Mureka AI: Different from Suno and Udio?

[@LanewoodStudios]

So let me know your thoughts on Mureka AI. And if you like it, click the link to sign up for Mureka and get free credits to try it out! bit.ly/3BNNYp5

[@jeffthompson1869]

It sounds like a slightly weaker version of Suno. The vocals sound synthetic to me. Udio is phenomenal on vocals.

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@jeffthompson1869when it comes to Suno and Udio yes I think the vocals in Udio are better. I think Suno writes better songs than Udio though. As for Mureka, they are still developing but have some unique features that make sense to me. Let’s see where they go next.

[@edwardnorton8065]

i tried one song, the lyrics generator was too small (2000 characters), and the voice changer was only selecting pop, edm, jazz, hip hop instead of rock which i couldn't find,so no i wouldn't want to listen to a voice different to my preferred.

[@LanewoodStudios]

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[@Sheldyck]

I don't want a completed song, I want a band member. 'Here's the guitar part I wrote, please supply the bassist's part'

[@LanewoodStudios]

That’s a cool idea actually, especially for music production. We may get there sooner than you expect!

[@slawaschwed]

Toontrack?

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@slawaschwed the drums on that self produced track? I think it was yes.

[@slawaschwed]

@@LanewoodStudios Toontrack's "Audio Tracker" makes both drums and bass, it's also an "AI" process ))

[@timbeneton8068]

exactly

[@alientse1195]

I’m all here for the melody idea feature! It’s like me and AI seating in the same room to create something really me❤

[@LanewoodStudios]

Exactly!

[@johnswanson582]

I’m using Suno AI now but I will definitely give this a try. I think it sounds really good. I like some of the different ways I can suggest a song’s creation.

[@LanewoodStudios]

Yes give it a go 👍

[@JohnMurphy-w2n]

Great run through of this software, thank you

[@LanewoodStudios]

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[@billionairesjourney3905]

OMG this is not just a game changer..this is a miracle 😊

[@LanewoodStudios]

You sound like a thumbnail 😉

[@mybookreviewsnow]

In the Mureka licensing model, there is a possibility that the platform still has some rights to your work, or can use your work according to its terms of service. This is different from full ownership, where all rights are in your hands.

[@StratsRUs]

I'd love my own melodies, lyrics and voice to be input and then used to morph etc. I like to think that is not too far away. I have excellent results on Donna AI with my own lyrics from my own songs after regenerating a few times.

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@StratsRUs haven’t tried that one yet.

[@elnidogaming]

Fantastic video! So, with all the research you’ve done, if you had to choose between Mureka, Suno, and Udio, which one would be your top pick and why? Briefly please. Thank you. 🙏

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@elnidogaming thank you. I like Mureka for their different approach but they do have some catching up to do of course. Of the big ones (Suno/Udio) I like Suno best because it just writes better songs (to me).

[@elnidogaming]

@LanewoodStudios Thank you for your response. I was on the fence, but I'm getting a subscription to Suno! 👍

[@stevencasteel]

Udio is the best right now. My page is a testament to this.

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@stevencasteel they do have the best voices I think. I like the songs that Suno comes up with better though but it’s also a taste thing of course 😉.

[@aaghardan2832]

​@@LanewoodStudios yess udio is better for quality, but for melody output I prefer suno

[@BestVideosSkynet]

The most missing part in Suno is separation of tracks (bass, vocals, drums, lead line) without is a fun toy but with separation it could be really time-saving tool

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@BestVideosSkynet yes that would be great 🤞.

[@scruffyalice-ff5pz]

Suno has stem separation.

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@scruffyalice-ff5pz yes but not like mentioned above. Only vocals and instrument stems and the quality is not great. Same as when using a third party stem separation application.

[@Overtourdriver1]

Search with Google or here You Tube for RipX DAW

[@IGRETRO]

The main question is - can you upload and make your own voice? Instead of just limited list of voices

[@LanewoodStudios]

At the moment not yet. But seems like a good update.

