MVSX Home Arcade "Second Wave" NeoGeo [Review]

[@WickedGamerCollector]

Your video's was perfect and showed every thing you can do with cabinet ! And I think with the naughty upgrade makes it epic.. and the joystick / button upgrade is a must have.

[@LVPB]

Hey wicked👌👍

[@RetroGameCorps]

Great video, it looks lovely. Picard was in peak form, too!

[@TeamPandory]

Thanks man. Wish he'd stop talking about my mum like that

[@Dadedrums]

I used to play super side kicks 4 in the cabinet when i was a kid... love it! I love love this bartop... definitely it will be in my all time wishes list. Awesome review!

[@timpogi]

Nice! It comes prebuilt. Really beautiful aesthetics. Thanks for this!

[@neocvera]

Cool video! You packed a lot of content in under 20min. Nicely done!

[@TeamPandory]

Thanks for your kind comment 🙂

[@EQOAnostalgia]

I really like some of the countertops i'm seeing lately. This one looks gorgeous.

[@Teedyan]

What a neat machine! Really thorough review of the cabinet itself and it was also fun to see you try out many of the games. Like you mentioned in the video the original line-up is a bit lacking but with the "system update" that was easily fixed as you demonstrated. Nice video!

[@TheRealDonnyJepp]

Came back to watch this video One More Time. I'm about 10 or 15 minutes away from hitting order on one. Found a pretty decent price and I've been thinking about them since you first posted. I'll let you know if I get it

[@Bo_Knows_Tecmo]

At the lower pricing this is a great deal. Plus it can be hacked with the Hylo Hack to add games. I do like that the back is black unlike the cardboard that arcade1up uses. The sticks are not that great but with the tweaks you made to the gate then it will be better.

[@TheFrenchy82]

Metalslug 2 has ALWAYS slowdowns !! The game is baldy programmed , that's why we had metalslug X !

[@peterlondon9453]

Great review, very informative 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@TeamPandory]

Thanks! 👍

[@grgmj1980]

This is great at regular price! People forget that this comes with 50 games. Not 12 or 3 like most arcade 1ups. And if you add the HyloX hack it’s even better.

[@LukeDodge916]

I cant believe I haven't picked on up yet. Life gets in the way sometimes I guess. But I'm in love with this thing. The Hylo Hack is a must for me in particular. I really can't wait to get my X...

[@LukeDodge916]

Oh and great video

[@TeamPandory]

Thanks :-)

[@LukeDodge916]

@@TeamPandory Got mine a few days ago. Working on Hylo hack right now. And I'm looking for this gates you installed. Looks like such an improvement

[@TeamPandory]

@@LukeDodge916 We've provided links in the description.. We got them from aliexpress, but be aware- with the way we forced these on, it breaks some bits of plastic on the stock joysticks

[@ThunderWarrior01]

If i didn’t already have one that runs Hyperspin I’d definitely be interested in buying one.

[@MrBthatdude]

This would fit perfectly your local sports bar

[@TeamPandory]

Yes! Totally!

[@joandarc441]

Good work

[@WOLF-wu2rc]

You can change the PG settings to R settings for blood to show on Metal Slug.

[@TboneTenEighties]

That's a cool option for sure

[@maxrebo6579]

I see version 2 same cheap parts they used in version 1. I swapped out both sticks and all the buttons, Makes it very enjoyable

[@castleranch738]

Best review I’ve seen yet! Does the Hylo hack allow you to customize the games that appear? Like if you wanted to stick with what originally came with the cabinet but eliminate many of the fighters? Thanks again! Saving this one for future reference 👍

[@TeamPandory]

Thanks for the kind comment ☺️ Honestly I'd have to check it again for you, been using it with the stock games, but I'm pretty sure you can load it with the games as you like.

[@motivationmore7025]

nice video! Which sub 200$ arcade bar top would you recommend if specifically playing neo geo games?

[@ryecatcher25]

I want so bad....I say this what having just upgrading a pandoras box to a pi4 and led buttons...but still so awesome.

[@7thsaga662]

Great video. Thanks for your review. As far as Neo Turf Masters not being on the collection, I assume it has something to do with licence but I have no idea. That is a bit of a miss though. Still a great buy.

[@TeamPandory]

Licensing! Maybe... Sega go out of their way with Outrun regarding the Ferrari license.. The Neo Turf Masters team probably moved on a lot since then.

[@farleysmoke5130]

Nice one. Thanks Chicken boy

[@Shirodx]

Got mine, added HyloX love it.

