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[@Weaverbeats]

I actually don't hate you at all brother. I've just been critical of the drip plugin in the past, that's generally what I do with my review series. I think you actually presented a very level headed take on this video, I genuinely appreciate the reaction to my video. Much love man. Keep it up, i've been fking with the rapper collab videos.

[@mfyrisingmayo1913]

boy said copyright strike by "accident'🤔

[@user-ko4to2fs2i]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJ7JhqqGm62eZ80

[@Dildtherapper]

@@mfyrisingmayo1913 strikes are an automated process my guy

[@revamped4501]

@@mfyrisingmayo1913 it’s an automated thing broski

[@iteli]

lol

[@Oversampled]

It do be like that. Making videos is a pretty time consuming task, but you gotta decide what you want to prioritize. For me it's always been improving my production skills and making music on the first place, but if you dive deeper into it you can see that these things overlap: You learn better skills -> you can teach them to people, bring more value and make more useful content. You make more music -> you can make a quick video with tips from your songs. You make songs on videos -> you can release those. If you release content based on your actual experience -> your audience will be more certain about the tips you give them and tips will actually have some depth to them, rather than purely being based on assumptions or imagination. I like when a tutor has some good tracks to back them up and it's always great to hear an example on an actuall good song that slaps. I've watched everything by Virtual Riot multiple times, because this dude makes banging music and I know that the tips he's giving are kinda like a secret sauce haha!

[@isaacdynys6518]

Ayyyy the goat

[@dextersdead]

❤

[@Blammerz]

Great advice, man! Keep up the great work!

[@DuskfoxOfficial]

Fair point, but on the other hand sometimes when really good producers share too much of their tips to other people, the consumers become more and more dependent on them, and they lose the spark that once illuminated clearly in front of their listeners because they used their own spells on them. I mean sure, I might’ve gotten some sort of actual help from other people just to become me today and it might be a selfish choice, but the bigger picture is, it gets harder for newer producers to make a name for themselves when the talented side of the community becomes so saturated. Take Au5 for example. We were in awe for his capability and skill of sound designing for years on end. Although he does do a few breakdowns on his tracks, he probably doesn’t explain completely how he approaches sound designing his signature sounds (I mean, only does full project breakdowns and random tutorials) in avoidance of risking his individualism and then some random producer out of nowhere comes up and does rival him with his own tips/advice/how-to-make-my-sounds, not showing any credit to where he got his information from. Maybe unless if you paid for his masterclasses or something, but if he does at least it cuts a huge portion of people who would otherwise just use for free, what took him hundreds of hours on end of total grinding in order to make. But even then, I don’t see anyone rivaling him at all because no matter how many tutorials he makes he never just hands away his signature sounds. He’s still the same person who we think is godly. While there’s nothing wrong with tips and advice spoonfed directly to your mouth, and I’m not saying people shouldn’t take it, people take stuff for granted way too much. If everyone follows VR’s secret tips, how can I tell apart someone who actually puts their own 10 cents to the way they make music instead of becoming another duplicate of someone else?

[@foresightunit8019]

This guy right here, is kind of a goated for being comedian in his videos at the same time. No one does what he does. To see some music production tips and reviews where you can die of a laughter is really rare. Much love @Oversampled !

[@djanon22]

When I was 14, I came home very upset as tons of kids at school said I suck at guitar. I was brave enough to play, and sing in front of 100s of students at an assembly, and had dozens of people compliment me. Yet I'm out here crying to my mama cause 3 guys said I'm trash lol. My moms response was "Well, maybe you are trash, I don't know" Froze me in my tracks. WHAT! Mom! How could you say that??? Her reply: "Your skin is purple" I was like you lost your mind wtf. So she tells me-- "See? When I say something you know isn't true, you laugh it off. You think I'm crazy. Maybe deep down you really do feel you suck, which is why people saying it makes you so upset. If it wasn't true, you wouldn't care." Every since then, this has been how I weigh someone's authenticity. I don't care that Adam Ivy for example, hasn't done much of anything in music, and has made the bulk of his money selling courses in it. I do care however that very simple questions result in a man in his late 30's throwing temper tantrums and calling artists losers for inquiring how many of his students have found success from his course. I don't care if a KZbinr has ever even made a song lol. I care if the advise is on point, and I care how they react when fans ask them to quantify their ability as a teacher. If you, a grown man, get mad, well, maybe deep down you feel you aren't qualified.

