My 2nd Tier List Of 20+ Telescopic Game Controllers Showdown! (Late 2024)

[@dotnetapp]

Controller List: with rating. [ROG Tessen 110$ 4:19] Sticks: 5 D-Pad: 3 Ergo: 3 Features: 3 Value: 1 USB: Right Average: 3 Average without Value: 3.5 [GameSir X2s 46$ 6:41] Sticks: 3 D-Pad: 2 Ergo: 3 Features: 2 Value: 3 USB: - Average: 2.6 Average without Value: 2.5 [Abyxlute S9 89$ 8:24] Sticks: 4 D-Pad: 5 Ergo: 4 Features: 5 Value: 4 USB: right Average: 4.4 Average without Value: 4.5 [EasySMX M10 50$ 10:03] Sticks: 3 D-Pad: 3 Ergo: 3 Features: 4 Value: 3 USB: right Average: 3.2 Average without Value: 3.25 [GameSir X2 Pro 60$ 11:31] Sticks: 3 D-Pad: 2 Ergo: 3 Features: 2 Value: 2 USB: right Average: 2.4 Average without Value: 2.5 [GameSir X2s 46$ 13:31] Sticks: 4 D-Pad: 2 Ergo: 3 Features: 4 Value: 4 USB: left Average: 3.4 Average without Value: 3.25 [BSP D10s 48$ 15:33] Sticks: 2 D-Pad: 3 Ergo: 4 Features: 5 Value: 4 USB: - Average: 3.6 Average without Value: 3.5 [GameSir G8 80$ 17:34] Sticks: 4 D-Pad: 3 Ergo: 4 Features: 3 Value: 4 USB: right Average: 3.6 Average without Value: 3.5 [BackBone Gen 1 100$ 18:45] Sticks: 2 D-Pad: 3 Ergo: 3 Features: 3 Value: 2 USB: right Average: 2.6 Average without Value: 2.75 [EasySMX M05 38$ 21:57] Sticks: 4 D-Pad: 4 Ergo: 4 Features: 4 Value: 5 USB: right Average: 4.2 Average without Value: 4 [JK02 20$ 24:00] Sticks: 3 D-Pad: 3 Ergo: 4 Features: 5 Value: 5 USB: right Average: 4 Average without Value: 3.75 [BSP D8 Pro 35$ 27:44] Sticks: 3 D-Pad: 5 Ergo: 4 Features: 5 Value: 5 USB: - Average: 4.4 Average without Value: 4.25 [Razer Kishi Ultra 150$ 29:53] Sticks: 5 D-Pad: 4 Ergo: 4 Features: 3 Value: 1 USB: right Average: 3.4 Average without Value: 4 [BSP D9 41$ 31:32] Sticks: 2 D-Pad: 2 Ergo: 5 Features: 5 Value: 4 USB: - Average: 3.6 Average without Value: 3.5 [GameSir X3 Pro 41$ 33:35] Sticks: 3 D-Pad: 4 Ergo: 4 Features: 4 Value: 3 USB: right Average: 3.6 Average without Value: 3.75 [GameSir G8+ 80$ 38:27] Sticks: 4 D-Pad: 3 Ergo: 4 Features: 5 Value: 5 USB: - Average: 4.2 Average without Value: 4 [EasySMX M15 60$ 43:00] Sticks: 4 D-Pad: 4 Ergo: 4 Features: 4 Value: 4 USB: right Average: 4 Average without Value: 4 [Memo S3 Tablet 41$ 44:37] Sticks: 4 D-Pad: 4 Ergo: 4 Features: 5 Value: 5 USB: right Average: 4.4 Average without Value: 4.2 [Scuf Nomad 100$ 46:28] Sticks: 5 D-Pad: 3 Ergo: 4 Features: 3 Value: 2 USB: - Average: 3.4 Average without Value: 3.75 [GameSir X2 ?$ 49:00] Sticks: 2 D-Pad: 2 Ergo: 3 Features: 2 Value: 1 USB: left Average: 2 Average without Value: 2.25 [GameSir X4 Aileron ?$ 53:01] Sticks: 4 D-Pad: 4 Ergo: 3 Features: 4 Value: 3 USB: - Average: 3.6 Average without Value: 3.75 [GamWing AoBing Max 45$ 54:39] Sticks: 4 D-Pad: 3 Ergo: 4 Features: 5 Value: 4 USB: right Average: 4 Average without Value: 4

[@GameTechTalk]

That is phenomenal work! I'm sure future viewers will appreciate, thanks!

