MUMMIFIED embryos born from my Albino Boesemani UGHHHH!!

[@lilfurrypaws]

I don't know how I got here but I like what I'm learning.

[@hannabass1132]

me too....lol

[@alexatomasovic4022]

Same, lol.

[@SheriLynNut]

Right? How I got here from Jeffree Star I'll never know, but it's totally fascinating!

[@lisawilliams8507]

Sea_bassy_cat yep me too from reptiles to stingrays

[@elizabethgomez7624]

Same 🤣

[@thania68]

Poor thing. She's breathing so fast. She's so stressed out

[@bakedgoldfish45]

thania72olds442 Stress makes it buff with adrenaline, exactly what we need for a feast.

[@SmooshGoo]

@@bakedgoldfish45 lol wtf

[@MadarakiFran]

@@SmooshGoo he's actually right but it's pretty sick and inhumane. sometimes they kill the fish in the most frightening way to them, to boost their adrenaline in that moment, supposedly makes it tastier. It's terrible.

[@Nemesis0513]

It just gave birth to 5 pups. Did you expect more or less?

[@greenleif]

@@MadarakiFran Sounds like ADRENOCHROME. (◡_◡ﻩ🌸)

[@shebawildcraft7752]

I really thought she was a tortilla 😂

[@paulie8743]

Same 😂

[@cillamoke]

I thought she was a plate of fried eggs, sunny side up 🙃

[@ilovesesshomarusama716]

Raww Fishh me too!!

[@Noraicycrystal]

Oh ma gash samee

[@theamazing_roblocksaurorav9170]

Lmao

[@WarriorBulldogs]

Lucky she survived.. It's very common for any female animal with stillborns to not make it.

[@Rhyz-1]

Fish are Hardy that way

[@bakedgoldfish45]

M e a t y

[@TheFakeyCakeMaker]

Depends why the baby is stillborn but yeah to carry them around like that :-/ poor Mama

[@possum9403]

Non Flammable Boi cursed comment

[@bakedgoldfish45]

an opossum yaaaaaas

[@booyaaka7768]

Those dead babies kinda looked like wontons

[@StingrayBiology]

Do you want some noodles with that?

[@booyaaka7768]

StingrayBiology 🤣🤣

[@bakedgoldfish45]

StingrayBiology R/cursedcomments

[@Tsusagi]

They kind of remind me of rolled up condoms

[@theadvancedfloof3514]

StingrayBiology Sure 🍜

[@mariethomas3413]

Please explain how breeding back to their mother or siblings won't cause eventual genetic issues?

[@DelRae]

Marie Thomas it will and he knows it but the profit > the animals future

[@brucewillis4604]

It may but what can be done to mitigate this is breed out again after the first generation of parent to offspring breeding to gain another generation of hets for albino to increase the pool of albino breeders( even if they are just carriers of the gene) but with greater genetic diversity. Eventually with continued outbreeding then inbreeding you get decent genetic diversity with the albino genes present amongst the pool of breeders

[@kayleeforster8121]

Line breeding isnt the worst thing in the world, especially when it comes to fish. Its just doing it for generations and generations that cause common and extreme defects. Breeding back to the mother is actually more genetically diverse than having two from the same batch

[@thevintagebookwolf4953]

You can line breed for around 3 or 4 generations back to back before the dna of the animals becomes far to similar therefore the animals will start collecting poor genetic code making them more squashed. It's the same with people the first 4 generations with no new genetic code with be genetically sound and after that there's too much over lap and it causes problems. It's why people can make children with their cousins and they aren't technically by genetic terms inbred there's just enough new code to create a brand new human being with no issues.

