I'm unconvinced that Ova acted entirely alone in this case. While her motive for the killings makes it seem plausible, it is just as plausible that she was manipulated into believing those things, or had her already latent beliefs intensified, or even had those thoughts directly implanted into her mind, while at the same time shrouding her mind from the other two dryads. From the first time I heard that the killers in this story were all victims of memory manipulation and mind control, I figured that House Dimir had to be involved somehow, and what better time to pull off a conspiracy like this than when Lazav is presumed dead and the guild is officially desolved. It hearkens back to the before times, when House Dimir was a silent power in Ravnica. Following this line of thought, another hypothesis I have is that Alquist Proft was actually Lazav the whole time wearing the famous detective's face. This is why he absolves Etrata of suspicion so early on and continues to work closely with her afterwards. Masquerading as Proft also allows Lazav to evade suspicion (because no one would suspect the head detective on the case) while Ova spreads the mind altering spore toxin across Ravnica, with those affected by toxin murdering some of House Dimir's greatest rivals. Lazav is called the Mastermind for a reason after all; I can definitely see him pulling off something like this. This is probably all just wishful thinking on my part, seeing as House Dimir is and always has been my favorite guild, and Wizards probably didn't intend for this story to have nearly the amount of depth that I'm giving it, but it's fun to speculate. I do seem to recall some mention of Lazav and Etrata planning a future coup on Ravnica back in War of the Spark's aftermath, so maybe this is the beginning of that? Here's to hoping.
@alusteratrocious59368 ай бұрын
They almost had me. Trostani being the culprit made some sense in that phyrexia is all about unity and so is selesnya so i had thought that they were trying to emmulate the oil with the pollen but no. We just like to sweep the oil thing under the rug these days.
@danielbloomquist98108 ай бұрын
Bout time the Guildless seized some degree of agency and formed a...well, an agency for investigation and intervention when the guilds and their endless conflicts preclude any and all of them from being trusted to reliably resolve matters such as this brazen assassination. People forget that outside of the guilds' respective territories is the rest, and indeed, the vast majority of the planewide ecumenopolis that is Ravnica. They must fend for themselves as the guilds are only ever focused on their ten point struggle for supremacy. They have to constantly be asking each other what's the point of even preserving the Guildpact when it's clear every single one of them is just paying lip service to their arcane accord while covertly acting to dominate one another. I'd be keen to witness an arc that saw the Guilds forced into solidarity when the Guildless have finally had enough and revolt across the entire plane.
@cossakrose8 ай бұрын
Krenko: "What the heck!? I didn't do anything! ...other than all the other things I did do!!"
@ethanbest91107 ай бұрын
It's cool to see a continuation of tri-color combos emerging on the plane as things get bigger and more complicated as time goes on, especially as someone who really enjoyed messing with Ghired's deck when it came out.
@JMDSlayer8 ай бұрын
Starting the video now!! I avoided watching the official mtg videos because I knew you would post one with the full story!!! Thank you!!!
@AetherHub8 ай бұрын
Well thanks for waiting on me buddy 😘
@jessiecushman99858 ай бұрын
The depth of this story was deeper than a puddle in the Sahara desert. My love for good stories and this game were left wanting with this iteration.
@starknight22628 ай бұрын
Hey Sieben, It's good to have you back and see you making videos again. I hope you are well rested and took some time to relax and enjoyed your time off from making videos and got everything settled in your personal life. I hope everything is better for you now my friend.
@AetherHub8 ай бұрын
Things are great on my end. Work and family just taking a bit more of my attention recently. Glad to be back with videos though ☺️
@nategraham69468 ай бұрын
Such a shame that Tolsimir died. He is one of my favorite characters of Selesnya. Also odd that Selesnya/Trostani would be the guilty person/guild. While there can be some bits that make sense, based on the story as is, said points don’t make full sense. How can 1/3 of Trostani actually keep so much from the other 2/3? How was she able to do so much on her own at all?
@MrABK1086 ай бұрын
Maybe we will see a golgari Tolsimir? 🤞🏻
@natanoj162 ай бұрын
To me it makes sense as Selesnya has always felt the most oppressive and mindcontrolling like the Phyrexian just with 'kindness' instead of pure forces
@darkabel16jose8 ай бұрын
Damn it. I really liked Tolsimir, such a cool and loyal guy.
@raydelmartinez29058 ай бұрын
I got to say, this story was a bit messy 😅. Judith also committed a crime and captured a boros member but was not arrested. Massacre girl was captured trying to kill Aurelia but later seen trying to kill the main detective. And worst, Trostani uses polen that gives better mind control than blue mages 😂.
