Creating new load data for Lee loadall 2

UPDATED SHEET is HERE in this newer video - • Updated shotgun load d...
In this video, I show how I create custom load data for the Lee load all 2 for powders that are not listed in their published data. The three powders I worked on were TiteWad, TiteGroup, and LongShot. This method can be used with ANY powder as long as you have the VMD for that powder and the volume of the bushing in question. I hope this helps someone who is trying to load a particular powder with their machine. Stay safe.

[@michaelchilders5042]

Great information. I would love to have a copy of your data sheet.

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

Email me and I will send it to you [e-mail]

[@Wayneooo]

This should have way more views!

[@martinschulz9381]

I loaded thousands of shells with mine when I was a kid. For regular hunting, this machine with its "limited load data" is more than enough. An Expensive loader will not help you bag more game. Many times when I'm in a sporting goods store I walk over and look at the reloading equipment just to look at the Lee Precision products. I've noticed in a busy market with many marketing gimmicks, they tend to simplify things, solve problems and make affordable products. Good video.

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

Lee makes good stuff at an honest price, I agree with you whole heartedly. My only complaint with this loader is if you can't find the powders in their load data. In recent history, that has been a much bigger problem than in the past. Thanks for the support.

[@martinschulz9381]

@@murphyfirearmstraining3630 Funny you should mention. My nephew is interested in loading shells with my old Lee Load all. Last night I googled the Lee Load data and it looks exactly like the same paper that originally came loader in the the late 70s.

[@Sinatra192]

If only I paid more attention in middle school math class!!

[@billofalltrades1468]

I just started reloading and the powder that was available was longshot, I appreciate you taking the time to do this, I'll have to make or buy filler cards to take up space. Once again thanks, I have this video saved for reference.

[@tigranchukhuryan7466]

Thank you! Good job

[@twoowls4469]

I'm just getting into reloading and will be starting off with the Lee Load All 2. Did some loading with a buddy about 40 years ago, but not since. I've been watching a lot of videos looking for tips and tricks. Yours is the first I've seen that makes sense on load datasheets. Being a data guy (retired systems analyst) your info was easy to replicate in Excel. Thanks for sharing.

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

I have another video with expanded version of this sheet, checkit out if you get a chance. I appreciate the kinds words and hope some of my other videos can answer any questions you have. It's an enjoyable hobby.

[@johnshandloading7907]

I am glad you talked about column height. I was wondering what I needed to do if the shells were too short.

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

most recipes will give you correct column height, but overshot and nitro cards are great when it's too short.

[@dontblink2782]

Outstanding!!!! I just sent an email requesting the spreadsheet. Thank you!

[@bixby9797]

Great video. I've gone through stuff like this using shotgun powders for pistol loads and figuring my own data out for unlisted loadings. Always start min - 10% and be cautious. Just got into shotgun reloading and was scratching my head with the Lee Load All I got for Christmas. I was starting down the same road for 8lbs of Titegroup I picked up years ago but your math makes the job much easier since I have that Lee Reloading book.

[@brutalbob3982]

Very good video Mr. Murphy, I bet it helps a lot of reloaders. Take Care, God Bless, STAY SAFE

[@robertboyd3863]

Thanks for posting as I had just ordered some Tite Wad and wondered how to convert it

[@glennluteraan4434]

100% valuable info in today's limited supply market. Thank you so much!!! I sent an email requesting your spreadsheet.

[@pareloader5989]

Where the hell were you when I was in math class!!!?

[@jimhobson9268]

Great video! Very helpful! Thanks.

[@saleembarmania5295]

Thank you. Sincerely. Thank you.

[@TechMechRandom]

Hodgdon has a chart for Lee's (updated as of 2023). You can access it from Lee Precision or Hodgdon's reloading data.

[@ronaldjohnson1474]

Ya beat me to it! Looks like the same exact info presented here.

