0:17 Even Kazuya is surprised by Victor's f+3 punch parry.
@HiroyaFujimiya7 ай бұрын
NANI!? NUOH!?
@0megaD7 ай бұрын
The notes don't say bullet hitbox has been expanded. The notes say Victor's hurtbox has been expanded when using bullet moves. It's labeled as a nerf in the patchnotes because this means certain moves by the opponent (don't ask me which) won't whiff anymore when used during his bullet moves.
@Sh1shiesty7 ай бұрын
I'm so pissed off that they gave the only legit french guy a katana 💀
@eazypeezy45057 ай бұрын
Yeah, should have been a baguette.
@Sh1shiesty7 ай бұрын
@@eazypeezy4505 Should've been an oversized Eiffel tower souvenir
@GameOver-ou1ge7 ай бұрын
Can't have shit in this house
@Countdownsmiles7 ай бұрын
Old French dudes aren't weebs?! My life is a lie!
@anyany20217 ай бұрын
Why?
@smickeyYT7 ай бұрын
I've found that you can get much higher combo damage using that Iai 4, 2 now. But the trick is to bound before you do it, not after. A combo I figured out after testing for a little bit was df2 launch: df4, 2 -> Iai 2 (tornado) -> df4, 2 -> Iai 4, 2 -> db1, 1 into perfumer -> perfumer 1+2. This is 71 damage, pretty good compared to the 65 his usual staple gets. The perfumer 1+2 will also floor break. You can instead end with perfumer 3 for 70 damage, or perfumer 2 for a bit of wall carry. This can be worked into other combos as well, I believe so far the trick is to not exceed 6 hits before doing Iai 4, 2. And being able to heat burst after it means even crazier damage with a f1+2 heat dash u1+2 (84 total if done in the previous combo) db1, 1 and heat burst seem to be the only things that will connect after Iai 4, 2
@carlo57716 ай бұрын
Thanks mate. Picked Victor up recently. Did you discover this combo on your own?
@carlo57716 ай бұрын
I incorporated that df 4, 2 into Iai 4, 2 work in most of my combos thanks man
@smickeyYT6 ай бұрын
@@carlo5771 I figured it out myself day 1, I'm sure a lot of other people have found them too and made videos of it
@amundkringensamuelsen6477 ай бұрын
You just do down back 1, 1 after the new Iai tornado. Makes his combo universal with all launchers for a decent damage increase.
@HiroyaFujimiya7 ай бұрын
Those who dont know: Good news guys, they nerfed Victor! Those who know: Damn now he get 8 branches of 50/50 while before Victor players always used to on 3 holy grail : Expulsion! Kulkas! And armored knife spam.
@lightingthief44827 ай бұрын
In other words: he is nerfed in some areas but uber buffed in others. Oh boy....
@darkninja94997 ай бұрын
@@lightingthief4482yeah but there's gonna be a way around him now
@oneofthekindscarf86127 ай бұрын
@lightingthief4482 Basically they're changing him from spamming 3 or 4 broken attacks and made him a stance mix up character like he should've always been
@TheReaperRock7 ай бұрын
And that's why the patch should have been focused straight on nerfs. These "compensating buffs" for half the cast are gonna create a whole new set of problems that weren't there. They keep fixing stuff and then breaking some other, they don't learn.
@xecydez7 ай бұрын
it's been almost 5 months and there's still ppl call LAI stance. Brother its IAI
@Bafford6 ай бұрын
Yaoi stance, gotcha
@phenomenalsuave7 ай бұрын
The way I use Victor is buffed. I'll have more 50/50 utility and overall versatility. FF 2 into IAi stance to start pressure/mix. D2 in stance +4 now! My combos with gun won't drop. Punch parry! FF2 and U 1+2 was getting side stepped already. I'm liking the changes
@remigusker7 ай бұрын
Same. Literally the only thing that's changed for me post patch is b1+2 can't whiff punish from quite as far away. Everything else is either irrelevant or an outright buff
@phenomenalsuave7 ай бұрын
@@remigusker You're exactly right. I was trolling yesterday and landing b1+2 at a pretty high rate just to show people it's still damn good.
