True Temperament - Mattias Eklundh Guitar Lesson

[@solidus4prez]

2:49 the intonation was so perfect, you could hear the major third ringing

[@AbsoluteAbsurd]

Ikr, beautiful lmao

[@maciekzdzichowski]

I was wondering if someone heard that, it's so beautiful

[@jul3249]

True you totally could

[@dciccantelli]

I wondered if I was imagining that too. Nice to know I'm not crazy....lol

[@nopegoodluck420]

It's heavenly!

[@tezzo55]

That just blew my mind! 50 years of playing out of tune guitars. Like mortality, i'd just accepted that certain chords were out of tune and i biased the compromise towards my playing style. Isn't this thing called music the most amazing communal experience that just keeps growing!

[@tk3141]

Yeah - what a great way of putting it :-)

[@sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517]

Ever heard about fretless? ;D

[@myamarana69]

what a master of the harmonics and the whamy bar..

[@lex3729]

That comes from being a long-haired girly-man.

[@smittywarbenyagermangensen4860]

has nothing to do with frets, but whatever

[@natsterjam]

@@smittywarbenyagermangensen4860 Yeah, I find it ilogical to demonstrate harmonics but add distortion and use the whammy, making it instantly out of tune and back in to tune! Sorry but that is a shitty way to demo the harmonics in my opinion.

[@Chrisbell804]

And the volume pedal

[@alex.ann_der]

It's a pedal

[@johnaziz4464]

I'm annoyed at how much better this sounds than a regular guitar.

[@myself9030]

Honestly I don't like it it's too perfect you know? Sounds like midi

[@dainismichel]

i'm relieved...but want one!

[@f.s.street1916]

Shouldn't exist.

[@chrisking6695]

@@myself9030 That's just because your ears are used to how a normal guitar sounds. Ask a pianist about it. They love when a guitar is perfectly tuned.

[@MG-ln1yw]

@@chrisking6695 Thats a really poor argument, trust us, we now how a perfect midi guitar sounds like and we are very used to that sound too. And yes, its very boring.

[@aussie_philosopher8079]

This is without doubt one of the greatest guitar innovations ever

[@tonywatson8959]

i didn’t realize how much of a difference this would make until I heard it and it sent shivers down my spine

[@seanmcaleavy2369]

It IS fucking divine!!!!! I had no idea. I have been playing for almost 40 years and complaining about the tuneing and or intonation of every guitar I've ever picked up. Thank God! I was beginning to think my eardrums were warped or something. I need more of this, much more!

[@mrhalvi]

Come on man didn't anybody tell you that they sell guitar turners everybody uses them.

[@Markdaurelio331]

Complaining about the tuning not complaining about the tuneing.

[@gonssavm4048]

So this is equal temperament but done right?

[@fleksimir]

mr halvi your comment is so off point it's almost insulting haha. i hope you are trolling

[@sly_m]

Correct.

[@Prosecute-fauci]

I would like to see the process of crowning those frets

[@apinakapinastorba]

Check Crimson Guitars' channel ;D

[@sideoutside]

What he said. It's awful..

[@MM-vs2et]

Making copies are probably easy, the hard part is actually making it for the first time

[@Sockem1223]

Haha relax, the only thing he said was that he'd like to see how it's done.

[@bluejavelina5335]

im pretty sure these are just "disposable necks"

[@johnhuldt]

True Temperament is the best thing to happen to electric guitar since noice cancelling pickups. It’s amazing.

[@Wylie288]

Holy fucking shit you got scammed into buying noise cancelling pickups? You know they don't pick up sound right? They generate an electro-magnetic field. I hope you mean pickups that reduce the "hum" you can hear. Noise-cancelling is something else btw.

[@Orage530]

I've always struggled to get intonation just right. Never knew it was actually impossible.

[@MrMetallidude]

As a guitarist of nineteen years...this is like poetry to me. And he's a fellow swede, playing with swedish frets. Kinda awesome, I have to say.

[@barrykent9877]

And whole my life with my guitar never used was..... "I'm deaf!"... So, I tuned my guitar just for fun and just as I liked it... and I was sure I'm deaf and my guitar is broken... And today, after 20 years... :) I realised I was right and my guitar is good... Damn it! :) Thank you! All the best! :)

[@Nicmccu]

Sigh, those harmonics are dreamy

[@jongeetard1259]

Nicholas McCullough the harmonics were so beautiful that they made me cry :)

[@jobero5769]

It almost scares me how in tune it is.

[@mmaysed007]

Not rubbish as he shows factual information, however part of the fun of guitar is the magic of your fingers and how you apply pressure to the chords to create your own intonation. Perhaps he has perfect pressure throughout his left digits electing the need for such mathematics. I on the other hand delight in knowing I and my instrument are as closely related as possible and we together are like a cat on a fence, waiting for each other to slip and to see how we can recover together and make things work. I love IA and his inspired translation of the instrument. God bless and inspire!

[@chrisking6695]

You cannot achieve perfect intonation with finger pressure. A slight change in humidity and the neck moves and the required pressure changes. You're not a machine. So for those of us who have really sensitive ears a true temperament guitar remains a valid option.