[@MinecraftMick]

@@thevintagebookwolf4953 Well I don't see why your argument with the cousins is in any way proving your statement with the 4 generation thing. If you breed brother and sister, then there is a risk of that second generation to become "dysfunctional". If you would inbreed that 2. generation, hell you would be very likely to get disformed humans out of it. Breeding between cousins and breeding 4 generations between sister/brother are two different things. The coefficient of relation of brother and sister is 1/2 (50%) and among cousins it is 1/8 (12,5%) You are basically saying 1 = 0 that's why ∞ - 0 = ∞ -1. It does not really work that way. Btw. Maybe it works with fish, but keep in mind that the life cycle of a human being is far longer than that of a sting ray. A longer life cycle means more time for radiation and toxins to play around with your genes and make them mutate. On top of that, humans have tricked natural selection which results in us having more diseases like diabetes, cancer or some autoimmune diseases. Most of these conditions have a genetical component to them and can be inherited. However, I doubt that there are no negative consequences for fish too. However, you can "outbreed" those defects in later generations.

[@prettylove621]

She’s beautiful I never seen an albino ray before

[@OtDawn]

Congratulations on the new babies, so cute and sad for the ones who didn't make it. ! God Bless.

[@patshhi4620]

I’m so glad she is ok Kevin. The pups look great. It was interesting to see the undeveloped pups. Thanks for the video.

[@sister_cattleprod]

I know NOTHING about sting rays but I have a couple of questions. 1. Do these "albino" rays have the albinism gene? 2. Given that Albinism does indeed cause problems with any living entity, do you think mummified fetuses could be a complication due to albinism? Like I said, I know nothing about aquatic animals however, I am a "farm wife" who has seen many odd things in a number of species over the years. Even wildlife, true albino's have a myriad of problems. Just curious!

[@debbiefox6846]

Yes I think you a very correct in your thinking. Albinism is a cause of premature death in animals as far as longevity and still births. Then line breeding/ (in-breeding) which i am highly not in favor of ( for health reasons) adds a whole other level of risk and complications. See these issues all the time in reptiles, dogs, cats as well.

[@megasocky]

Inbreeding is meant mostly for a controlled gene pool but it does def cause complications. Breeders do it frequently if they want specific traits but dont have another source to breed with thats reliable

[@pauledwards5607]

@@megasocky No...it CAN cause or be a problem. It's not necessarily a problem. In many animals, most in fact inbreeding is a bad thing, but in others it's not. You can also, once you have the gene established, which is the important thing, you can always outbreed them back to wild caught or different strains of the same species. Outbreeding adding vigor. Albino rats and mice can breed many generations with no problems. In this case, he has no choice...he HAS to breed the het males back to the albino female...there is no other way to do it, because that is a one of a kind albino stingray.

[@ScoopDogg]

@@charlieparker5346 very interesting

[@ChexiiBabii88]

I love when she blinks! It's like she's animated in a way lol

[@DebbieW1965]

I didn't think inbreeding was good for the offspring?

[@TheFakeyCakeMaker]

Every species began with inbreeding, it's only after a couple of gens it starts to get nasty.

[@AaaaNinja]

@@TheFakeyCakeMaker OMG no it doesn't. A whole population of animals that become isolated can create a new species, new species doesn't begin with inbreeding. 1,000 animals isolated from the rest of their species by a geologic event that cuts them off such as a landslide. Over time mutations in their genetics accumulate and propagate throughout that population and there are enough individuals and genetic diversity that inbreeding doesn't occur. Those mutations don't wind up in the original species, only the isolated population.... because they are cut off from the rest of the world. Enough genetic drift over time results in a new species.

[@MuFu23]

Inbreeding can be detrimental, but it's usually not as bad for most animals as it is for humans. It all has to do with the amount of harmful recessive genes being carried by the parents. I've had mice that did nothing but inbreed for generations, and the vast majority of them ended up healthy even 2-3 generations in.

[@TheFakeyCakeMaker]

@@AaaaNinja It's almost as though I gave an overly simplified answer because this is KZbin not Science Con. Also every species did at one point start with inbreeding because erm...numbers. Scientists recognise that humans and animals share one common ancestor. If all humans share a common ancestor then inbreeding happened at some point. Sheesh, it's not difficult to understand.

[@TheFakeyCakeMaker]

@White Rice We are not all male and my claim is not incorrect, just over simplified.

