I Compared 5 Different Big Muff Pedals for David Gilmour Tones

[@mustyguitar]

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[@tyvoremusic]

I own the Dark Side from Keeley, and I love it.

[@jakeswanson2638]

Me too. It rocks

[@HaykMartirosyan]

the blindfold test - B and E ... then the fun part comes... when you opened up, I found that those are the ones I have for few years already :) Green Russian and Dark Side. I was thinking to buy Ram's head and FastFx, now I am not sure I really want it... will lister to this video couple of more times I guess. Mustafa, good job! Thanks \m/

[@mustyguitar]

Thank you!!

[@Riccardoferriscuccimarra]

A and E are my favourites two! The others are thinner and more similar

[@gertjeeeh]

Fyi, ram's head is on his LaS tour rig. Saw it on top of the rack in Rome and in Brighton!

[@PhotoTrekr]

I liked A and E. I've always been impressed by the Dark Side. It punches above it's weight.

[@mustyguitar]

Yeah they seem to do that

[@ej22_gc86]

1. They’re ALL amazing 2. I seemed to like the B more when the switch happened for the first time but I genuinely lost track of which was which after a little bit, I even couldn’t tell if I liked it better because it was less or more trebly, or scooped or whatever. I just got lost there, but perhaps listening at home in headphones would’ve helped. 3. Well now confirmation bias has everything it has to say, so indeed I like the Green Russian a lot, and the second one I was really impressed with was Keeley’s Dark Side. Want it

[@Zapruder313]

I liked A and E best! They were all incredibly similar but those two seemed to have just a touch more "presence". Also: "First Comment!" 🙂

[@mustyguitar]

A and E sound very different from each other to my ears 🤣

[@low3603]

During the blindfold test I picked A and C. A sounded very raw and edgy but it was pretty close just listening through the computer speakers. All that said I've bought the Revolution and TDY from Past FX and they are awesome pedals so I'll probably purchase the Patriarch. Bloody great video Musty!!

[@mustyguitar]

thanks!!

[@andrewpappas9311]

I actually got my Big Muff because of David Gilmour and my first one was the Big Muff Pi, which does that sound really well but last year I bought a Ram's Head because I wanted a smaller one for my pedalboard and that one is definitely one of my favourites. It just nails David's sound perfectly but I'm still really impressed with all of these, absolutely monstrous sounds all around

[@mustyguitar]

yeah its really hard to beat ram's head. hard to manage, but when you do, oh boy!

[@andrewpappas9311]

@@mustyguitar Agreed, the first things I played on mine were the solo from Time and the riff from In The Flesh? and I was blown away by how close it sounded and those are still my go-to riffs

[@adamcampbell3749]

Great video. I own 3 of the 5 and I know why. I have the green russian, rams head and patriarch. I didnt care for the P19 or Darkside except on the Time solo. I also use a revolution and triangle to get fuzzy tones or P1 tones. Fyi on the patriarch, the lows knob is a cut when turned up, I usually leave mine set at zero and just adjust the other 2 for pulse tones. Another great vid!

[@mustyguitar]

Yeah pulse is very dark sound, it’s a good idea to leave it at zero

[@galobranto921]

Green russian is the best! Better than ram’s head (love the midrange of this pedal)

[@nelsonfleig5024]

Nice demo! I'm surprised I prefered the Green Russia. Seemed like the smoothest of them all. The P19 was a bit too brittle for me. Really like the Keely as well.

[@mustyguitar]

green russian has the less gain among them too.

[@Twylightt]

To me 1 is P19! The 2 , and the one i have, Green! ✌️

[@endesp]

I have the P19 but sounds thinner and harsher than the Green. That is my fav

[@FloydColor]

For me, Rams Head and the Green reissue have the most convincing sound.. the Skreddy is very smooth, very good too

[@ninjamonk]

I saw him twice recently, Brighton and RAH and his tone live is insane. To my ears A sounded closer on the first track. His use of a Digitech Whammy has me wanting one.

[@markquinton8123]

Great video, personally I'm not a fan of Texas specials, I know you find some that love them and others that hate them. Would also love to see how these sing with the SSL-5 which I personally use. Rams head sounds spot on when you get it right and want to pierce but the Sovetek is so adaptable and rounded

[@mustyguitar]

I'm going to switch to SSL-5 in the following days. I'll compare texas specials to ssl-5 in a video Mark!

