Why Everyone Hates Victor In TEKKEN 8

In todays video I go over why everyone seems to hating victor in Tekken 8. If you guys enjoyed the video and want to see more stuff like this please consider subscribing or showing the video to a friend. It means the world :)
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[@Boogard]

What do you guys think about Victor in this game? Also let me know which characters you want to see me talk about next!

[@pokemondudepoopyork3386]

I would love to see you talk about Zafina if you don't mind. What I personally think about Victor is that he is a cool character, just infamous for what he has in his kit.

[@Channel1Mind]

I think you're being very nice to that garbage over design cyber ninja. The next person I'd like to see is Claudio, but I can't figure out why they buffed Leroy when he was perfectly balanced already. So I guess I like you to do Leroy Smith, the idiots guide to parrys 101 master.

[@redline841]

I main Shaheen, a babyface character that's super honest I hear.

[@mccollio0909]

He's ... Scrubby ngl. At fujin level, they've got among the worst fundamentals in the game generally. He's quite carried. There's counterplay (linear) but it's annoying to fight them agreed. He most spammable moves are difficult to punish (including expulsion if the victor spaces it correctly) I think he belongs in soul caliber more than tekken imo.

[@sterlingjames1599]

@@mccollio0909 Bud, you can say this about at least 80% of the roster. Once you get to Fujin level a lot of people are "quite carried". Weak argument at best.

[@RjFox09]

The best way to counter the characters you hate is to play them yourselves and learn their weaknesses..

[@Boogard]

Absolutely 💯

[@captaintacosauce3220]

Lab is enough no need to play as them

[@zipperman1063]

Or get ass whooped enough times

[@Josie.770]

That's why I'm a victor main now. If you can't beat 'em join 'em! (Now I can beat 'em)

[@zer0cx110]

Shhhh. They not supposed no that

[@foxy9011]

I remember when Tekken was a martial arts tournament. With a a ninja from space and a bear in it as well.

[@Ramsey276one]

YEP XD

[@manniepas1769]

For the most part still is Tekken, hopefully it gets balance out well with future patches

[@liamroma3677]

It still is though. For the most part

[@YourXellency]

A fighting wooden tree man will be on the way in a few years.

[@foxy9011]

@@YourXellency omg I miss mokujin lol

[@trouble302]

This man is a Soul Calibur character

[@CharlyYTEK]

LOL YOU'RE SO RIGHT

[@remigusker6024]

If he was a soul Caliber character he wouldn't have some of the worst sidestep in game. XD

[@m4rcin847]

​@@remigusker6024Who need sidestepping when you have teleports and other 100 bullshit moves.

[@remigusker6024]

@@m4rcin847 scrub mentality

[@thegreatslayer7685]

​@@remigusker6024 lol he's right though teleportation is better than sidesteping attacks

[@Carter_Dankman]

I was playing online and I was playing against a victor that was way better than me, he started toying with me and ever since then I've hated victor

[@seanbrown7083]

Toying with you is crazy

[@Section8dc]

I hate when people disrespectful for no reason lol, even if I play a green rank I still treat them like its serious out of respect

[@savage-stan0729]

@@Section8dcnot disrespectful playing a garyu it’s just too easy to beat them so I just do the same moves over and over

[@jacobwooten977]

Your a Victim 😂

[@phenom504]

Victor is a great example of a character that looks cool, but is a pain to deal with. And I think that people expected him to play differently than how he does.

[@Quirkee37]

Gotta disagree on him looking cool to begin with, I think he's insanely overdesigned and mostly comes across as a bit cringe

[@lesbonsamis8171]

An old dude with a pink plastic sword and teleporting because he can’t even move normally. What is cool with him ?

[@tombwady3330]

@@Quirkee37 Yeah behind all that he looks cool, over-cool* but cool

[@daxia0]

@@Quirkee37 overdesigned? its literally a old dude in a suit with a cyber sword and a 9mm. if you think victor is cringe then 90% of the tekken roster is cringe for you anyways lol

[@Quirkee37]

@@daxia0 AND a karambit, AND pulse blast gloves, AND a second knife, AND techno teleports, AND an occompanying big ass cyber sheath for his katana that he also uses And all of this is just surface level, the way he is animated is also very over the top. For example Lars could also be accurately described simply as "anime haired guy in cyber suit" but he is so much more extra and over the top than that makes him sound Victor is basically Raven, Yoshi, Lars and Noctis all rolled into one with an added splash of super spy for the hell of it And at least two of the characters I just mentioned were already overdesigned and kind of cringe in their own right

[@MutenRoscher]

Whoreang difficult to play is the funniest thing ive heard today

[@PharoahsKingdom]

Yeah i couldn't believe he said that 😂

[@tongpoo8985]

And Xiaoyu... Lol.