[@spottedstar1123]

you have no idea how happy this makes me. it just sounds so beautiful

[@antonslayeranton6665]

I get this is the style the neo-classical ultra-precise guitar players want, but for me; imperfection is a part of the magic and humanity of rock and roll guitar.

[@Violence1320]

Finding beauty in the dissonance !!

[@itsfirstgrade9046]

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[@Violence1320]

:)

[@TheMythicalAce]

I take it you're inspired by Joe Walsh.

[@antonslayeranton6665]

Everett_Tech Nah man, Jimmy page

[@NikolajLepka]

correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't intonation depend on the gauge of the strings? if so, then putting on a different gauge would screw up the intonation again

[@rimska]

As far as I am aware, string gauge is not going to make a difference in intonation, you would just have to make adjustments/calibrations to the bridge, nut, and/or truss rod for higher or lower gauge strings. Most people probably don't know this, but pianos are not exactly in tune either. When tuned by a professional piano tuner, only the octaves, fourths, and fifths are tuned perfectly. All other intervals are slightly out of tune, so the piano tuner has to listen for a certain number of waves per second.

[@NikolajLepka]

Tim Goodwin actually only the octaves are in tune, everything is either slightly sharp or slightly flat. Minutephysics did a video on this

[@billwesley]

In actuality the octaves of pianos are stretched, so much so that the highest and lowest note on an 88 note keyboard differ by almost a quarter tone! The stretching is not equal across range ether by varies by need. Fifths and fourths are also stretched sharper than 12 equal so the 5th ends up a little bit closer to just intonation (a just fifth is tuned to a perfect 3/2 frequency ratio), but the fourth a little bit further sway from just intonation (a just fourth is tuned to a perfect 4/3 frequency ratio) A number of tunings are used depending on the type of piano and the methods of the tuner, my digital strobe tuning machine may be set to any of a variety of different piano tunings with different properties.

[@SteelSkin667]

You are actually correct. When you get true temperament frets done for a guitar, they are made with a specific range of string gauges in mind, with a little bit of wiggle room so that you can get back to reasonable intonation by adjusting the octave at the bridge/nut.

[@braxtonjennings8487]

it kind of looks like it would make bends unpredictable.

[@Lohengrin1966]

No, it doesn‘t, you get used to how to bend at each fret that it sounds like you want it

[@Hazztech]

Bends still work just fine, don't worry

[@martin6315]

It does not

[@givemeajackson]

it does't.

[@tk3141]

apparently not...

[@ChrisChronos]

Been playing professionally for 15 years, and I always hated the fact that when i play a harmonic and fret together there is a dissonance there. I never realised anyone has corrected this! Thank you for this video

[@Umbra_Nazgul]

How does his whammy harmonics ring so clearly and sustain that long despite being on a clean sounding channel? He's barely using any gain.

[@AveCastGames]

3:56 yes

[@samdavies1752]

I find the disonance quite pleasing

[@Hamsterzilla1349]

Because you're used to it.

[@garrusn7702]

Bayart That's why we find any tuning system pleasing. You have to get used to it.

[@zerglin9000]

Let just go find a harmonically out of tune system and use that. Like fuckin 6 tet or some shit.

[@GabeWilliams]

zerglin9000 there's always microtonal XD

[@kevinmuller9948]

12 Tone Equal Temperament, which this fretting system gives you, still has more than enough dissonance. It's like a modern piano basically. You only get rid of the nasty bits.

[@TheSimonScowl]

That is the coolest HEADSTOCK I believe I have ever seen. Gorgeous axe!

[@Sioum]

Truly is divine! Thanks MusicOff and Mattias!

[@tangobayus]

I'm playing in open D major all the time. I find if I tune for sustain (first harmonic can be heard) then the intonation is pretty good. I think standard tuning is part of the problem. I also like the effect of sympathetic harmonics coming out as I play.

[@scaredypicker]

It's cool, but doesn't that just all go out of the window as soon as you change the tuning?

[@KJoe666]

Just get a guitar for every tuning

[@sandygrungerson1177]

get Robo-tuners

[@scaredypicker]

KJoe666 they'd have to actually make one like this for every tuning with the correct spacing

[@therealzilch]

Theoretically, unless you change the string parameters, you would need a different spacing of frets for every different tuning. But this applies just as much to a normally fretted guitar. In any case, for anything but extreme different tunings, it's not a huge problem

[@markvickroy6725]

Dat Boi are you joking or just a tool?

[@JeannieSargent]

I've a real hard time playing any of my guitars anymore.. one day they just stopped sounding in tune and it really annoys my ears. I'm thankful there's a solution! Also, when you were speaking between the chords 'professionally', I was cracking up over here!

[@458scuderia]

The imperfect intonation gives guitars human like voice qualities thus adding soul to music, this sounds more like a synth .

[@dplumpp]

Totally agree, this is an incredible technological achievement for guitar, but I prefer the traditional sound.