[@dotnetapp]

@@GameTechTalk wow nice that you answered even though its an "old" vid

[@dotnetapp]

[Best Sticks] (5) ROG Tessen (avg: 3.0) - $110 Razer Kishi Ultra (avg: 3.4) - $150 Scuf Nomad (avg: 3.4) - $100 [Best D-Pad] (5) Abyxlute S9 (avg: 4.4) - $89 BSP D8 Pro (avg: 4.4) - $35 [Best Ergonomics] (5) BSP D9 (avg: 3.6) - $41 [Best Features] (5) BSP D8 Pro (avg: 4.4) - $35 Memo S3 Tablet (avg: 4.4) - $41 Abyxlute S9 (avg: 4.4) - $89 GameSir G8+ (avg: 4.2) - $80 GamWing AoBing Max (avg: 4.0) - $45 JK02 (avg: 4.0) - $20 BSP D10s (avg: 3.6) - $48 BSP D9 (avg: 3.6) - $41 [Best Value Rating] (5) BSP D8 Pro (avg: 4.4) - $35 Memo S3 Tablet (avg: 4.4) - $41 GameSir G8+ (avg: 4.2) - $80 JK02 (avg: 4.0) - $20 EasySMX M05 (avg: 4.2) - $38 [Best Overall Average] (4.4) Abyxlute S9 (avg: 4.4) - $89 BSP D8 Pro (avg: 4.4) - $35 Memo S3 Tablet (avg: 4.4) - $41 [Best Average Without Value] (4.5) Abyxlute S9 (avg: 4.4) - $89

[@tuananhphuong5612]

Thanks about this, save me ton of time 👍🏼

[@dotnetapp]

@@tuananhphuong5612 thats why i made it :)

[@Jampper]

Because of your vids of the Abxylute S9. I ordered one from the kickstarter. Can't wait to have it. Thanks for covering it!

[@GameTechTalk]

You have no idea how happy that makes me to know I can help people with my videos. Funny enough, I struggle in my day-to-day to make decisions sometimes so I know how much having data and feedback can help, to know I can do that for others brings a great deal of joy to me. Thanks for sharing!

[@batpixi_]

​@GameTechTalk I missed thr kickstarter but still ordered the abxylute as well thanks to your video and used your link.

[@humblemudgames]

This is SUCH a good video, and watching it, I realized I don't get notified about your content enough. Hit that bell right away!

[@GameTechTalk]

Thank you so much Humblemud! I greatly appreciate 😊 I can say the same about you, been adding to my wishlist, thanks to your wonderful recommendations. I'll be picking up Decline's Drops very soon in fact! The way you showcased the parallel to Smash Bros totally convinced me!

[@danielalexander9418]

Man I so happy, I ordered the gamesir x3 pro and I was thinking if it was a good idea, but you made me more secure of my decision, thanks man!

[@GameTechTalk]

I understand some of the disappointments people may have but the more I've been using it, the more GameSir's direction make sense. And with that hidden wireless mode, it's actually having that newfound appeal for me. I still haven't successfully managed to pair it but hopefully, GameSir hid a button combination to kick it because this thing definitely has that mode, the question is how to pair it with the dongle now!

[@DamonteJB]

I got the x2s Bluetooth from watching your videos and I love it. Never had a problem with lag while playing path of titans. Ended up getting it on sale for $40. It’s perfect

[@GameTechTalk]

Glad that you did and thanks for your trust! I did not experience lag as well, more like some other controllers feel "snappier" though never to the point that the X2s BT feels like I can't keep up with the response time. Thankfully! That would've been terrible. 😅 Cheers!

[@acanthoscurriageniculata7141]

Have you tried it with streaming of any kind? Like xCloud, Steam Link etc. How is it?

[@DamonteJB]

@@acanthoscurriageniculata7141 I have not unfortunately

[@DamonteJB]

@@GameTechTalk I got the g8+ a couple days ago, yeah I was wrong the g8plus is perfect😂😂😂😂

[@GameTechTalk]

@@DamonteJB Welcome to the upgrade friend and wishing you a lot of happy gaming!

[@ThomasTheTankEngine22]

The only reason why backbone got popular was because of how locked down iOS was. It was essentially the only option. And it had the software polish you'd expect from a iPhone associated product. Apple users are allergic to choice so it was the perfect storm

[@GameTechTalk]

😂😂😂 "Apple users are allergic to choice so it was the perfect storm" Lil' bro is out there cooking, let 'em cook I say! You are 💯 correct friend, the Backbone on Apple at the time that it started out was definitely a massive launching pad. Plus, it got featured by Apple themselves quite a few times when they were showcasing gaming on their iPhones!

[@tacobo]

Confident Swagger Mojo. I watched the 1st tier video and then this one. You went from noob to pro reviewer in 6 months. Keep up the good work man! I had to double check it was the same channel.

[@GameTechTalk]

I'm a forever student, learning one video at a time, thanks for seeing the evolution.

[@cppctek]

Great video man. I learned a lot. Love seeing controller experts break down a bunch of controllers in one videos. This slaps. ❤

[@GameTechTalk]

Thank you friend! No small feat to be deemed an expert by you, you are one yourself in many ways that I could never!

