My 1st time hearing Orange Caramel! Reacting to "Lipstick, Catallena, My Copycat & Abing Abing" Mvs!

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Sir Austin

Sir Austin

Күн бұрын

#orangecaramel #오렌지 캬라멜
This was an intersting experience. They're kind of ICONIC.
Let me know your thoughts!
0:00 INTRO
0:55 LIPSTICK
5:24 MY COPYCAT
10:14 CATALLENA
14:28 ABING ABING

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@sb1363
@sb1363 2 жыл бұрын
I know you're not a dance person, but Orange Caramel is one of the groups that EVERYONE should watch the dance practices for.
@taeraetupatron
@taeraetupatron 2 жыл бұрын
Please he needs to react to dance practice for Catallena
@nyek1246
@nyek1246 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely hahaahah its heartbreaking not to hahaha
@peckypork
@peckypork 2 жыл бұрын
Not only that but their dances are so fun, especially My copycat
@AmigaQ08
@AmigaQ08 2 жыл бұрын
you're a little right about Catellena MV. It's the reason the song is so iconic till today. The MV is about female kpop idols and how the industry devalues them. They start as original and fresh fish of different kinds but when the octopus (high demand girl) comes their value starts falling. Just to keep up with the trend or stay relevant they start dolling up themselves with wasabi and soy sauce (loose their own taste to fit to the preference of the customers) and give sexy poses so they can attract customers ( shows the sexualization of women in the industry and the pressure of standardization that makes them loose individualistic characters). At last they turn into the octopus girl and totally loose themselves but when they are eating their sushi counterparts which is now sold at the lowest price they are reminded of their fresh/original charms/selves from the beginning and start crying. The song itself also refers to this concept. It says even as a girl I find her attractive. So they think the it girl/octopus deserves more and is more valuable than themselves. Song is a huge critic of kpop industry from female idols eyes. It shows how female idols are forced to many things to be successful and they have no choice but to obey even if they loose themselves if they want to be relevant. **PS: the song was also like a lesbian anthem as the lyrics display a woman's attraction to another woman.
@justinjyeung
@justinjyeung 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Orange Caramel is so iconic that...tbh, they're like the only sub-unit to overshadow their main group. What's amazing about them is that they never shied away from being wacky and weird, they even embraced it lol. Yup there's only 3 members, in order of shortest to tallest, Raina, Lizzy, and Nana. Raina is the main vocalist, and Nana is now active as an actress. Other great songs of theirs are "Magic Girl", "A-ing", "Funny Hunny", "Bangkok City" and "Shanghai Romance", the latter two going on a city theme. And the funny part is they all dress up like Nana in "Bangkok City", and then like Raina in "Shanghai Romance" XD "Catallena" is so iconic and especially there's a fun montage of their intros of live stages, where they just shout in time, it's hilarious XD Also I wonder if CFs are just made to be extra catchy after all XD
@ranga1cat
@ranga1cat 2 жыл бұрын
The best explanation I heard regarding the Catallena music video is that’s a metaphor for the K-pop industry. They start as free spirited mermaids and then are turned into sushi (aka trainee years to debut) and become something that people literally consume. That why at the end when they are eating the sushi they start crying while missing their days as mermaids.
@2FullMoons
@2FullMoons 2 жыл бұрын
Ow my GOD. What is this day even? What an iconic group! And I hope we get more After School reactions too! They are one of my fav second gen girl groups.
@coolgirl312
@coolgirl312 2 жыл бұрын
OMG I've been waiting for you to react to Orange Caramel. Yes they are very different from the image they portray as After School. They truly are a unique group. Their music I wouldn't say is fully trot but is trot inspired or "trot-like" so like a mix of pop and trot? That's the signature sound of Orange Caramel. Sidenote: if you look really closely at the guys dancing in the "My Copycat" video, you'll see some Seventeen members, I think Pledis pulled all their trainees out of the basement for that video. The girls dancing later debuted as Pristin. Seventeen also performed with them in some music shows too.
@h_githma
@h_githma 2 жыл бұрын
Ooh yes! Whenever I watch the MV, I play a game of spot the trainee.