[@markquinton8123]

@@mustyguitarlooking forward to that! sometimes the SSL-5 can be a bit hot and I still love my EMG's probably more than all. I typed that comment when I was half way through your video but then the Texas Specials sounded great in the second part to be honest, I had them in my candy apple red before I put the EMG's in and I'm maybe a bit harsh on them just because I loved the EMG replacements so much

[@literallymyusername8291]

Pigs sounded killer. I always described the tone as "venomous." Whatever you did there was spot on. Still curious to hear some of attempts at achieving his live 1977 tone for the song's solos.

[@mustyguitar]

yeah I gotta work on the backing track for it. It's not going well because Rick's keyboard is always interfering with guitar frequencies

[@MrPonchiaz]

In fact somehow I like E the most, it seems to be a little "Fatter" than the others. Great video!

[@jeffrobodeenyehcmon5925]

The Dark side Keeley always hits me better. I'm bias. It's the only pedal out of the bunch I have. But it did sound 👌 best.

[@mustyguitar]

for some, it certainly did.

[@user-dl8lr8lj6q]

For a moment there I thought that's a swollen pickle and got excited. You should really check that pedal out. 7 knobs. Very costumizable.

[@mustyguitar]

I would check it out if I can find one

[@user-dl8lr8lj6q]

@@mustyguitar can't wait for that. Also if u do find one make sure it's the mk2 not 3. The mk3 is much more limited. Mk2 also has two inner pots that can sort of switch where the scoop is and u can get fuzz face tones out of it too. Great pedal. Won anderton's blindfolded challenge with rabea too.

[@kkrsnn5632]

I have the orange op-amp because of Billy 😁 Hmm as for the test, thanks for the video. A or B.

[@gbbruno596]

I preferred A. Unsurprisingly, it is the Ram's Head. For low-volume setups, I think the Grean Russian sounds better though.t

[@Hardwaysam]

A and E I do a quick first decision before my mind changes. Think I need a Dark Side for my collection. Been eyeballing some used ones out there😂

[@endesp]

Identified A and B and they were also my favorites. C was too icepicky for me, unfortunately that is what I have purchased based on your video earlier:) I am sure it can be dialed in "properly"(to my liking). Great channel, keep them coming:)

[@mustyguitar]

unfortunately? P19 is monster!!

[@endesp]

It must be, but I seem to prefer the overall sound of the green one. P19 feels a bit thin compared. I can easily be wrong if course😂

[@ACDC267]

I have one from the UK called the Pig Hoof. And I love it.

[@mustyguitar]

I think I saw that on Mr. Bjorn Riis' channel. Sounds like a beast!

[@oggythebug]

First to answer i recognize the fact that you didn t change the order, so A and E have more grunt, they are raspier, ditier and B C D are cleaner should i say, difficult to say it in english because i am french. i ve been following your chanel for around 1 year, acyually i play in a beatles tribute band and in another band where we re trying to play all the great classics. i am strruggling to fint good gilmour tone, i actually playing witn an ampero stage 2 digital modeler which is pretty good but for gilmour sounds i think i wil buy a few pedals and i will build a kind of hybrid pedald bord. your the best chanel about gilmour thanks

[@mustyguitar]

Thank you!

[@MrCptDomingues]

Before the reveal, I was gravitating more towards D and E. They sounded to me a bit more rounded/full and clearer. I didn't know any of them (Patriarch and Dark Side) and both sounded amazing. Have you ever tried the JHS Muffuleta with 5 or 6 different sounds? Any thought on that?

[@mustyguitar]

I had muffuletta, it sounds amazing! I gifted it to my friend though yeaaars back. honestly, it's expensive and you don't use much of the different mods on it, at least I didn't.

[@MrCptDomingues]

@@mustyguitar I didn't know they were expensive. They seem pretty interesting for the possibilities in one single pedal. But now that you've said, we'd not switch muffs that often

[@cicerofrechiani5467]

A great video, Musty!! Safe to say that I´m with the right one for my taste, the Ram´s Head. Just as nasty as it can be!!

[@mustyguitar]

🔥 ow yeah

[@timbennett6644]

I really like skreddy pedals. I think though that the BC109 is their best for Echoes period and the P19 great for the Wall Period.

[@mustyguitar]

Skreddy lunar is an ABSOLUTE must for my pedalboard. Can’t live without it

[@Perfectly-unperfectly]

Hey musty. Great content as always. Do you think bias fx 2 is as good as hardware pedals?

[@mustyguitar]

I'm probably biased about this, but I don't think any digital product can get the same, natural sound of analog setup. Maybe I'm not the guy to answer that question.