[@roquegabrielroque]

Agora eu entendi. Isso é o que acontece quando você entrega uma guitarra para um afinador de pianos. Essa guitarra continua no sistema temperado, a única diferença é que, assim como fazem os afinadores de piano, cada nota é afinada individualmente com aparelhos eletrônicos que não medem apenas a frequência da nota, mas também sua intonação para corrigir a desarmonia (efeito no qual a frequencia medida das notas não corrsponde ao som percebido) própria dos intrumentos de corda. "To attain optimal intonation possibilities when applying a specific temperament on a string instrument of the type described, all of the note positions on the instrument's fretboard must normally be corrected. Manufacturing of the device according to the invention demands thereby that the note at every note position on the fretboard be monitored, suitably with a microphone, and its frequency measured. This requires sensitive measuring equipment, for example a frequency counter or stroboscope tuner. Auditory monitoring can of course also be used." Para que isso seja possível na guitarra é necessário trocar as cordas por um modelo de cordas comprimidas com fibra de vidro, por isso a guitarra apresenta maior sustain e estabilidade na afinação. "The invention also relates to strings for string instruments comprised of a glass-metal material. These strings have very long sustain, and due to this material's unique combination of strength and flexibility these strings show superior durability and intonation characteristics." Então não se trata de uma afinação perfeita, assim como acontece no piano, a afinação permanece no sistema temperado e mantém uma ligeira desafinação das notas quando comparado à instrumentos não temperados, mas ainda assim pretende oferecer uma afinação superior a das guitarras tradicionais, sob o custo de impossibilitar bends e ficar preso a compra de cordas de modelo específico dessa marca. Citações retiradas da patente deles: www.google.com/patents/US7728210

[@bigstudwithaguitar]

Warning to all, alternate tunings are tuned to make certain keys sound better. In this case, it's actually made to make first string base not chords sound better, so you'll notice he didn't play anything but first string major shapes... there's a reason for that. He didn't play a g chord (the most prominent chord in all of guitar) He didn't play a c-chord (The most prominent key in all of classical music) He didn't play anything in A minor, D minor, etc... Unfortunately, this is simply an unsolvable problem. Take the C# on your 5th string for instance. If you use your open 1st string (E) at the node NEAR the 4th fret on a standard guitar, you will find that it's 10 cents off... how annoying. But if you move the fret 10 cents flat to fix it... make no mistake, the note will sound better. Happy day for you. :) BUT... if you play anything in any other key that calls for a c#, you will find that the c# is not in tune with those things. So... this isn't to say that a guitar like this is useless... it's not. It's a nice thing to have if you often do certain harmonic tricks like he demonstrated... but just know that when you shut a door in God's face, he'll open a window and let out the air conditioning out. The most VERSATILE setup... is the one you already have on a standard fretted guitar. It's not perfect, but at least every single fret is concert pitch.

[@TruthSurge]

finally, someone who actually understands how musical frequencies and fretted instruments work. You CANNOT have perfect (just) intonation using a fretted instrument except if you ONLY play one shape of chord all the time. That's why Ed VH detuned his B string so that when he played the B string as a maj 3rd, it was butter. But try any other chords while your B string is detuned.... hot garbage. But... he did that to make those A shape chords massively in tune (Runnin With The Devil is prob the most famous example). This fret system is nothing but a scam because it pretends to be intonated perfectly in ALL cases and that is misinforming the public.

[@Coolnicewow]

@@TruthSurge You're both confused by the name "true temperament". The guitar is true EQUAL temp, so THIS is actually the guitar that has concert pitch at every fret. Any chord in any shape is tuned like you would hear it on a perfectly tuned piano, which is not the case with straight frets. Your Ed VH example is literally the problem these frets fix.

[@BMessemer]

Liked and subbed. What a fun energy this man brings to the topic of the joy of being able to play in tune in ways we can't with a standard guitar. BTW folks, I came here from Tolgahan Çoğulu's channel. Highly recommend you all to check it out - he's not a rock player but he's an absolute beast classical player and he plays music from many cultures that you're probably not familiar with which are going to blow your hair back. The rabbit hole of tuning is deep, friends. Happy listening.

[@Giofergom]

Awesome harmonics and squeals and all. Now do a bend.

[@musicoffcommunity]

We repeat for the hundredth time ;) , you can bend without any problem. ;) ---> kzbin.info/www/bejne/opvRnZKvba-mg9U

[@Preston_Rowe]

lol

[@Filaqosik]

that's combined with the evertune bridge, you can't change the note by bending a string with that :D

[@eznack1489]

A bend has nothing to do with the shape of the fret. You bend up to the note you want by ear, the frets make the sound possible but your ear and how far you bend the string determines the note

[@SrbijaCG]

yeah, but instead of slowly and beautifully flowing as you bend a string following a straight fret, if you were to bend on true temperament fretboard, given the shape of the "perfected" fret the note might (or most likely/definitely would) change a bit further than you would actually want it to. so it kinda seems as if the guitar is pretty much a rhythmicly perfected guitar. so I guess this would perfectly fit a rhythm guitarist (who in my opinion are INSANELY underrated).