@BGuhChannel277 ай бұрын
His while running is even crazier than before. His ff2 is still tracking. He's stronger than ever 🤣
@0megaD7 ай бұрын
Better for approach thanks to transition to iai mixup, but worse at close range. Before it was kind of similar to Claudio iWR2 where you could use it in their face if they hesitated a bit, now you'll get launched or stepped every time. Would've preferred if they made it +3 instead of +2 on block though to allow for a few more safe options on block.
@BGuhChannel277 ай бұрын
@@0megaD he has punch parry with mixup 🤣
@garymichalles83837 ай бұрын
@@0megaD Its startup frames are slower now, so easy to interrupt or step too.
@lonevibes31727 ай бұрын
Ff2 doesn’t track counter clockwise side step
@ykattt997 ай бұрын
i like they didn’t kill him,actually some good changes,i was scared he’s gonna get massacared😅 Now when bullshit is gone i can play him peacefully 😂
@agreen317 ай бұрын
I stg the only people affected by this are the Victor bots. These are very welcome changes to advanced players 💯🤣
@renelopez35477 ай бұрын
Well at least Victor mains need to actually think to play the game.
@caisegamble6837 ай бұрын
We actually do think learn how to stop it lmao.
@africankingjon7 ай бұрын
there were a lot more braindead characters than victor lmao, one of them also being a new character azucena
@eliprochet577 ай бұрын
@@africankingjon thank you victor may be a beginner friendly character but ppl get around him a lot and plus a lot of characters are just better then him anyways but all you'll hear is complaints about him
@yourcutemc7 ай бұрын
1:35 well deserved Farzeen kept spamming the hell out of that move💀🙏
@darkninja94997 ай бұрын
Farzeen better pick someone else 😂🙏
@garymichalles83837 ай бұрын
@@darkninja9499 Farzeen is a god tier player, he'll still wipe the floor with everyone. It's the low-level Victors that need to be scared.
@darkninja94997 ай бұрын
@@garymichalles8383 the way he did knee was so uncalled for
@biivii1007 ай бұрын
@garymichalles8383 That's the problem. God tier player playing a character with bullshit moves. It's fucking nightmare fuel.
@darkninja94997 ай бұрын
@@biivii100 basically giving doomsday a iq of 240
@AndreiGonzalesDesign7 ай бұрын
He has a 70 damage combo off normal now: df2, df42, iai 42, db11~f, perf 22, iai 2, then either b31 or u1+2. Consistent even if off axis (after a sidestep)
@MrWasabiTrash7 ай бұрын
You can actually get tornado after IAI 4,2 with ff2 but its timing is very strict
@JasonJtran7 ай бұрын
Nah this is an overall buff for victor..
@X_The_Y7 ай бұрын
wouldnt exactly say that nerfing his 3 best moves is a buff for victor, brother That said we might be looking at a rework soon if they buff his other soon to make him less braindead.
@hywolfgaming89327 ай бұрын
On what planet?
@garymichalles83837 ай бұрын
Not at all...
@tristanherb497 ай бұрын
definetly now people can learn to play tekken.
@SaintConnor7 ай бұрын
@@X_The_Y but they buffed others in their place. He's not nerfed, just different. Instead of fishing he's more CQC based like his character (lore wise at least) is meant to be. His 101 dmg no wall CH wr2 is gone, sure, but he can still push into the 90s easily and can do so in more ways. Routes are easier, bnbs do more damage, wall carry is actually insane now too.
@ghostsonic977 ай бұрын
Why everytime victor do ff2 I misheard him saying "SHAHEEN!"