@ELmayberry
@ELmayberry 2 жыл бұрын
​@@h_githma ooh.. sounds fun 😂😂
@devronl08
@devronl08 2 жыл бұрын
The next Orange Caramel songs you should check out “Magic Girl, Aing, Shanghai Romance, Bangkok City” All bops and iconic~~ I think you’d like those ones more for sure, if you ever decided to check them out again.
@fantasy9848
@fantasy9848 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah these are iconic
@zammich3649
@zammich3649 2 жыл бұрын
Magic Girl, Aing, and Bangkok City are imo the legendary trio. Pure camp with shredded camp on top then drizzled with hot melted camp all served with a side of camp.
@devronl08
@devronl08 2 жыл бұрын
@@zammich3649 Those, along with Shanghai Romance are my quartet!
@highleee8611
@highleee8611 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, Orange Caramel, the Subunit that shines brighter than the main group it was apart of. The amount of people who don’t know that this is a subunit truly speaks volume for how POPULAR Orange Caramel was during their prime and even to this day. Catallena is probably one of the MOST COVERED Kpop songs of all time
@devronl08
@devronl08 2 жыл бұрын
I think the statement only applies to post 2nd Gen fans and stans, which would make sense since After School stopped making music and Orange Caramel continued on. But yeah any person who was a Gen 2 fan absolutely knew After School as they were iconic and Orange Caramel carried the torch on well after them.
@eirxd5658
@eirxd5658 2 жыл бұрын
Pre-debut Seventeen is also on the My Copy Cat MV and sometimes, their live stages.
@po-razzi
@po-razzi 2 жыл бұрын
First of all, I am always so happy when people finally bless their eyes with Queen Visual Im Jinah aka Nana 😌 (the one you kept calling gorgeous, as you should) Also, you're correct with your darker assumptions about Catallena! The MV caused quite the stir when it came out; a lot of fuss about women being packaged like cheap fish...as in, the entire point...
@quietdistance8594
@quietdistance8594 2 жыл бұрын
Orange Caramel has a special place in my heart and had such a distinct flavor. So much so that when I heard WJSN Chocome for the first time I was thrilled that they were carrying on that legacy.
@juicepottery
@juicepottery 2 жыл бұрын
the member you keep pointing out as gorgeous is NANA and she's the only one left in Pledis as an actress so she's technically HYBE's first actress
@hanng1242
@hanng1242 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The Catallena MV was banned from Korean TV for "denigrating the value of human life." Abing Abing demonstrates how Korean advertising technology is far ahead of ours. Orange Caramel's early stuff was more conventionally cute rather than funny cute, although it was still quirky. They do have an early humorous song (and video), "Funny Hunny" that is off most people's radar for some reason. It can be seen here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpu9gIqEg6qti7M Orange Caramel isn't really trot. Lizzy, however, sings trot. Her solo debut, "Not an Easy Girl" is trot: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6HSpnypjZajnqs The reigning queen of trot today is probably Hong Jin Young; a live performance of her signature song, "Love Battery" can be found here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpymiaZ8d892g9k. A more recent song with more pop influence, "Love Tonight" can be found here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6uyf4qVnd58a6M The queen dowager is probably Jang Yoon Jeong. Her discography is extensive, and many trot singers cover her songs. You should probably just search her name on KZbin and go down the rabbit hole. A rising trot star is Yoyomi. Her signature song is "Who's that Guy," the MV of which is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jauQkKtjp7uhkNE. A music video of more "traditional" trot song by her can be found here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqiYiaxjh9J2pbc. Yoyomi is quite active on KZbin and frequently posts her covers of both trot as well as K-pop songs. The reigning king of trot is probably Park Hyun-bin. A live performance of his breakout song, "Shebang Shebang," can be found here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaXEYa2iYqxmosU. I don't know if you watch Korean TV talk or variety shows, but the nation's MC, Yoo Jae Suk, has made his trot debut under the name Yoo San Seul with two songs: "Hapjeong Station Exit 5" - kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5DFpaGYmr56gdU - and Redevelopment of Love - kzbin.info/www/bejne/naKmpWuDodatiqs Daesung from BIGBANG also has a trot song out, although it is in Japanese since his solo career under the name D-lite is in Japan. Although there is also a Korean version, the official Japanese MV of the song, "Look at me, Gwisun" can be found here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJ2qYZmwabyppbM
@animecookies8784
@animecookies8784 2 жыл бұрын
I love Catallena! I really like the message and satire aspect of the video. You were in the right direction with competition but they're just talking about the value of human lives.
