MVP v. Discmania // The numbers ARE NOT what they seem // Hex v. MD1 v. Buzz

[@skeller61]

Nice review, thanks! You did a good job about talking what each disc does compared with expectations, as well as comparing them for a lot of shots that most reviews simply don’t cover.

[@deserttrekmedia]

Thank you for mentioning all that! It helps me know to keep doing those things!

[@viux44]

Good rerview! Im also waiting for my Simon Hex to arrive. I actually hope that it flies a bit more stable than the numbers suggest because I already bag a origin and a beat in mako3, so the understable mid is well covered :D

[@deserttrekmedia]

For sure. If this one is any indicator it shouldn't be nearly as understable as those. Especially not the origin!

[@calebschmucker3034]

Definitely agree with your final thoughts; the Hex is definitely closer to the MD3 than the MD1. Great review and comparison!

[@deserttrekmedia]

Thank you :)

[@allenhammitt5092]

I wonder if it's that particular run? My first Hex was really straight flying with very little fade. I just got the Simon Hex in the mail.... we'll see how it goes. Love the comparison videos!

[@deserttrekmedia]

maybe it is. Other people have also pointed out that their hex is not as stable! And thanks!! I appreciate it!!

[@EllisDiscGolf]

I love my MD1. It is my go to mid when I want to go straight. I like that it can also hold hyzer if not thrown too hard.

[@deserttrekmedia]

For real, I'm really really liking it, especially the metal flake run. It's the perfect amount of straight compared to the c line md1

[@neverlayup]

I am excited to get my glow hex... And a bunch of other mvp molds that I have been wanting to try. I have yet to throw the zenith, wrath, reactor, and resistor. How beat in is your MD1? That is nice that the hex is more stable then the numbers would suggest.

[@deserttrekmedia]

It’s not too beat in. Maybe thrown it two dozen times. So I would say still pretty new. I’m about to do with with the wrath but I’m finding the plastic feels really nice!

[@mathiaskristensen2208]

The Mindbender is a lot less stable than regular c-line MD1 though.

[@deserttrekmedia]

Yeah I realized that just recently. So id imagine a c line md1 would be more comparable to the hex right?

[@mathiaskristensen2208]

@@deserttrekmedia My c-line feel very similar in flight to my Eclipse Hex (Space Race Edition). Both just a tad less stable than my MD3.

[@prattacaster]

MindBender is the definition of a " stable" disc. We just use the word "stable " wrong in disc golf

[@jaythejuiceman3000]

Try the Eric Oakley Pathfinder. It booted my mind bender, buzzz ss, and Z buzzz from my bag. The hex is a little more stable so has a purpose still.

[@deserttrekmedia]

Mmmmm. Does it fly different than regular pathfinders?

[@jaythejuiceman3000]

@@deserttrekmedia Doesn't seem as flippy from what I hear. I was told it is a little more stable. As someone with a lot of torque I like the Eric Oakley Pathfinder more that any other straight flying mid I have thrown. Whats the worst that can happen? You end up with a sick disc in the collection?

[@NickCarroll]

In my experience with a Neutron Hex it's more stable than my Star Mako3, and I would also give it something like a 5 4 0 1 or possibly 5 4 0 1.5 since MVP likes those half numbers.

[@deserttrekmedia]

Mmm yeah compared a majo I’ve thrown I would say the same thing. I’m glad you confirmed that!

[@zacdarider]

Man I would LOVE if you would make a review serie on different discs of the same company ex: destroyer, wraith, shryke, tern, boss, mystere. and compare flights with a tracer. You have good control and power. Im studying discs but I cant break 350 cause there is so much snow here. It could be any company. I love what you do Thank you

[@deserttrekmedia]

Heck yes. Thank you for the idea. Would the tracer be helpful because it’s hard to see the flight of the discs?

[@zacdarider]

@@deserttrekmedia no, but maybe it would help to compare their flights. Its not an issue tho this aspect is pretty clear already. I also like that you put color walls to call your shots

[@zacdarider]

@@deserttrekmedia I suggest that cause I have way too many overlaps and have a hard time sorting em. Ex: tl3, teebird, teebird3, dark rebel..