[@selmathers5830]

I'm a hwoarang main in blue ranks currently, he has a huge moveset and stances with unsafe moves that many players don't punish in red and lower ranks but once u hit purple and higher it becomes a lot more difficult for hwoarang to keep pressure without getting launched, all your opponent needs is one good read while you're in flamingo and boom, 70+ damage taken, not to mention the fact that he has weak pokes and lows (except for d3,4).

[@Mr440c]

​@@selmathers5830he is a lot safer than he used to be. 4,3 being safe nh string is ridiculous. He has a ton of power crushes one of which jumps over lows and throws LOL He has a lot of tools to cover you up so you don't have to use your brain too much. And they don't.

[@tyb.531]

@@Mr440cwhich of his power crushes exactly jumps over throws?

[@doktor3196]

SHINY! EXPRESSIOWN!

[@Boogard]

COUPAS

[@Ramsey276one]

O M G XD I know the second one is EXPLOSION, but since I lack the console I don't know the first one...

[@JunKazamaFan]

The first one is the f,f+2 sound.

[@ekubalk96]

DESPERSION

[@doktor3196]

@@ekubalk96 I forgot about that. Also "Jotto Jigau" Pronounces like Japanese saying "A little different"

[@rip2you]

My best advice for anyone who finds this matchup annoying is to just straight disrespect his stances. The pressure is mostly fake and you can option select most common flowcharts. He's very straight forward as a character so labbing him really isn't that tedious compared to others

[@MoeMunnie023]

power crush thru all of them.

[@AbsolutelyAbsurDDD]

A good victor will absolutely destroy you for doing this. Any Victor that goes into IAI or Perfumer on block is either really bad at Victor or is disrespecting your reactions like crazy, which only three exceptions. The first is Monsieur Samurai, which is usually done after a wr2 or a heat engager, and leads into plus frames. This is the main way any good victor will ever enter stance on block. If you press, the 4 option will win as well as potentially deleting your HP if you're back is to a wall. 4 also beats power crushes which is why you can't spam power crushes vs the stance. The 1 cancel into IAI stance is often used to loop pressure against turtles and get free counterhits into damage and oki against people who mash. The other two are perfumer 2,2, into IAI, or u1, into IAI, both options threatening an extension that gives good reward on counterhit. Long story short, disrespecting Victor's stances will only work against a bad Victor. And if the opposing Victor is bad, then by all means, do so. But don't make it a bad habit. Learn what good ways Victor has into his stance pressure, and adjust accordingly.

[@jkdman2007]

​@@AbsolutelyAbsurDDD True. It's + frame and it will connter you hard for trying to disrespect his + frame moves.

[@remigusker6024]

@@AbsolutelyAbsurDDD one of my favorite checks for how competent or experienced in the match up someone is is trying to bully with the stances in round one. Almost immediately tells you if someone knows they're spacing and when to be cautious vs someone's who's just gonna try to run in and mash. Ironically though the mashers are actually harder sometimes because they'll unexpectedly clip you out of stuff.

[@dave9020]

@@MoeMunnie023 Just don't powercrush the ground stab in heat

[@johnnynguyen3521]

EXPULLLSSSSIIIOOOONNNNN. I liked him from the trailer drop last year alongside the Paris theme. I enjoy the French Wick. People complain about him being too strong however at high level, other characters straight up out perform him.

[@Boogard]

Yeah he's just another a tier character in a game where pretty much everyone is a tier

[@AbsolutelyAbsurDDD]