[@minglam5556]

will you prefer put the drybell engine after the muff and turn on the dirt side to let the muff sound more thick, just like gilmour usually put the tube drive after the muff?

[@mustyguitar]

gilmour doesn't usually does combine his dirt pedals actually. He did it in the 90s briefly and 2000's. maybe in the 77 in the flesh tour too but that's it! to answer your question, I use my drybell engine right after compressors and before big muffs, I only use the boost side of it with big muffs IF AND WHEN I want it. that's going to be for PULSE tones, again, rarely... I use bd-2 or hi-power left side AFTER my big muffs, again, very rarely, for gdansk tones. generally, I like to use my dirt pedals alone or with compressor

[@HackTheSystem-kw1nb]

dude, are you playing the time solo improv? it looks like and you mixed a few of the takes. I don't think I've EVER heard anyone improv that close to Gilmour himself! and you did that 5 times? screw the pedals, YOU are a beast bro!

[@mustyguitar]

thank you! I really appreciate that! I just plug and play however it feels. I did the tabs for Time 2024 rehearsal at my Patreon and it stuck to me, maybe I wanted to sound like that :))

[@hafstrat]

I have the green one. After hearing it demoed by you and Bjorn of Gilmourish. It’s a keeper. I had an original Russian green one which was also good. Tried a mojohand colossus and when I was earning big bucks back in 2005 I got a P2 SS2 duplex direct from Pete Cornish. That was too boomy for the man cave. Wonder if the guy who has it now kept my dymo name label on it. Expensive isn’t always best 😂👍🏼🙈

[@mustyguitar]

Couldn’t agree more

[@hafstrat]

@@mustyguitar Also in 2005 I had a Hiwatt custom 20 head and Hiwatt 2x12 cab. Cost me around £1,600. Much happier with my Blackstar ht5r mk2 and Marshall dsl5r for a pseudo stereo low watt rig. Best I’ve had in 50 years. Man I have fun here at home. Thanks for your outstanding videos btw. Even my wife will watch when I am watching on the tv. That’s saying something. 👍🏼

[@mustyguitar]

@@hafstrat thank you! greetings from Istanbul to your family!

[@OysteinSvendsen]

For me nr1 is the Rams head reissue, it sounds more open and transparent than the others.

[@mustyguitar]

yeah I guess ram's head is everyone's favorite. not to sound like an asswipe but I hope people remember that it will sound different from amp to amp :)

[@DavideBaroni]

B and even more E are my favourites.

[@KYCDK]

I like rams head with eq better than green russian, that's why the skreddy is probably the best because it has those mid boost mods but something about it doesn't sound right, it sounds a little thin to me, I feel like I can get closer to studio tones with my nano rams head and an eq pedal, my rig is different though, I use a marshall studio vintage with 2x12 cab so maybe it's the speaker cabinet doing it?

[@AndrewAHayes]

I like A and C!

[@BorysOliinyk]

Amazing tones! I really liked A and D. By the way, what were the amp settings on your Laney? Thanks, Musty!

[@mustyguitar]

Thank you! Honestly, nothing special, low gain to make the tubes working, eq mostly noon or close to noon

[@chrisradzion2148]

Question- if you’ve seen him on this tour: is he using a Big Muff, or that high gain Tube Driver for his distortion/fuzz tones. I can’t tell from the bootleg concert videos, and to my ear I heard Tube Driver on “Time” from the rehearsal video (where he usually would use a Big Muff).

[@mustyguitar]

I think it's definitely big muff, he used big muff on sorrow, scattered final part, comfortably numb, time, possibly high hopes but I don't know much about how lap steels react. I need to get one and get one fast!

[@explorer8454]

Those Texas Specials sound fantastic!

[@mustyguitar]

I'll switch bridge to ssl5 in the following weeks, comparing both of them.

[@explorer8454]

@@mustyguitar I tried the SSL-5 with my Texas Specials. To me, the SSL-5 was too much. Position 2 wasn't great sounding to my ears so I put the Texas Special back in.

[@mustyguitar]

@@explorer8454 is that so? what do you mean "too much"?

[@explorer8454]

@@mustyguitar It really affected the sound of the bridge and middle pickup together. It really affected the "quack" sound.

[@Mihail_K.]