[@toddkauk6099]

A Buzzz is 5/4/-1/-1 so there’s that. Eclipse Glow Hexes are more stable than the Neutron you have. The best comparison for the MD1 is the Mako3.

[@deserttrekmedia]

Yeah that makes sense. I agree! Good to know about the glow hexes!! So do you think that means Simon’s disc will be more stable than neutron plastic?

[@toddkauk6099]

@@deserttrekmedia That is a general rule for Eclispe plastic. I have not thrown this new Hex personally, so I can’t say 100%.

[@mikehan3130]

I agree that the Hex is more of MD3 or Roc3 replacement.

[@deserttrekmedia]

Yeah, but I’m starting to think that the odd -1/1 disc out is the origin. It slows way more understable than other -1/1 discs.

[@jessicagallant3443]

Cheers great video

[@deserttrekmedia]

Heck yes thanks for always watching :)

[@discingaround]

Glow Hex vs Discmania Origin Midnight Prowl Meta Origin would be a great comparison. -1/1 discs that act a bit more stable than advertised.

[@deserttrekmedia]

Oh heck yeah!! I’ll definitely grab a glow hex for that!!

[@prattacaster]

I think with proper mechanics this is how the Hex flies. Simon's Hex is a bit more overstable than the typical run but not too much. I may end up bagging the Hex over the Emac Truth because they fly very similar and the Hex quite frankly feels better in the hand. Almost as comfy as the MindBender which I also bag and use for those super straight and soft turnover shots. MindBender feels slower than a Buzzz, Hex, Truth as well

[@deserttrekmedia]

That makes sense. And yes, the mind bender just feels really really nice in the hand, but so did the hex!! I can see why Simon likes it.

[@PMantle]

Have had 3 Hexes. None showed -1.

[@deserttrekmedia]

Lol yeah for real. But I still liked it a lot!

[@kevinjoseph3183]

Prodigy? #istandwithgannon

[@marklethemagic]

The only thing I can really think is for Simon's arm speed, the Hex acts like a farther flying MD1, because the Hex is more stable, and thus can handle more power and torque. Simon's signature Hex is in Eclipse (Glow) which will make it significantly more stable. It'll probably be closer to a 5 / 5 / 0 / 2. A thing about gyro, is if you don't throw with enough spin, the disc acts more stable. IMO, you need to throw Gyro with more spin than a regular disc of the same speed. I bag a Hex and when I try to barely throw it, it's very stable, but when I rip on it it flips up and gets slight turn.

[@doggyd.floofy7445]

The eclipse plastic doesn’t impact the stability of midranges and putters as much as the drivers. 5-5-(-.5)-1 is probably what i would give the eclipse hex. Just slightly more overstable than a neutron hex if not the same. Little more torque resistant and forehand friendly.

[@deserttrekmedia]

Mmmm. That super helpful to know now. And that makes sense for someone like Simon who can just mash those things. Thanks for letting me know. That’ll help with other videos that have similar discs.

[@mathiaskristensen2208]

My Eclipse Hex (Space Race edition) is very similar in flight to my Fission Hex (both 175g)

[@marklethemagic]

@@mathiaskristensen2208 For me, my Space Race Hex flies more like a reactor than it does a Neutron Hex.

[@ScroDiddly]

I actually bag all 3

[@deserttrekmedia]

DANG! And do they all fill completely different spots for you?

[@ScroDiddly]

@@deserttrekmedia pretty much. The MD1 Is straight to flippy, so it's used a lot on Anheuser and tunnel. The Hex feels more comfortable and is pretty straight with touch fade and the Md3 is kinda overstable. Don't like the size of Md3 so I can grip it more and it doesn't get as much power so it fades more

[@ScroDiddly]

@@deserttrekmedia my hex is pretty straight, no turn, even close to 300 ft. Stock run neutron