[@emregungor7]

Firstly, this is "the" list and your work on telescopic controllers is the best in KZbin. I want to ask, for bluetooth controllers. How long can a phone go before charging it when it is connected with bluetooth. I will decide according to that info to buy a controller with a bluetooth or only usb-c connection.

[@GameTechTalk]

Way to boost my ego!! Thank you so very much for the kind words wow! It would heavily depend on the game but I would say most modern flagship phones would be able to give you at least 5 hours on a full charge and with a healthy battery, and if not more. And that's when playing "more demanding" games on the App Store / Play Store, there are probably a few exceptions out there like say RE Village on iPhones but if we're talking proper "mobile" games, it'd be a safe bet. On less demanding games, it can be much much more! Edit: I should also add that phones usually have a much better "fast charging" solution than most so you can also get 50% within 15-30mins of charging on most flagships for another 2-3 hours of gaming.

[@emregungor7]

@@GameTechTalk Thank you very much for the detailed answer.

[@MamatEsCampur]

your channel so underrated bro, ill always watching your channel for information about gamepad mobile, keep going bro!!

[@GameTechTalk]

Thanks, I'm glad you like the content, my main focus is always to provide information and entertainment, so I'm happy it's hitting the mark!

[@_rage_quitter_11]

A great great banger of a video with short notes of pros and cons about each one, man it was really enjoyable. But is it enough to satisfy me? Nahh. Keep bringing more of the good stuff Klef.

[@GameTechTalk]

Ahahaha! My favorite comment so far. No lie, I love to take on a challenge. Duly noted my guy, I'll keep 'em coming, thanks for the kind words!

[@rodsimpson518]

I ended up buying the Lenevo Y700 tablet and the Memo S3 controller for my next gaming handheld. Look forward to receiving them.

[@GameTechTalk]

I want a Lenovo Y700 so bad but I'm holding off for now. You're about to have a lot of fun, happy gaming!

[@naruhearts1]

Let me know if that controller works with the tablet. The G8 Galileo (USB-C) does not because the connection doesnt put out enough power. I just ordered an Absxlute S9 since it works with it. But would be interested to know if this one works as well.

[@humblemudgames]

I actually finally dug through some of my brother's things recently that were sitting around and found an old 2019 tablet he barely used that's strong enough to run Dreamcast, so this video came at a good time for me.

[@GameTechTalk]

That's awesome! Not gonna lie, a part of me hopes you might find some save games in there? 🥹 Cheers bud!

[@AXL398]

This was such a great video. I'm really happy that you're doing another one of these in a few months. I really appreciate you bugging Gamesir about a G8 with a cooler. xD The more time passes and more products come out, the longer my list of demands gets for a perfect telescopic controller and the more excited I get to see what they come up with next. Your enthusiasm definitely rubbed off on me and I'll see you in your next video. :D

[@GameTechTalk]

Ahh that's such a nice comment! And rest assured, I'll keep dropping the hints! 🤣

[@MinKiu410]

Ive got my hands on the G8 recently. I gotta say that its a slight bump in experience from the previous controllers. Now I wanna try the Abxylute so bad

[@GameTechTalk]

Hey MinKiu410 ! You've been on a controller journey, I love that for you!! So from what I understand, the G8 is your top now? What would you say is your second in line?

[@AishTalksTech]

Great video dude very thorough and easy to listen to

[@GameTechTalk]

Thanks Aish, glad to hear as such. That was the idea with this one, the kind of video you leave on a screen while making dinner and glance from time to time.

[@Autotrope]

Great channel, great technical analysis, but I have a request for future tier lists, can you put not just a picture of the device in the tier list but a label of what it is, an/or just put a text version of the tier list in the description or pinned comment. This is because I don't know what product they are from the image of them. Also you didn't mention a tier for G8 plus (or i didnt listen hard enough) but I assumed from what you were saying it was S. Thanks again for the video.

[@GameTechTalk]

Thank you for the kind words. Do you mean like what we seen at 56:54 ? I also assume you meant G8 Plus, that would be S indeed. Cheers and thanks again!

[@Autotrope]

Oh thanks for that, I did not see that! 🤭 Yes that is what I meant. Carry on

[@goobatroopa_]

The BSP-D9 looks awesome. This video came out at the perfect time for me. I've been trying to find a quality handheld experience with the Switch. Mobapad m6 HD's cramp my hands. NYXI Hyperion Pro's fit nicely and I love the stick caps but the controller randomly disconnects too often. Every telescopic controller i saw before this video has the right joystick positioned in a way that's just as silly and unergonomic as the original joycons. The BSP-D8 right stick looks more to the left than center and the D9 looks like the dream for ergonomics and heavy use of the right stick. Thank you so much.