Tekken King Victor here, and I will say Victor is extremely frustrating to play against in lower ranks. During my climbs with other characters, such as Steve, Hwo, Law, Drag, etc (to Fujin), i always hated running into Victor, but the problem is just that he's gimmicky. I will admit, Victor is an absolute free pass all the way to Fujin. Below Raijin, nobody knows to fuzzy duck f4, 1, nobody baits expulsion, appropriately checks b1+2 and most importantly, nobody sidesteps, which is Victor's main weakness, which makes the character feel impossible to fight. But once Victor mains start facing players who play the matchup even decently, Victor becomes entirely fundamentals. People use tighter frame traps which make expulsion not really work consistently at all. B1+2 gets check by low-commitment lows or gets checked with a jab into a duck and launch (this move is still godlike, don't get me wrong), f4, 1, gets fuzzy ducked, your pressure gets sidestepped all the time, and then you realize against strong opponents Victor has a to play a very honest poking and counter-hit game, whilst only being able to force offense against opponents that are conditioned to stand still, whilst also not having good lows for opening up opponents. and I'd say at higher ranks Victor plays more honest tekken than a lot of other characters. I'm not saying Victor is bad and am in no way trying to downplay. He's solidly A tier and in the top 5 easiest characters to pilot imo. After a heat engager, his offense can get extremely degenerate, but that's most characters tbh. I'm just saying once you reach Raijin, the carry stops, and you have to start actually playing extremely honest, and the character becomes much lest frustrated to face. My second highest ranked character is Eddy in Kishin, and when I play vs opposing Victor's it feels like solid Tekken because the opposing Victor knows bettter than to spam expulsion or b1+2. I'm still working on the fuzzy duck though.

[@hands-ongaming7180]

Who do you think is top 5 easy to pilot?

[@AbsolutelyAbsurDDD]

@@hands-ongaming7180 In no particular order, Victor, Azucena, Bears (because nobody knows the matchup), Asuka, Dragunov,

[@hands-ongaming7180]

@@AbsolutelyAbsurDDD thanks for filling my curiousity. personally I’d replace eddy with dragunov but that’s just me and my poor skill to pilot him( could be because I find him boring to pilot)

[@AbsolutelyAbsurDDD]

@@hands-ongaming7180 He isn't super far from it tbh. I don't blame you for having him in you top 5 easiest. You can literally hit Garyu by just spamming 3 lmao

[@NeverGiveUp-hn1qk]

​@AbsolutelyAbsurDDD man can you check out some of my matches with Victor? Im only mighty ruler with him but everything you said is spot on and him being linear its a pain to work around that weakness...against the stronger players his wr2 and u1+2 in heat only gonna get you so far

[@TheScepter25]

The thing that sucks the most is that this was my first tekken that I decided to take seriously and what's the number 1 thing FGC content creators always say when it comes to you picking your main? "Pick someone who looks cool to you!" So following in their advice, I see the victor trailer and go wow this character looks cool asf I'm gonna main him. Fastforward to after the game releases and I constantly see victor mains getting shit online. Ik myself and Ik I dont use any of the Victor "cheese" so imma keep it pushin but goddamn the victor main slander is tiring sometimes.

[@Boogard]

Don't let it get to you bro all that matters is that you are having fun 💯

[@hands-ongaming7180]

As a Devil Jin player I can relate. At least you’re not going to get nerfed like we were

[@remigusker6024]

Victor main myself, screw the haters

[@iamspeed403]

Jun player here. U just get used to it.😂

[@youkirosewarne1516]

Tekken player here. You get used to it

[@captaintacosauce3220]

Victor is a symptom of modern Tekken. Folks that strawman older Tekken games disregarding them as poke and defense only got the Tekken they wanted and they can live with that lmao

[@juniorfanti3005]

Tekken 8 in a nutshell bro, just make all attacks + frame, homing, chip damage , fast recovery , counter hit launching. That’s the game for you bro

[@Klongu_Da_Bongu]

What's funny is that Tekken 7 on the higher levels was poke and defense focused. Like Steve (One of the examples), constantly poking while fishing for Counter hit launchers - no launch except while standing lauch necessary. I'm also talking about higher levels of play, not ranked where Marduk or King could defeat 90 percent of players.

[@Nerwrax15]

Lowtiergod: Victor doesn't have tools💀💀💀

[@FirstNameLastName-rn7mp]

Victor only wr2 and b 1+2. Outside of that he is a dollar store lars

[@ragnarocks2617]

One thing I hate about Tekken is its wonky hit boxes that make absolutely no sense sometimes.

[@bastiwen]

They're especially bad in this entry. Sometimes you sidestep a move, it looks like it completely missed you yet you get hit. Some move in this one also have incredibly broken tracking. Yould be behind a guy and his move would still make him do a 180 to hit you.

[@Divin3Valor]

I could listen to Boogard talk all day, great video as always

[@ShinDagore]

the only reason im having the greatest of the funs with tekken 8 its because of every single character is broken. mostly like kof 13 but with tekken. thanks for the content, we needed this.

