This video examines the number rookie mistake in tree falling: the unintentional bypass Dutchman.
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@yacobshelelshaddai45437 ай бұрын
It’s as simple as that. Perfectly explained, well done. Literally saving lives with a video like this good stuff. 👍
@Jonathanengr Жыл бұрын
I'm a "professional homeowner", and I do a decent amount of clearing in the woods around my house. I've taken a few safety courses in tree cutting, but this is the *first time* I have seen a clear and comprehensive diagram of what causes a barber chair and the physics behind why it happens. It's made me realize that I'm pretty lucky I haven't had this happen to me before. Thank you so much for taking the time to put this information together and share it with others.
@murphy4trees Жыл бұрын
same for me.. I cut one and watched it and only found out years later why
@JohnnyIDive37 Жыл бұрын
what is a professional home owner?
@TheToolnut Жыл бұрын
An unintentional bypass on the gob is only one reason a barber chair may accour.
@user-se9im4vs8l10 ай бұрын
@@JohnnyIDive37I was gonna ask that lol
@murphy4trees8 ай бұрын
@@TheToolnut definetly... I AM going to write about it...
@Vikingwerk8 ай бұрын
Wow, an actual explanation of what, why, and how to avoid. In only a few minutes, rather than 15 minutes blabbing. You are a national treasure!
@murphy4trees8 ай бұрын
I know what you'r talking about.. it gets tiring...
@hippymoustacherides7 ай бұрын
Probably not worth watching a long explanation to stay safe. Have fun out there slugger.
@Iatolaazzahola16 күн бұрын
You sir, just saved a number of lives with this precise info. Thanks for the clear description of a Dutchman and what it can cause. Bravo!
@unclemoe57338 ай бұрын
As a retired tree Superviser, i can say this is a very well explained tutorial. Their are way too many inexperienced tree workers out there that have no idea what a Barberchair senario is! Great job!
@murphy4trees8 ай бұрын
ya.. many have never seen one... and I'll bet there's been more than a few deaths from BC where the person hadno idea what just happened to the tree...
@unclemoe57338 ай бұрын
Yes, i was almost one of them! Fortunately for me, the 20" Ash decides to fail on the opposite side of where i was cutting it. Me and my whole crew were speechless when it happened. I would have been driven into the ground like a nail. Never had any idea it could happen back then. Their was little education about it at that time.
@jimmyb2078 ай бұрын
I’ve seen a lot of videos on tree falling. They would talk about getting rid of the Dutchman, but never once explained what the hell it is. Now I know. Over the last 20 years, I’ve probably cut down close to 100 cords of firewood. 90% of it red oak. I now know that I have fallen trees with a Dutchman in the notch…many times. Never had a barber chair because of luck or tree species, but it does explain the behavior of the falling tree at times. Like the video, I’ve had a few start to fall then stop just like your video and never realized there was a barber chair danger. Wow. I always thought that risk was confined to leaners. Now I will be more attentive and make sure there is no Dutchman and remove it if there is. Thank you so much.
@sgtfish492 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you.
@mr.dr.k3148 Жыл бұрын
Dang, glad that guy didn't get hit. Very comprehensive video regarding the dangers of A Barber Chair and breaking it down so as to understand the root cause and not make this mistake. Great Job.
@WeGoWalk8 ай бұрын
I took the 30-video tree-felling course on KZbin published by a Canadian tree-felling company, and they showed something similar to this regarding avoiding a Barber-Chair mishap. You did a great job with your drawings and video demonstration!
@murphy4trees8 ай бұрын
Do they use much video from real tree jobs or is it all stages and mocked up?
@mariosebastiani32148 ай бұрын
Very well explained. I see 2 errors there: the first one, causing the barber chair. The second, running away with the chainsaw instead of dropping it instantly.
@Trevor-ps2oe2 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I've seen a demonstration, or heard an explanation of the consequences of cutting a Dutchman. I've heard a lot about not doing it and now that has been explained. Very informative and useful. Thanks.
@user-ty1iv6ot7j8 ай бұрын
I wish more videos were as brass tacks as this one. To the point critical knowledge to stay safe. Thank you.
@murphy4trees8 ай бұрын
no lack of information on my end.. don't know why these guys have to ramble on endlessly..