[@mackyadventureaimusic1]

I am a new user of Mureka It definitely is nice . It gives me a great song i wanted.

[@LanewoodStudios]

Great!

[@ghuinink]

i'm happy they still sound like very bad mp3 but it is still impressive

[@LanewoodStudios]

Yes we can still improve on this in our studios 😉.

[@slawaschwed]

great stuff

[@LanewoodStudios]

Thanks!

[@takeroma_media_press]

Can someone tell me which format of a cover photo is when you are releasing a song on mureka platform because they are just telling me , "image format is incorrect" have tried PNG, Jpeg, pdf all showing the same

[@LanewoodStudios]

I have not used that myself but maybe someone else has the answer for you.

[@exitthelemming145]

The results certainly sound like the sort of 'professional song' we're used to hearing in mainstream popular music but it seems self evident that if the source materials are from historical analysis there can never be any real innovation?

[@LanewoodStudios]

I don't know. Are most of us not doing similar things as human songwriters?

[@Bartetmedia]

I want to add AI vocals to my instrumental club track in the key of the track. Anyone knows what app does that?

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@Bartetmedia perhaps try Audimee!

[@user-qv5tw5fl4v]

Could you recommend app that can generate good quality pronunciation if lyrics are written on different languages then English?

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@user-qv5tw5fl4v I haven’t really tried lyrics in other languages than English myself but maybe someone else has some more experience with this.

[@GoodBaleadaMusic]

I do all languages with Udio and before Suno. I think Im like the pioneer of all this.

[@ShiatsuShinTaiInternational]

Is there an ai program where you can enter a complete song and have it produce and master with complete instrumentation?

[@group-music]

Suno can do that.

[@fabiofanelli6030]

If had a "my voice" generated model, was almost perfect..!

[@bobbyboyderecords]

Lots of programs can do that. Split vocal stems the use something like ace studio

[@HindRocks]

when u played the first song..t was so so very close to john lenon`s imagine....am i the only one who felt like that?

[@LanewoodStudios]

Didn't notice that myself before!

[@kennethlua4928]

Thanks for the informative video Does the Ownership Certificate give you the right to use a Content ID on KZbin? Can I distribute via DistroKid instead?

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@kennethlua4928 you can just register it as your own song.

[@kennethlua4928]

BTW, I only got 6 credits to play with, total I don’t get 6 credits per day

[@AINashville]

I don't like the way it cuts off songs and in order to extend the track you have to be subscribed to the more expensive subscription.

[@LanewoodStudios]

I guess the free plan is for giving it a try only.

[@AINashville]

@@LanewoodStudios I didn't even get to try 1 song. The subscription thing popped up. It's real good though, I really like the sound. I figured I would try it for one month.

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@AINashville 👍

[@Maax_555]

Hmm, could be a game changer for me. I write my owns songs but sadly can’t sing very well. The tone of my voice is terrible. If I can sing in the melody or even better upload only the melody track played on piano and that would churn out my lyrics in the given melody, that would very desirable. I already suggested the same feature to Suno before I came across this. I’ve not seen guitar, bass and drum stems downloadable before so that’s another interesting addition. I would go a step further and have midi files for each instrument downloadable. Finally it’s a must that the vocal stem be downloadable without effects.

[@LanewoodStudios]

you could also check out Audimee to replace your vocal track with a voice that you like better. But that does not generate the rest of the song.

[@Maax_555]

The price plans are completely incorrect. You show basic to include wav, instrument and stem audios. This is notbthe case. This is £30 pm on monthly plan and no trial. Sorry that's too much I would have happily paid £10 or perhaps £15. Please let them know as I can't see a contact email address on the site. Very disappointing

[@LanewoodStudios]

I showed the website at the time. Maybe they changed it since.