[@Beatitat]

One issue I had was once I was getting good and consistent with the KZbin videos, I was lacking with working with artists in the industry. Once I focused on studio sessions and working with big artists, I started to do poorly on KZbin. It’s a tricky balance. I haven’t quite found it yet. Praises to any one who does

[@Karlhto]

I really like that u talk more and give insights of your perspective and feel more comfortable to be yourself in this channel. keep it up with everything u re doing. i wanna see u perform in a concert one day. sweatpants is my jam.

[@larrytan73]

did you buy his plugin?

[@larrytan73]

right?

[@YZMajor]

Doesn't matter the industry. Dubious actors on both sides will exist. I just focus on my music and put it out there.

[@Astulock86]

I'm totally new to your channel and the BTS look at upcoming music producers. Your responses to the video, and the video itself, helps my understanding of the broad niches that now exist in music and also video content. I hope that everyone like yourself can be successful doing what they love to do.

[@Maycloudmusic]

I definitely agree. There is so many different routes you can take on this journey. Sometimes it definitely overwhelming though

[@Komonaid]

The music producer community really be comming together under this and I absolutely love it too see you guys agreeing

[@CrackaLackTV]

I dig it bro. Love the concept behind your 2 channels. Keep it up and much love 🤝

[@NetuH]

This was a great watch. Spotify is a whole different world from KZbin, you just have to put in the work and get a whole different audience there, at least that’s how I did it. Don’t expect your KZbin audience to just check out your songs, you need to grind Spotify separately. Respect to both of you ✌️

[@IjawboyMusic]

Kyle you're great inspiration to all, every musician just have to do they thing and grow in it ❤️

[@Alice-Efe]

Making videos takes time, especially once you reach a certain level and you want to keep the quality with your videos as well. In that sense, it is a full time job. The only good side is that you are improving your production skills even though you are working full-time as a KZbinr because you are still working things related to music production. So you don't have as much time as "full time-producer", in that sense. Now that being said, if you never produce a track; well that is a bit fishy. Because how can you teach, for example, arrangement if you have never finished a track and go through with the frustration yourself? How can you know? Spotify is whole other world and numbers don't matter. But I do believe that KZbin Producers especially who teach at the same time should produce and release tracks. Otherwise it is not convincing enough. But again, I believe numbers doesn't matter as much in Spotify. Being in a big playlist in Spotify can give you hundreds of thousands of plays and that shouldn't define what good or not good artist per se.

[@CxdyCxdy]

agree with everything u said fr

[@HazyJ28]

You offered a lot of valuable insight, not even regarding this topic. Appreciate it.

[@SumnSumnSumnHTK]

You're absolutely right about making a living with 10 k subs. I have 15k subs and I just quit my job in July. This month i'll make twice as much as I was when I worked full time and did youtube. There's soooo many ways to make money off music and everyone wants to only focus on selling beats. S/n can you dismiss the copyright claim I got on reddit for reviewing Spaz? smh

[@neonkuromi]

whats your main source of income now? is it streams or like youtube adsense?

[@triazo]

my main income is selling beats rn but I am looking to start sending out loops and putting stuff on spotify. any other ideas? what has worked for you?

[@realdiole]

Brilliant!

[@ajgumpper]

Wow. That is crazy. Good for you man that's awesome

[@persona8991]

How are you making money exactly?

[@lordownanglo]

What golden content this is. Super inspiring for small content creators to decide what it is they really want from their channel

[@Rmcbeatz.]

Love the content! I’ve been saying this for like a year this is the beginning to like a gaming niche.