[@anthonyflannery4995]

Lee's bushings generally throw light charges. Used load all for 15 years, now have MEC and the bushings throw light also. Need a scale to check

[@RayHoeger-ho4wu]

Great information. I would love to have a copy of your data sheet. Makes is so easy to be safe.

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

email [e-mail]

[@gerardogutierrez4828]

I just purchased 3 pounds of titegroup and I was going to use it to load 12g. Thanks for the video! I would definitely have a copy of your load data if it’s possible!

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

Shoot me an email [e-mail] Or reply with your address and I will send it out to you

[@jakemunger3049]

@@murphyfirearmstraining3630 please send me a copy of your chart as I have the Lee load all and use strictly Longshot powder

[@paulinebrogne4708]

Hello Murphy to open a cartridge with a convex cone I take a wine corkscrew you insert the point by turning the corkscrew it is not enough then like a cork cork to pull and the whole comes out without problem, the plastic of the hull is spared.

[@Bhakhanda1369]

Longshot powder is great for many pistol calibers too fyi. One of the best for 357Sig and 10mm.

[@noahcline100]

Very well done thank you!!

[@MichaelSmith-ej3ki]

Liked the video. I am looking at getting a lee load all and would love to get a copy of the data sheet in your video. Thanks in advance.

[@bridgerinstitute2818]

Thanks so much for putting the video together. I would love to get a copy of your data sheet if possible.

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

Send me your email address and I will email it to you. Don't have a way to post on youtube......

[@nbnotch5671]

Email sent requesting chart, Thank you for this.

[@adolfaranda2341]

Good info I want a copy

[@tommywhite2631]

I would like the spreadsheet please. As a new reloader this is extremely helpful thank you much.

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

Tommy, if you send me an email to [e-mail] I will send you the sheet.

[@alaskanalain]

2023 and you still have to settle for whatever powder you can get, even if it's baby powder. At least in Alaska.

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

Not a whole lot better here.

[@williamcrawford7982]

By volume yes, check with scale, round &round we go.

[@henriqueviana4445]

Olá sou Henrique do Brasil. Tenho uma prensa dessa da Lee para 12GA . Ela é muito boa é a melhor que tem no Brasil. Eu uso a pólvora CBC 219 com 28 gn e chumbo 3T com 36gramas . Fica um belo tiro . Obrigado Henrique 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷

[@MrGeoLopez]

Great video, Im going to start reloading my own as more of a hobby. Could you please send me a copy of the speed sheet. Keep up the great work.

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

Shoot me an email and I will send it to you. [e-mail]

[@shanefrericks2070]

@murphyfirearmstraining3630 I would love to have that spreadsheet. Thank you for the good work I use a lot of lee products and always have had good luck and quality and relatively priced well not to mention that it produces quality ammunition weather is the Lee load all 2. Or any of their metallic cartridge reloading from the basic rubber mallet and hand I set for Centerfire and 410 to the hand press or the Challenger have been extremely reliable and not to mention the dies extremely easy to use

[@sluggou812beotch]

Lol...lmfao... you made that about as hard as you possibly could. Use a ratio proportion problem format. Easy, peasy. I had my bushings figured out for Win 572 in a couple minutes.

[@The10thManRules]

Thank you!

[@willwood487]

Have you tested any of the loads with titegroup and long shot would be interested in checking those out. Also I would like a copy of the spreadsheet

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

I load Longshot regularly. I haven't loaded with tite group. Email me at [e-mail] And I will send you a copy

[@raymondc.3003]

Awesome video. I just started reloading and the only thing available is long shot. Can you please send me a copy of the spreadsheet 👍🏻

[@joshwilham8480]

I would greatly appreciate a copy of the load data for titewad, longshot & titegroup for the Lee load all 2. Thanks

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

Shoot me an email and I can get it to you in excel [e-mail]

[@kdg280z1]

This is a great video! I can’t believe i never saw this one before when looking if anyone had came up with any other load data for the Lee loadall. Would be possible for to got a copy of this from you?