[@FortuneKOF]

😌always great to see a fellow kof xiii enjoyer

[@Klongu_Da_Bongu]

It's like every character absorbed a bit of Hwoarangs soul

[@zollith4768]

Victor loyalist here. As someone who competed in Soulcalibur, he was easily the newcomer I was most interested in from day 1, and indeed things like the reach on his weapon attacks felt familiar to me (his df2 is an especially good example). I gradually learned how valuable his cheapest moves were, especially when coming across other Victors online with what I'd call a more, uh, "shameless" playstyle. Speaking of SC, I ended up maining 2B in that game, who was also notorious for having her own flavour of cheese that was widely hated, so even the fact I'm playing a character with this kind of reputation feels like already trodden territory to me XD Even if his most annoying moves get nerfed - and I'm sure they will - I can't see myself dropping him any time soon. Vive le France lmao

[@octobbie]

I recently discovered your channel and I just wanna say your videos are super informative especially for a newbie like me! My only nitpick is some of the videos you use in the background have a very low bitrate (most notably at 1:50)

[@moodyhamadalla8195]

i never really thought of hwuarang as a difficult character to play, so i feel like there is a ton im missing, can anyone fill me in on how he is considered hard along side yoshimitsu?

[@BabzzzO]

Seen a few of your videos, and it’s great content! Keep it up. Earned a subscriber 💪😎

[@Boogard]

Thank you so much!

[@totallynotlars1189]

your content is very informative and easy to understand, subscribed.

[@Boogard]

Really appreciate it 🙏

[@remigusker6024]

The funniest thing about Victor is that he's firmly mid tier. He's an absolute scrub killer that thrives on brutal counter hits. But against decent players his linearity and lack of abusable lows makes it really hard to open people up.

[@jkdman2007]

He is a scrub character itself. Victor players are carried. If they switch to other non bs characters they will have difficulty to rank up as their victor.

[@remigusker6024]

@@jkdman2007 L take and fanciful cope. But if it makes you feel better then keep telling yourself that. Maybe if you didn't mash Victors wouldn't walk all over you.

[@ekubalk96]

@@jkdman2007 Nina of Alisa muuuuuch more cancer

[@BuleTheKing14]

I mean it also depends which character your playing. For me playing Kazuya which whom you have to read and carefully counter attack is hard because most of my moves are slow and have zero poking.

[@greatestnitemare6626]

@@remigusker6024Sounds like a pathetic Victor main

[@ninjaguysith]

I think he has the second best character design of any new Tekken character to have come out, Reina being number one. You mentioned "character identity" and I heard that term thrown out a lot but not sure exactly what it means. Can you make a video on that?

[@bonsch123]

Really like your videos man. Good luck with the channel! As a video suggestion; can you do one about why people are hating on our Swedish prince Lars? He's my main and when I fight mirror matches I have a pretty easy time. Sure he's got 50/50s but so does everyone. Where's the hate coming from?

[@samsoniteprosser591]

I played a lot of Victor at the beginning and didn't realize his WR2 and power crush were so schnasty. I got to Garyu mostly playing FF2, DB3, and of course U1+2. He's got a lot of frame trap stuff that is super good at low level stomping when people are incentivized to just run their offence and mash every interaction. Once I was playing against people who wouldn't mash I hit a huge wall, and probably would have needed to understand his plus frame moves in order to progress much. I did switch to Alisa, so you're 2 for 2 on your bingo card with noob stomping easy to pilot characters. :)

[@justinhaddock6636]

Content has been great lately, keep it up!

[@Boogard]

Appreciate it!

[@JunKazamaFan]

I love Victor. Riding the Expulsion Express for life.

[@chucklos391]

He is so cool. I main him.

[@Rizu-Senpai]

Sidestep left for life. :)

[@user-pc3ul8wz7n]

Well i know that in life you make pick always the easiest option.

[@therealblackcerberus2371]

*Sidewalk

[@rafaelvelez6596]

Yeah you only play for the cheese and easy wins, go play fortnite

[@swordmeisterguy6752]

LTG mains an A and an S-tier character and still somehow manages to play them like they're D-tier.

[@XNDL44]

Victor players seem most likely to run a flowchart in ranked and then quit mid set once their gimmicks stop working

[@averageleeplayer]

This is exactly how they are , I don't find him difficult cuz I used to play with him so I know how to counter him , no Victor ever rematches if they lose. Nothing wrong with playing him I just find Lee way more fun.

[@brianallison9437]

Bro thats literally every character in the game? Every character has a flow to them.