[@gett0b0b]

I can't find the "file" in question anywhere. It was scrubbed from everywhere it was listed a few days before mine came in. I have it in the breakroom at work and honestly the title list is kinda lacking. The main reason I got it was for the add on games. I have a 1up packman next to it and most people who end up waiting around in my office for whatever reason end up playing that. I know KZbin/Google can be a bit protective when it comes to posting links and what not, but if you could just give me a hint in the right direction I sure would appreciate it. I need something to hold me over until my fixed piezo fixed light gun Pandora kit comes in.

[@fakemaria]

Take the challengue and improve our original hylostick ;)

[@TheBigb1973]

Can you change dip switches? Such as blood in the metal slug?

[@stuntz0rZ]

I just got the 3 piece bundle (without stool) at Amazon for $600 with tax. i thought that was a sweet deal. i think i saved about $200 :)

[@TeamPandory]

... There's a stool? 😂

[@stuntz0rZ]

@@TeamPandory i guess it's for the hardcore collector. still a little pricey. no discounts on those right now.

[@AlphaPapa69]

The unibios works perfectly in the HyloX hack I installed today

[@HieiTF76]

Metal Slug 2 slowdowns doesn't come from the MVSX. The slowdowns come from the original game, that's why they released the game again (with the first one) later (with some modifications) under the name Metal Slug X.

[@TeamPandory]

"Metal Slug 2 has the same slowdown as the arcade original" - This was covered in the video.

[@HieiTF76]

@@TeamPandory Yeah, but I mean, I wouldn't have put it as a "cons" when the original game is the same, but it's just my opinion.

[@TeamPandory]

@@HieiTF76 ah. Right. I guess so. Maybe we expected a bit more from a machine at $499 RRP

[@TeamPandory]

Remember the official ports had no slowdown. ... And played far better

[@HieiTF76]

@@TeamPandory Yeah, it's because Metal Slug 2 was badly programmed, which is why they released Metal Slug X later. I understand what you say but I guess some other people would have complained that somes games would not be true to the original (to fix Metal Slug 2 slowdown, the cpu emualtion need to be overlocked but that would mean some other games would also have less slowdown).

[@timhewett4082]

Awesome video! Looks like a future purchase next sale. I am wondering what would you say is the best Multiplatform retro emulation machine to date with well calibrated game controls you have come across?

[@TeamPandory]

Machine? Check the Taito x3 video. That makes these look like a calculator.

[@bedrichhh]

i found the hylostick mod and installed it on my cab but i realized none of the games had the actual rom installed in it - just the coverart. is there a way i can find it with the actual roms in it? havent had any luck :/

[@TeamPandory]

You need to add the fba roms into the folders. Then you'll be done

[@reagandow850]

You can very easily add all the games it’s missing. I wish I knew about the sale as I’ve been thinking about buying one of these. Btw, I believe the $499 model comes with the base that makes it a full sized unit. However you still got a great price and saved $80!! It’s a beauty for sure. Edit: I see the prices have gone up. I stand corrected. This system is going for $499!! Sorry about that. I’m almost positive that when this first came out the unit I mentioned above was the 499. Can anyone confirm for me? Now it’s driving me crazy. ;)

[@TeamPandory]

Nah. At RRP $499 it's the bartop only

[@reagandow850]

@@TeamPandory - Correct! I just added to my original comment. When the system came out wasn’t it 499 for the whole “shbang” ? Either way, you got a great deal!!

[@Neo_Player]

@@reagandow850 you're right, I bought one when it first came out and it was 499 for the main unit and riser.

[@raultelles9896]

$450 for bartop and 499 for bartop and stand. That was the MSRP for a while

[@robinm.6965]

Metal slug 2 is originally slowed down ! They have to keep it as it is

[@TeamPandory]

They didn't have to. - Heck, the official SNK releases on Steam of Metal Slug 2 had no slowdown.. An option to choose "original" or "core boost" would have been very welcome.

[@michaelthickett3989]

Love mine, but can’t find the hylo x files anymore and they seem to have taken down the telegram channel

[@wanderingdaze7018]

Did you end up finding them?

[@michaelthickett3989]

@@wanderingdaze7018 no I never found them

[@wanderingdaze7018]

@@michaelthickett3989 I seen some one on eBay selling. You should give it a try

[@PackageFromChina]

I got a massive Brain Fart seeing this and almost bought it 🤪

[@Dadedrums]

Me too!

[@heymelon5834]

Nice! If they can add the insert coin function it will be perfect for my shop.