@davidcooke8005 Жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation. I have a cottonwood leaning over my driveway. What I learned from this video is to just hire someone competent, I don't wanna die any time soon.
@timothy242878 ай бұрын
Cottonwoods are extremely prone to barber chair. I had one go on me a few years ago and now wrap them with a ratchet strap for insurance.
@matttown4251Ай бұрын
This is the best explanation I’ve ever seen about why a barber chair occurs and how to avoid it. Great job! Thanks!!!
@murphy4treesАй бұрын
my pleasure
@sgt_kissekatt66867 ай бұрын
A few days ago I was taught by a friends father how to fell trees. He never mention "dutchman cut", but did make sure that I didnt over cut one side when making the wedge. I wasnt quite sure why, but always checked that I didnt overcut and if so I corrected. Now I know what have a potential of happening if you dont! Thx, very good video!
@user-df6wx9ke6d8 ай бұрын
Good job, people need to understand the danger in tree falling. Thanks for the knowledge, and love to see more.
@murphy4trees8 ай бұрын
Thanks, there's pleny out there.. just got to look around
@Mike-jn2es2 ай бұрын
Life saver. Especially with the sawdust remarks. Literally life saving info
@garettstahl8 ай бұрын
Im a farmer primarily but do logging in winter. Ive fallen more trees then your average trees remover but less then your average logger. I had this happen once on a more recent timber track. I really like thus explanation and diagram. Having a better understanding now this video might save my life on the next stick I cut
@murphy4trees8 ай бұрын
good.. glas to hear it... amd no one except a logger has dropped as many trees as your average logger.. It looks like we're doing the same kind of work, but it's a much different game..
@bobcameron2310 ай бұрын
Best explanation of why a barber chair happens in simple terms. Great video example.
@murphy4trees10 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@pinecone50582 жыл бұрын
Explained well, easy to understand, and it only takes a few minutes to clean up notch, to avoid any accidents, thanks for your time
@hjy1709 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful with exellent demonstrations and pictures.
@michaelswope28638 ай бұрын
When a swinging Dutchman or some other cut is required on a tree that is prone to barber chairing and you really need to avoid the split in the wood (causing you’re using it for lumber) use heavy ratchet straps on the log above your cut. The tension keeps the fibers together. I’ve never had a barber chair happen after I’ve strapped the tree.
@murphy4trees8 ай бұрын
ya, a strap is 100% effective as long as it's strong enough to keep th tree from splitting... if the trunk can't split, the tree cannot barber chair... Good cuttign technique will prevent most trees from BC< but a heavy front leaner with structural issues, the strap is the only way to be sure. I try to wrap it around two or three times, as many as possible for extra strength.
@winstonskafte55057 ай бұрын
you can also bore in cut the center leave side tabs of holding wood and cut back out as long as you dont have enough wood in the center to hold it from falling it wont barber chair but its kind of a learn as you go art , yes unintentional dutchman poor practice I had better luck chopping out a chunk of the wedge and reinserting it if I wanted to use dutchman to swing around now I guess they just jack .
@FatherOfTheParty Жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation of what causes a barber chair *and* why it's so important to have clean notches.
@Stannos_Adventures Жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation of the Dutchman! So clear and concise.
@Raul281538 ай бұрын
the best instructional I've ever seen on the topic
@murphy4trees8 ай бұрын
thank you... ;)
@chriscastle6832 жыл бұрын
Exceptional video:. Topic. Explanation. Example. Conclusion. Thank you. Good bye. We'll done. C
@teosinghsyiem942611 ай бұрын
short and beautiful explanation, CRYSTAL CLEAR . Thank you sir.
@murphy4trees11 ай бұрын
glad to know it works for you.
@JM-jd7yp Жыл бұрын
Good video on a very important subject. Working with trees is all about precision and understanding the forces acting on the tree. You have explained this very well. Thank you.
@johndurant86872 жыл бұрын
Really good info here Daniel! Very good film work and diagrams. This kind of education will really help newbies advance quicker. Great job!
@lovelightcontinuum2 жыл бұрын
As clearly explained and illustrated description of this dangerous thing as I've seen. I've seen some of your other videos involving barber chair, which are excellent. This one however, emphasizes what causes it and how to avoid it, while the previous ones, for me at least, highlighted the dangers.