[@tonymoliterni]

Si las cosas nacen mal desde un primer momento no importa que sea en nombre del arte, están mal y hay que corregirlas. Lo realmente artístico es el ser humano detrás del instrumento. Voto por esta guitarra.

[@jethrobarnett3352]

I'm not very educated on intonations, but should it have the same / similar effect if the nut shape was changed instead of the frets

[@MetalMarauder]

Jethro Thomas Barnett no

[@cakeisamadeupdrug6134]

There's no point in changing the nut. Tune the strings so that all of the notes are correct when open, then the frets are adjusted so that each semi-tone of each string going up the neck is the correct tuning

[@ntodd4110]

Amazing. It sounds so true! You realize you've spoiled my ears for all other guitars...

[@KillTheJester]

So are these frets calibrated for only one type of tuning (Say E standard)? Or can you tune your guitar in any way you want (Drop C, Open D, etc) without having to change the positions of the frets?

[@xxXthekevXxx]

I think it should work with any tuning, as the fretting system is based on string gauge, not tuning.

[@xxXthekevXxx]

Well i just watched another video and the commenters were saying you can only play in standard. I don't see why this would be the case, but they probably know more than i do.

[@KillTheJester]

It's so rare there aren't much people who know this I guess. Thanks for replying! I will discover the secret some day.

[@fallinghazard-thinlizzytribute]

Gerard Cornet I use True Temperament and I play standard tuning, half a step down, a whole step down and drop D. No problem. Perfectly intonated. However when you detune very much, say down to B, you need a slightly different intonation, which they also have. The B-tune True Temperament.

[@brettgarsed]

I'm amazed at the true temperament frets of course but jeez, the PLAYING!!!! Mattias is a freak. (Kitchen).

[@musicoffcommunity]

What an honor to see you here Brett! Thanks for your comment and yes, Mattias is a freaking genius 🧡🔥

[@HUMFREX]

Close is good enough for me. I don't need perfect

[@andsalomoni]

Close is the only possibility (at least in this material world). It is actually impossible to get a perfectly intoned guitar even with these special frets, because the strings of the guitar (like piano strings) don't produce perfect harmonic sounds, especially at the higher frets. If you play octaves, there will always be some frequencies that collide and produce beatings. I have spent many nights awake trying to do the perfect setup on my guitars, and I've seen that octave notes on different strings and frets that were perfectly in tune for the electronic tuner, produced audible beats! The only reasonable thing to do is to get a well built guitar (to have consistent frets) and search for the best compromise set up solution. It's an art, not hard science.

[@llamamusicchannel7688]

Yea I honestly didn't here a different except for that his tone is terrible

[@pedrova8058]

I thought about the 3rd. Those frets are designed so that the major 3rds (that we do between the 4th and 3rd strings) sound almost like a natural 3rd (the mayor 3ds in 12EDO slightly "sharper" than a natural 3rd, that's why they "beat" in a correct tuned piano) But what happens if I do other intervals with that G string? a fifth (between the 4th and 3rd string) will be "narrower" than a 12EDO 5th (and even smaller than a natural 5th (3/2 in Pythagorean tuning)) What about a fourth (between 4th string and 3rd string)?? will also be "smaller" than a perfect 4th in 12EDO. A 6th? Correct me if I'm wrong, but those frets only work with the first positions of the basic chords. With other positions/intervals (chord inversions, intervals longer than a 3rd ( those that include the G string of course)) important intonation mismatches will be noticed.

[@chrisneary8538]

I like the fact this is comment number 440

[@rucasolo5021]

432 would be more harmonious

[@moki2093]

@@rucasolo5021 432 = gay

[@fingerhorn4]

The most common problem is the G string, particularly on classical guitars, which due to its relative thickness and lower tension compared with other strings, nearly always has to be set flat in order to avoid gross sharpness when played as a major third higher up. But this can be somewhat compensated for by inserting a small fret at the G string below the nut. That makes open G sharper so you can then flatten it for the open G and it won't go so sharp when fingering higher. The goal should be to at least match the equal temperament tuning of a piano, but of course the piano sounds more acceptable because it has richer overtones on the lower notes. Richer overtones somewhat hides the anomolies in tuning better than most guitars. That is why a guitar with overdrive or distortion can sound acceptably in tune while a plain, unamplified guitar is perceived to be almost untunable unless you re-tune for a given piece.

[@mobrris123]

But... if you play in a band with a piano, a bass and another guitarrist, Wouldn´t you be the one that is "out of tune"?