You might call me crazy, but for the most part, there isn't a lot of difference. For me the key is to put pedals into context, so to speak. A while back I built myself a ram's head and a green russian, and even though the RH has more gain, I wouldn't say it's really usable in that range. In fact I can't remember the last time I've used it (still a great pedal tho). With boost, compression and EQ in addition to a few general types of gain pedals (a muff, a rat, a DS-1 and a fuzz face) you can gen tons of different tones, even much beyond Gilmour's tones.

[@mustyguitar]

you're not crazy. there aren't that much difference.

[@Sminghi]

A top! (And not because I've got it :) Also E sounds great but darker in my opinion.

[@mustyguitar]

I have the filter knob a bit lower maybe, I liked it while I was recording. maybe I should've increased it

[@МаксимСоколов-ч5я]

I owed all these pedals except patriarch. Sold finally rams head and dark side. Too light and fizzy sound for me. Green russian is amazing. I push it often with overdrive. Pig is also very interesting sound. But essentially for Wall tones.

[@mustyguitar]

Why interesting?

[@МаксимСоколов-ч5я]

@@mustyguitar i remember the first impression. It was really wow effect, i played few notes and it turned me into the Wall) By the way it sounds very dark and smooth. Much darker than other traditional fuzzes. Its suprising me that you get rather light tones from it

[@waynegram8907]

MUSTY, interview with David Gilmour on Rick Beato said that he ALWAYS uses an Ibanez CP9 compressor, boss CE-3 compressor, MXR Dyna Comp BEFORE his Boss Blues Driver BD-2. You should make a video lesson showing the different compressor pedal settings BEFORE the boss blues driver BD-2 because this is the main gilmour tricks. I'm curious to know the compressor pedal settings to know how to get closer to those gilmore tones.

[@mustyguitar]

where did he say that? I only heard that he uses compression with tube drivers. and, he said he doesn't use compression with big muff. ffs I've been saying this for years :)

[@waynegram8907]

@@mustyguitar He also uses compressor pedals with the Boss Blues BD-2 pedal. Right he said he uses the Big Muff as a compressor/overdrive, its a different way of using a big muff. Rick Beato asked him about the Boss Blues Driver pedal which he says he using various compressors pedals BEFORE the Boss Blues Driver pedal for different settings

[@waynegram8907]

@@mustyguitar He says for the songs Black Cat, 5 A.M he is using a Compressor pedal BEFORE the Butlers Tube Driver pedal

[@mustyguitar]

@@waynegram8907 he said "tube driver" and there was no discussion about cp-9 or cs-3 or mxr. as far as I know, he has a cali76, an effectrode pc-2a and demeter compulator.

[@waynegram8907]

@@mustyguitar His older pedalboards used the CP-9, CS-3 and Dyna Comp which seems for the BK Tube Driver. You should do a video lesson about this. The Big Muff he uses various Boss EQ pedals set at different frequency curves which was used for the wall 1980 tour. I'm assuming he is using the CP-9, CS-3 and Dyna Comp compressors BEFORE the Boss Blues Driver pedal. This is what he was hinting at that he likes that compressed tone driving these tube drivers pedals. If you listen to the guitar solo TIME , it has a compressor pedal BEFORE the fuzz face. I'm not sure which studio compressor they used but I have notice Gilmour uses compressors very subtle very light to get that SAG ATTACK on the picking notes of the guitar solo TIME.

[@craighornsby78]

Blind I would have said Rams and dark side , but in the mix I think green edged it. Let’s be honest though they are all pretty much there.

[@ACDC267]

Question! Hopefully you see this. Can you do a tone guide for 1977 in the flesh tour. Specifically Dogs for the Oakland show in 1977. In my opinion thats one of Gilmours best live tones ever achieved. The full concert is on KZbin posted by "Gui" thank you for considering!!

[@mustyguitar]

I’m aware of the tour. My favorite shows are from 1977. I will do a tone guide but I need a bit more time

[@ACDC267]

@mustyguitar sounds wonderful! Looking very much forward to it!

[@rowanschenck4756]

Keeley Moon! Thickness!

[@abc123iep]

In the blind test, A, C, E are interchangeable to me (listened on my laptop without headphones). So, whichever is the cheapest is the best, lol. I didn't like B, D as much.

[@arnoldlayne5517]

I'm new to learning guitar. Do you think your patreon channel would be of any use to me? I'm a die-hard Gilmour fan too. Your videos really motivate me.

[@mustyguitar]

are you kidding me? there is no page like my page and I'm proud to advertise it. if you like my tutorial videos here on youtube, you're going to love the endless content at my patreon page, along with tabs, bcking tracks and lovely community

[@markquinton8123]

Highly recommend for any Gilmour fanatic!