@XDWX5 ай бұрын
Im so glad you showed the diagram with how to correct this.
@JasonVladimir8 ай бұрын
Awesome illustration! Makes sense now! Thanks for sharing!
@murphy4trees8 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@robpotter13558 ай бұрын
Fantastic explanation, understood the physics coming into play and it seems so obvious afterwards, thank you.
@murphy4trees8 ай бұрын
There are many more things like that in this biz.. so few people really don't understand the "Why".. they just do it or even teacd it because that's the way it's always been done... I always look for the why.. once you understand the why, the door opens to a world of new possibilities
@robpotter13558 ай бұрын
@@murphy4trees weird you saying that, you sounded like me last week explaining how train brakes work to a new starter. Understanding is a mile apart from just doing. I’ve been felling trees for over 30 years and always made a neat face cut not understanding how important it actually is. Again, thank you
@btbb37268 ай бұрын
I very very rarely get involved in tree cutting and when I do it’s typically helping a friend. That said, I find these this video very interesting. It doesn’t hurt to learn something just in case. I think this video does very good of explaining - narration, graphics, video/stills - what is going on. 👍🏻
@terrancemccune1424 Жыл бұрын
I agree with the other commentary below , The most well explained and visual example of its subject on the net from a pro thank you
@murphy4trees Жыл бұрын
my pleasure
@fabzacres-blackcat2 жыл бұрын
A species that’s prone to barber chair may do so even IF perfect cutting techniques are employed especially if it has considerable lean / canopy weighted to one side, bore cuts are an option , however a robust strap / chain secured snugly about a foot above the back cut is the safest way to do the job imho. Even IF the holding fibers give way the strap/chain will “hold it all together”. I’ve split a shit ton of ash by hand and some of it is extremely easy to split , just “drop” the axe or maul on it and it splits in half … IF this is the case in the hinge (and forward leaning / heavy canopy ) it has a high probability of barber-chairing - even with PERFECT cutting technique let alone Dutchman bypass . It only takes a few minutes to secure the strap and potentially avoid an unpleasant situation
@samiam159007 Жыл бұрын
Can you link an example of the wrapping of the chain?
@@murphy4trees Awesome, that was great, Thanks Daniel!
@joco4488 Жыл бұрын
Best explanation I've seen to date!
@donready1198 ай бұрын
This old tree feller thanks you for showing my ignorance. I never worried if the notch was not perfect but no more!
@gregblackburn4280 Жыл бұрын
FINALLY! A video that seems to cover this well enough. Thank you Mr. Murphy!
@murphy4trees Жыл бұрын
happt to help bro!
@chaswarren7239 Жыл бұрын
Brilliantly explained. Thank you Daniel.
@murphy4trees11 ай бұрын
someone has to do it ;)
@smirkinatu55128 ай бұрын
Thank you for recording and posting this valuable educational video.
@murphy4trees8 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@lashlarue79244 ай бұрын
Best explanation I've ever seen. Great job, hats off to you.
@murphy4trees4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@johnhume54658 ай бұрын
I really found this upload very informative and helpful as I wondered what causes the barber chair scenario. Very well explained and easy to understand. Cheers.
@BobHerres8 ай бұрын
Wow. I was 1/2 way through your video, and I wasn't catching on. Then it hit me! That's phenomenal. If you had not replayed it three times, I would have had to do it myself 3x! I've never fully understood the barber chair causes, and I've never fully understood why, some cutters "brush out" the sawdust, after the first wedge cut.... Now, finally, all this makes sense. All this in less than 4 minutes. Thank you so much! /A New Subscriber.
@murphy4trees8 ай бұрын
Gopod to hear and welcome... there's a lot of good info here if you look around a while...
@joelasee17738 ай бұрын
Highly informative, great lesson. Thank you, another thing to keep at the front of thought when I'm making firewood.
@murphy4trees8 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@gwmgbwi2 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation. Really really well done sir. Comprehensive, short, interesting. Good job.
@Jop_Kop5 ай бұрын
Perfect explanation. Finally clear to me. Thanks
@murphy4trees5 ай бұрын
it all mkas sense when someone finally explains it... One of the reasons I can recognize it when I see it is because I've done it.. back before I knew better.
