Murray Gell-Mann - Begrudgingly signing my name to a paper with Feynman (80/200)

[@DarkMagician903]

Rest in peace Murray, so glad to have this interview with such a great mind

[@PatrickLeeRyan]

This should sometimes be called War Stories of Remarkable People

[@HotPepperLala]

I'll save everyone from reading the comments. it is basically "Feyman is famous and popular, therefore anyone who speaks critical of him (even if factual) is wrong"

[@HalfassDIY]

none of the others dwell on G-M’s narcissism or personal habits or attempt to belittle his achievements

[@shiddy.]

I get the feeling they liked each other but he couldn't help talk about the weird part of Feynman ... we can all assume Feynman wouldn't have taken any offense at all at describing his weird habits think about it, if one of us got familiar enough with Feynman to experience that side of him, we'd talk about it too I think Feynman was fascinating and the weird things about him are part of the awesome ... he would approve

[@Don.Challenger]

People are going to be people no matter their natural talents or learnt intelligence. Some folks you might not want on a friendly basis. Nice thing about this very wonderful series Web of Stories is you can find another side of the story in many cases (see the Freeman Dyson one for comparison here). Yes, their personalities become evident and we can be sympathetic to that realization. But if you and I together talked of our lives and those we interacted with what would our impressions of each other be after a few hours at it?

[@us-Bahn]

Murry wears 2 watches. Maybe with opposite spin?

[@nevertheless123]

ROFL comment made my day

[@impCaesarAug]

One is vector, the other is axial vector.

[@kinkysoulqwerty]

I somehow sense that Prof Gell Mann's way of expressing himself - punctuations, emphasis, and excitement have some resemblance with those of Prof. Feynman. I think he adores Feynman or at least was influenced by him in a very deep way ... just doesn't express it so much ....

[@alaanejjar705]

I agree. It might also be the other way around haha

[@herrwarum5969]

and so on and so forth...

[@gibbogle]

Talk about strange interaction ...

[@michaelgonzalez9058]

It is collaboration that makes a quarke

[@NothingMaster]

The clash of the egos. Still, it is truly lamentable when Gell-Mann tries to actively trash Feynman.

[@michaelgonzalez9058]

The pios is also a vector

[@michaelgonzalez9058]

It is a two component atom

[@dougg1075]

He HATED Feynman’s type A personality. He’s mentioned it in other interviews. He seems like a cool guy though.

[@craigwall9536]

Gell-Mann has his non-fans as well.

[@Studentofgosset]

Feynman starts writing a paper on something MGM also thought of, so MGM starts writing a paper too on the same thing. A third party suggests two people in the same department trying to publish two identical papers wouldn't look good. So MGM adds some things to Feynman's paper that he isn't proud of because he hadn't carefully thought it out enough. And somehow this was all Feynman's fault...

[@EGarrett01]

Because MGM had thought of it first and already mentioned it in something he had written.

[@micheleguerrini6514]

OH MYY GOOODDD!!

[@gregodify]

@0:48 Why is he wearing two watches?

[@shroomskaiev]

He has close relatives overseas and does not want to let's say call them in the middle of the night ?

[@vilandes]

Insurance in case one stops

[@bogdanyer]

Obviously he stole one from Feynman

[@ray.shoesmith]

One spins in the opposite direction

[@jangeertbruggink5044]

70% of this total interview is this guy shitting on Richard Feynman😂

[@JUNGLEsausage]

or Julain Schwinger

[@thegames-bd6mh]

Sounds more like this guy's projecting his insecurities about himself on feynman

[@jc03571]

This guy is a lesson in how someone can simultaneously be brilliant and small minded at the same time. I can’t imagine a more annoying person to have in a nearby office

[@imranq9241]

I respect Murray Gell Mann, but this interview is so strange that he talks this way about a late colleague. I hope he changed later in life.

[@andrewrivera4029]

Not many physicists come off as pompous azzes but...

[@chriskindler10]

...but Feynman does?

[@throwaway692]

Unusual to see jealousy in an intellect of this caliber. And you're basically accusing Feynman of plagiarism.

[@shovon9412]

By the looks of it gell-man's heart seems to be as small as the elementary particles he studies and his ego the size of the observable universe

[@td866]

so true! with an open mind i've watched videos of feynman and gell-mann. gell mann seems like proper egotistical, envious twat!

[@eastwestcoastkid]

shovon one of Feynman’s students George Zweig, implied as much .. He discovered Aces which were equivalent to quarks..

[@Avicenna10]

Murray, you shouldn’t have given in so easily. Every time Dick wanted to do a paper with me, I had to tell him , now Dick, you need to go and do your own work. Quit trying to ride on my coattails and stealing my ideas! (And then, I woke up...) :-)

[@MyBittersweetTravels]

This whole interview is this guy bashing Yang and Feynman, and claiming to have come up with their ideas first just never getting around to putting them on paper.

[@petenrita]

Outside of Physuxs and science, MGM is unknown. Feynman became a cultural phenomenon. MGM could not handle it.

[@TheSmkngun]

What a jealous, negative and pompous person Gell-Mann was! Zero humility. The interviews with Freeman-Dyson, Feynman, Hans Bethe on the other hand are so much more pleasant to watch.

[@thesceptic1018]

none of the others dwell on G-M’s narcissism or personal habits or attempt to belittle his achievements

[@bernardliu8526]

Why is this dude so full of hubris ? Never heard of him before.

[@paxsreekantan3639]

😏

[@critical_analysis]

Have there been any realtime applications for these theories? These fellows have so much arrogance that they have temerity to belittle giants like Einstein, Heisenberg, so on. These particle physicists have wet dreams ...

[@Random-rs9bl]

😂😂😂😂

[@kaatnikaatni9012]

He was always jealous of Feynman popularity and just couldn't get why Feynman shone and he remained in shadow.

[@grahamblack1961]

In what sense did he remain in the shadow, Gell-Mann is one of the most famous and revered physicists of the 20th century.

[@Studentofgosset]

Being famous and revered doesn't mean you don't get jealous about specific things, depends on the character.

[@BLUEGENE13]

gellman simply isn't jealous of feynman, he's correctly calling out Feynman as having earned much of his fame as having put on a character to impress, and that is undoubtedly at least half of what Feynman did. You're just a Feynman fan boy, that can't bear to hear the truth. As well, gell-mann has over and over given his thunder to others, and actively rejected popularity. He correctly characterizes the people he has talked about including feynman. He reacts like a normal professor would, to see your colleague put on a show for attention and popularity screams narcissism. Any normal person should see that.

[@BLUEGENE13]

Do any of you actually know about what Feynman was actually like. Stealing the wifes of his graduate students and colleagues. He was a scoundrel and he even admits it.

[@BLUEGENE13]

your comment isn't relevant, we ARE talking about his personal life in combination with his fame and how it relates to murray. That's nice that you appreciate his work, we don't care