[@GameTechTalk]

Oh man, sorry to hear about the M6-HDs! Yeah the ergonomic of the D9 is definitely it's strongest aspect and easily a top 3 "ergonomics" leader in the entire line up of products I talked about in this video.

[@比卡超-g5w]

@@GameTechTalk hi, which are the other 2 on the top 3?

[@GameTechTalk]

@@比卡超-g5w 56:54

[@tony_tran]

Great list, some interesting thoughts on some controllers im interested in getting. Just a quick note i thibk the image you have for the d8 pro is actually the nornal d8 :)

[@GameTechTalk]

Argghh!! I keep making mistakes with that controller! 😅 Pretty sure I did one in the previous tier list too. Thanks for pointing it out and for the kind words too! :)

[@friedchickenthug]

Got two G8s (one modded for the S9 Ultra tabelt--you are right it is the BIDNESSSZ; one modded for my Pixel Phone with a case). I'm looking foreard to the G8+ for vertical shooters on S9 Ultra. Awesome video man thanks for sharing the love on gaming on tablets and phones.

[@GameTechTalk]

Ahh that comment brings me joy. And thanks for clicking and watching the video gamer friend! Cheers

[@BryanCZ]

I have the Gamesir g8 plus, but honestly, in my preference, my fav is the Aileron x4! 😁✌️

[@GameTechTalk]

Two great controllers for sure!

[@BryanCZ]

@GameTechTalk Mainly because using the Aileron, I can attach almost any type of cooling fan directly to the phone 😁👌.

[@ramadhanisantoso2973]

Thanks for putting value as one of the criteria. Now we see that higher price doesn't automatically translate to best experience. Maybe the build quality is top notch, but if I can't enjoy using them, I'm not sure that's a good buy for me. On the flip side, cheap controllers might be the best solution since I commute everyday. If it breaks/lost, at least it's only the controller and not my wallet lol. Maybe I'd buy the premium one to use at home, and buy some BSPs for gaming sessions on train/ bus, that seems a good plan.

[@GameTechTalk]

I think that is a great idea. To paraphrase, you have people that always take the same sandwich at McDonald's, then you have the ones that like to alternate from time to time, try the limited edition items. Nothing wrong with being happy with what you like, I believe that I always get closer to knowing what I like by allowing myself to diversify. The solution you mentioned by having a premium and BSPs for your commute is an opportunity to do exactly that, diversify. By doing so, you'll have a better grasp of what you definitely prefer down the road, at least that's how I think! Cheers :)

[@lloyd.lemoncito]

Kudos, Sir Klef! Great tier list as always. I would like to add that the G8+ can be deemed S+ in countries like the Philippines where it can be purchased with the dongle at around 47 usd (other Filipinos might be here too and this might help them).

[@GameTechTalk]

GEEZUS!!!!! 47USD WITH the dongle?!?! Smh, I'm a bit jealous, I'd jump on the recolors in a heartbeat at that price. Thanks for sharing, hopefully that can help people as you mentioned! 😊

[@TheKhaleel97]

Very useful video! Thank you

[@GameTechTalk]

Glad it was helpful, cheers!

[@AthifAmrulladien]

Nice video. The amount of effort you put to make this video should be intensely high... wonder which one works best for playing PUBG mobile on Galaxy S24 ultra?

[@GameTechTalk]

Yeah those videos are extremely time consuming but it does help that the data is captured from being an enthusiast in the market space, and reviewing all those other products

[@HuyLý-g7d]

Can you tell me Memo S3 and GameSir 8G Plus Which is better than none?

[@GameTechTalk]

GameSir G8 Plus as far as I am concerned but the Memo S3 is a pretty solid choice for the price. If price is the most important go Memo S3, if you want the best regardless of price, go G8+.

[@MarcoCorvoo]

thanks to this channel I'm waiting for my first telescopic controller to arrive (bsp d10s for 35) You are the N1 youtuber dedicated to controller!

[@GameTechTalk]

Wow I greatly appreciate that, thank you! Let me know how much fun you're having once you get it if you have the chance, cheers!

[@nadavpeled7562]

Hey man, the truth is I almost never comment on videos, mostly because it’s not easy for me to write in English (it’s my second language and it’s very different from my first) and also because I usually just don’t . But this time I felt I had to. For the past few weeks, I’ve been thinking about buying a gamepad, and I let that idea simmer. Last week, I decided to go for it and started researching. I have to say you’ve really helped me understand the field and what’s best for me. I truly appreciate it. I can’t explain it exactly , but watching you makes it clear you’re a good person. Tomorrow, I’ll finally place my order! I’m going to get the BSP D9 because I’m used to the shape of the PlayStation controller, and it’s the most comfortable for me. I also loved the fact that the joystick, buttons, and gamepad are at a 45-degree angle, unlike almost all the other options, which I find just underneath, there was more considerations in order to choose that one but they aren't exclusive to this option its just that option has them also, anyway I believe that difference will make for a better experience for me. You’ve exposed me to the field so much that I’m already considering future options. If I buy another one, it will probably be the Galileo G8+ or something similar. But there’s still time for that. Anyway, thank you so much, and I’ll keep following you. I’m already eager for more content! :)