@lincolnprojectnemesis32533 ай бұрын
I have gotten away with inadvertently leaving a dutchman because I didnt understand what it was and worse yet, the potential hazard. Thank you for the clear explanation.
@dave_in_florida Жыл бұрын
Best explanation I have seen
@murphy4trees Жыл бұрын
me too.... and thanks!
@TLBF2 ай бұрын
Excellent video! Thanks for posting!
@DaBinChe Жыл бұрын
great example/demo, now I finally understand barber chair
@awkerper2 ай бұрын
Great film! I'm new to chainsaws and tree felling so I didn't know about the barber chair and mistakes to avoid when felling.
@1greenthumbgardeningtwba2 жыл бұрын
Hi Daniel, thanks for the quick and extremely good explanation. Awesome video. Thanks Scotty
@AgnesMariaL7 ай бұрын
Thanks! I've been doing a fair amount of falling since becoming a landowner, and somehow kind of instinctively always tried to avoid cutting too far when chunking out my pie pieces, but didn't think it would be a big deal if I did accidentally go too far. Seeing this, I'm gonna be even MORE careful!
@simonmills23752 ай бұрын
I understand now. Very well explained. Thank you
@jackmorrison82697 ай бұрын
Gotta love all these logging videos where they try to make it look like rocket science.
@johnnybrace Жыл бұрын
awesome simple explanation of physics in falling. be safe out there
@dan-dan-da-treeman9 ай бұрын
Exactly! Also I've seen a tree go almost 90° off the lay because of the bypass. He missed about an inch fiber on the side it fell.
@murphy4trees9 ай бұрын
Me too, though it was about 45 degrees and just a little bypass in the far corner filled with sawdust so I didn't notice it
@user-un5my5bw4j9 ай бұрын
This video really helped me and was straight to the point. Cutting down some white oaks and red oaks on my property that the gypsy moths got to before they go completely south on me punking around the outside like they will do. I didnt have any major barber chair occurrences but some very minute ones ruining first 5' of the first log or having split cracks in the center of the heart wood. Thank you for this
@murphy4trees9 ай бұрын
I have BC a couple knowing that wouold make the splitting for firewood easier, but only when I could finish the cut and induce the BC from a pull line set to heavy truck or loader... not worth risking being anywhere a tree when it BCs
@larryweinberg11918 ай бұрын
good illustrations to clarify narration. Most cutters in PNW that have stayed with it have close call stories with Red Alder.
@murphy4trees8 ай бұрын
right... would ahve been better to keep cutting if you were expecting the thing to split, but a bad face cut was still the culprit.
@freeplayfrank77366 ай бұрын
Good job explaining that. You probably saved someone's life already.
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking22597 ай бұрын
Great explanation, I'm gonna pay more attention to this and chack out more of your videos.
@FromSteelToWood6 ай бұрын
Thank you very much, very well explained! Although I never experienced any barber chair with falling leaning white ash (ideal species for that!!!), I think I was just lucky so far, because I did not know yet about that bypass. From now, I am going to be very careful about that! Thanks again!
@niklar557 ай бұрын
I've been felling trees on my land, intermittently, foe over 20 years, and I'm pleased that I have never made THAT mistake!
@dougreid2351 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, succinct and superbly illustrated. Go to the front of the line! DOUGout
@squirtjosie7 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for good, clear explanation.
@archur1117 ай бұрын
Great explanation! I believe this is most common with cutting conifers.( soft wood)
@jimr7120 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you! Now I get it! I had one split last year, now I can see why.
@smurface549Күн бұрын
We had a neighbor falling a tree, which hit the edge of our barn. He managed to undercut both, the angled cut AND the flat cut. Well, there was a way too deep noth in the first place, and he somehow managed to cut the hinge away from the sides as well...
@ian9toesАй бұрын
I’m no professional but I’ve seen videos of pros putting a ratchet strap above the cut when they have reason to believe a barber chair might happen. Especially if it’s on a big lean or an old tree. Another way they avoid it is to make the back cut from the inside out, bore cut, establish the hinge then cut towards the back of the tree. That way the “strap” at the back prevents it from leaning until the strap is finally cut.