[@jacquelinetate5206]

I didn't know anything about a stingray until I came across this. I'm hooked!! Very educational and intriguing

[@heathergustafson4237]

Maybe she doesn’t like the stark non ocean like surroundings. She is all alone and so exposed

[@ShannonK3884]

She looks like she is blinking, soooo weird yet so BEAUTIFUL

[@scorpio7938]

They need more natural feeling tanks so barren they should feel like they are in their natural habitat

[@ArtHarrier]

The inbreed would pass on the albino gene, but isn't there a risk birth defects?

[@Sasha-up9er]

If you don't do it too many times, inbreeding is generally harmless. The problem with inbreeding is that it greatly increases the chance that a mutated gene will appear because it won't be overpowered by a healthy gene (the baby would have two alleles, but the more inbreeding the more likely you are to get two of the mutated alleles which will be expressed). This can result in all kinds of health issues, from birth defects, genetic diseases, etc. That's how I understand it anyway, I'm not a biologist so I could be wrong.

[@DanielGonzalez-gd3dx]

Sorry for the 2 pups that didn’t make it. But at least you have 3 healthy pups that carry the albino gen with them beautiful sting rays.

[@BeartifulAri]

omg, they are called sea pancakes for a reason... aahhhhh the pups are so cuutteee! Good job mama!

[@jaheje7079]

My appetite also severely decreased when I got really close to going into labor with all my babies, too! Such beautiful little creatures. 😊

[@elvisdapanda193]

At first glance she looked like a tortilla in the thumbnail

[@CaminoPrins]

Are you gonna breed the siblings with each other....??

[@peterwooldridge7435]

Is there a lot of stillborns from all the inbreeding?

[@StingrayBiology]

It happens occasionally

[@mustard3687]

They’re very graceful creatures

[@ReinaAfricana]

Thought your pet was a tortilla

[@crypticDJ]

Well you see when a mommy ray and a daddy ray love each other very much

[@theasylist2913]

wouldn't inbreeding be bad what in the pups come out with defects I have a more likely chance of them coming out with defects

[@StingrayBiology]

Yes, its bad in some regards, but it is necessary to isolate the albino gene. We can later out cross with none related genetics.

[@theasylist2913]

The reason I ask is because I don't know much about breeding animals and I've always heard that inbreeding was bad

[@Mr.Helper.]

The Asylist people in West Virginia do it

[@theasylist2913]

@@Mr.Helper. what do you mean by that people in West Virginia and breeder animals or do you mean people in West Virginia and greed either way it's true LOL

[@theasylist2913]

I hate living in West Virginia so much

[@mingmeng7780]

I thought it was just cooked eggs 😂

[@LeNomEstYves]

My boy called me and said "Ohh you got a hairy back!" Lol I thought that was a joke in the intro

[@hellosweetheart3350]

Crazy how people can post a video on KZbin showing inhumane living of these beautiful beings.

[@lindaha80]

Wow!!! What a beautiful albino stingray!😍😍😍

[@marystachowiak7272]

Beautiful mama matches your heart!

[@chubill5821]

support, look forward to see al boes pups

[@mickieminton6940]

Do you not find that line breeding causes genetic problems? I know it does in mammals and wondered if it does in fish as well or as often?

[@piamishelle]

when you were speaking about the albino genetics i was like “i know all about this bc i’m in AP Bio and it’s the only thing i understand” 😭🤧

[@jacobwilcox4092]

Amazing I learn something every time i watch your videos! Can't wait for the second generation albino pups!!!

[@fann.9874]

That stingray is beautiful holy crap her pattern😍😍

[@longwhitemane]

RELAX! You and your girls have got this. 😃 Just remember that your girls "haven't read the book" on how to be pregnant & give birth. They are all going to be different. You take GREAT care of your rays and are very knowledgeable. I just wish you wouldn't inbreed them. That why so many pure bred dogs, horses, etc. are so screwed up. Cheers!

[@jabrilibrahim8918]

Crazy how defensive the rays get

[@shaielcabello3910]

Wait so you are going to breed them with each other or their parents?