[@reineh3477]

A piano has one string for each key and electric pianos has none so I don't think it would. With other guitar and bass players, maybe

[@lqr824]

Yes. This instrument is in just intonation. It will match with drums of course, and singers adjust to match such an instrument, as would a fretless bass player or violinist. (They might have a problem with their open strings not being on a just intoned scale but any note they fret they'll fret to match the guitar.) Some synths can match this scale, like my software synth shown at kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIOaloywoq-sZtk . (This vid shows it sliding between standard equal-temperament and just intonation via a knob, but you can simply do one or the other or any other tuning you want.) If the other guitar players are ALSO playing a just-intoned guitar then they'll match too. However, unless you're playing long notes, the tuning differents aren't necessarily a showstopper. For instance piano's low bass notes are lower, and high treble higher, than other instruments, due to "stretch tuning" that is required to make the piano sound in tune with itself. Hammond organs' A notes are A440 but no other notes precisely match an equal-tempered scale, due to the ratios between frequencies being derived by the number of teeth on their gear chain, which is always an integer, and never the irrational number you need to nail equal temperament. Despite these problems few people ever think the piano or organ is out of tune with the band, and likewise I don't think the guitar would necessarily sound out of tune. I'll grant it would make something sound off somewhere maybe.

[@miki890098]

@@lqr824 sorry, but I think it actually is in equal temperament, otherwise you wouldn't be able to play in any tonality except the one it is tuned to, which isn't specified while it should be very important. The problem with straight fret guitars is that for a sum of various factors, they're not able to be in tune on every string at every fret, so even if you play the same note at the same pitch on every string possible, it's not gonna be 100% accurate, but it is transcurable because it is just a small difference, but still not perfect. What this frets do is correct all the little defects brought by straight frets, so that you can play in a true 12-tone equal temperament, therefore being as in tune as a piano, which has every single string tuned to a precise frequency so that the distance between semitones is always the same, therefore playing in any tonality doesn't affect the general tuning of the scale. So I would say playing in any ensemble, this guitar would be more in tune with fixed tuning instruments such as a piano or for example a harp, while other guitars or basses with straight frets would sound out of tune.

[@miki890098]

@@lqr824 plus I never heard of the "stretch" tuning on a piano, also because the only just interval on a piano is the octave, and that remains in tune all the way trough the keyboard, as on every other instrument

[@MrSipi1988]

​@@miki890098 This is what I agree with. Now with these wobbled frets your guitar has a "piano-style" tuning where all the buttons has an independent exact frequency which should be on that particular note. But this has nothing to do with the temperature system. It is still an equaled temperatured instrument. Because you need to play in every tonality. If it would be true temperatured, you would need to have different guitars for the show in the same tuning pitch just for the different keys, which is impossible when you are changing the harmonies in a song. If that guitar would really true temperatured what is the point of the fretless instruments? I don't think it is true temperatured, just the slightly tuning problems fixed with this. If I am stupid let me know, but it makes me confused why everybody says these instruments true temperatured. IMO they are not, they are still equal temperatured. 99,99% of music are written equal temperatured in the last 100x years. Our ears got used to it. Some of us could hear the true temperatured music as an out of tune music or at least weird.

[@VideosVonDennis]

Damn. On 5 guitars I always re-tune the G and B string, depending on what chords or notes I play and depending if solo or rythm, or depending at which fret I play. I got used to the imperfection, but it sometimes can be annoying indeed.

[@victoramicci840]

2:02 I JUMPED

[@dalepres1]

I see I'm years late to this party but I just learned about these frets. I always thought it was just me and that I wasn't any good at setting intonation on my guitar; now I understand that it's a physics issue and why these true temperament frets are the solution. Oh, sure, guitars sounded good for centuries without this but even my terrible ears were able to appreciate the beautiful result of these frets. It reminds me of why we finally gave in and bought an LCD TV years ago. My argument was that there was never any problem with my 25" CRT TV. But this is like Blue-Ray compared to that 25". Just because we didn't know how bad the picture was, or at least how good it might be, didn't mean there was nothing wrong with it.

[@TheCymbalProject]

2:02

[@christothegreat1]

Have you ever tried the Earvana nut. It does the same to fix the guitar's intonation problem by slightly changing the individual lengths of the strings and string tension, instead of changing the frets physical position.

[@benjaminaristotleboes3157]

The bridge already does that....

[@keigen95]

Dude wtf......how are those harmonics happening?

[@matthewcannata5883]

Warlock..F. the amp is turned up hard

[@endezeichengrimm]

finger on string

[@AbsoluteAbsurd]

Lmao these two ^

[@benjaminaristotleboes3157]

Which ones?

[@benjaminaristotleboes3157]

You must be more specific....

[@RunFool]

Still working of affording a decent guitar so these frets are still far away for me, but I get why these will be really helpful. A guitar that has good tone AND is in perfect tune can really inspire the player. They are easier to play, practice and compose on too.

[@foadrightnow5725]

In all my years of playing I have never heard of this guy. Quite a capable player. And the guitar sounds great! Gonna have to do some more research on true-temperament guitars.

[@dzre2087]

Check out some of Mattias' music on YT. He's one of the only metal guitarists who INNOVATE instead of ape the past alone.

[@fvneral666]

This is how a piano is tuned :) same principle - temperament tuning! This sounds amazing!

[@Prometheus4096]

Uuh no.?

[@CrazedGin]

He would be the kind of guy to use the tremolo to demonstrate a guitar instead of just using a pick.

[@MMMo-vt1jh]

Even as someone who just plays cause i like to I noticed a huge difference in quality from my lp! It sounds amazing! I wanna do this to my epi now!