@rickberny14247 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie, he got a ton of new and cool stuff, id say if you were ACTUALLY good with victor you might enjoy him even more, how ever this patch is detriment to all the lowtiergods put there spamming b1+2, ff2 and expulsion like they were goin out of style.
@garymichalles83837 ай бұрын
I mean, they were right though, because ff2, b1+2, and expulsion DID go out of style! 😂
@tabkg58027 ай бұрын
B1+2 nerf seems mad reactionary from bumco. Entire cast with similar powercrushes got hit MUCH lighter than him
@professoremil7 ай бұрын
I did the punch parry on accident against a Steve with no prior knowledge of it existing and I was just like “Umm…excuse me, but WTF DID I JUST DO!?” We were both flabbergasted, but I considered it payback for all the times Steve players made me feel silly by becoming lore accurate against me and dodging bullets. 😂
@Boultify7 ай бұрын
Remember its a balance/offensive but not nerf😊
@kemalerdemsahin4107 ай бұрын
Hi me
@Boultify7 ай бұрын
@@kemalerdemsahin410 oh, nice to meet you
@chucklos3917 ай бұрын
@@kemalerdemsahin410shut up Steve
@chucklos3917 ай бұрын
@@Boultifyshut up other Steve
@Boultify7 ай бұрын
@@chucklos391 don't cry, the game is much better than before. We waited for months but still played nerfed steve.
@antoniobanderas53167 ай бұрын
I guess people haven't figured out you can get out of negative frames with perfumer :D Oh, boy.
@strayzzfaxz67407 ай бұрын
These changes make him a lot more interesting and fun to play for me
@FidoHusky7 ай бұрын
1:55 is what I came for glad they made that move very side steppable, 2:44 excellent to know another braindead move he had this is good this is good !
@lexen50687 ай бұрын
Literally the only character I hate playing against 😭war never changes
@Mr440c7 ай бұрын
The sword stance is not "Lai" it's Iai as in Iai-do. He's about to draw.
@ebreorafaely.76877 ай бұрын
The down forwad 2, what was the frame punish before?
@Justlookingaround197 ай бұрын
Damm... Victor just got worst to play againts
@garymichalles83837 ай бұрын
Wdym, his main trio: powercrush, expulsion, and wr2 are completely worthless now. He has absolutely 0 tools to stop pressure. He can't enter stance easily, so if you pressure him he'll fold like a pancake
@strayzzfaxz67407 ай бұрын
@@garymichalles8383 Everything you said is just wrong
@garymichalles83837 ай бұрын
@@strayzzfaxz6740 elaborate or leave
@Snare97 ай бұрын
Super sidestep-able now , without strong lows, just block and counter...
@MadKingKolo7 ай бұрын
For his Lai 4,2 maybe they meant it to be a wall carry now after spin
@rryuko36687 ай бұрын
can you make a vid about lars and shaheen ;DD
@dualcypher007 ай бұрын
Hmmmm ill have to lab the parry a bit more was testing it last night and could not get it to work
@chucklos3917 ай бұрын
It’s a hard one. Only works for punches. Wish it parried all.
@dualcypher007 ай бұрын
@chucklos391 yea, I saw the patch notes say hands only, lol. After messing with it, I found out how to do it properly. Thought it was a glitch at first
@khaibarkhan52307 ай бұрын
please upload all characters patch update thank you
@och1ro7 ай бұрын
Btw the pick up after lai 4,2 is db1,1 or df3
@Countdownsmiles7 ай бұрын
Looks like a lot of buffs actually lol
@Ahmedalammary017 ай бұрын
they given him new stance new moves and they call it nerf? i saw as a buff for him given him more options to play with some nerf damage for sertin moves
@garymichalles83837 ай бұрын
It's not just a damage nerf, all of his three strongest moves (powercrush, coup de grace/wr2, and expulsion) are now useless. It's pretty much a completely different character.
@biivii1007 ай бұрын
@garymichalles8383 Useless? Bro whatever you're smoking I want some.
