Must Watch - Floyd Shivambu vs Tito Mboweni - Mind-Games

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[@thabothubane6607]

Mboweni got that dawg in him.😂😂😂😂

[@edith_booi]

And Ndlozi always smiling is just... 👌🏾

[@edith_booi]

I just love how Shivambu speaks❤️ speaking every word with emphasis😍

[@bulelanimemela8329]

ANC is out of ideas tito must lay low he played his role since the 80s

[@nkululekodecember5967]

Mboweni is adored by South Africans just like Ramaposa the play mind games you can't beat them in it.they have been in this game since the 80s

[@JohnShiweda]

Interesting...l like south Africa parliament,EFF warriors make me to like it

[@jabubrian1824]

Lolz Tito just gracefully took Floyd to school 😂 😂

[@primop6478]

... "until maybe I release the forensic report. Then you will be in trouble." This statement is rich...!!!

[@fizzille3035]

If they had anything against the EFF they would’ve gotten rid of it a long time ago they wouldn’t wanna use treats they’d wanna deal with it decisively

[@primop6478]

@@fizzille3035 Agreed. However, I am not implying that 'they' do not have anything against EFF. Probably dealing with the EFF as you suggest is not really the main priority here as far as 'their' politics are concerned. Also, you must remember that EFF does still keep a good balance as far as opposition is concerned whichever way you look at it.

[@thabephalane8961]

Molome tito,....i think u played chess,....tito balome😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@leroyzwane2097]

I believe Mboweni has a huge job to do so helping him instead of trying to crush him is no ideal

[@gaositwemabuela6806]

Listen closely, Floyd was trying to help.

[@boitumelophawe6162]

Economics lecture and think tanker Floyed Shivambu

[@lebogangngoako9675]

Floyd is too good for the whole ANC

[@Decypha77]

I feel sorry for anyone who believes Shivambu. Telling you Capitalism is bad while living in Sandton, driving Range Rovers bought with money stolen from poor people in Limpopo and convincing you that land will fix your problems.

[@elvismalakoane9752]

Shivambu is a big capitalist actually he is benefiting from capitalist set up 100 times than average South African

[@viwendzamela9871]

you are out of your mind

[@uLazaru_icelibrity]

@@Decypha77 proved that (proof) he is

[@Eulendarm]

​@@Decypha77hebanna

[@shitshembisobrian8200]

tito is the only anc who can stand up against our EFF

[@gaositwemabuela6806]

He failed the intellectual capacity to advance in this debate. Solid question by Floyd but he failed to answer it ideologically and I believe that is because it might be true that George Soros and Investec as mentioned are influencing Eskom.

[@thembelanimkhize7918]

This is deep 😂

[@kwanomathebula4011]

Tito Mboweni just nuked the EFF from space 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kabelokgoele1827]

There is absolutely nothing intellectual about the content of Minister Mboweni"s response, the Question and perspective is, those particular professors work with establishments that drive regime charge in developing countries to further enrich capitalist that steal from developing nations in one way or the other, i think people just turn to fall in love with media driven figures without understanding context and content.

[@nsovobaloyi1864]

@@kabelokgoele1827 Watch again. He clearly points out that there were at least 47 other professors. Floyd is only worried about 3 and their link to Investec, hence, his comments about VBS

[@matomemoroko5401]

Tito just confirmed his inferiority complex and sucks up to anything white.

[@jabubrian1824]

Lolz we just witnessed a Hiroshima all over again. Damn 😂 😂

[@mbusomthimkhulu8136]

Floyd had a valid question. But than again, to think that 3 professors had more influence over at least 40 other professors just because they are from Harvard, is undermining our intellect as South African scholars

[@celimpilocelly7869]

age is speaking

[@squattakamper7045]

youth is sinking

[@lungikubheka7528]

😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄

[@thenegotiator3896]

Until I release a forensic report than you will be in trouble 😂🤣🤣🤣 shaking a small boy madala 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MasterVixMk]

Brian is telling the truth.