[@adamsmith13real]

Must be shitty to actually have such good hearing. Personally, I like my shitty guitars with the terrible action. It's bluesy, it's rock and roll.

[@Jrockten]

Jeez, I need to pick myself up one of these, ever since I became a pianist with equal temperament keys, my guitar never sounded good to me again

[@jjptech]

1:20 do you know what is scaring the shit out of me? that the automatic english subtitles generator of youtube is taking all the words correctly with no mistakes... The end is near boys and girls!

[@dzre2087]

lR0NY: AT lTS M0ST EVlL... SKYNET could never ever compete with good, er, bad ol' humans! (Ala how self driving cars could NEVER crash as much as humans do!) Bring it on, ultron!

[@deadeyes2803]

i remember 8 years ago when it was like super funny and fucked up translations

[@charliefoxtrotthe3rd335]

Yeah, that is nice. I need to know if you can still bend notes the same and if you are tied to standard tuning. I will have to research this before I judge whether or not I can use this type of guitar.

[@FacePomagranate]

So if this makes your guitar intonate equal temperament better, why demonstrate all the harmonics? Mathematically, unless harmonics are octaves of the note, they will not be 100% in tune with an equal temperament note. You could theoretically fret the guitar so it's in tune with the harmonics, but it would only be effective in one key. Unless it's a fretless guitar.

[@musicoffcommunity]

+FacePomagranate He's not only playing the overtones, but the harmonics and the same notes on the fretboard to show that they are perfectly tuned and do not create the annoying chorus/tremolo effect that often occurs on the "normal" guitars, specially with distortion.

[@FacePomagranate]

+MusicOff - La grande comunità online per musicisti Harmonics are your overtones. Either this guitar is tuned to equal temperament, or it's tuned to harmonics. You can't have both; it's been a huge challenge since the beginning of western music theory.

[@musicoffcommunity]

+FacePomagranate The true temperament corrects the slight error between notes and harmonics when you play both. It works, as you can hear. ;)

[@TomWinspear]

+FacePomagranate It is neither EDO or Just Intonation - It is a temperament, and yes the guitar is limited to the tuning and gauges it's set for, and sounds slightly different playing in each key

[@backslash68]

I wanted to say the exact same thing! these frets are meant to produce the exact frequencies for equal temperament, but equal temperament *by design* never gives the same frequencies that you get at the harmonics (unless they are at the 12th or 24th fret). It's just two different mathematical formulas: the notes in equal temperament are given by an exponential formula, while harmonics are given by a fractional formula. The frequencies they give out, are slightly different (again, save for the root note and its octaves)

[@UptempoMusicLessons]

The harmonic overtones don't care where the frets are, they are of zero consequence to the harmonics, as long as you know where they are located. :)

[@marcospintor1333]

So when you bring that guitar to band practice, you’ll be the only one that will sound off lol

[@richardstevens4230]

Unwound G strings always fret sharp. Noticed that the frets took care of this. Equal tempermant exists because just intonation doesn't work with key changes. I play intervals on my fretless bass, but only solo, because it would clash with other instruments

[@las10plagas]

I think there is a reason why frets have been straight for 500 years ;-) but keep exploring, if you have the time and money

[@bakedutah8411]

Dude, same reason people died of bacterial infections for tens of thousands of years or more.

[@yasSGM]

BEAUTIFUL TONE!

[@nikoskazakos9510]

I get the appeal but it's too perfect for me. When you hear a choir singing, the reason it sounds so huge and full is because no one is on the exact same pitch. They are hitting all the right notes (if all goes well) but aren't perfect to every cent. They might be ten cents off, maybe less or maybe more. If they were all hitting the exact same pitches for each note it would be loud, but it wouldn't sound any bigger than a lone trumpet player. There are so many different factors that control intonation, such as string thickness and the relative thickness of the strings you're using, the age of strings (we all know old strings don;t stay in tune well), how hard you press on the fret board and where you press, vibrato, the composition of your strings and plectrum (or lack thereof if using fingers), and that lovely thing called the weather. If you use this in a band, everyone else is going to have to be perfectly on pitch for it to have any effect. The bass player would have to have a true temperament fretboard too, and that's going to be just about impossible considering the strings basses have. And if they're playing an upright bass or a fretless bass (which they very well could be, seeing as I can see a lot of jazz and metal guitarists liking these) it's going to sound way off. That's just one musician out of the whole band though, everyone else would also have to have perfect pitch, which realistically will never happen. It would only ever sound really good if you were a solo guitar player, or someone like Stanley Jordan, where the guitar is the only lead instrument and everything else is kinda backing it up. It also essentially renders the chorus pedal a redundant tool, seeing as chorus just splits the audio and delays one section of the signal, so it sounds slightly out of time and pitch. Which isn't a big deal, I just love the sound of a good chorus pedal. Last reason is that we're all so used to the sound of a regular guitar with barred frets, and as you said, it's been that way for hundreds of years. I think if it was such a huge deal someone would have fixed it along the line, and if it isn't broken don't try and fix it. To me this is an experiment for a mathematician, not a musician. It sounds amazing on its own, I'd definitely consider using it for writing and playing at home, but never in a band and never for a gig. I can't imagine it cutting through or fitting in with the rest of the band.