[@hacamacaperu0825]

Stingrays are my favorite animals. So glad I found your channel 👍🏽

[@SkunkMom]

The momma is a BEAUTIFUL ray 🥰😍😍

[@lesliejohnson2982]

Out of curiousity - Is it safe genetically to breed brothers and sisters or sons/daughters to each other?

[@Chesh_.]

I got from watching Pokemon Let's Go Eevee videos to this, I'm not sure how but I've learnt a few things I never thought I'd know.

[@tobythetoaster1086]

Those stillborn pups would look neat preserved in jars.

[@tbbbbbb]

Wow. She is so beautiful.

[@DollSchmidt4429]

She's so beautiful I love her

[@warwhiskers]

i like how he says when the start breeding with each other or the parents he like why do you think two of them are still born

[@missoverdressed826]

the mother is GORGEOUS

[@nicholas8476]

Few years from now when it’s cheaper, we’ll just be subbing in the alleles we want right into the egg..

[@Lexus_800]

Sorry for the loss of the 2 pups.

[@Chowanoc222]

I clicked on this because I thought this fish was a cooked tortilla and I said to myself whatever he’s cooking looks good and low and behold it’s a fucking fish 😂😂💀

[@potatamort]

Never seen an albino ray before being recommended this video. So beautiful 😍

[@lindsaylouhoo1410]

Wow! She is a beautiful stingray!

[@eequalsmcdonald]

She's absolutely stunningly gorgeous

[@josankrury7139]

thank you, I really enjoyed that

[@Sinclair80]

Those little babies are precious

[@Rose.Of.Hizaki]

3:59 - this music reminded me so much of old 'whose line is it anyway' when they used to have a chick play the piano for the hoe-downs.

[@lucillegoudreau441]

I don’t know how I ended up here either, but thanks for the video, I liked it

[@AmayaHinageshi]

The pancakes were slightly undercooked, but beautiful nonetheless.

[@laiyaijekiel2810]

The 1st and 3rd pup were so calm! Its cute.❤️ I love rays!

[@Peterrdee]

SHES GORGEOUS OMG

[@BrittyJo87]

I stopped watching after he mentioned conscious inbreeding. Way to strengthen the species dude.

[@mileyrocks852]

BrittyJo87 yeah I became very disinterested after that.

[@KrillWhisperer]

It's probably like with humans; first offspring has a very little chance to be born with problems and usually ends up perfectly normal. Further inbreeding; now that's an avenger size threat.

[@designsonyouinparis]

Poor mama. She looks so tired. Please give her a special treat. She did an amazing job!

[@jayniestanley7118]

That's awesome!!! Congrats....can't wait to c much more. I luv these Ray's.

[@Totalchaos0228]

Shes lovely!

[@lynndora5046]

They are beautiful I bet you love your job

[@pawpaw1207]

O.o do they got lil feets? Look like lil feets. When he holds up the babys...cute..

[@jonahhill4179]

"You got a hairy back"

[@jadelilly420]

The sea tortilla had a bunch of baby sea pancakes

[@junedominguez2549]

Super awesome! How very interesting and the babies and mama are beautiful. How high is the mortality rate I the breeding of these fish?

[@Weasel0539]

Eeew they interbreed with each other? Surely that's not ideal in any species

[@onetwocue]

That probably led to a high rate of birth defects

[@SS-ui7by]

It's not good, but he's still did it.

[@chickenlittle6186]

It’s called Line Breeding. Look it up. Some breeders will do the same thing just once with a father and daughter as it’ll pass on their genetics and blood lines.

[@Romanticoutlaw]

we do it with everything from horses to cats to rabbits to snakes, I don't get the revulsion?