[@GameTechTalk]

"but watching you makes it clear you’re a good person" My guy, you're going to make me tear up. Your message is so touching to me, you are the embodiment of what I hope to provide to people, thank you so very much for taking the moment to write me this beautiful comment, really! I'm glad you found the product that will serve your needs, and glad to have been an ally in your decision-making. I think you have the best approach, start with something affordable, that scratches many boxes, get acquainted with the "sport" and you know what? If things continue the way they have, the G8+ will be surpassed in a year's time, maybe even 6 months, who's to say. I'll be there then to share with you the latest and greatest options! :) I hope to continue to help you determine what your gaming needs are in the future. Cheers!

[@jasonmxx]

feature wishlist for future releases: - telescopic/traditional length hybrid - retractable usb c output (for less latency for mobile and switch compatibility) - mechanical face buttons (just because i havent tried this one yet lol) but first, let me find myself a game to play.

[@GameTechTalk]

I think those are great wishlists and though the third already exists in telescopic controllers, the first two I'd happily get behind, with the third being part of.

[@aldebaran514.]

I went with the S9 because of your videos 😂 i was hesitating with the G8 + but i think the S9 gives you a bit more for your money in term of features and i like that we can buy new plates and new sticks/pads thru their website as well. And the S9 also has bluetooth connection so we're still able to play games like cod mobile.

[@GameTechTalk]

Thanks for your trust! The G8+ and S9 is an incredibly difficult debate to have because really, there is such a fine line that defines which I would say I prefer and quite frankly, I might have different answers on different days but it all boils down to how one does most of their gaming. If you are tethered to your phone/tablet, then it's a no brainer, the S9 it is. Lately, I've been finding myself doing a mix of tethered and untethered a lot and that's where the G8+ takes the lead for me. Either way, they both are phenomenal options and Abxylute also has a fantastic software solution, which leads me to believe they are laying down a foundation from which to build from. Such a brilliant solution already as it is, I'm already excited for what the future might bring!

[@aldebaran514.]

@@GameTechTalk oh yeah both devices have their own pros definitely. If i was a huge switch gamer maybe i would've consider the G8+ more but for the most part i always end up playing with the switch docked so. Either way it is nice to see how far the tech as gone with these devices. Keep up the great content btw 🤙

[@Irving_alexis011]

Yeeeeeeeeeees!!! This is the video i was waiting for!

[@GameTechTalk]

Ahhhh!! I am soooo happy to release that one!! I know it helps a lot of people decide what to go for so I hope this gets shared to as many viewers as possible. Thanks for all your support!!

[@Falsh125]

I was trying to put together a 13-inch display, a telescopic controller, wireless HDMI, and my desktop PC to create a short range, ultra powerful handheld. Hoping that this is the video I need to find my right telescopic controller. ❤

[@GameTechTalk]

Ouf, that sounds like an amazingly good time! And light with battery life up the wazoo too since it won’t need to power a chip locally. Let me know how it turns out!

[@Falsh125]

@@GameTechTalk Ah if only! There's the monitor's battery life to consider still. I am not sure how long the 10,000mah one I am currently eying will last while gaming. Will let you know for sure.

[@red_mind8567]

Congrats, this was a very thorough and entertaining video. Subbed :) I recently bought my first telescopic controller, a used Kishi V1 for 32.5€. Seeing your two lists, now that sounds like a massive mistake. I'm considering the M15/Memo S3. Would that be a considerable upgrade in terms of Dpad, and joystick quality? Also, how inferior is the M15/Memo S3 to the Galilleo 8+?

[@GameTechTalk]

Not a mistake, the Kishi v1 was great and should've been what Razer built from rather than changing their design completely. That said, I'd say the M15 is an upgrade on every aspect, including sticks and d-pad. As for M15 vs G8+, inferior might even sound too harsh, it's more that the quality is obviously not on-par, like build quality that is, but it's not to say that M15 feels cheap, it's pretty good, moreso that the G8+ feels a cut above.

[@ChantelMcclure-c9c]

That's real what u said about the x2s Bluetooth I wanted another controller ASAP

[@GameTechTalk]

It's a fun controller but not a "my everything" controller. At least I don't believe so, and it seems you felt the same!

[@miguelorozco4445]

I bought Easysmx M05 on Temu for only ($600 MXN pesos) $29/30 US dollars since September and I have been loving it since then. I dont think I can change it for another controller. (Maybe M10 cuz its almost in the same prize as the M05 on Temu. The G8+ is too expensive and not as prize/quality as those two. But this one is the third option.