@monemori
@monemori 2 жыл бұрын
The Catallena lives and dance practices were full of sillyness... Especially like the first 10 seconds are so incredible lmao
@emilysanders5020
@emilysanders5020 2 жыл бұрын
can't believe you reacted to orange caramel! they're iconic! I actually expected you not being so much into them even though you said you liked weird stuff and bops, but yeah they're extreme lol thanks for sharing!
@ridgeromero2633
@ridgeromero2633 2 жыл бұрын
they are a sub-unit from a very iconic girlgroup called After School. they went popular because of Catallena and they are the exact definition of "camp" concept and music
@johnsmith2875
@johnsmith2875 2 жыл бұрын
They were very popular and iconic before catallena
@ELmayberry
@ELmayberry 2 жыл бұрын
ooh... what a throwback 😍
@denisexi90
@denisexi90 2 жыл бұрын
keep the 2nd gen girl group reactions coming PLEASE! I love when you do them
@heyvkj2412
@heyvkj2412 2 жыл бұрын
LMAAOO THEY WERE MY FAVVVVV. that’s why I love red velvet so much too, both groups have such quirky weird concepts SO good
@kisa1909
@kisa1909 2 жыл бұрын
Orange Caramel is probably one of the only girl groups I watch reactions to lol. I miss their quirkiness soooo much. None of those songs are on my playlist either, but I love the group so much!
@meli_tonin
@meli_tonin 2 жыл бұрын
orange caramel was definitely that feel good group similar to crayon pop that just dished out amazing bops with random mv’s that just made sense! 🥰
@luckyxxxxk
@luckyxxxxk 2 жыл бұрын
When I tell you copycat had me in a chokehold in 2014!! I couldn’t stop doing the dance 😂
@terrydavis2887
@terrydavis2887 2 жыл бұрын
Love them! So iconic! Just watched movie with Nana…so beautiful!
@deijiko
@deijiko 2 жыл бұрын
I think Abing Abing was the first time I learned that groups did commercial songs like that and it's crazy how they become our favorites 😂 I hope you check out the Copycat videos and at least try to find the Seventeen members!
@celestisima
@celestisima 2 жыл бұрын
I love Orange Caramel 💕💕💕 Such an unique group.
@layonwhertein6569
@layonwhertein6569 2 жыл бұрын
Nana the really visual Is iconic
@jaynadiah5498
@jaynadiah5498 2 жыл бұрын
''' this is ridiculous....'' yes my friend welcome to the wonderful world of orange caramel... ridiculous but absolutely brilliant
@April_Vicious
@April_Vicious 2 жыл бұрын
YES! abing abing IS an ad for baskin robbins 31 flavors how iconic right
@naxx__sg
@naxx__sg 2 жыл бұрын
GOd they are all so iconic, everyone at some point knew all the songs with their dances specially Catallena omg
@jaynadiah5498
@jaynadiah5498 2 жыл бұрын
catellena.. the juti meri palo meera bit is actually in punjabi.... its means my shoes my sandals..... and its from a really obscure indian wedding song... this group is so random its brilliant
@professionalcarat
@professionalcarat 2 жыл бұрын
it's probably already mentioned but seventeen were in the my copycat video and there's also a live performance where they are in the crowd. very cute baby svt also if you ever seen a photo of 3 girls dressed up like christmas trees circulating on twitter every christmastime, that's orange caramel.
@odisleftpaw5663
@odisleftpaw5663 2 жыл бұрын
you are correct most of their music is heavily trot inspired which is what makes them so recognizable
@LittleBirdie98
@LittleBirdie98 2 жыл бұрын
Did you noticethat in "My Copycat" there are members of Seventeen hidden? As well as in the live performances of that song :)
@irumi1318
@irumi1318 2 жыл бұрын
Please give VIXX a chance. They are considered concept Kings since their concepts are not you would expect from a usual kpop group
@BrittanySanders1001
@BrittanySanders1001 2 жыл бұрын
Omg Yes Please!