[@beatsbybombs2828]

Just Sub Thanks Dope Vid

[@BeatsWithKev]

It's really an interesting time to be a music youtuber. Frank Poole I found cause he makes free Patcher presets that emulate more expensive plugins, and Seventh Beats I rock with cause he's big on Amapiano/Afrobeat music. It's really encoraging to see so many lanes and ways to be successful out here for musicians and producers.

[@ianconklinmusic]

I hope one day my KZbin gets bigger since I try to post beats every couple days.

[@Coldice1NLY]

I feel chill when i watch kyle in the studio, i love the vibe

[@pittolikeditto]

I've been working on my own production of my songs now for the last few years, while also getting my degree and also just living life. Who knows if i'll make it but i'll be damned if I dont try.

[@precisionsoundworksstudio]

Kyle, you have put in A LOT of hard work over the years. Congrats on all of your success... Well done!

[@RadiumRecordsHollywood]

Love this. Very honest and straight forward. Good work!

[@dizigned193]

So glad that you mentioned Aries. Didn't even know you were acquainted with him but he's easily a favorite of mine.

[@latenightluke]

Very thoughtful and well said response. Great insight!

[@loutboyxoxo]

Ayo Kyle you should mention this channel on your main one, alot of people don't know about this

[@eb6media]

Cool to know the story about Aries! I've had some of his songs for years. Also, DJ Pain 1 has 8800 Spotify monthly listeners right now, but I can't even imagine the total amount of people that have listened to the artists that he's produced tracks for!

[@davidwatts8281]

In most cases, "those who can't do.. Teach"

[@nomasskkLNF]

Hey I like the painting where you get it

[@violarulez]

the truth is people have different strengths. like busywork is clearly a good teacher, even if his music isn't great. some people are good content creators but not necessarily good musicians like alex rome 😏. but yea the truth is everybody has different strengths, and every person looking for learning materials online has different weaknesses. .. but you just can't deny that there are some people putting out courses that have no much knowledge to teach, the thing is that's the case in any industry.

[@sfilipee]

I would like to say that it's just like those music students who can play virtously but can't make a song to save their lives, but it's not that either, is it? They are just regurgitating the same information again an again and stating something obvious like it's the most groundbreaking thing ever.

[@JSewellBeats]

At the end of the day if you find a way to make a living through your music, who gives a shit how you've gotten there, streaming well or not

[@jessepraise1193]

J on themmm

[@lava-ru5ue]

Yeah I didn’t know Aries started from online?? I went to his concert in london early this year that’s actually crazy

[@ajmikula]

Gotta check out Simon the Magpie! Very, very weird to see him mentioned in a video here, though.

[@BeautifulBeats99]

Wish he exposed me fr 😂

[@morris_de]

Yee man, really agree with you

[@NathanRynkowski]

No Ragrets! I like your content and music you produce, I just cant unsee Sacrafice is spelled wrong in your painting 😂

[@JulianGarcia-Hernandez]

were you rapping at 2:53?

[@seanfitz1001]

Can someone please explain why Kyle is wearing a Cavan top?

[@etanmusicx]

Simon with a new banger EP and a few solid songs on his spotify, be like... :O

[@imperialbagel]

“I guide others to a treasure I cannot possess.”

[@traplover6357]

A teacher teaching a subject will be different from someone in the field of said subject. Different skills and goals.

[@FLAVMEDIA]

Deep Conversation Weaver B and Kyle :))

[@Kooma]

9:13 this is such a good advice 🙏

[@ralfmoss]

....also I did interesting interviews with other producers....that never lift off, so it's back on the shelf 😁

[@sequenza]

Is that a Cavan top? 😄

[@daygalangford5328]

I don’t even listen to Spotify and a lot of other people don’t either

[@bigboss-qv7pe]

That's the expert funnel. Hate the game, not the players.