[@TeamPandory]

Maybe a countdown timer system would be ideal? Think outside the box

[@TboneTenEighties]

It's a very nice looking piece for sure. I just can't stand the fact that the control deck has no room for someone's wrist to rest on. The sticks and buttons are practically hanging off the deck. Another inch or two of depth would have done the deck justice imo. Still a great looking cab.

[@EMMETTCULLENHALE]

thats why i sold mine, tired of my hand going numb

[@rabbidbabies4094]

Could the hylostick hack potentially harm the system or cause future failure? I’m not computer savvy but I’ve always wanted a neo geo and want to get the most out of it.

[@TeamPandory]

It could, I guess- as it flashes a fake firmware update. If you're using a genuine and reliable memory stick to update, you should be fine though. - After the firmware has flashed (takes maybe 30 seconds) then you're good to either use it with the hylo (when the memory stick is plugged in), or use it as a stock system.

[@christianb9984]

Did you noticed damage on the plexiglas or dust/woodpieces between the cover of the display? I just got my 3. unit and each of them had the issue. One also had a red light bleeding in the left corner and dead pixels.

[@TeamPandory]

I noticed the damage I made to it whilst pulling out the plate / stick section. They glued that thing together. Will check for bleed and dust later tonight

[@wrayday7149]

Price to content is a big yes. But I just never really got into SNK stuff.

[@TeamPandory]

Me neither. Not until last year, then.... "Holy crap"

[@danlethal]

Have to say that looks really good... Definitely a bit pricey though

[@Dadedrums]

The price is the only con to me! It looks beautiful!

[@danlethal]

@@Dadedrums I thought it had a few others, the stick is an easy fix but the cps3 performance was a let down - I'd want more out of it for my money, in comparison to other options

[@jotakux7489]

You’d rather pay 700$ for 5-7 games with a1up?

[@danlethal]

@@jotakux7489 no, not too sure how you got that conclusion... I personally think it looks great, but If I'm going to justify that amount of money I'd rather do a DIY job and get much more performance for the same value.

[@jotakux7489]

@@danlethal think these are more for people who can’t diy. Yeah for this price,if you could diy, you’d get a way better machine.

[@elianrodriguez1511]

Could you possibly tell me how to add the KOF 2002 plus into the machine I bought it thinking it would come with it but it didn’t so I would really love to play this specific version of the game on it please help !!

[@TeamPandory]

Google the hack then add the games to a usb stick. There is a discord where you can enquire for more information

[@AlphaPapa69]

I want one. I just wish there was someone in the Uk selling them.

[@CraigGrannell]

Liberty Games is. £575.

[@Swdragon76]

Hi Team Pandory, Please Hi, why can’t i get hold of HyloStick X? Thanks you so much 🙏🏻

[@TeamPandory]

Check for the neogeo hack discord or in archive. The files are online but not very easy to find.

[@Swdragon76]

@@TeamPandoryThanks you so much 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@turnedmyworld]

This was on sale!!? Dang it! I missed it!

[@TeamPandory]

It's still on sale.. In Japan. Put it on your Amazon wish list or something

[@davidbetts2980]

Loved this video 👍 So it seems that raspberry pi graphics are not quite as good as the MVSX version.

[@TeamPandory]

They're totally different machines. It's unfair to compare them. Pi you can tinker to your hearts content, but you'd lose years in doing so. This has sticks, monitor ... An all in one unit. Apples and oranges, friend.

[@krle7970]

Metal slug 2 always ran that way, so it is faithful

[@EMMETTCULLENHALE]

i sold mine, tired of my hand going numb and the incorrect 6 button joystick

[@randallgoeswhere]

Very strange that is has a US controller style layout. I wonder if theres a jp version?

[@TeamPandory]

That's the thing. I'm in Japan. I guess if it was released over here we'd be getting a super neo 29.

[@evolutionated1125]

American NeoGeo cabs don't have "circle restrictor gates" they don't have any gates..they use actuators

[@DoggyDog420]

Is it still possible to buy that HyloX hack?!?! If so I’m buying this right now!! Awesome video!!!

[@TeamPandory]

You download it. For free.

[@DoggyDog420]

Awesome!!!! Thanks

[@robkrasinski6217]

Or you can buy a preloaded thumb drive for $70-80.

[@SatoshiMatrix1]

Legitimate question - why does it come with six action buttons per player? Outside of hacking, it only ever runs four button Neo Geo games. So why does it have a six button layout?