[@ThisIsEduardo]

YUP😂😂 made a victor quit

[@Klongu_Da_Bongu]

To be fair a lot of "Flow Charts" can be dodged by just backdashing unless it's got some lows involved. When Victor dissapears but he whiffs, he's toast. Backdash into launcher stops Victor in his tracks, not keepout - which is why a lot of people struggle... For a bit.

[@WaterKirby__64]

Super awesome video, Boogard. Claudio and Victor are my favorite Tekken characters. I main them both. I don't care what the haters say or think. Screw them. Keep up the awesome content 🤠👍🏼

[@therealdude707]

I know Azucena got heavy nerfs. And she probably less hated. But would you consider making a video on how hated Azucena was. For archival purposes?

[@alekid]

I'm surprised how many fans this character has. I find him visually banal, just a guy in a suit, and I deeply hate fire weapons in fighting games.

[@funkrates4778]

He must have slept with your girlfriend

[@joshblackwell8632]

Kazuya would be just a guy in a suit or a shirtless guy in pants too without his devil powers. It's not out of the ordinary.

[@RazzJinko001]

​@@joshblackwell8632Kszuya has an iconic look! His duck Hair, big eye brows, red eye, comic body with scars, and his gloves and pants have a brilliant design! Nothing you can say about victor!

[@OsirisMawn]

He doesn't fit in Tekken at all

[@joshblackwell8632]

@@OsirisMawn massively disagree. We know the world of Tekken is extremely advanced technologically, supernatural & mystical It would be silly at this point to say this dude in a suit (Also has his army outfit) that teleports & uses a sword "doesn't fit the series".

[@momzilla2010]

"weak lows" what about his sweep that is +6 on block that is a juggle starter on CH? it's a expressive low that forces you to take the next attack.

[@lenzachi6092]

Thanks for speaking about this 🙏🏻 ❤

[@momzilla2010]

great video. i'm alrady subbed

[@miscellaneouscam953]

This is a good video. I’ll sub

[@micha_elknight]

appreciate the respect and insights

[@Mr99cent]

Sooooo true... one guy beat me with that one move over and over even blocking he still did damage it was really annoying

[@Slackjaw]

Its true. I tea bag almost every victor i beat

[@ColdAssailant29]

Based

[@YourXellency]

I Panda-Sleep next to every Victor I play.

[@professorboltzmann5709]

gigachad move

[@funkrates4778]

You’re one of those emotional crybaby players I see

[@Slackjaw]

@@funkrates4778 bruh its a video game. You sensitive little boy or whatever pronoun you go by.

[@liviekumori]

Honestly, it feels pretty good to counter him when you know how he fights.

[@LeMiniBigBoss]

Ive flip flopped on this character so much, but after getting him to raijin with all the other characters i play i couldnt help but fall in love 😂. Just wish he had more depth to him

[@JamaalSTL]

The move when he hits the ground and the explosion happens…. I’m surprised that didn’t get brought up lol

[@redline841]

The falling sword attack isn't plus on block right?

[@funkrates4778]

In heat it’s a different move

[@drunken_viper]

Steve main here ..... sometimes Steve looks at me and says "I'm tired Boss". Some characters do take more effort and deliberation to pilot...you actually have to think about and assess every situation unlike some characters that dont require much thinking or execution...that's how the term brain dead came about. Characters like victor will only take you so far with gimmicks ...wanna have fun then its ok..but when you reach that ceiling you will have to put in the due effort...and that varies for each character ,some characters reach that ceiling earlier and some dont even have one(they do but kinda don't ykyk).

[@rip2you]

Victor is the character I feel I've truly meshed with in my experience playing Tekken. Nothing more satisfying than landing a CH1+2. Plus his design itself is just awesome af. I will say WR2 is lowkey kinda problematic with its tracking but other than that I think he's fine (but a buff to the tracking on his pokes could be cool). I hit TGS with him today. Really looking to see how far I can push this character to hit GoD.

[@remigusker6024]

I name the counter hitting db4 for maximum satisfaction. You get that moment as they crumple when you both know you're about to take them for a ride and the cost of admission is 50% or more of their bar. No joke more than once I've literally won a round right off the start with one touch via a cheeky db4.