[@reubenrozeyt5716]

Hey Musty will any Big Muff (Pi, Nano, Little Big, OP Amp) get the same sound?

[@mustyguitar]

Honestly, the silver and the mini version is not a good match, nano I think, that’s no good. Rest I’m not sure

[@reubenrozeyt5716]

​@@mustyguitar THANK YOU 🙏

[@IDM112]

The Green Russian was the only one I could tell as it's slightly bassier. The rest were indistinguishable.

[@mustyguitar]

really? I thought C and E were very obvious

[@IDM112]

@@mustyguitar Listening further into the video they do stand out a bit more, first half I thought they were pretty much the same sound.

[@johanneschristopherstahle3395]

When you first switched from A to B I thought the sound lost it's bite, but later I found out that A was just too bright for me. D and B are the ones I liked best, because of their smooth sound. E was my least favorite one, too much focus on the low mids.

[@mustyguitar]

I thought E sounded closer to the Time studio tone, that's strange

[@jakepark7837]

For me in order I chose A, D, E, B, C

[@mustyguitar]

no love for P19?

[@sportsportsport]

Loved the video. What would your views be on EXH Russian Green big muff Vs Stomp under foot Civil war?

[@mustyguitar]

can't really say, I haven't tried it but it looks very expensive for a big muff. I'm sure it delivers more than it costs, but still, yaiks!

[@sportsportsport]

@@mustyguitar EXH green is £85 brand new and I see a SUF Civil War on eBay for £150, it is hand made in USA however. Sound wise I’d love to see you test them at some point if the opportunity arouse. I have a Skreddy Pig Mine, but would like to try the two I mention.

[@mustyguitar]

@@sportsportsport well if they want to send me one, I'd love to try for sure and Skreddy Pig Mine is great as far as I know.

[@sportsportsport]

@@mustyguitar The Pig Mine was superseded by the PI9 , if you were local to me I would lend it to you for a demo :)

[@cactus-mcjacktus]

All sounded good, virtually no difference between B and D to me, but A/E were the best. C had a funky midrange, A was nice and smooth and E was a bit more gritty in a cool way

[@mustyguitar]

that funky midrange sounds very much like Hiwatt EQ to me actually, I'm not saying I like it better than the others, they all serve different purpose for me.

[@gc583]

rams head is best

[@alexc3744]

I admit - I heard very little difference between the pedals. For me, it’s about the feel and the playing. And pedals are just a expression of that.

[@vrayonet]

Musty, please review Big Muff Deluxe.

[@mustyguitar]

that is a tough one, I'm not gonna pay for that pedal xD

[@EMutsgib4541]

I use a SSL5 and a Ram's Head and I'm really really far from the sounds you get, great job!

[@mustyguitar]

I got ssl5 and will switch to it in the following weeks. I'll compare it to texas specials.

[@endesp]

@@mustyguitar Consider the SSL5 T. That is what I have put into my guitar, with a potentiometer in the lower Tone. At one is only around 6K(tapped) and at 10 it is running as a normal SSL5. At 5 it is also a usable mixture.

[@gertjeeeh]

Just get a Cornish P-1 and be done with it. Hands down the best muff there is.

[@VintageGuitarClubSP]

A - Rounded. I like it. B - Rounded and fat. I like it too. C - Rounded too, a little less grainy. I aproved D - A little more shrill, not for me. E - Opaque, less drive first, sounds hard, not for me.

[@mustyguitar]

Yeah I was looking for a definition for E. You got me!

[@jeanfrancoisdubois9073]

For me green russian is better

[@jameswhile544]

They all lacked the bass that an original Ram's Head has. Although A and E were my faves.

[@mustyguitar]

Do they lack or my settings and my extreme low volume is the reason for that?

[@jameswhile544]

@@mustyguitar no modern RI has the bottom end thump of an original Rams v2 or Cornish P1. Volume always helps though. Great demo 👌

[@mustyguitar]

@@jameswhile544 I see. I didn't know that, thanks!

[@leopaquer]

first time in a while i hear a big muff sounding bad

[@mustyguitar]

I can help you man. no worries. just stop with the "don't have space in my phone so f*ck you all" types of embarrassing stuff under your video descriptions. Nobody cares about you right now anyway. Nobody even knows you exist. Just be a good boy and ask for help, we are a great community and we'd love for you to join us.

[@FlyGuy457]

I can't tell. Unless you play the same riff for each pedal back to back, there are too many variables.