@fancyhermit77 ай бұрын
The FF+2 madness has ended
@joeysukhi68897 ай бұрын
When will ff2 tracking get nerfed. He has enough spacing tools...
@garymichalles83837 ай бұрын
He's got 0 tracking on most of his moves, easily one of the top 5 most linear characters in the game. If you nerf everything, might as well delete the character
@remigusker7 ай бұрын
@@garymichalles8383Vic haters won't be satisfied until he's literally unplayable
@dronnovik957 ай бұрын
So with powercrush nerf he cant punish demoman and similar ones now?
@garymichalles83837 ай бұрын
Yep, using b1+2 as a whiff or block punish is impossible now.
@biivii1007 ай бұрын
b3 1+2 fellas. Cmon now.
@dronnovik957 ай бұрын
@@biivii100 its kinda shitty idea to throw out heavy punishable i17 move into -17 with inconsistant pushback online with unstable lagspikes all over the place. Though you i right, i thought b3 was i18
@RurouniiJay7 ай бұрын
It took me awhile to notice but its not Lai stance its iai. Japanese art/stance for unsheathing your blade really quickly, its putting yourself in a position to perform devastating and blinding attacks from that stance
@georgej93667 ай бұрын
This is okay balancing
@hywolfgaming89327 ай бұрын
Expulsion needed a damage nerf not a tracking nerf….
@AssilAk7 ай бұрын
And he did get it didn’t he? In addition to that it is SO easy to side step it now it’s laughable so where’s the problem
@smickeyYT7 ай бұрын
No, it did need a tracking nerf
@hywolfgaming89327 ай бұрын
@@smickeyYT I disagree. They gutted it. Range is shorter. The tracking actually just doesn’t exit you don’t need to side walk just a half ss gets you a free punish. You can only use it as a wall break and combo ender now.
@smickeyYT7 ай бұрын
@@hywolfgaming8932 Bro it's a super evasive, high damage, safe move. It had zero weaknesses in heat. It NEEDED a tracking nerf. It is not gutted, you just now have to use it THOUGHTFULLY instead of MINDLESSLY. Relax
@sharma48267 ай бұрын
This is getting spammed by Vic haters.. His three best moves were turned to trash in one patch.. This isn’t the same character at all.. All his best stuff now is hidden behind his stances.. Top three moves gutted this was is insane. Back 1+2 is almost comical to watch smh. I’ll see how things shake out but even Farzeen is blown away.
@kujo43887 ай бұрын
They tried so hard to ruin u1+2 but it still saves my ass
@michaelfortini32367 ай бұрын
Can you do one about Feng?
@jpu80147 ай бұрын
new victor combos pleaseee
@RR350317 ай бұрын
lol the most braindead new carry character gets even more braindead options. nice
@-.DIO.-7 ай бұрын
I have a combo for you bro df2 df34 21f prf22 iai42 d1+2 T! qcf2 iai122 73 damage (off axis) df2 df34 ws1+2f prf 22 iai42 d1+2 T! qcf2 iai122 75 damage
@garymichalles83837 ай бұрын
d1+2 after iai 4 2 is not guaranteed, they can tech roll and it doesn't pick up.
@foreveruseless12927 ай бұрын
So glad this bruh got some nerfs lol but he's still gonna be annoying to fight lmao
@Hisagi1977 ай бұрын
Every character is now and a lot worse then victor
@Haptic_Sensation7 ай бұрын
He's cool now. Now I can play him and not feel like an asshole.
@funish00097 ай бұрын
Now he's much worse to play against 😒
@AlterAce7 ай бұрын
lmao victor players actually have to learn how to play tekken now 😂
@garymichalles83837 ай бұрын
Wait until they add Akuma back into the game
@hammadumar40827 ай бұрын
Asuka plz
@1789crazy2 ай бұрын
Victor is completely ruined
@yellowscarlightningscream83477 ай бұрын
Victor is dead.......his mixups are the weakest of all stance characters