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

Just email me and I will send you a copy. [e-mail]

[@randyhowe6333]

Awesome video I would like a copy of your load bushing sheet thank you

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

Randy, if you email me [e-mail] I will send you a copy. Thanks, Chris

[@tedh7543]

Great content as usual Murphy! I tried to send you a message through KZbin to request the spreadsheet, but for some reason I cannot. Is this something you have to enable on your end?

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

Hmm. Not sure. Email address is [e-mail]

[@charleslove9793]

TRUMP 2020

[@bricesdaddy]

Great video. Longshot is all I’ve been able to find lately. Using a load all 2, any good recipes you’ve found for 12? Using 7.5 lead w209 primer.

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

Most of my Longshot recipes are for 00buck. What weight wad are you using (1 1/8, 1 oz, or 7/8)?

[@bricesdaddy]

@@murphyfirearmstraining3630 1 1/8 lead

[@jerrywilliams5741]

Thanks for a really great video and are you still sending out that terrific cheat sheet?

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

Yes sir. If you email me I will send you a copy. Thanks for watching, I appreciate the support

[@joew8013]

To calculate how many grains per bushing couldn’t you just fill one up then weigh it?

[@mhatter6332]

that's how I do it... before I even put it in the press. His method might be quicker, sometimes, though.

[@critter9a]

I bought mine about 2 months ago. using green dot powder setting it up for 18.3 gr drops supposed to use the 141 powder bushing only get 16.7 at best. out of frustration I put it on a scale and spoon in until I get that 18 gr charge. have you had similar problems?

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

With some powders it is more prominent. The lee bushings are usually a few tenths short, but that is way off. Have you tried to use the next bushing up?

[@critter9a]

@@murphyfirearmstraining3630 yes I did. but still not good enough. I got it close then scaled it to a charge that I wanted. it's slower but more accurate

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

@@critter9a MEC (and other) presses have enough bushings to get it dead on. The Lee system is just too basic if it has to be that close. If you shoot enough and want your loads dead on, you might consider upgrading. My shotgun volume is not enough to warrant that investment..... For my birdshot loads, I get the closest it will get and let it go. For my buckshot loads, I do what you do (throw powder with the bushing into my scale pan and then trickle to exact weight). Wish I could be more help.

[@critter9a]

@@murphyfirearmstraining3630 yeah that's my problem, not enough shooting to warrant that kind of investment. I've got it down to a system to make it work so, I'll just deal with it lol thanks for the help

[@theoldshooter5631]

@@critter9a Another guy on YT had the same problem and took a bushing that gave him more powder than he needed and he took finger nail polish and built up the inside of the bushing until it was dead on his load desire.

[@CarlPapa88]

I don't think I'd save any $ over just stocking up on ammo. Would be good to have if SHTF, but 'til then...

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

If you want heavier or more specialty loads (like 1 1/4 oz #6) it does save you money. If you shoot 1 1/8 oz 1200fps bird shot not nearly as much because of the time it takes. It is relaxing for me, so the time doesn't bother me.

[@tommycoogler3416]

Thank you for the information! Can you please send me the spreadsheet?

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

Tommy, If you will email me at [e-mail] or reply with your email address I will send it to you.

[@jameshanson5401]

Thank you sir I’m new to reloading shotshell if it’s still available could you send me a download sheet

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

I have a newer video linked in this description. The new video has the sheet in the comments of it that you can download

[@andydavies1266]

Hi, any chance I could grab a copy at all. Many thanks keep up the good work.

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

Send me an email and I will send it to you. [e-mail]

[@davidross3695]

Very useful information. Can you send me a copy of your data please?

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

David, email me and I will send you the sheet. [e-mail]

[@thetaxman595]

Brand new to reloading and hoping someone can help I'm trying to load 1 1/8oz of 7.5 in federal clay shells with longshot powder and can't figure out the powder load

[@sameidy8393]

Can I get a copy of your load data sheet for the long shot titewad and titegroup data for the Lee load all bushings

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

If you email me at [e-mail] I will gladly send you a copy

[@domingosaenz3043]

Do you have any data or recipes for a 12ga light loads using hs6 that's the powder I can find down here ??