[@gasfr]

You are ignoring the fact that every note on guitar you hit has the primary note AND the overtones. It still has that tonal richness/complexity with true temperament. And even with TT you are free to multitrack and tune each overdub/different guitar slightly out of tune a few cents. The guitar will be internally consistent so to speak still though but simpler to the chorus effect you mention

[@terrypussypower]

Freaky Niki Tell that to Steve Vai! He swears by these necks!

[@playandteach]

You're forgetting that singers can and do adjust their pitch to true temperament of some sort - especially major 3rds.

[@dnarbredlih]

The reason multiple people singing together sounds bigger is not because of tuning imperfections, but the different tonalities of every single persons’ voice. Being in tune is never a negative unless you’re purposefully trying to create an effect with poor intonation.

[@jayhelbers6433]

I actually think that choirs sound full because of good tuning. When two pitches are perfectly in tune, for example a perfect fifth, there will be difference tones because of the way sound works, and so two notes (1 and 5) sound like four notes (add an octave below and a third in the octave above). This is how good barbershop quartets are judged, for example. You can actually hear examples of this in the video at some points

[@daverenick4782]

You know the inventor? It's quite brilliant. I just bought a great sounding vintage acoustic...but I just have to deal with the problems you discuss. The Feiten tuning system partially helps but this attacks the issue at it's root...correcting an imperfect fret-placing ratio that does not account for string thicknesses,as it was explained to me...Once i saw some footage of Wes Montgomery playing and joking about the constant re tuning....and Hendrix in concert had his hand by the tuning pegs all the time to quickly fix things while playing...but with an ear like that....it probably doesn't matter.......

[@Noone-of-your-Business]

Okay, that's impressive. But you should not create the impression that "true temperament" tuning is the final word - perfect tuning (having flawless intervalls in *every* possible combination of single notes) is *mathematically impossible*; hence the existence of two different tuning systems side by side in classical music without a clear "winner" in this competition. It is just about at what you are willing to compromise about; you always have to sacrifice one aspect for the other.

[@musicoffcommunity]

In many ways you're right and there is no "final" almost nothing on this earth, but it is important to understand that Mattias has never had in mind to say that the true temperament is the holy grail for all, a "must have". The most controversial threads, paradoxically, are created by people in their comments. Mattias, in fact, is simply at ease in playing with such a guitar and says us why. After which, the important thing is to play well and happy! ;)

[@palibakufun]

But having a guitar that has perfect equal temperament is as good as it can get. Pianos will also never be 100% exactly in tune either, because just tuning sucks to do on anything besides fretless instruments and wind instruments.

[@allenlark]

None of your Business $$ there're a whole lot more than two temperaments in classical music.

[@therealzilch]

I agree with everyone here. But we should be careful to separate the two problems here: the physical one caused by how different strings need to be fretted in different positions to get the same intervals, and the temperament problem caused by the impossibility of creating a scale with a finite number of tones, every interval of which is just. Here's a multifret guitar playing non- 12 tone equal temperament: soundcloud.com/scott-wallace-189088488/just-fun If anyone's curious how polymetric just music sounds on a double harp, check this out: soundcloud.com/scott-wallace-189088488/just-fun cheers from sunny Vienna, Scott

[@KVImmortal]

I LOOOOVE the idea but what gives the beauty of the squeals to me is the micro contrast between the note and the harmonic

[@gavinreid8351]

One guitar would be necessary for each key for this to work correctly. Fretted stringed instruments and pianos are tuned at a compromise to cover all keys and the modes equally.

[@TruthSurge]

shhhhhh the idiots are going to bash you for having what's known as KNOWLEDGE!

[@MetalMarauder]

That’s not true at all, the shape of the frets here are a closer approximation or Equal temperament.

[@caixiuying8901]

the frets here are still in equal temperament

[@caspermaster-com]

Did you watch the video XD ?

[@richardstevens4230]

True tempermant is more actually termed well tempered. Hence the clavier suites

[@sonja_rademacher]

Oh my gosh, I NEED that guitar. It is like balm in Gilead for my ears!

[@coreyharmon6999]

I find this really amazing on the engineering side, but in the same breath it makes it have less life to me. Idk why. I feel the same with anything that's too perfect. Life isn't perfect and art imitates life. Again, the engineering of this is superb and downright genius. Given the opportunity to switch over though, I'd still pick my "out of tune" Tele and J45.

[@tonymoliterni]

Si las cosas nacen mal desde un primer momento no importa que sea en nombre del arte, están mal y hay que corregirlas. Lo realmente artístico es el ser humano detráas del instrumento.

[@plutusryker2353]

Straight frets are equal temperament. Putting individual frets in each string is well temperament. So how do you install individual frets in each string? Are there metal patches that you can easily stick in the finger board?

[@patricklosiniecki8503]

This reminds me of when Rick made a truly flat surface for Morty and then he started freaking out when he was taken out. I didn't realize how imperfect my guitars were.