@AetherHub8 ай бұрын
The way I structured the video was a little disjointed. I first followed Kaya and then Proft. But these events sort of happened in tandem. But yes in essence a lot of Ravnica Guild laws were broken and sort of left just hanging out there lol
@raydelmartinez29058 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great narrative as always.
@AetherHub8 ай бұрын
And thank you as always!
@hoagie92098 ай бұрын
im still trying to figure out if these planes have giant trash piles of dead phyrexians or whatever happened to all these robot corpses
@juancastaneda93716 ай бұрын
Recently started watching your content. These lore and story videos are so engaging. Thank you!
@skraddypoo8 ай бұрын
Man, I enjoyed the hell out of this story. Thanks man! No doubt the algorithm has screwed you because "murder" is in the title, but I'll tell you right now, this summary was a delight. Thank you!
@AetherHub8 ай бұрын
Hey I really appreciate that! And you’re probably right. Didnt think about the title lll
@mega2009man8 ай бұрын
Big quotes on "devastation" of the war, seeing how we didn't see much of any of it. Ravnica is one of the least seen. After the cut content from War of the Spark, I didn't think it'd happen to the same degree. This time, the cut content was multiplied Cutting Niv-Mizzet out of his literal job to reign in war between guilds. Aurelia was way out of line and he would've stopped her. Seems they got something against the dragon
@AetherHub8 ай бұрын
This was my biggest issue with the story. This was Niv Mizzets first real chance to shine in his new role… and we got nothing.
@mega2009man8 ай бұрын
@@AetherHub Niv-Mizzet hasn't shown in his new role since before WAR. He's been cut out of the story in every way despite our numerous returns to this plane. Quite frankly, as a huge Niv fan, this is unacceptable. This "RAMI" is nothing but an interference in his role. I wish Anzrag was successful
@Case2_08 ай бұрын
The next story arc is called the Dragonstorm Arc. They are saving him for something
@torreydunn70348 ай бұрын
Thank you for this one. Always excited to listen to The lore before I dive into the set.
@mrrbb20288 ай бұрын
Perfect morning enjoying breakfast to your video. Can only be a good day 👍🏽
@AetherHub8 ай бұрын
I hope you have a great day! And thanks for enjoying the content
@SmugLookingBarrel8 ай бұрын
Honestly, the issue I had with this set is that knowing it's a story and knowing how murder mysteries are written kind of ruins it. I immediately had the Dimir and the Rakdos ruled out simply because that would be too obvious, and in the end they went with the most obvious answer... given the way murder mystery stories work, where the culprit is the least obvious suspect.
@mr.joesterr53598 ай бұрын
Or not just least obvious, its the one that makes the least amount of sense for the sake of trying to be different. Its like a 3rd graders attempt to write a murder mystery after reading their 1st sherlock holmes book lol
@natanoj162 ай бұрын
@@mr.joesterr5359really? I always felt like Selesnya was the most uncomfortable and oppressive guild, and they always felt like a mind controlling hive like the Phyrexians to me. Though I always thought mtg would use them as a way to show the more 'positive' side of a hivemind-like situation.
@mr.joesterr53592 ай бұрын
@@natanoj16 Selesnya is about peace and love and being 'AGGRESSIVELY' vegan. Def not a hive mind either
@DeadAccountdotdotdot8 ай бұрын
It’s fascinating that wizards keeps pushing Kellan as a main character when he has zero (0) interesting qualities.
@thomaspetrucka91738 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree! You read the stories and he’s basically just a wooden board that does what he’s told to. That was fine as a nod to fairy tale tropes in WoE, but BOY did it stale quickly.
@jeremyalgood72305 ай бұрын
His story seems to be finished with OaTJ
@magic_claw3 ай бұрын
@@jeremyalgood7230And thank goodness for that.
@kawaiiLorenz1995Ай бұрын
Kelan gets more element affinity every time he comes back. Is he going to be a planes walker himself? Or is he going to save the day when Nicol Bolas returns?
@TKTigerkat8 ай бұрын
This was actually a really well written story. Apparently there is a hidden epilogue
@AetherHub8 ай бұрын
Hmmm I can’t wait to see that. I loved the adventure and the writing. 10 stories makes it wayyyyy better than simply 5. Still I like a grander story with Ravnica. But for what it was… it was enjoyable!
@PinkDevilFish7 ай бұрын
Hate they killed Teysa. Sure, she'll come back as a ghost because of course she will, but still hate it.