[@thomlev5217]

can i uploacan i had my own beat to make the app create a voice on it

[@g.o.4387]

3:06 that sounds like Imagine by John Lennon

[@LanewoodStudios]

Someone else mentioned that as well.

[@nolow_life]

14:10 this version was great!

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@nolow_life 👍😎

[@Sketchup-fe6ef]

Seems more random music, but they should give people more credit to test as a couple of song will not get many people to realise its unique features. Suno is very rhymey and every thing seems the same after a while using it.

[@LanewoodStudios]

Good point.

[@johnwinslow8841]

Anyone know what is the maximum length of a song that Mureka AI can generate?

[@LanewoodStudios]

I don’t but maybe someone else can help you.

[@Bible_meditation_101]

Mureka claims you can release the song on platforms for sale but the cover photo cannot upload all the format PNG, jpeg and pdf are declined what format are they accepting?

[@LanewoodStudios]

Not sure. Someone else had the same question. Maybe someone else knows.

[@evieruth01]

Can you export the stems as midi ?

[@LanewoodStudios]

I did not see that option at the moment. You would have to generate the stems in Mureka and then convert those to midi in another program.

[@evieruth01]

Shame all audio to midi still sucks

[@evieruth01]

@@LanewoodStudios just be handy to customise it more and take it back to basics

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@evieruth01yes it would be very useful if you want to re-produce these tracks.

[@evieruth01]

@@LanewoodStudios Ja it’s been to much like cheating for me unless I can full fully customise it from the bare bones , I know what you think played it ur self but I’m only a singer but with loads of ideas !

[@MindBodySynergyllc]

This is so much better than Udio or Suno, OMG, this is the best AI music generator !!!!

[@LanewoodStudios]

Which aspects make it so much better for you?

[@jplater9191]

There’s nothing like making music together. Besides it’s still very much like a copy of a copy of an original…if you listen carefully.

[@LanewoodStudios]

Sure, and I'm sure that will always stay during rehearsals and sessions with my band. But I for one spend many more hours in the studio by myself and then it's a great way to generate some quick ideas that may be worthwhile to further develop.

[@EnhanceYourJourney]

Can you download a video from Mureka?

[@LanewoodStudios]

I think it's all about audio at this time!

[@zabist2938]

Lol if you ref one of their metal songs, i can hear clearly Marilyn Manson on that track. I would assume they don't have coyprights about him...

[@LanewoodStudios]

Interesting, which MM song are you hearing in which example?

[@majesticloops]

I have yet to see anything beat Stable Audio

[@LanewoodStudios]

Tried that a while ago in combination with RipX DAW. Was not too impressed at the time. Suno was really the first one that seemed usable to me. But maybe Stable Audio has improved as well.

[@danielb9892]

@@LanewoodStudios For basic tracks Stable Audio is not very good, but it really came alive when I used longer description, for example a 500 character description of a cinematic ambient/dramatic drum piece worked really well. Stable Audio/Udio are about crafting the perfect prompt.

[@majesticloops]

@@LanewoodStudios suno quality is very good , if they can increase the prompt characters limit from 120 and 200 to around 500 to 800 with the same quality then that will be a good leap forward

[@mybookreviewsnow]

Mureka does not provide full rights because their model is license-based, which limits users from having absolute control over the work. If you want clear full ownership without restrictions or dependencies, Mureka can be considered a gray area.

[@LanewoodStudios]

Not sure where you read that because I’m reading something else in 3 (e) the first sentence for a paid subscription: www.mureka.ai/terms

[@mybookreviewsnow]

@@LanewoodStudios hehhehe...you delete my reply...ok than...

[@LanewoodStudios]

@mybookreviewsnow Of course I did not delete any replies. Maybe KZbin did because it cannot contain a link, or contain inappropriate wording. I’m the only one that can post links on my channel I’m afraid. I also don't see your comment as held back and needing my approval so I think it just got flat out rejected by KZbin. Maybe try again?