[@PharoahsKingdom]

Must be your first Tekken because that's wild that you said that

[@rip2you]

@@PharoahsKingdomit's my 3rd😭

[@cibo4569]

Yo can we play? What's your region? I'm tekken king with Victor

[@rip2you]

@@cibo4569 Yeah sure, I'm in EU :) also, I made it to GoD; was very fun but i've taken a bit of a break on Victor since then. currently learning Bryan

[@nathanbreen1495]

Fun fact, if you either have the read or are very fast on reaction some characters like lars and Shaheen can scoop his expulsion out of the air with their orbitals or superman punch style moves........oh it does pitiful damage and you get no combo and it doesn't cost him heat

[@Alexcobra861]

As a Frenchman, I think you pronounced his first and last name very well.

[@Arwing65]

I'm a Victor main and in my overall playtime on casual and ranked matches it is incredibly rare for me to see another Victor player. I think his silly dialogue in combat is something I really enjoy while using him and he's just overall fun to use.

[@PharoahsKingdom]

Its not rare. He's all over the place. Now seing Zafina that's rare

[@DrOinkman]

best way to counter the 3rd move is to simply kick in the air...

[@KingSlayerGoose]

I could be tripping but im pretty sure that the fact that his kit is 90% weapons it means he's bordeline unparryable? (Which would be pretty much my only gripe with him considering hes easy and being unparryable is just too much enabling for the lower skilled player-base IMO).

[@Floridamangaming729]

When i first started playing Tekken 8. And this is my first Tekken btw. I wanted to play Victor simply to cosplay as Vergil from devil may cry. I didn’t realize how braindead his play style is. I didn’t feel like i was learning the game it felt way too cheesy. So i switched to Lars and yea he was way more challenging and it felt so good getting to Garyu with him. I felt like i was actually learning how to properly play the game. I kinda regret not picking Paul though because i think i would’ve improved even better. I think I’m going to play some more Victor for the fun of it. And Paul of course.

[@PharoahsKingdom]

Respect for being real.

[@paceee7380]

New to Tekken, and Victor was the first character I gelled with, he's pretty simple to get the basics down with, really enjoy the game with him.

[@henrynguyen4315]

Its the i15 power crush thats super annoying and WR3 is very hard to step. They should reduce the tracking on this

[@kingsman5121]

Victor is not good in this game. But you don’t have to be a good character to be annoying.

[@Chickadee777]

Exactly. People hate bears, and they are low tier.

[@tbndidntpop7072]

Check the pakistan tournament and tell me he is not good.

[@Itsfld]

I used this example with a buddy of mine and it clicked when we talked about why we instinctively hate victor: It’s hard being content when you see someone get paid a dollar to skip and you get paid a penny to run.

[@ultimaarma7016]

What about king ? Is mega ridiculous, you cannot grab out if you don't push the button like an electric 😅

[@JohnSmith-yn9ju]

Victor is a scrub character. I believe powercrushing heat engagers shouldn’t be in the game. You’re giving players a free 50/50 with it. I used him and to my surprise he has more than 4 moves😭😭

[@goldshogun1574]

I've wanted to main Victor since before Tekken came out. He's my favorite character archetype with his guns, knives, classy style etc But after the game came out, I heard about how much people hated him, so I swapped to Raven and got him comfortably in Blue Ranks. Raven is cool/fun and all but I do miss playing Victor, I just really like the character and his movement, but I'm worried that people are just going to hate me for it... what should I do?

[@TrainerBlackk]

Play who u like who cares unless his banned in a tournament go for it get your rank up

[@epicwuexcaliburumbra1736]

I don’t hate Victor tbh even tho it’s a pain to fighting against him so what’s your relationship with practice mode.

[@geijienduro7610]

Maybe do Azucena next?

[@KoufalKoufax]

I have a friend who played this character until he reached purple and challenged me for an offline match he got destroyed, with no fundamentals and just spamming the moves over and over until he got predictable and after he lost 16-3 he said Kazuya was just broken. LOL

[@ZenGaijin]

I antiaired his Explosion with my Reina's rage art and I felt like a god!

[@thecollectivegamer3600]

His freaking sword and gun combos get me almost Everytime 😂

[@tooru4461]

i would love nore tekken vids like this

[@nimbusws2566]

As a yoshi main, Victor’s up 1+2 makes me green with envy with how much more evasive it feels than Yoshi’s up 3+4 😂

[@remigusker6024]

I feel so rude in the match up too because every yoshi is trying to do flea shenanigans and I'm just like EXPLUNOPE!

[@nimbusws2566]

@@remigusker6024 I think it'd be cool if the two moves had similar evasive properties so yoshi vs victor matches can turn into alternating the two moves until someone mistimes and fails to dodge XD But on a more serious note it really does seem like yoshi still has an invisible hitbox that opponents can jab float him out of u12 even when he's well above their heads. It's annoying cuz uf2 does a similar jump but Without turning invisible/vanishing, so it feels less evasive but in reality when yoshi's above your head during uf2 you really will miss the jab float.