[@GameTechTalk]

The M05 is a fantastic controller, way better than M10 to be honest. Dont let FOMO set in friend, you made a great choice. If ever you get a second one, save for the G8+ or get the M15. Much better options than M10. Cheers and happy gaming!

[@PipsterSays]

I really like the GS Galli G8+ but man I wish the thumbsticks had a little more tension or a way to adjust the tension....They feel a bit loosey goosey sometimes lol or maybe a way to adjust the curve via software, that'd be sweet!

[@GameTechTalk]

That sure would be nice to see this feature in telescopic controllers. Hopefully over time! Would be a great reason for Flydigi to re-enter the space!

[@mister-_-muda7756]

Good morning bro Great tier list although I wish you would have gone into more detail stick wise So which one do you recommend the most for heavy aim focused games for example apex legends on GeForce?

[@GameTechTalk]

The Telescopic market is not as "stick forward" as standalone controllers unfortunately, and I don't understand why. That said, the M05, the M15, the G8s and Abxylute S9 are pretty decent but I'd probably give the advantage to the Razer Kishi Ultra and ELO Vagabond. The Kishi Ultra does have ALPS though so the risk of drift exists, whereas the Vagabond has a pretty robust hall-effect solution, which is pretty impressive for first-timers in the space.

[@lyichi]

Thanks for this tierlist, it's very informative and helpful! Can I just suggest you keep the name, stats and price of thing you're discussing throughout the length of you talking about it so that viewers don't have to navigate to the start of each section to get that info. Keep up the awesome work!

[@GameTechTalk]

That's a good input, I could make them fully visible and keep them slightly translucent after the fact. That's a great suggestion, thank you!

[@jojomortal]

Could you answer some questions for me? Does the Gamesir X3 Pro connect to an iPhone 16 Pro Max with a case? It would be good if you addressed this issue in your videos, which of them support the device using a case. Is there any possibility of pairing this controller via Bluetooth on iOS? And about the cooler, how many degrees does it lower the temperature of the cell phone?

[@GameTechTalk]

This video is designed as a "quick feedback", I have a hands-on and full review video on the X3 Pro where I address the exact concern that you had. In the meantime, I am happy to confirm the information you are looking for, the X3 Pro will not work nicely with a case, as in the connector is not long enough for a stable connection, let alone one at all. If you prefer to not remove your phone from your case, which I totally understand, I would advise against the X3 Pro as this will be a problem guaranteed. Your two other questions are also answered in the videos I made of this device. Cheers!

[@jojomortal]

@@GameTechTalk I watched all your videos from the X3 Pro, the thing is that I'm Brazilian and I can't understand the English in the video very well, so I asked the question, is there a UBS C to UBS C extender? About Bluetooth, it doesn't work on iOS in any way?

[@GameTechTalk]

@@jojomortal Sadly, there are no extenders, maybe someone could come up with a system but that would be in the DIY territory. The Bluetooth won't work no. Not to play games, just to change the settings of the controller. Cheers and thanks for watching!

[@jojomortal]

@@GameTechTalk Please answer a big question for me, only you can answer this question because you are the only one who knows these controls. Could you test if it is possible to mirror the iPhone screen and use this Gamesir X3 Pro controller at the same time using only the USB input of the controller?

[@throwaway-o3m]

It would be amazing if you could add portability to your ratings. The Abxylute and G8+ are incredible controllers, but I can't easily throw them in a large jacket pocket when I want to go somewhere without a bag. I bet that's one of the reasons Backbone continues to sell so well. Do you have a small form factor controller recommendation for iOS?

[@GameTechTalk]

That's a great suggestion, I'm taking note of it, thank you! For small form-factor, the EasySMX M05 is probably my top currently with the JK02 having some appeal as well.

[@throwaway-o3m]

@@GameTechTalk Thanks for replying! I tried it out but it didn't work great with a case. I ended up going for the Gamesir X4 Aileron, which is a little wobbly in a case but compacts way more than other iPhone controllers. I guess I'm in that subset you talked about!

[@lopezhaji]

Thanks for this i was planning to buy BSP D8(non Pro) for $20 until i watched your review on Gamwing which surprisingly priced the same with the D8 at $20 ($30 without vouchers) on my Country(PH)

[@GameTechTalk]

I am happy to have been of assistance! Happy Gaming and Happy New Year!

[@nickpapas_sa]

Thank you for the amazing content bro! Been glued to your channel🔥 I am stuck at the moment though, I would love a G8 but its out of my budget - so I have been looking at 3 models that are available here in South Africa and need desperate help picking one lol. The EasySMX M05, the easySMX M15 & the Aobing Max. I can get the aobing max and M05 for the same price - then the M15 is about a third of the price more. I like the idea of having a deck style controller like the M05 for my phone but idk if getting a traditional style will be better. Alternatively, is it better to save up longer to get the G8+?