[@phumlaniminamabunda9518]

Sha sha😂

[@mbusonkabinde3330]

Shivambu, the think tank.

[@malde5692]

And Mmusi Maimane just resigned now now as I speak South African wake up DA is no good

[@tulifranz9336]

Mal De , for years, Maimane was warned to leave the DA and he did not listen. Look at what they did with Ms Patricia de Lille. Let it be a warning to the previous disadvantage in the DA, leave, Pumzile van Damme leave the racists party.

[@marykingdomchanger154]

His ideologies were never @ par with his party,sad that he is only making a move now

[@shibuya3185]

@@tulifranz9336 : There is no party more racist than the EFF. The DA is the only truly multi-racial party.

[@apexpradator2046]

@@shibuya3185 you can really talk nonsense

[@shibuya3185]

@@apexpradator2046 : Lol! You obviously haven't heard that Malema was found guilty by a black judge of hate speech, some years ago. Are you a racist like he is?

[@judymsomi2480]

Thank you Mr Mboweni,for calling to order these Newly Graduates who are asking Senseless questions which are not Moving the Nation Forward.

[@kabelokgoele1827]

Nothing intellectual about what Tito said, disappointing

[@Decypha77]

It wasn't the point, the point was that Shivambu shouldn't dumb down South African professors just because there were 3 Havard professors present.

[@elvismalakoane9752]

Tito is not a fake conman who hides behind verbosity to plunge and loot VBS or some passtime economics 101 criminal who turned to be a personality cult group member -Hate what our leader hates say what he wants to hear behave to his acceptability and keep being obnoxiously averse to hide our dirty ways and deflect attention from us

[@kabelokgoele1827]

@@elvismalakoane9752 I just fail to understand the logic we employ at times, using enca reporting for political analysis not that we are qualified though. What about the VBS? We can say Tito might be a sophisticated conman who hides behind some useless intellectual ego massage exercises that benefit the people with nothing, we don't care at all if your intellectual or semi intellectual or whatever, we want to see results and at this point these policy proposals bring nothing tangible. The entire political arena must learn from a man like Mashaba. If it works let's do it, stop this intellectual hoo haa and make things happen.

[@gaositwemabuela6806]

It's not about IQ, it's just a simple question which wasn't answered

[@titandalathepodcast8728]

I didnt expect Shivambu to coil...😆

[@musaamos1678]

Floyd Shivambu is 10 times better than Tito mboweni in terms of economic policy analysis tito mboweni must just retire and he has nothing good to improve the economic that has collapsed

[@Decypha77]

Yoh. South Africa is in lots of trouble if other people also believe that Floyd is better in economic policy analysis. Floyd Shivambu vs 50 professors from universities all over the country? Floyd is still better?

[@elvismalakoane9752]

Amos I don't think you are real maybe you like this Shivambu chap of yours so say it loud that you speak for yourself because Tito is not an idiot thief like Shivambu

[@siphosithole6415]

you mad you cant compared Mboweni with that stupid amoeba so called shivambu with wits qualifications unneeded here but Tito got british economics qualification so you better shut up you dont know anything !

[@officialthembadube4766]

So the minister failed to understand and answer the question. He just went all defensive on a simple question.

[@fogmist1946]

When u ask someone a question and they decide to attack u personally u must know that they can’t win the question

[@Decypha77]

This is assuming neoliberalism is wrong to begin with; his point on winning elections. EFF is ironically very wrong on solutions related to economics. Read Zimbabwe, Read Venezuela. Both countries that EFF has looked up to as shining examples of their policies.

[@elvismalakoane9752]

Tito Mboweni is a puppet of economic growth and interest of the people of south Africa not a thief like Shivambu who is obsessed with stolen money from municipalities and VBS. Some people are so religiously hooked in this Eff clowns I am sure if they can say eat Grass they will eat it that is why people eat snakes it is because of this following of thugs like they are trailers following an unroadworthy skororo car blinded by rooftop shouting madness

[@goodwillntimane9038]

@@Decypha77 EFF is looking up to China and coutries like Singapore

[@Decypha77]

@@goodwillntimane9038 China and Singapore's policies are capitalistic. EFF is against capitalism. Malema once took people to Venezuela to show them how well his policies work when it looked like they are working. He also spoke about Zim and how we need to follow that route even if we suffer for it. EFF may know how to point out real issues but their solutions ruin countries.