@matthewsanders6499 Жыл бұрын
This was surprisingly easy to understand for the layperson
@murphy4trees Жыл бұрын
Thanks.. god to hear.. it's amazing to me that the best instruction in chainsaw techniques come from KZbin. The industry trade organizations are terrified of touching anything outside of the narrow little box of their 40 year old cutting techniques.
@Be_Good_Do_Good Жыл бұрын
As most folks have already stated, thank you. I’m now smarter and safer.
@murphy4trees Жыл бұрын
that nice to hear... and why I made the video
@brettblack70492 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. You can also see it moving just above his head, which clearly shows it was equal movement there as at the top indicating that wind was most likely not a factor. Have a great week.
@michaelheyward76687 ай бұрын
Great video! Short and to the point.
@murphy4trees6 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@AvocaSingleTrack Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sir . One more bit of knowledge in my bag. Appreciate it.
@disillusioned0709 ай бұрын
Great explanation and video. It also looks like his facecut is pretty shallow which added to the vertical stress.
@philkelly4306 Жыл бұрын
Clear explanation, thank you
@murphy4trees Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@alanratay45837 ай бұрын
I’ve recently seen people put heavy duty ratchet straps or chains around the trunk to prevent this as well.
@mattetor6726 Жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation! Thank you!
@murphy4trees Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@bruce-le-smith8 ай бұрын
Cool review/tutorial, thank you!
@murphy4trees8 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@spelunkerd2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. I notice it stopped moving, it is the unexplained pause in momentum.
@murphy4trees2 жыл бұрын
I've seen enough tree failures on the job to know that the tree will often asorb an initial impact, and then with some delay, often deconds, sometimes minutes the fibers will just give up. So the delay is the not unexpected in many scenarios. This is aperfect example.... even that little forward movement and then sudden stop as enough to rip that trunk in half, but it took few seconds.
@D0praise2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, quick and to the point
@slowdancer55637 ай бұрын
Lifesaving information. Thank you.
@arcticbeak7 ай бұрын
I learned something today, thank you.
@joeblow19348 ай бұрын
Well explained!
@RayRay-dr7og5 ай бұрын
Great video, this helps A LOT of people!
@mrpush25328 ай бұрын
Good stuff. I'm sure lots of barber chairs are caused by this without knowledge of the feller.
@murphy4trees8 ай бұрын
my forst one was, and it was years before I figured out why...
@othellolagkage8 ай бұрын
Really good explenation!
@davebloggs8 ай бұрын
Great video nicely done.
@murphy4trees8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@brunolamarche100 Жыл бұрын
LIKE. --- This is an extremely important video!
@murphy4trees11 ай бұрын
thanks.. though rare a BC can easily kill the faller, especially for those that are unaware of the potential
@go5582 Жыл бұрын
Hi handsome. Great illustration and vocabulary. More videos . ❤
@christopherbright10487 ай бұрын
Very well done, I heat with firewood and cut down many trees. I am not a logger so I really appreciate any info to make it safer for me. Thanks
@shootstraight295 ай бұрын
Very educational video … THANK YOU
@canadianforged839 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. This type of info saves lives....
@sawdustadikt9798 ай бұрын
Great explanation, its three cuts, each one needs to be done correctly, not close enough.
@murphy4trees8 ай бұрын
of course it all depends... you can get away with cutting some corners in a given scenario, but you have to know the why, which includes all the things that can possibly go wrong.
@samuelluria47442 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation. I would differ with you however, on the movement of the top as the kerf closed....to me, it didn't seem so slight, but almost drastic.
@ROMAN-oy5ju10 ай бұрын
Great info here! Thank You
@murphy4trees10 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@effthegop7 ай бұрын
My thoughts are, this is a GREAT video!
@mischaeidmann40362 жыл бұрын
Very strong video 💪🏻 helped me rookie a lot. Thanks a lot
@larkinoo Жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation of the cause of barber chair. There really is quite a bit of knowledge required to safely and successfully felling trees. Not to mention skill in handling a chainsaw. Thanks, good vid !!! I have seen a number of vids portraying novices " doing it wrong " and I always post to them that they need to get some tutorial on how to do it safely. The last one I watched where a novice was cutting down a tree he, on the back cut, cut almost completely through his hinge. I was yelling at the screen " STOP, STOP, STOP !!! ". Somehow, and by the grace of God, that tree fell just fine, though I do not know how !