[@GameTechTalk]

Ahh thanks for the kind words! Personally, I'd say the M15 is worth holding for. In order of preference: G8+ > M15 > M05 > AoBing . The one thing that could make the AoBing take more space for you is the 3.5mm but you sacrifice rumble in the mix. Also when talking rumble, the M05 has shown to not have as great compatibility as the M15, don't know why. Ultimately, the M15 is a superior experience, especially if you play first-person shooter games. It can also poll higher and while it may not have as many options as the G8+, it's still extremely close for what it does, the G8+ just ultimately does more. If you have no intentions of plucking the controller on a tablet, the M15 is putting you very close without charging you the uplift in price. I hope this helps, cheers!

[@Day100]

I want good, portable vertical telescopic controllers to exist.

[@GameTechTalk]

There is somewhat of a solution I've seen at CES but it is more of a "snap on your phone" than it is a "vertical controller". Nonetheless, very interesting to see!

[@fdurdenc]

I can’t make a decision between the abxylute s9 and the gamesir g8 plus. On one hand the S9 checks a lot of boxes, I don’t need to charge it, has passthrough charging and has a great app from what I’ve heard. I am however, worried about the usb connection failing like in the g8 Galileo. The g8 plus is appealing because it’s cheaper, there is no usb c so no potential hardware failure there, but the trade off I assume is latency even though people claim there is none. I heard the app isn’t that great in comparison to the abxylute and it’s another device I’ll have to charge which kind of sucks in my opinion. I’ll be using whichever I choose exclusively for ps remote play and occasional mobile gaming on an iPhone 16 pro. Which controller is best for PlayStation remote play or pxplay, and which will handle the camera bump of the iPhone 16pro better with a slim case?

[@maxxestevez3790]

Long form format going 🤙 to get a lot of details

[@GameTechTalk]

🫡 You know!

[@Haaz66]

Awesome videos, they have helped me so much to learn about those controllers. As of today, between the Memo S3 and the BSP-D8 Pro which one do you think would be better? I want to buy a solid product that will last and will work as my mobile and my PC controller.

[@GameTechTalk]

From an overall quality perspective, the Memo S3 would win. From a convenience PoV, the BSP D8 Pro would be better at being versatile between being a controller for multiple devices back and forth. To me, it sounds like the BSP D8 Pro is the one that’ll get you the furthest.

[@Haaz66]

@GameTechTalk wow that sounds like the last info I needed to choose. Thanks so much for replying to me and soooo fast. Subscribed, liked and notifications on immediately. Really awesome work and wish you a great new year!!!

[@GameTechTalk]

@ Ahhh!!! Well my pleasure really, welcome to the channel and I hope to continue to deliver valuable content toward your gaming tech ventures! :)

[@Haaz66]

@@GameTechTalk definitely thank you so much!!!!!

[@EnzoMontecchi]

For me it is just more pretty to se the sony symbols on the controllers 😁

[@GameTechTalk]

I hear you, I wish I was one of those crafty people, if I was, I'd cover those buttons in clear epoxy to have a gorgeous glossy finish!

[@prswjy]

Hey, i'm wondering where is BSP D8 gonna be placed in this new tier list? I rarely play games on my phone so i don't know if BSP D8 is enough or should i just buy the D8 Pro

[@GameTechTalk]

I never owned the BSP D8 but from what I know of it, it's close enough that you can expect a very similar experience. The D8 Pro from souvenir stretches a bit wider and has swappable D-pad, 2 extra buttons and gyro over the D8, that's about it.

[@skreeog]

Ehi, nice video. I have many of these controllers, but i must "contest" you on something you said. I have the scuf controller paired with my iphone, i have put it in a drawer for *several* weeks, because i was using the G8+ (which is better, but more cumbersome), but the battery is still about 80%, not dead at all, not even close.

[@GameTechTalk]

Please contest to your heart's content! That means mine is definitely defective and I have grounds to reach out to Scuf, thank you very much for your comment cause this is a serious problem and it's been from day one, been charged no more than half a dozen times. Again, thanks a lot!

[@skreeog]

@@GameTechTalk Yeah, of course! I hope i have not presented myself in a negative way, i was trying to be helpful, i enjoy your content a lot, it simply was something i noticed. And i do hope they change it, because if yourse discharges so fast on its own its absolutely defective. I never noticed that behaviour even when i purchased it, and i kept updating it with the scuf software, it never behaved that way, so perhaps yes, yours is faulty and deserve a replacement, especially because it's not a cheap controller.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@skreeog No no not at all! As I said in the video, I'm a giver, I drop long comments ahahaha! You genuinely helped me, I thought it was weird but it's not unlike something I had never seen but if yours don't do that and mine does, it means there's something abnormal. Don't worry friend, I'm not bitter like that ahahahh!