@Dexterinette
@Dexterinette 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH AUSTIN
@Smalex123
@Smalex123 2 жыл бұрын
I successfully get through each day because Orange Caramel exists in this lifetime. WHAT A GIFT THEY ARE
@Smalex123
@Smalex123 2 жыл бұрын
and that's not even factoring in the sheer power Nana had over me and my tumblr for 7 years. Loved this video!
@fernandorivera1475
@fernandorivera1475 2 жыл бұрын
Orange Caramel song: Magic Girl A~ing Bangkok city
@moonjoy6113
@moonjoy6113 2 жыл бұрын
seventeen was in their “my copycat”mv!!
@marcossalazar8623
@marcossalazar8623 2 жыл бұрын
Raina, Lizzy and Nana, some of the top beauties of Kpop, even Nana (The one you said is gorgeous) was TC Candler's The 100 Most Beautiful faces of 2014, 2015 and the face of the 2010's decade, hope you can react to more videos of Orange Caramel like Aing, Magic Girl, Shanghai Romance, Bangkok City, The Gangnam Avenue, those are iconic songs
@ampcartoon6983
@ampcartoon6983 2 жыл бұрын
Oh! I miss them! So much fun 🥳
@midnightxgem6147
@midnightxgem6147 2 жыл бұрын
omg omg orange caramel, I miss them so much ;w;
@lightningdoughnut4880
@lightningdoughnut4880 2 жыл бұрын
OMG I LOVE ORANGE CARAMEL
@MiamiCali706
@MiamiCali706 2 жыл бұрын
They were considered strange but so was Crayon Pop and Six Bomb.
@THAIXKINGDANU
@THAIXKINGDANU 2 жыл бұрын
All song from Orange Caramel Vibes by Romanian song, music so funny 😉
@jhm2732
@jhm2732 2 жыл бұрын
the Catallena MV is very interesting actually. If I'm not wrong it was about admiring someone (the octopus lady), but since she became so full of herself she became a bad person and ended up being chosen by no one in the sushi bar. But there are also some references to female explotation in the kpop industry (put into plastic packages, sold together) and also letting go of the past (when they eat 'themselves').
@jjkss7721
@jjkss7721 2 жыл бұрын
I love nana is so beautiful and cute♡♡♡
@MsKareboo
@MsKareboo 2 жыл бұрын
Finally !!! I love them so much !!!!
@April_Vicious
@April_Vicious 2 жыл бұрын
YAAAAAAAS
@CheerUp2
@CheerUp2 2 жыл бұрын
YESSSSSSSSSS
@Alanis__
@Alanis__ 2 жыл бұрын
I love themmmm! I enjoy their lives so much! They sing live and are super stable, plus their outfits are always on point, I love their fashion! My favorites songs are Abing Abing, Aing and Shanghai love!
@IMxAxBUNNY
@IMxAxBUNNY 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow this is a throwback. WHEW. I can still remember vividly the outrage over Catallena being banned on broadcast.
@Miaostic
@Miaostic 2 жыл бұрын
i love and miss orange caramel 💔💔💔
@NyokouChannel
@NyokouChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Is this trot? 😂 Yes yes it is. Most 2nd gen groups were very much releasing modern pop music that sounded very much like trot which is why it was so popular at the time. But that's also why I was more attracted to groups like SNSD and 2NE1 who were doing music that was outside of that sound.
@JohnLee-db9zt
@JohnLee-db9zt Жыл бұрын
Abing is my favorite OC song even though it was a Baskin Robbins commercial.
@JohnLee-db9zt
@JohnLee-db9zt Жыл бұрын
The one you found gorgeous was voted the most beautiful in the world by TC Chandler.
@LeahKMT
@LeahKMT 2 жыл бұрын
Little fun fact but in My Copycat in the scenes with lots of people you can see the members of Seventeen before they debuted haha
@iamjclz
@iamjclz 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh nobody does wacky like Orange Caramel! Their performances are always fun to watch.