[@mysticmicemousery3045]

in mice it takes 20 generations of line breeding before you see negative effects , unless you have bad starting genes

[@Ezi1738]

I feel so smart that I know how to Read the thumbnail

[@majorleaguinfidel]

That's a Beautiful Ray! Ive never seen anything like her and she's gorgeous. I'm sorry about her babies. She's a big beady eyed beauty though

[@kimgesumaria5050]

Stingray bio ... you are very loving to your animals... ignore the haters and keep your passion going strong❣

[@princetonmason3345]

Love the channel✌✌

[@RiiLove]

What a beauty ♡

[@Vindaya_]

Boesemani: I need an inhaler.....

[@booyaaka7768]

Have you ever owned or produced any xanthic or platinum rays before? (If that’s even a thing with rays)

[@mileshayne1474]

so awesome very informatable

[@juliescesar]

Know nothing about stingrays other than it's a fish. Reading thru the comments there's a lot, I mean, a lot of concern about the future plan to inbred either "mom x son or brother to sister". One thing people are misinterpreting is that these aren't mammals, in mammals there's a greater chance to develop genetic problems when inbreeding occurs. In fish and other animal species, at least in some fish species you can inbreed up to F4 without a issue. Beautiful rays by the way.

[@fdhadi]

this animal costs about 1500 USD, cos albino stingray is rare.

[@ianspaintpot]

nice fish why dont you use the 2 net methord to catch them you should never slide them up the tank the 2 net methord is less stresfull on the fish plus sliding up the tank can damage them. i have been keeping tropical marine and fresh plus Axolotls in conjunction with southampton uni as they are studying the regeneration gene they are hoping to use this for burns,and damaged orgen regen

[@sandyc4492]

Very cool 👍

[@catm590]

Wow i never knew stingrays could look so beautiful like that! Huh, learn something new everyday.

[@chrisylove1659]

Just came here and I'm already in love

[@ajittripathi9658]

How much tank size required for 4 new born to double their size

[@onetwocue]

So if your baby is Albino, you better being questioning if your spouse's dad is your uncle

[@katiepintu8527]

With dogs, cats, etc. breeding offspring with their parents or siblings can cause many problems with the new offspring.. is it not the same with fish/stingrays??

[@Alltehnamesaretaken1]

Nah its the same, they will just cull the worst ones and keep the best ones.

[@almastiy]

She's soooo cute 😍

[@eaglehawk3536]

Shouldn’t you take care of the mom stingray first or getting a vet to look at her before getting your showcase on. She is breathing really hard. And the way you dug your thumbnails into the still borns. Savage.

[@OwenMichtofen-rx5yz]

0:28 “ Oh, you gotta hairy back

[@jamyeduffell5372]

I dont know much about inbreeding but I do know heigine. Do you realize how many times you touched the water with your bare hands? How about that basket ? Did you wash it off or the cable ties to get chemicals off? You handled atleast 3 dead baby sting rays that day 2 stillborn and the albino that sufficated.

[@nessienethquik]

Jamye Duffell he’s only in it for the money, since he’s inbreeding that’s clear. he could have found a male online who’s owner would have probably wanted to do it as well seeing as everyone else seems to think inbreeding is also bad.

[@jamyeduffell5372]

@@nessienethquik well that's obvious he is in it for the money. I felt sorry for the animal. He said he did a 60% water change but look at the bottom of the tank. So much debree and that was before the babies were born.

[@almaorozco2679]

Awww.. good job mama. She beautiful. #femaleproblems

[@foreverbored2009]

My boy Casper

[@geckomcgraw2692]

love your vids!

[@chrispayne1324]

Where are those acrylic tanks from? What are the dimensions?

[@nicholas8476]

Chris Payne He made himself, I believe he said, in a past video. Most of these guys buy from an acrylic or glass company, and just figure out thickness based on water pressure. Expensive though..

[@geefisher3663]

I don’t know why I’m here but I’m kinda into it

[@jabrilibrahim8918]

Unfortunately 2 babies dead but at least those hets carry the albino bosemani future crazy bro👍👍👍

[@roedoresdeoliveira]

Is very common in albino animals to have undeveloped offspring, the albinism genes are not very easy to manipulate. Inbreeding and breeding two albinos can bring wanted results faster but it can bring disease and malformations faster too.