[@TeamPandory]

I think it's to cater for those with different layouts to the 4 in a line. We've had a viewer want a crazy layout set up as Spanish arcades had 2 top and 2 below, almost similar to tekken.

[@glenndoiron9317]

This. This is a dealbreaker for me. ALL MVS and AES units had the four button layout. A neo-geo machine with a SF control panel layout? It's like a shitty arcade conversion unit where the operator didn't bother to replace the control panel.

[@nSquared75]

Only those at Unico know for sure but, it may be to cater for those who like the box style layout that the Neo game pads had.

[@axMf3qTI]

Metal Slug 2 always slows down that why Metal Slug X exists.

[@Victor-it6bv]

Wow $370 is a good price. How long ago was this sale?

[@TeamPandory]

Still on for Amazon Japan.

[@tonitorc2556]

where can we find the hylo hack you put it?

[@TeamPandory]

You can find some files on the archive.

[@tonitorc2556]

@@TeamPandory and where a tutorial to instalo ir?

[@tonitorc2556]

A tutorial to install It?

[@TeamPandory]

@@tonitorc2556 there might be a few around on KZbin. Have a quick look. You basically put all the files to a usb stick, pop it in the back then hit update firmware from the mvsx options screen. Here's a neogeo hacking discord, they're not very talkative but there are some files you can grab. discord.gg/Whyp5BxaYy

[@NoCloutJoey]

On your cons list you mentioned Metal Slug 2 but that game has always been laggy with slow down even when it released. That’s why they re-made it with Metal Slug X.

[@TeamPandory]

Yup. We know. But we also know snk released metal slug 2 on the pc without slowdown. Playing it at full speed makes it a totally different game.

[@donjaun540]

So street fighter and others are included in that hack❓

[@TeamPandory]

No. It enables you to add them, provided you have the roms.

[@pepperoniipizza]

Is this a new version?

[@TeamPandory]

I believe it's the second version. Screw in buttons, louder speakers and possibly some other minor improvements.

[@fordharrison2649]

how to make the update to add more games?? can i add capcom Street fighter?\

[@TeamPandory]

@@fordharrison2649 yes ! Of course! But personally I prefer it vanilla MVS 😂 Check their GitHub for information. I think there's a discord too for more help if needed

[@andrewholt5659]

Wow, $450 for a bArcade? Missing some of the best games. Why do these never include Neo Turfmasters?

[@bassram3337]

license issue

[@dpc4548]

I got mine in Japan for $750 from Amazon (with riser). I have no clue how you managed to get it so cheap.

[@TeamPandory]

Checks Amazon Jp... It's currently on sale for 33004 yen.

[@dpc4548]

@@TeamPandory no base, but even so, I got stung by getting in early. Still, even at $700, I think it's well worth it. I play it every weekend now and modded it to take 100en for me and 10 en for my daughter to use.

[@TeamPandory]

@@dpc4548 Yes, they were expensive earlier on- that's why I waited. The base seems to be unavailable in Japan now- They were going for around 15000 or something - ridiculous for a wooden box. Very cool you modded it for 100yen though! Did you do any more mods to it or leave it at that? We may go back and make a few more videos for this box.

[@dpc4548]

@@TeamPandory I put the Omega mod on to get all the Neo Geo games. I did put a Rspberry Pi 4 in there, but it didn't work well with the coin slots. The Neo Geo games are all specifically designed for coins on the same button, not so for other devices. Maybe I'll try again some time. I changed the buttons to be convex instead of concave, but the sticks feel great, so I left them as is. I also put some furniture risers under it to get better height.

[@TeamPandory]

@@dpc4548 interesting you mentioned that you are okay with the sticks.. Getting the corners in was something that really bugged me (hence changing the gate) - did the omega mod allow you to have the English settings for baseball stars 2?

[@ahhcmon9604]

I wish sink games would go back to pixel art, as much as I like the next gen samurai showdown it’d be so much better with pixel art

[@TeamPandory]

For sure ! Totally agree. Actually, maybe just 2D like they did with kof13. That was gorgeous, and played awesome too.

[@BKDDY]

6 button. are they fuckin drunk

[@TeamPandory]

😆

[@ShinGoukiSan]

A real Circle Gate would be awesome, those rounded corner squares suck

[@calippo80]

Man, the price exceed 550 dollars..how do you get one for this price...

[@TeamPandory]

It probably fluctuates. As they don't sell too well over here they tend to be cheaper due to supply/demand.

[@calippo80]

@@TeamPandory Thx!