@GopherCakeStuff
@GopherCakeStuff 2 жыл бұрын
Nana 😍😍😍😍😍
@MyvIsLove2
@MyvIsLove2 2 жыл бұрын
I looove orange caramel so much!! literally the only girl group I ever followed
@risdafanial
@risdafanial 2 жыл бұрын
one of all time fav iconic kpop sub units
@jjeojkl
@jjeojkl 2 жыл бұрын
there were actually a lot of seventeen members & other company artists in the my copycat vid!! (far out orange scene)
@alejozr8203
@alejozr8203 2 жыл бұрын
YASSS finally
@toyland12
@toyland12 2 жыл бұрын
The musical concept of Orange Caramel was more geared toward cute J-POP rather than actual Trot. For a time the beautiful Nana was on par as a CF Queen in the same league as Yoona, Suzy and Seolhyun. She's still going strong as an actress. Raina had some success solo and was considered one of the better singers in KPOP and an OST Queen for a time but faded till she appeared on Miss Back and signed with a new agency. Lizzy got busted for a DUI accident in 2021, had her contract canceled and went to jail!
@ULTR4VIOLXNCE
@ULTR4VIOLXNCE 2 жыл бұрын
i love orange caramel ^^
@definitelyckck
@definitelyckck 2 жыл бұрын
orange caramel my giiiiirrrrllllsssss afterschool/orange caramel will always be my girls. i mean look at my profile picture lol lipstick is my favorite one miss them so much
@madao2794
@madao2794 2 жыл бұрын
LEGEND GIRL GROP
@bebelalin8029
@bebelalin8029 2 жыл бұрын
Shanghai Romance is my favourite one🥺 If you want to focus on their vocal, the song is a good choice.
@zykvalerty
@zykvalerty 2 жыл бұрын
the best sub unit in history, i said what i said. thats it.
@alejozr8203
@alejozr8203 2 жыл бұрын
btw, we need more pentagon please
@tlmolee2246
@tlmolee2246 2 жыл бұрын
오카는 한국에서는 두번다시나올수없는 독보적인 써브유닛이다ㅋㅋ진짜최고다
@IMxAxBUNNY
@IMxAxBUNNY 2 жыл бұрын
basically Catellena is about how someone can be fussy and hard to get close to (the octopus) but you kind of want to get near them anyway. There is also the undertones of being really great yourself (they are mermaids) but because no one seese your value no one wants you (they go on sale). So through the video every one chooses the more expensive and more popular options (also talking about other kpop groups) and when the girls come in the only thing left is the cheap stuff - but they eat it and its good and they can feel how great those sea ceratures were even though no one wanted them. The lyrics talk about a girl who can see how everyone loves this other chic girl so much, and they want to be like that but they have to work doubly hard just to get a pat on the back. "I don’t like her because she’s so chic But even as a girl, I can see she’s so attractive I’m angry but I want to dance for an hour, two hours I want to play down to my very last bone Lalala shake, shake it, wave your hand Scream until you lose your voice (Jutti Meri Oye Hoi Hoi Paula Mera Oye Hoi Hoi) Not good enough, have some more strength"
@gerardcote8391
@gerardcote8391 2 жыл бұрын
Note Abing Abing was a video based on Baskin Robbins was a sponsor of the band snd they rolled out s new flavor of zice Cream and this video was a promotion for that flavor. I think many of the people in these videos were famous. Well famous in Korea at least. They were fairly big and lots of people wanted to be in their videos. Too bad you didn't do Magic Girl ir was their first big hit.