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

My manual doesn't show any entries for HS6 powder. May search reloading forums like the reloaders bench or BPI has a section where they publish a load of the week.

[@N2RI1]

cant find where to post my email to get copy of data. also would like to have for red dot, blue dot, green dot as many suppliers have popular powders listed for loadall out of stock

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

If you email me I will send it to you. [e-mail]

[@bogdancala6767]

Hi. I'd love a copy of the spreadsheet. Thank you kindly.

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

Email me [e-mail] and I'll send it

[@jamestitchenell180]

How can I obtain a copy of your spread sheet for the Lee Load All ?

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

Just email me [e-mail] I will send it to you

[@jacobyrussell1532]

Will this work for steel shot using long shot powder 3 in 1 1/4 oz

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

Yes, there are published steel shot recipes this machine can make.

[@randycowell2969]

I'd like a copy of this reload data.

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

Go to the new video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/baLNloVjod-tb6s The sheet has been updated to include a lot of new powders and the link to the file is in the description.

[@outdoorswithjake2174]

Please send data I have a Lee and couldn’t find long shot data for it thanks

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

If you search my videos I have an updated sheet and the link to the sheet is in the comments.

[@johntaylor8582]

I would like copy please

[@user-nn2tj4lp3s]

Where can I get a copy of that sheet?

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

email me and I will send it to you. I have a more updated version (and video). [e-mail]

[@unclewaldensgrubchannel]

Can I get a copy of that sheet?

[@richardorr7817]

Is there a way to email you with questions?

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

[e-mail] is the email. I will do my best to answer any questions, and will share the spreadsheet with anyone who wants it.

[@user-qp9qu6rw3d]

Data sheet

[@Pappy1950]

Do you have a sheet for 20 gauge?

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

Randy, I have greatly expanded the sheet since the original video, and have added some powders that would be applicable for 20 gauge. Shoot me an email and I will send you a copy. [e-mail]

[@user-qp9qu6rw3d]

The document

[@user-qp9qu6rw3d]

The Data sheet

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

Nick if you will email me, I will send you a copy.

[@Txmodels]

Would you be able to email me a copy of that formula in excel?

[@user-qp9qu6rw3d]

Can you send me the conversion data?

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

You mean the sheet or the formulas?

[@johnbunegru3611]

I was thinking about picking up a Maverick 88 12 gauge and loading my own shells but being new at this stuff it’s kind of confusing to me.

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

@johnbunegru3611 I have a few shotgun reloading videos, check them out and see if they help ease your fear. It's really enjoyable, just have to be careful.

[@johnbunegru3611]

@@murphyfirearmstraining3630 Yes, I have watched a bunch of your videos and I enjoy them. I’m just trying to figure out if I wanted to load a target shell, how much powder and which powder to use and which wad to use and which shot to use so that is safe and crimps properly. I do plan on purchasing the Lee load all two for my first loading adventure. Just not sure what powder and wads and shot to buy for a standard target load.

[@johnbunegru3611]

I did go to the ballistic products website and they have so much stuff. I have no clue where to start.​@@murphyfirearmstraining3630

[@johnbunegru3611]

I did look at the ballistic products website and they have so much reloading supplies to offer that I’m not exactly sure what to buy for target load.

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

@@johnbunegru3611 what load are you shooting for? 1 oz, 1/18,l, 1 1/4? How much power? What size shot? All of those factors will dictate your wad choice and powder choice.

[@TheChewy78]

Can you send me some info on this excel spread sheet please? I sent an email.

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

Will do

[@user-kc5yf4fk3s]

you are making this much more complicated than it needs to be. you have a powder scale don't you? pick a powder find some load data them pick a bushing, drop a charge then weigh it. to lite get a bigger one to much powder get a smaller bushing. the point is you need to weigh the powder charges don't trust Lee bushings plus powder may change from lot to lot

[@murphyfirearmstraining3630]

This is intended to give you a starting point for picking that first bushing.