[@po9t]

Me watching this video waiting for my camera to charge so I can film my own YT vid 😂

[@TRIPPAH]

Aries!! Fool's gold , conversations, racecar and sayonara all in my playlist . Just absolute 🔥🔥🔥💯

[@Taasisi1]

For me what I want for my teacher or my mentor to be is having an example of what he did example kyle beats collective

[@phakzonthebeat]

Busy Works Beats actually help me learn all the basics and I had a few conversations with him and he gave me so much knowledge truth be told I would not have made it this far as fast without his help that being said it's a major service to be able to go on specifically KZbin and learn things for free

[@hydramusicofficial7120]

You can start your own label as a producer and as well as rapper

[@Chuki2]

WORD!!!!!!

[@its2sum]

Hope to make it in a video someday

[@CatDribble]

Not all producers are gonna get plays on KZbin or Spotify, they could put there stuff on beat selling sites, or placements or direct messaging

[@oldschooljohnny]

Now the goddam Doctor Mix or whatever the hell effects randomizer Unison are hocking are on all your videos! Do a video on randomizers!!! please!

[@neonkuromi]

i never understood the obsession with spotifys numbers. they dont pay the most in terms of streams and alot of people dont even use spotify. my biggest audience is on youtube soundcloud and tiktok. my listeners dont care for spotify. they like apple music and youtube music.

[@persona8991]

money

[@DERAILENTERTAINMENT1]

I'd say the typical SUBSCRIBERS that are Producers are usually in Learn Mode vs Fan Mode, so less likely to go listen to music instead of Creating💯..

[@bluecafe509]

You'll make more money from KZbin than from Spotify. My music is on Spotify but I didn't personally put it there. I have never used Spotify. I put whatever music I make up on SoundCloud to share on social media.

[@DawnHub666]

KZbinrs are just KZbinrs.

[@nightsidebeats4719]

I didn’t mean to laugh but I did 😂. I’m at a stage where I still feel like I’m struggling but I’m grasping it. And Even I have over 60 monthly listeners on Spotify.

[@bolan6622]

Great vid

[@L117music]

I agree KZbinrs are FRAUDS in all genres of video making. most kids on here just copy everyone else clickbait videos or what ever gets the views from tutorials to my imaginary journey instead of making original content and music. I will admit i throw things together, experiment and i have a real job in the real world so i'm not just chasing dreams. I like just messing around and having fun with sounds even if it does sound bad. I don't here of many new music genres that stand out of the crowd these days. i'm not even trying to be famous and i wouldn't be that arrogant to even say i was a music producer either. but a cult following would be nice in the after hours underground night club music scene.

[@notsixofficial7000]

More reaction videos would be awesome🔥🔥🔥

[@ProducedByCyrus]

Weaver Beats is for the people

[@sharttank5999]

You ever thought of producing an industrial track? I got stems complete.

[@MARZILLI]

Just picked up DRIP btw… So Dope…

[@alfawoods1758]

You should check out the mag pie he’s awesome

[@bryanketcham9922]

Salute Kyle

[@rawmaterial9679]

The reason why most people don’t make it as an artist is because they are robots. All speak in the same tone and their personality is that of a teacher and not a real person. The ones who be themselves and actually make this shit look fun and wavey blow up ! Nick Mira probably made the most out of everyone to, so this guy chats pure trash

[@sushibongg9057]

didnt realize chris had that many subs ngl

[@lovisrocks]

People don’t appreciate music anymore. It’s not normal to have access to all the music in the world for 10 bucks a month. Call me crazy but that is and shouldn’t be normal! I used to pay between 10 and 20 for an album and because I didn’t have unlimited money I listened to that single peace of music back and forth until I wanted something new... That in my opinion is normal and appreciative behavior for someone who wants to listen to something else but radio. If you really love music canceling your Spotify plan should be the first thing you do tomorrow!

[@kylebeats2]

!! This is a very interesting topic honestly

[@CuteTransGirlxD]

that's why I still buy music on iTunes and sometimes bandcamp. I still have the mindset of wanting to own things.