[@rickmorty8451]

@@goodwillntimane9038 Which is not a fair comparison. Those countries went through a lot of pain and turmoil to get to where they are today. Their people were beaten into submission by their governments. EFF looks at how China is now, but fail to acknowledge how they got there. They are also not as diverse, both culturally and ideologically, as South Africa is. They also existed during a very different time. So SA requires a bit more creativity than that.

[@duminkomo4862]

This guy didn't say anything here🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️

[@razzmatazz1849]

You're too low to understand

[@misstee7403]

It's beyond your comprehension, leave it up to us grown folks

[@elvismalakoane9752]

Maybe your intellect is not equal to your comprehension listening is skill

[@fizzille3035]

There’s nothing he said, he just couldn’t agree that indeed the three individuals created this document

[@gaositwemabuela6806]

I agree, Tito didn't answer the question. Whether eff is in government or not, whether they are mismanaging Jozi or not, the question still remains unanswered, is Investec, George Soros foundation camoflouging their influence in Eskom's through the so called expert advise? Floyd explained the link between documents in Investec and the foundation and eskom. We need to stop letting ANC defer answering relevant questions, they do this repeatedly we citizens are letting them... We need to hold them accountable like we did the apartheid government. Eff cannot do it alone. I am not an eff member by the way, but I love superior logic.

[@phindimakhubele8252]

this person let him be the upcoming president nd we must allow him to scrutinize cadres of same intellectual to lead SA.

[@jameconradi8269]

Floyd got schooled

[@tokollosimeone5210]

It's actually the opposite.

[@thobelaniqwabe-channel6627]

It actually the other way round

[@wirimayimukarakate9619]

Is it me, or does the dude, Mboweni, sound 99.99% like Mbeki?

[@naheemessop3570]

Whether it's the VBS ...😂😂😂

[@khulanathinkosinathi3378]

Floyed is my Role Model.

[@elvismalakoane9752]

Who has Role models in 2019 ,world is so corrupt people are not what they seem (VBS)

[@khulanathinkosinathi3378]

@@elvismalakoane9752 Tsek wena do you have prove of what you are saying.

[@drered5670]

ANC is not in charged period.

[@lehlogonolomasuku]

😂😂Tito can bite

[@chakalarsa932]

you have got to be an idiot of note to give an ovation to such stupidity.

[@brianclement2329]

@@chakalarsa932 I would argue that you are the idiot for not understanding the discourse

[@TheButhelezis]

Tito did you just tell the opposition that their ideologies are trash, tjo ANC ministers

[@vusumuzimchunu292]

Eff members are all genius shame bantu Tito yazama yena bandla

[@puletsotetsi3558]

Release the forensic report. Someone has to go to Jail

[@samsonmocheba6560]

I don't think Tito understood Floyd question 😂😂 he is disappointing to say the least 🙄 Tito and deputy president Mabuza kedi Domkop's 😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂 moer

[@mopheme4211]

Why you think he didn't understand the question? Motivate why you say that..

[@malde5692]

Oh really age has taken it course TT Mboweni

[@tsokho_tube]

Those old bananas in ANC must leave politic to youngsters to take over and stop being afraid of leadership of women!

[@anzacavin7403]

shades shades after shades

[@gaositwemabuela5968]

Throwing shade, yet not answering the question. Typical of ministers. We need to elevate the level of engagement in parliament. It would be great for people chairing debates to reiterate the importance of Q & A. Excelllent Q from Floyd.

[@thandobala]

So Mboweni did not have an answer, so his best defense against Floyd is VBS

[@Decypha77]

He answered his question. How are people missing this?