@bwcenter95
@bwcenter95 2 жыл бұрын
1 word to describe Orange Caramel is ridiculous, but in a good way 🙂
@karenshig5052
@karenshig5052 2 жыл бұрын
The music in lipstick:💃💃💃 The lyrics:🚩🚩🚩🚩 Anyway, orange caramel being superior 💕💕💕
@LyndseyKeatts
@LyndseyKeatts 2 жыл бұрын
Hong Jin Young would be a great artist for you to check out Trot music. Her most popular song is Love Battery
@showsomedignaty
@showsomedignaty 2 жыл бұрын
Aing Aing is very iconic , lots of idols did covers to that song
@RafkaMumuk-nz5mx
@RafkaMumuk-nz5mx Ай бұрын
Please more funny honey, shanghai romance and bangkok city
@lottieisfashion
@lottieisfashion 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact you can play an extra game and try and find svt in my copycat
@fiscaazmi7586
@fiscaazmi7586 2 жыл бұрын
LOL predebut seventeen was there in the crowd scenes of my copycat mv
@serenity8739
@serenity8739 2 жыл бұрын
Still my favourite girl group of all time, I miss them so much! But at least I can still watch Nana in dramas 😍
@soneselenator3014
@soneselenator3014 2 жыл бұрын
PLS do more after school and orange caramel they eattt
@StanMiihii
@StanMiihii 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE catallena
@oliverhughes610
@oliverhughes610 2 жыл бұрын
Forever iconic. The only time a subunit ended up bigger than the main group. Catallena is a commentary on how the industy/society treats women as commodities to be bought and sold, almost, especially when it comes to marriage. The chorus of the song samples a traditional wedding song Jutti Meri Jandiye from Punjab - to which they are saying 'no no no' to, rejecting the idea that women can be enticed to marriage through materialism. And no, it isn't trot. Trotty, perhaps, but not trot. If you want to hear some actual trot check out something like Young Tak's Jjiniya, Hong Jin Young's Love Battery or Im Chang Jung's I Hate Trot.
@oldkpophag2785
@oldkpophag2785 2 жыл бұрын
Ooooh i love orange caramel songs And i prefer their older songs more like magic girls, aing, Bangkok city and shanghai romance 😍😍😍
@anthonypike5588
@anthonypike5588 2 жыл бұрын
Please react to more of them
@carolinaperdomo7112
@carolinaperdomo7112 2 жыл бұрын
You should definitely look into catallena's lyrics
@Estonian4life
@Estonian4life 2 жыл бұрын
I would have maybe replaced My Copycat or Abing Abing with "Bangkok City", because that was their most popular and best-charting song.
@diosokim2927
@diosokim2927 2 жыл бұрын
You should also react to their song Aing.
@msuarz6666
@msuarz6666 2 жыл бұрын
nana visual of the century iktr
@le0xx
@le0xx 2 жыл бұрын
If you look closely, you can see pre-debut seventeen in my copycat 😁
@luvticons
@luvticons 2 жыл бұрын
please react to their dance practices or live performances of catallena. they are so iconic.
@mohamadazharsia_carat7214
@mohamadazharsia_carat7214 2 жыл бұрын
Literally,especially the ahh part
@madao2794
@madao2794 2 жыл бұрын
For catallena the girls in the end regret changing bc they're not theur true self, notice their clothes look like the octopus lady (popular one)
@PurpleSpirit38
@PurpleSpirit38 2 жыл бұрын
seventeen pre-debut days in "My Copycat" MV lolololol
@naxx__sg
@naxx__sg 2 жыл бұрын
new challenge: have sir find pre debut seventeen in the copycat music video kjashdkjas
@soneselenator3014
@soneselenator3014 2 жыл бұрын
This is what I imagine a sunny , yoona and Jessica unit would sound like if it happened 😭
@bwcenter95
@bwcenter95 2 жыл бұрын
Abing Abing is a CF song, collaboration with Baskin Robbins.
@jjkss7721
@jjkss7721 2 жыл бұрын
Pls more miss A and suzy mv💗💗💗💗💗
@TheHekateris
@TheHekateris 2 жыл бұрын
Orange Caramel!!! I miss them... Fun fact, I made a random friend into a kpop stan with the shriek compilation video of Catallena 😆 Within a week she was Army...so weird lol ETA: Not Trot! Trot remains the most popular form of pop music in Korea. Shawols are all waiting fornthe day Onew puts out that Trot album lol. Two trot songs by idols include Onew + Luna's duet 'Because I'm a girl' amd Daesung's 'Look at me Gwisoon', which was written by GD. Both are hilarious.
@user-gv3zx7ju7w
@user-gv3zx7ju7w Ай бұрын
그녀들은 당시 파격적인 시도를 했고, 처음에는 일부 팬이 있었으나 My Copycat을 마지막으로 활동을 중지했다. 약10년의 시간이 지나 유튜브가 유행하면서 그녀들의 영상이 다시 조명되고 있다. 시대를 너무 앞서간 아쉬운 그룹이다.
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