[@ltcolcapybara]

I picked him because I was hyped from his trailer. Now that everyone hates him I don’t wanna be that guy in ranked lol.

[@Taktaagic]

There’s a lot I like about Victor. His design is dope, he uses a sword and a gun, he’s voiced by Vincent Cassel - the fact he’s on the more simple side to play as was pretty lucky because I wanted to try him out even if he was difficult …Though the biggest reason I play Victor is because I love Noctis and I miss him and this is the closest we’ve got in Tekken 8 to Noct

[@cjyoung5635]

Something you dont see people talk about is he has some alpha peter moves from soul calibur 5 without the harder inputs and they have bonus hits or mixups.

[@zq42black]

I never liked that they gave him a sword. That's Yoshi's thing. And with him wielding two knives and a gun, it felt like a hat on a hat.

[@JohnnyDarko01]

yeah the weapon creep in tekken is getting silly

[@TEHNOOB916]

Thanks now I know how to spam him better.

[@lionelpil8707]

Tekken is litterally the king of iron fist tournament, if you come with knife, gun, cyber katana and a teleport device then i have zero respect for you

[@MC_HANDROLLED]

Glad to see this said. I don’t think it gets much attention because at a high level he’s handled pretty well. But the design is so toxic. B1+2 is so fast and so long range it doesn’t matter that it’s a high. You can low profile it, but you’re not ducking it on reaction or anything and on a read you’re risking ff2 and wr2 mids hitting you. The range means you’re never going to be jabbing him where you can hit the armor then duck (like say Jin’s zenshin 2) and punish. It’s going to be eating like a 16f mid poke that it will counter. He reminds me of Honda in SF6 a lot where he can unga bunga in for free and you can’t really punish it at a low to intermediate level.

[@kevinsyz1201]

ANOTHER TEKKEN CONTENT CREATOR? FUCK YEAH IM SUBBING

[@Boogard]

THANK YOU SO MUCH

[@mmmmmmm5015]

Spam grabs that’s the best counter

[@j.d.prophecy43]

I'm just mad I can't parry his swords

[@Yotanou]

"BS" command list character like Alisa and Victor, in ranked, could be overly annoying when guys spam easy broken move like the ones mention in the video. Of course you can learn to counter them, but the thing is, IF YOU DONT know your opponent character MU well, I really believe Victor and Alisa are WAYY more tough to deal with that Feng or Dragunov for ex. If you know all the MU of course those two are much stronger than Victor/Alisa, but there is tons of thing to learn in the game and until you find the time to have decent knowledge, you will get bodied by those BS character by rank scrub that will spam you and leave after 1 game, leading to the frustration most people feels playing against such character. No other choice but to lab them properly but even so they are not useless afterward either and you are never safe of a panic "EXPULSION" move for ex, that is fucking overly evasive safe on block mid, and actually tough to step in real time due to the commit you have to do on this step. A good player could surely play him until blue rank with only 25% of his command list and with barely no execution skills, so yes most people hate that type of character.

[@liquidsnake23]

I'm just jamming out to sonic music while having rewatch to ACTUALLY listen to the video lol

[@cloud4876]

i main him, and i continue doing so until the high skill characters (bryan and kazuya only) are playable

[@johnkahl6643]

I get nightmares from EXPULSION! 😭😭😭

[@josesoldevilla3092]

The explusion moves is a problem big dmg and just teleport from yhe sky out of nowhere, fast crush moves with + on block is ridiculous and a counter hit stun

[@LeeFeather]

4:26 Reminds me of "Running 3"😂

[@SolidSonicTH]

Honestly, this is a hot take, but I don't think he needs to be nerfed severely. I feel fighting him is a knowledge check matchup. A lot of the time I lose to him does seem to be less down to gimmicks and simply down to what I didn't pick up on. He should be nerfed somewhat but I actually think my own characters besides Kazuya (who needs buffs) need more severe nerfs because a lot of their stuff replaces fundamentals with gimmicks (particularly Jin and Lars). Making him less safe could be warranted but his range does make sense with his fighting style. I'm assuming a lot of his attacks are pretty linear. Just add commitment penalties to some of his longest range attacks. In terms of what can truly ruin my day Feng is more all-around oppressive.