@cecil40318 ай бұрын
Great video as always
@AetherHub8 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@hefas8428 ай бұрын
Heres a quick theory the next version of Kellan we will see is gonna be dimir colors, aftwards a rakdos version, based around how he keeps changing one color at a time. Red/white, white/green and green/blue has allready been used so blue/Black is the next logical version
@MackAttack-vh1vz8 ай бұрын
Awesome vid!
@jeffreyweaver98547 ай бұрын
Alquist Proft- Ravnica's version of Sherlock Holmes.
@GoreDough923 ай бұрын
I've seen punts, and then I've seen Game #2. My lawd.
@TofuofLight8 ай бұрын
I expected Lazav the show up, shapeshift a mustache to twirl and be like “keikaku, it was me all along!!!!!” But this was definitely an interesting story. Im glad magic is taking a break from constant apocalyptic events and just have more low key stories.
@natanoj162 ай бұрын
Yea. I really miss all the small stories showing life on the new planes. Think the Tarkir Sets were my favorite for this reason. Not only did we get stories from every group, we also got the stories set in the perspective of how the big plot changed everything. (My favorite being the with/without dragons stories of the faction leaders like Narset
@marcelphillip12398 ай бұрын
How bad have the Mtg lore became. But your videos are amazing Seiben...
@danielbloomquist98108 ай бұрын
Frivulty? That ain't it, mahdewd. Frivolity: Frih-VAH-leh-tee
@TheSushiandme8 ай бұрын
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've been waiting 😂😂😂
@AetherHub8 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoy :)
@TheWcasey8 ай бұрын
I enjoyed listening to the story. Imagined it all happened in Noir style.
@bh99708 ай бұрын
I sometimes wonder if they write these stories in a day.
@bh99708 ай бұрын
I do dig your videos no matter the quality of the story. Thanks
@caseywest24306 ай бұрын
Why did Ova try to kill Aurelia? And what was the Phyrexian note near Tesa?
@jeremyalgood72305 ай бұрын
They did my boy Agrus dirty.
@KellyGraves6663 ай бұрын
Girlboss Dryad tbh. Also did Judith forget what happened to the last person who tried to take over Rakdos?
@DayDior157 ай бұрын
lore video on voja on how he became naya colors👀
@jaderichardson64617 ай бұрын
Although it makes sense to be WU I think Proft should’ve been colourless or 5c or at the very least not 2c. He’s meant to be neutral in guild related matters but is a ravnican WU? Sounds pretty bound to azorious to me.
@thomaskretz78888 ай бұрын
Tessa, Opulent Oligarch
@asahi437 ай бұрын
Is the opening music you chose unlicensed or did you lift it from Knowing Better?
@AetherHub7 ай бұрын
It’s a free use song as authorized by its creator - loads of channels use it
@Case2_08 ай бұрын
Hooray!
@AetherHub8 ай бұрын
Thanks buddy !!
@adarklight5058 ай бұрын
After this shallow mess of a story, im not excited for our new western set coming up. Wotc pretty much watched a buddy cop drama and just changed names. There is nothing clever or original in this entire story. For me the most cringe part is when Aurelia gives them 24 hours to solve the case or else.These are the things that make me miss blocks and novels. I can't wait for "This town ain't big enough for the both of us", "High Noon", and other low hanging fruit...sigh.
@AetherHub8 ай бұрын
You KNOW that’s coming. Good or bad I’m here to bring the story in a digestible way for fans. I agree. I very much miss the old block formats :(
@nategraham69468 ай бұрын
What color is Kellan supposed to be? He was white first, then white/red, now blue/green.
@thomaspetrucka91738 ай бұрын
I think it was White/Red, White/Green, and now Green/Blue. I’ll bet it’s to reflect how he just kind of goes along with what’s happening wherever he is, but it does feel weird, doesn’t it?
@nategraham69468 ай бұрын
@@thomaspetrucka9173 Agreed. Usually when a character changes a color it is just one, with one primary one sticking around. Take Nissa. Always green, but has added blue or black at certain points. Or Ajani, always white but added red or now typically green.
@bennygairns22357 ай бұрын
Selesnya got off way too easy
@klaizloveswoofs8 ай бұрын
Yayyyyy more lore!!!
@STS-qi1qy8 ай бұрын
In case anyone was confused the scene with Massacre Girl and Proft chronologically comes before the scene of MG and Aurelia. MG was in her right mind (comparatively speaking, at least) and working under contract when she went after Proft. She was pollen-controlled when she went after Aurelia.