[@lukhanyombakaza4994]

Ringo Madlingozi is busy sleeping at work😦

[@musaamos1678]

he must fire we don't want people who will be sleeping in work like those bunch of corrupt ANC mp in parliament

[@skhumbuzosokololo7011]

But I didn't hear Tito answer the question, he went on to address a different issue.

[@clevermagovoh7131]

Minister Mboweni has the responsibility to the pple of SA to answer the question as asked not to threaten Floyd who put forward a very intelligent question

[@davidletuka8006]

By the way, this guy Mboweni was educated in the Kingdom here in Lesotho, I can see he certainly knows how to play to the gallery but does he have a substantial argument against Shivambu's challenge ???

[@Decypha77]

3/50×100=6. So because 6% of the professors who were consulted were Harvard professors must mean that the other 94% just sat and let them write the paper right? 94% of the invited professors just sat and drank tea and didn't add anything to the paper that came out for sure.

[@mcolisingcamphalala8848]

This was unnecessary. He left the question unanswered.

[@gtfoh5423]

to be honest guys Tito lost me at "not titled...entitled" am i the only one who has no idea what this conversation is about

[@msimelelocamerongqaleni2075]

cha cha

[@thabisilemakhoba4758]

Lool UNdlozi uhlale ezihlekela nje

[@franklinbrown5625]

The minister is clueless

[@moeketsanesethojane3150]

These people are making education fashionable... i wish they can have engagements like this in public often... Other politicians are embarrassing, e.g Mabuza, Gwede... I think Shivambu is already afraid of Tito intellectually..

[@khanyanobumba1341]

Intellectual response

[@zachariahseed1048]

Does shivambu have eyebrows? cant see them

[@lilizelamlilizeli3012]

Floyd trying to be smart but cut down to size.

[@phindimakhubele8252]

remember the two debaters are TSONGAS nd are very conscience. they can exchange intellectuals until sun sat

[@sisikelelwemadikani7596]

😂😂😂😂 Go Mshangani

[@phindimakhubele8252]

yes I am a proudly Shangaan, what more crucial can u say in this world of God.

[@phindimakhubele8252]

who do u think you a, breathing same co2 air as other people

[@sisikelelwemadikani7596]

@@phindimakhubele8252 Go mshangani I like ur confidence

[@bulamakhandenirozwi4129]

vatsonga vo votiva timhaka ta vona but i think Floyd know what he's talking about and understand it because ANC sold us all with their stupid ideas

[@mkdempisi]

tito is trying to act smart on floyd

[@kamogelokhumalo4792]

Tito can seriously throw in punches yeses

[@justicejustice7855]

Tito landless sounds smart

[@vincemillio1027]

Mboweni mentions "3 professors out of many", but when a question is imposed about the "3 professors out of many" he respond by labelling intellectual inferiority? where is wisdom there?

[@sakhilelinda4272]

What a useless response from Mboweni,instead of answering the question he just attacks the same threat of VBS must be directed to ANC...EFF is not implicated in the report I don't know how many times must they be reminded.... Tito u are an embarrassment.

[@elvismalakoane9752]

Report of VBS has been ventilated by liquidators many times in litigations and Shivambu and Malema have been implicated more than once in various looting transaction don't be shameless or hear and see what u want to see that is called narcissism (bad manners )

[@viwendzamela9871]

Tito is very smart

[@omnomnom8092]

Umm... no!

[@mgebesibula7282]

Tito mboweni lost the debate here he start threatening Floyd with VBS nonsense l respect Shivambu he knows the economy more than Tito mboweni

[@Decypha77]

Shivambu knows the economy more than 50 professors?

[@elvismalakoane9752]

Shivambu is a conman he is not clever he is a sweettalker he reads one page of a book and make a bible out of it -

[@musaamos1678]

Elvis Malakoana my brother it seems like you are obsessed with EFF you are trying by all means to discredit everything that is related to the leadership and for your information 99% of the VBS money was looted and stolen by ANC run municipalities in limpopo go and check the release forensic report of how the VBS bank was destroyed and up to so far no one in the ANC in limpopo has been arrested and made to account for the stealing from the poor and elderly but because South African media cuptured, bias and anti black when report stories they are trying to make as if the R1 billion of VBS bank money was stolen by EFF which is not true...