[@Jacestro]

vocals sound great although it stole if i could rule the world by coldplay , udios great very short songs like 30 seconds but doesnt extend well and does not to stick to lyrics this is alot better at sticking to lyrics

[@LanewoodStudios]

Glad you liked it!

[@wojciechjastrzebski5572]

I don't like when my song is too short. In SUNO one song can to be long for 4 minutes

[@LanewoodStudios]

Yes it took them a while to get there as well though 😉.

[@wojciechjastrzebski5572]

@@LanewoodStudios Despite this, I did a lot of songs at SUNO, from symphonies to rock. With and without vocals. I love guitar solos.

[@LanewoodStudios]

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[@isham16]

Thanks for the video, what is the situation regarding rights with the paid subscription ?

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@isham16 according to Mureka they’re yours.

[@isham16]

Thank you, I find this site quite interesting so I will give it a try . Thank you for this well organized review.

[@fattyboombatty7736]

Where is the bit where you actually enjoy making music?

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@fattyboombatty7736 when you reproduce these tracks with real instruments.

[@jzznup8664]

So what part do you play? Oh, that's right, you play the none musician with no pride.

[@LanewoodStudios]

I’m a guitar player in my band Awash whose music I produce as well.

[@zekeriyaokumusoglu9612]

Bir şarki yaparken şarkının ritmini biz seçelim melodiyi kendimiz seçelim.sesleri biz seçelim.veya amatör mp3 kaydini verelim o kendi profesyonel çalsın bizim sesi klonlasin

[@LanewoodStudios]

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[@alexoneprject]

yea, fk it, no free credits :( .. maybe when they change the plans to some free credits .. there is NO FREE PLAN! .. only 2 plans, both with payment

[@ladislaufazakas8980]

The problem arises since these AI programs have the right to release copyrights for sounds? They appear overnight as gods with full rights in music who ask for money, that will never happen guys :)

[@LanewoodStudios]

It’s all relatively new so we’ll see how it develops in the future.

[@ladislaufazakas8980]

@@LanewoodStudios I don't care about their development, i wonder what they dreamed of thinking that they have the right to offer licenses to songs. Is there a global music department that gives companies the right to decide what music is authentic and release usage rights to producers? They appear overnight and ask for money as if the music is an object and belongs to them, it looks more like a scam.

[@ladislaufazakas8980]

@@LanewoodStudios They can no longer make money with plugins, now they come up with this AI nonsense. How stupid they can be to say that they have the right to license music as if they invented music lol.

[@LanewoodStudios]

Well if you write a song the copyright is automatically yours. You can register it so you have a record of it but the copyright of anything you create is automatically yours. What the AI music generators are saying that if you ‘create’ a song using their tooling the copyright is still yours if you are a paying subscriber. If you are not paying they keep the copyright of the song. This is all separate of the discussion that their AI was probably trained on copyrighted music to begin with. But if you yourself listen to a copyrighted song, are inspired by it and create something similar, the copyright is still yours. Unless you have directly ripped of the melody or something. That is why there discussions are so difficult.

[@ladislaufazakas8980]

@@LanewoodStudios The only place he could survive these AI algoritms would be in daws, Logic has an algorithm that generates the elements from the root and lets you edit them in all their depth. It is much healthier to put element upon element to build your own story than to receive a final result of poor quality like here, the quality of the song made with Logic in 15 minutes is net superior and the most important thing is something real that comes from you. Cubase lets you use any sound from Mediabay in the key and musicality of the project if you're really just starting out and don't know how to make your own samples.

[@alejandrofernandez3478]

The copyright terms are very bad. No clear permission to distribute free tier works and anything you upload is theirs too

[@LanewoodStudios]

Well I think all AI platforms do not allow you to commercially distribute free tier generations. You have to pay for that first. But then you have commercial rights, is how I read it.