@keyne4448 ай бұрын
Why OF COURSE it was SELESNYA. No-one would ever imagine that factions known for the shadiest of deals would do it. Why is it that it's always the Selesnyans always want to destroy the world they want to protect? It stinks of lack of imagination to me. And Tolsimir's end was pathetic.
@AetherHub8 ай бұрын
Tolsimirs death was sad. He’s been such a great figure on Ravnica. And his fervent loyalty to his guild just had him die for… nothing.
@keyne4448 ай бұрын
@@AetherHub But isn't it very odd for the guild who was known for the best of intentions and CHARITY for the citizenry, once nearly genocided the whole city, then was the first to gather an army to secure the guild pact in the Dragon's Maze and win by any means necessary, and now THIS? I know Selsenya is cultish but this smells like bullying. I love Selesnya but man.... Same with Odric. I listened to the story the other day. The guy was such in important figure, but wasn't even half as relevant as he had been when he got vamp'd. He should've been at the wedding crashing it and instilling the fear for Avacyn in those who had forgotten it. But... it was just Sorin who suddenly felt like compassion and the gals doing all the work.
@Unrated138 ай бұрын
I still must say that if they had a TV series tied to the game this set would have done way better. Your video made me want to buy a box!
@metalcowboy30007 ай бұрын
Next set, back to Kaldheim?
@arsenalfish218 ай бұрын
Is the name Karlov Manor a reference to the horror actor Boris Karloff?
@samwisegamegeek8 ай бұрын
No.
@overknox65588 ай бұрын
The emrakul on innistrad was a better mistery
@samwisegamegeek8 ай бұрын
You mean the eldrazi. Emrakul is one creature
@cynicgamer128 ай бұрын
Stereotyping my poor Rakdos lads and lasses. Rakdos is innocent…of this crime at least.
@thomash23117 ай бұрын
Video starts at 1.50
@coopervaughter14408 ай бұрын
Is Proft Jace?
@lethalsandwhich8 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed the quality of this video and the narration provided. I didnt like the overall story, but you didn't make that.
@Buchaus8 ай бұрын
Tessa
@AnthonyDaFox8 ай бұрын
First Jurassic park now Clue...Whats next MTG is gonna make a Crossover with My Little Pony or Candyland? WTF is wrong with WOTC?
@AetherHub8 ай бұрын
Uhhhh who’s gonna tell em… My Little Pony already had crossover with MTG 😳
@AnthonyDaFox8 ай бұрын
@@AetherHub Ok Let me alter it. Whats next are they gonna Collab with Shadowrun? Hmmm?
@mortimerreed8 ай бұрын
@@AnthonyDaFox wouldn't that just be neon dynasty?
@mega2009man8 ай бұрын
@@AnthonyDaFox Magic is being used to promote Hasbro properties, it seems 😮💨
@thomaspetrucka91738 ай бұрын
@@AetherHub It didn’t stop them from the transformers commanders we got a little while ago. I wouldn’t put it past them-although it’s probably less likely now that the whole Brony thing is behind us. If that were still going strong I have no doubt Wizards would have already pounced on that.
@kiritokaguya91808 ай бұрын
All guildleaders have some much sparetime 😅 each controlling a guild going into the millions propably. Live must be easy for all of them with this much time on hands
@AetherHub8 ай бұрын
Lmfao yeahhhh totally
@XvaleckX8 ай бұрын
Yo
@RealBakedTahu8 ай бұрын
First.
@AetherHub8 ай бұрын
Grats!!!
@Madgunner1178 ай бұрын
5th
@movieguy17008 ай бұрын
Terrible story Terrible art Terrible set But still, thanks for the video
@AetherHub8 ай бұрын
Of course, you’re welcome! Despite your misgivings with the story, I still hope to record it and present it for future fans of the game :)
@movieguy17008 ай бұрын
@@AetherHub bad or not l, history still needs to be recorded, I will continue to watch your vids
@jimmyherold13428 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, but this story is dumb.
@cedricroney14758 ай бұрын
Why are females the leads and heroes of every magic story? Whats up with that?
@HermitGamerTengu8 ай бұрын
What's wrong with it?
@cedricroney14758 ай бұрын
@@HermitGamerTengu It's imbalanced and sends a false message of women being braver and more righteous than men.
@cedricroney14757 ай бұрын
What a lame ass ending. They always go easy on the females
@Yourbeautiful6667 ай бұрын
What a stupid story. Once again another Disney style magic story where real actions never accompany real consequences.