[@Decypha77]

@@musaamos1678 the reason is that ANC corruption isn't a surprise. EFF acts like they are holier than though and for the people but then they are actual for STEALING FROM the people.

[@musaamos1678]

@@Decypha77 They stole what even in the same report they is no evidence that link any member of the EFF to the money that was looted but they is that point to municipalities in limpopo and mayors that were involved in the thieving of the VBS bank money and we all know that the ANC runs all the municipalities in Limpopo

[@Mane7090]

But the evidence is talking about, what about the 99% of evidence there have now?so minister mean that anc members there’s not in trouble only the eff members, what a justice in SA under ANC

[@rizladareason1361]

Bells to Tito for standing his ground....he is not bullied...

[@clayzuka3407]

Listen carefully to what Floyd is saying ....Tito Mboweni doen't have a point here.

[@ndumisomnyani6398]

When intellects spar

[@thapelonthutang5080]

There was nothing intellectual in Tito's response

[@ndumisomnyani6398]

@@thapelonthutang5080 who are you to tell?

[@thapelonthutang5080]

@@ndumisomnyani6398 Maybe i should have said "In My Opinion" however a high school debater would have had a better response and played the ball not the man. Oh to answer your question i am me!

[@ndumisomnyani6398]

@@thapelonthutang5080 you are u? Ok im glad you are yourself. I hope youre not breeding. I fear the future my kids growing up in a world with mine you is more detremental than the threat of an atomic bomb war

[@thapelonthutang5080]

@@ndumisomnyani6398 LOL i see you and Tito's reasoning are birds of a feather... Insulting my intelligence does not equate to making a solid point. Play ball not man sir! Just to exacerbate your fears i'll be breeding soon :-)

[@mbedzivhusafheli5826]

Why do people overhype this Shivambu guy? Hes useless to me

[@calebnyathi_]

Agreed

[@elvismalakoane9752]

True

[@monelisigijana6810]

Ageism

[@judymsomi2480]

WHO CARES ABOUT WHO CONTRIBUTED WHAT?

[@luthandokamvadada2431]

Tito is too old for shivambu

[@thobelaniqwabe-channel6627]

Tito Cheap politics

[@myopinion6763]

Is Floyd still in parliament? I hear "contribute ". What was Floyd's "contributions " to VBS? Is he honorable Floyd or dishonorable?

[@nqobiledewa1398]

Salute Mr Tito, just cut a small boy to size right there. Floyd still needs to grow in the game

[@pefulaurentine9985]

So u watched n saw u r stupid , hahaha. Did Mr Tito answer the question asked ? That's how you babble and fail in exams n u say d teacher did injustice or were rasists .pls listen again to d question

[@zisilemoyi2246]

Intellectual masterbation at play here

[@ndumisomnyani6398]

Lamaxhego akathathe umhlalaphantsi

[@sakhelentlabezi3170]

Say that again

[@ndumisomnyani6398]

Yho bonke ababantu babekho kusekho uZIzI nobawo uMadiba

[@amosnkonyeni4923]

Tito is the boss. Politics are not about intellect but numbers.

[@mninawamavuso3816]

Tito is a coward

[@Ernestseitisho]

Tito Mboweni... Tiring old man who is not answering questions...

[@kinghlimbizilegwala3984]

Tt mboweni 🙄

[@princemahlangu7528]

There's nothing intellectual about nothing here,,, We did this at Medical school with my friends. We studied the subject matter of the day, prepared questions for the Professor /lecture.. you just do your research !!

[@shafiyaalgiquadra1105]

Mr Mahlangu, a narrow mind is easily boggled.

[@georgechabeli9719]

Tito is an old fool!!!!!

[@elvismalakoane9752]

It takes one to know one

[@brianclement2329]

Well done Tito. Floyd and his stupid agenda again.

[@chumanihosolo6208]

Who else thinks that Titto should retire ??

[@JohnShiweda]

See