[@illy2066]

I can agree with this even though I have never thought about it quite like that. I was way more appreciative and satisfied when I paid the 10-20 dollars for an album. I used to sit and listen while reading and looking at the artwork and lyrics in the booklet. I used to look forward to listening to it over and over. Learning all the nuances in the songs. smh now it's overwhelming with soooo many options . that just me though lol

[@MajorJayy]

i still listen to songs and albums over and over on spotify but it is indeed not the same as back then and it does sometimes make me slightly less appreciative, i guess. still got used to the new way and only very rarely buy any music anymore to support an artist or whatever

[@flaquis2729]

I honestly miss the days of physical media like CDs because I loved to read the credits for each track.

[@spicyice2250]

2:48 why is he spitting bars here

[@KyleS6347]

too much too unpack in a comment but all of this is having to do with audience engagement. brands deal with the same thing. they may be massive engagement on tiktok but nothing on IG. I catch every Kyle Beats YT but dont really tune in on Spotify (sorry, from a fellow Kyle).

[@ledwabachris]

❤❤

[@LaCremeBeatz]

❤

[@moggingyou]

youtube producers make shitty music they are only good at content and tutorials but they’re beats usually sound like commercials

[@MrMannywell]

Respect

[@606808909]

Do people really wear hats in the house ?

[@Cadper-ty6ul]

I have 0 listeners except one of my friends, thats because i only make music for myself

[@sethmonroe9603]

I thought it was HILARIOUS that this guys talking about some producers being frauds, whole time he has a board in the background that he 1000% wouldn’t even know how to play a mp3 on. Aaaaand it’s green screened… LOL

[@waitroose]

I mean the dude wasn't wrong in many of his points. He was just saying the youtubers are doing something different and that it is fine too.

[@Weaverbeats]

yeah thats the joke sir

[@ojvic7297]

He wasn’t wrong..

[@sethmonroe9603]

@@Weaverbeats good one

[@J77199]

He literally said the opposite of that, he said they're not frauds just because they don't have Spotify plays. I swear the internet is ridiculous

[@kiah]

👀

[@justbrodie4148]

Dude if you give me one of your beats, it’s genuinely over, believe me

[@sulivelasco8938]

No one gonna mention Kenny Beats ?

[@DigDugger-hg1xb]

He untouchable :)

[@LeonLuckyV]

Give me a rock beat I’ll inspire an entire generation

[@ralfmoss]

I made 2 $ and 40c so far with my music 🤣🤣

[@Slimjimmy28]

The guy Kyle is watching looks wired asf

[@waelvub2154]

I dont like that kind of videos, just keep doin ur thing ils what u do best

[@etcot8220]

Music islike photography, if you doing it for the money or live from it, think again! In fact, it might be the problem. You gonna make more money collecting coins.

[@theoriginalneckbeard]

I just don't see any value in 99% of KZbin producers music. Most of their stuff is mediocre at best. If they'd actually be good and successful at doing music they wouldn't be full time KZbinrs aiming at clicks with corny titles and thumbnails.

[@tripsixkid]

Felt real

[@dnybeats5849]

I think when your really good at music you do t have to do youtube when I change a 1000 per mix an do 5 mix a week you don't have time for KZbin there all KZbinr

[@bjaume88]

This dude is a lil desilusional tryna diss nick mira for not having plays tbh. Nick is behind a bunch of juice world beats. Its like who he gon diss next, bo1da for not having hits on his name?

[@ROWNosferatu]

Spaz is sick🔥🔥

[@deoo]

Get me on your beats I’m fye 😊

[@larrytan73]

is Kenny Beats and Frank Dukes fan of your plugin? LOL! THEY TRASHED your plugin .It's the miracle plugin

[@persona8991]

Which

[@Rome1212ec]

realese officail audios on youtube forget about spotify. just like this channel. where is kyle collective on youtube. LOOK AT MR BEAST. he has more than 10 youtube chanels growning. JUST SAYING BRO. GET YOUR BAG.

[@abdullahiahmed3895]

lel

[@bpa-1cvallerueljrtaray100]

make beat for EZ MIL