Minidsp.