[@jp980-]

😎

[@LVPB]

Did you just get this?

[@TeamPandory]

A few months back.

[@JL-chljl]

I was amazed by this product and tempted to order one until I saw the part where you needed to tweak the joysticks. I have no knowledge nor skill to do the swap. It's too bad that for the price of this product the essential parts are not up to the standard.

[@TeamPandory]

The joysticks are based upon the US Neogeo cabinet HAPP sticks, which have the circle gate. It's a shame, as those corners are essential to King of Fighter games. That said, it's not too bad of a quick mod.

[@one7decimal2eight]

I'd pay 370 for a standalone samurai showdown 64 unit.

Hermoso

[@zuhr9871]

Jail-break the shit out of it 🤣

[@andrewschempf]

Why just 50?

[@TboneTenEighties]

I say the same. IMO it should have had more games on it.

[@chadsjohnson4876]

Wish it had the 4 button layout of a real neo geo. Might not be a big deal for some but that's a deal breaker for me.

[@TeamPandory]

Hey there. Unsure if it's a solution, but you should be able to use button spacers to create a 4 button setup if you wish.

[@nusilver]

Metal Slug 2 always had slowdown. That's why everyone plays Metal Slug X instead.

[@TeamPandory]

Yep. Using emulation we have work arounds to speed it up, and even the stream port is fixed of slowdown.

[@xxcffff8275]

Makes no sense not to include at least a ball top and a square restrictor ppl can easily switch between.... nice review. Gonna pass on it since besides the shell everything is mediocre quality.... hopefully they will work on a future upgrade to this unit. I do own a AES and I expect the same quality from these type of units

[@TeamPandory]

Guessing they tried to follow the American design rather than the Japanese one... Which isn't exactly a terrible idea considering it's based on the big red. (Getting them corners is a complete arse tho!)

[@xxcffff8275]

@@TeamPandory I m really happy I found your vid cuz I was thinking to buy one. I would have gone bonkers seeing that round gate and that solder on the stick 🤣 🤣 🤣 in 2022 if you launch a product like this for this much money you wanna give your customers flexibility and easy swapping things. If it was like 300 dollars/euros I would have accepted this nonsense but it s 570 euros in Europe... like are you for real... I m pretty sure for most is an impulse buy ... I m really trying to stop producing too much junk buying things like this. I really hope someone will make a decent arcade replica ... 1up and these guys are just feeding on ppls nostalgia... just play emulators. And if you really want to start a moding project buy some tools and build your own. :)

[@TeamPandory]

@@xxcffff8275 if you think about the licensing, cab itself and quality of emulation, it's not actually too bad... But yeah, it is pretty pricey and really could've done with a square gate. Authentic MVS systems are still available so that's probably the way to go for the real arcade experience.

[@Devinilos]

The scanlines used by Hylox are very bad

[@ahhcmon9604]

I would love to have this but I can’t justify it these games are all on switch and it doesn’t have every neo geo game, if it had every neo geo game I could justify it

[@jacobbaranowski]

neo geo

[@stephengiacobozzi7785]

it cost 499 now

[@TeamPandory]

Costs will fluctuate. Especially coming up to Christmas. Add it to your Amazon list, it'll alert you when it changes.

[@zombee38]

Mine is better ...LoL 😆

[@theniteowl7007]

the KOFs stop at 2003???? seriously???

[@TeamPandory]

For the Neogeo MVS they do. Continued on the Hyper Neo64, Atomiswave, Taito X, and other systems.

[@sefiksasma8422]

I have one ask dont have middle punch and kick why?

[@TeamPandory]

For which game ?

[@sefiksasma8422]

King of 97 ?

[@sefiksasma8422]

@@TeamPandory King of fighter 97

[@TeamPandory]

@@sefiksasma8422 none of the king of fighters games have a medium punch or kick. It's only weak or hard. When you put a credit in, it shows your buttons. Give it a watch.

[@sefiksasma8422]

@@TeamPandory i want worochi leona und lori

[@sefiksasma8422]

Can you King of fighter 97 orochi lori ,orochi leona und orochi Team unlock make

[@TeamPandory]

I haven't tried it- but apparently you can do it like this (shameless copy paste, sorry) : 1- Hold start button. Right - Left 5 times than press Low and High Punch for Iori. 2- Hold Start button Up - Down 5 times press low and High kick for Leona. 3- Hold Start button. Up Left Down Right Up down up and press high punch and low kick for Yashiro Team.

[@sefiksasma8422]

@@TeamPandory thank you bro i find thank you very much