[@alejandrofernandez3478]

​@@LanewoodStudiosI didn't mean commercially. Suno allows you to distribute basic tier stuff as long as it isn't monetised

[@LanewoodStudios]

@alejandrofernandez3478 ah ok, then I understand what you mean.

[@iangillan1296]

there is no free plan anymore actually...

[@iangillan1296]

i used 2 free credits and it made two audios that are completely have nothing to do with my descripsion... I tried to make a EDM song, and received one pop shitty "song" and one shitty hip-hop "song" . LMAO

[@bratan007]

@@iangillan1296 Same here... :(

[@lumpielump3576]

this one is really bad compared to Suno and Udio - it doesn´t even care about the music style you type - the results are totally unmusical nonsense - a waist of time.

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@lumpielump3576 did you try with a reference track, which is really their main way of prompting?

[@lumpielump3576]

@@LanewoodStudios no, I didn´t. will try it - thanks

[@Lia_T]

Well, if it relies on a reference track to produce good output why even have the other options or basic mode. All I got on basic or using other prompts was the opposite of the style I had selected, a jumble of words that didn't follow the lyrics, and out of tune vocals. Disappointed after my first tries. But I'll try the reference track option and see if that changes my mind.

[@DmitryIvanovDfcreative]

Mureka seems like a piece of Chinese ... low-quality product. Tried uploading my reference song and the page just hangs.

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@DmitryIvanovDfcreative that’s annoying. Did not get that myself but there may be still a big then. Maybe your uploaded file was much bigger than the ones I tried.

[@DJGALAXY-y2w]

Quality is Bad.

[@LanewoodStudios]

As with the other services, I'm sure it will improve over time.

[@voditel_taxi]

My top 20 ai music kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGOqdH5rZciee5osi=vJV0UCfA9BTgzIMm

[@LanewoodStudios]

Thanks for sharing!

[@crmusicproduction]

Fantastic video! If you're considering AI music tools, a heads-up: Mureka is overpriced rubbish with terrible sound quality. I made a rant comparing it to Udio, which is way better-worth checking out if you're curious! kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2rKqHx9Ys1podk

[@LanewoodStudios]

Thanks for your comparison. I probably prefer Suno myself (compared to Udio) as I feel it comes up with better songs. And the recent V4 update made the vocals better as well.

[@wmvaux]

It looked so promising, but delivered crap. If I want Metal, I don't want Punk or Indie styles that it comes up with. 6 free isn't enough if it doesn't give you anything you like. It needs exclusions, things you don't want it to add. Oh well, that's the 5th Music Ai I've seen and so far the worst. Combine MusicFX and Mureka and it might start getting somewhere decent.

[@LanewoodStudios]

I think their text promoting is relatively new so maybe still needs some improvement. Their main way of prompting is by providing reference audio.

[@Trescaracterescomominimo]

Mureka souds like Suno. Not Very HiFi.

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@Trescaracterescomominimo yes I can understand what you mean.

[@RichDettmer]

Just a note: For an explainer video like this, youi spend way too much time on camera talking. Show the thing, don't talk about it. If you want to stroke your ego and be on camera, do a pod-cast video.

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@RichDettmer thanks for the tip but this style seems to be ok for my audience, also providing some context. Maybe this channel is not for you, or you need shorts?

[@RichDettmer]

@ ok. Obviously it’s not you. It’s me. I’ll go soak in some low intelligence shorts to match my low attention span. Please continue to enjoy the sound of your own voice.

[@LanewoodStudios]

@@RichDettmer you came on pretty strong with your opinion so I answered likewise 😉. Let’s just say we have different opinions on this. No right or wrong. Take care.

[@djglantz]

Unfortunately the sound and vocal quality from this platform is poor.

[@LanewoodStudios]

They started late so are sure to improve as well.

[@djglantz]

@@LanewoodStudios Well, yes, I understand that, but in the meantime SUNO will be much much further ahead. But it's good that there is a choice, it's a chance that these platforms will try harder.🙂