[@xoxofinessing4516]

Man U just gotta be ready to hit his teleport it’s very interruptible online but I needa video on devil Jin and Alissa these mfs be flying around crazy

[@Scrumbalicious]

I think he’s actually pretty cool, it’s the players I don’t like. That and the noise he makes when he does the uppercut thing with his knife.

[@Yung_Honeybun]

Never played victor till now 💪🗣️🗣️🔥💯

[@EACru2002]

It was funny watching the Baaz Gauntlet tournament because I was hoping to find out how the pros deal with and counter Victor's moves. Turns out, they don't lol. They have to hold it just like the rest of us.

[@AaIsForAaliyas]

You don't find much Victor players right now. Well, at least for me I don't see many. I was a raven main, used Master Raven in Tekken 7, probably the hardest character in tekken 8 rn is zafina even with a small buff and her usage rate is still the same. Probably my new favorite character next to Maven. Bamco removing moves to fit as heat engagement imo was just a piss poor decision. Especially for RAVEN.

[@schmiddi5768]

The only element of Victor I really have beef with is EXPULSION while in heat, that shit is nuts. Outside that I really don't mind fighting him

[@CasvanDoornik]

I’ve come across a lot of victor players to spammed the crap out of EXPRESSIOOOWNNNN. So fucking annoying😂🫠

[@nacify]

i really hope that victor is balanced not nerfed in the upcoming patch. he does have his really strong moves and gimmicks but once they're gone he doesn't have anything else so seeing the rest of his kit be useful would be sick as a victor main. if he does just get nerfed though i will keep playing him cause i do find him fun

[@obadboy]

As a Victor main, we see your complaints and counter with - up 1+2, have a blessed day😁

[@Dyleniz]

The fact that I know victor players start the game with the armor move that I option select ss right and react if he does the slow low and just punish them I often start the round with a 60% lead which should not be the case mind you, explosion chips needs to be nerf or atleast punishable in heat Edit : You speech with alisa does not apply with her, you literally have to guess since the chainsaws dont have a clear option select even if you say just SS left it does not work for a lot of moves since a lot of the moves fuckin track left

[@Leo-style2024]

Was doing punishment training with Leo Vs victor lately..I just learned a few things then I kinda forgot the training when I met him online xx and when I see people saying Leo is easy to use it's funny .. when I compare him with the new ones ,I say at least give Leo guns or swords or something then u can say it's fast and easy to use, I'm glad my main is not that popular or he will get the same fate as poor Victor or azucena.

[@markshmellomd1370]

At blue ranks and above no one falls for victor cheese anymore. Most victor players at those ranks just play keepout, and once u respect their range start to wr2 u. His mixups really arent that good and his low pokes give up his turn. So hes really not that tought to deal with if you arent bad at the game. His range might need a bit of a nerf tho lol.

[@TheGodJames]

When they add Noctis back, i can’t hate Victor due to him being flashy. Since, Tekken 8 is still in it’s beginning phase, I can see Victor getting nerf to the core by time the time Tekken 8 be on sale for 20$

[@niltondiaz7945]

Havent played much against Victors but when I do, its a patient game. He has more time intervals between major moves than most characters. Study his timing and youll find an opening soon after

[@luffyandgokuskits]

Yes, I just lost the first round of an Esl World Cup final because of victor

[@SolemnVigil]

I play Viktor for the most part, as he was easy to pick up for a beginner like me when it comes to fighting games. I understand he's frustrating to other newcomers but once you do play him, he's a pretty fair character with clear weaknesses. I do think his WR 2 and 15f powercrush needs a nerf but he really isn't all that big of a deal if you know what you're doing. Pro tip if you're new, Victor's lows are horrible for the most part, the only two decent ones are perfumer+3 (if you get hit don't duck as it will crumple you if he does 3 again) , d/b 4 (watch out for this as it crumples on counterhit) and even those aren't all that amazing if you expect them. Respect his heat, his moves don't track as much as certain other characters and if he spams 2, you can launch him for free if he finishes the string which a lot of beginner Victor's do. I can understand his pressure (or rather fake pressure from his stances as someone mentioned) can be overwhelming at first but he's really not that bad. I'd rather play 50 Victors in a row than a single game against Feng Wei or Azucena. I am now trying to put my time into learning Leo and Reina, both being very difficult for me but I'm doing my best. Remember that games are used for fun, so more fun for you when you beat a character you don't like!

[@imperialistsloth6795]

Oddly enough I haven't fought a Victor in like 2 months.