[@dylanfreedom1256]

I'm freaking out right now.

[@dylanfreedom1256]

I'm not doing okay.

[@EDEN-LIMINAL]

People, use a tuner. The very offsets of this system (which are in their web) are going to translate into "sometimes better and sometimes not"...on the other hand, equal temperament is, well, equaled. The "barre chords sound better"...first read the offsets, count the intervals, use a tuner, then talk. Regarding the harmonics: the offsets are g+4, d+2, a fretted D is 698 cents over G...so, it is 4 cents off of what it should be (702 cents). Count the rest of intervals, starting with fifths, use a tuner and you will be surprised. Just because you are hearing something different does not mean it is perfectly intonated.

[@Ricken2022]

I will stick to playing my old geetar the old way...the millions of concerts that have been played the old way, all those recordings the old way...and all that music who would have thought the guitars were not true from 1 to 22..

[@PrinceWesterburg]

+RICK J Wendy Carlos did a load of recordings using pure tunings (check out Beauty and the Beast) and which are perfectly tuned. Each new chord sounds horribly out of tune, then you realise it is perfect and the next sounds awful next to it, but it is perfect etc. Put it another way; about 30 years ago someone developped a way fo getting the flesh of grapes away from the skin, seeds, stalk etc. They made wine and it was super pure, gve you no hangover but had virtually no taste.

[@6789drummerdude]

Who is that guitar player? He is super awesome

[@XantheDeimos]

press 5, you're welcome

[@geoffreycheuvart9228]

Hello, is it possible to change mode with true temperament frets ? I mean the note that are common to different mode (with equal temperament) won't be the same with true temperament, right ? exemple: the E of C major is not the same than the E of A major. does the guitar need to be tuned specifically according to the desired key ?

[@janpeters-jansongsproducti1010]

Honestly, when you first play the bar chords up and down, they simply do not sound 'better' than other guitars that are 'in tune' and set up well. One thing I've always had is great ears. And of course it's impossible to tune a guitar, or anything, 'perfectly'. But those bar chords sound just as good as, well, anyone's who is a decent handler of the thing.

[@tarnicasper4632]

Nice playing!, are you using an octave up device or just technique?

[@in3432]

Brilliant video. I like your teaching style.

[@zuperzwede7634]

400 years ago they had moveable frets made from guts.

[@nacienlos70]

Sounds amazing, but to play blues, (with all the bendings) or other styles, well I am not sure. Would have to try which is going to be rather difficult (have you seen the price tag?).

[@JM-co6rf]

NOTICE he's only playing in the shape of E? You'd need a guitar equally tempered for every chord shape

[@karloz714]

Jesus Christ I can hear everything so clear! 🤯

[@omercanbakkalci]

now do a bend :D

[@musicoffcommunity]

+Ömercan Bakkalcı You can do it without any problem ;) Read about it on the true temperament website :)

[@reiniervanzwieten7092]

i was gonna say that

[@eskoriakiebraqeyo7942]

magnificent comment, now do a smart one :D

[@uwilly23]

So is this just trying to do just intonation tuning, in which case how do you deal with key changes, the whole reason people switch to equal temperament, is because you would need a different set of notes for ever key you wanted to play in. Or is this something specific to just guitars?

[@kevinnel7038]

The chords sound nice but I kinda like the dissonance that equal temperament adds

[@pinetree4600]

He plays on Jason Becker's Valley of Fire.

[@Johaneeeek]

If a normal guitar is good enough for jimi hendrix, its good enough for me too

[@vixzen8892]

I just go with the sound the guitar makes I love it

[@citadelasoundproduction9412]

It sounds AMAZING, BUT you'd need a guitar for each key.

[@Asgaia]

Hi, this fretshape must depend on the string gauges and the relation of string gauges (thick to thin or thicker to thinner, if you know what I mean) and the actual pitch (standard E versus standard B). And the adjustmenst on the bridge should correct some of the offsets. I mean it seems that the 12th fret is straight and all others are shaped accourding to the real pitch. (btw. chromatic or temperatured or pure for e minor?) Why not make the 5th fret (and the 0th or course) straight, make brigde adjustmebst and shape than all othes? Especially for rhymth guitars you play more choords on the lower frets instead on the 12th. Thomas

[@IvanLabrie]

My ears are pleased.

[@calebjorstaad6128]

That sustain is KILLER

[@Xianpaul0523]

I almost quit playing guitar because no matter how I tuned my guitar, no matter how perfectly I have intonated it, my ears still telling me it is out of tune. Im kindda frustrated, but thank God I found this video, now I know guitars cant be tuned perfectly.

[@buddahcrib]

Oh maaaaan these divebombs harmonics... Salute!

[@diamondmidnightgardener]

my ears love this.... this is guitar paradise! I want one

[@summerof6967]

Pls do a sound comparison between straight and temparament frets.

[@Leotheleprachaun]

I've seen other videos and they just played or showed off the frets, they didn't break it down as to why they are actually better. Those harmonics and the corresponding notes sound so much friggin better than standard frets, and THAT'S what the others were missing.