[@luongdn]

Between D8 pro and Memo 3 tablet, what do you recommend? I mostly gonna use it with an ipad.

[@GameTechTalk]

D8 Pro, especially for tablets! The hold and overall feel is just better I'd say

[@luongdn]

@@GameTechTalk Thank you, keep up the good work reviewing these controllers for us man.

[@darazkal]

Id like to know the reference or a link to the bt dongle that with work with the gamesir x3pro please. Great video btw 💯

[@GameTechTalk]

So the problem is the X3 Pro has the antennas but there are, to my knowledge at least, no way to put the controller in pairing, I tried so many ways and could never find it. So while it blinks as if it's looking for a signal, there's no way to match it to the dongle and therefore use it wirelessly (with supplied external power).

[@amazingrean]

I just got the g8+ for $50, it’s been great so far. Just panicked when i couldn’t pair it to my phone, turns out you have to hold the pairing button 😅. But the switch and android mode works out of the box.

[@GameTechTalk]

50$ for the G8+ is a mega steal, gg on scoring that deal!

[@humblemudgames]

that BSPD8 Pro might be my pick for my uses

[@GameTechTalk]

A very fine solution indeed! I don't know how much telescopic gaming you've done in the past but the D8 Pro is definitely one that can effectively sell the concept to newcomers and seasoned gamers alike. A force to be reckoned with, without breaking the bank. Let me know what you think if you do get it! Cheers :)

[@NessunoNessuno-j8i]

I recently bought the Gamesir G8+ from Amazon, at a discount of €62. I think that for this price it's really the best choice. Unfortunately, I have to wait a few more days before it gets here. But at least I know I made the right choice, also thanks to this video of yours.

[@GameTechTalk]

Great choice indeed and thanks for the kind words!

[@NessunoNessuno-j8i]

@GameTechTalk I also saw that you made a video specifically about the features of the g8+. When it comes to me, I'll definitely watch it. I discovered your channel yesterday and I can already tell you that you do a really great job here on KZbin. You're very knowledgeable and you've certainly helped a lot of people make informed purchases.

[@NessunoNessuno-j8i]

@GameTechTalk Sorry if I bother you, but I have a problem with the controller, which I got today. I can't connect my phone using PS4/iOS mode. I use a Samsung and with the Android mode it connects right away, but it doesn't have vibration. So I'd like to use PS4 mode, but in this case the phone can't find the device.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@NessunoNessuno-j8i Thanks, that's very kind of you to say. It's all a very complex balancing act so if it comes out right, it means I'm in the right direction. Thank you so much!

[@GameTechTalk]

@@NessunoNessuno-j8i To kick in the PS Mode, it's the capture button plus the right most face button. It should come up in Bluetooth as the "DS4 Wireless controller" if I recall. You may have to unpair previously connected PS controllers as it could cause conflict. Cheers! Edit: No bother at all, I'm happy to help, cheers!

[@skyebozzed3349]

Just got the AO Bing, thank you sir

[@GameTechTalk]

With pleasure friend!

[@gregorybolivar5712]

Awesome content as always... 🧐🤯😎🙃🤔

[@GameTechTalk]

Thanks Gregory! :)

[@gregorybolivar5712]

@@GameTechTalk Indeed...🙌🙌🙌

[@killerkevin27]

Just got the Galileo G8+ but I need something with a better D-pad for retro, fighters and tony hawk. Think I'll check out that BSP D8 Pro.

[@GameTechTalk]

Great pick and yeah, seems like you have the same gripe with the G8+ as I do myself. Cheers!

[@tsoruu]

My kishi v1 broke and now I'm trying to choose between 4 controller... Abxylute S9, ROG Tessen, GameSir G8, or GameSir X2s. My priority is usb c. G8 is alternative to S9 because I might not be able to get it on my country. I like Tessen form factor, in that it is foldable and I'm confident in throwing it on my backpack. X2s is much smaller than G8, but it doesn't have headphone jack... If ROG release Tessen with heaphone jack and hall effect trigger and thumbstick, I would buy it in a heartbeat. I honestly didn't care about the S9's gyro and other feature, but the d-pad looks comfortable...

[@GameTechTalk]

If you don’t mind something a bit wider, you sound like you need the ELO Vagabond. It’s such an underrated product and the more I play with it the more I love it.

[@tsoruu]

@GameTechTalk looks great, but i've ordered Abxylute S9 and is waiting for it to be delivered around february. For now, I'm using my broken Kishi V1. IDK why but all of the d-pad is broken starting from the left d-pad, which is weird. I tried to clean the inside of the controller and replugged all of the ribbon cables to no avail...

[@tsoruu]

@GameTechTalk I finally got mine and idk why but i feel like it had more input latency than my old kishi... I connected the Abxylute S9 through USB and turned off my Bluetooth just to be sure that I didn't connect my phone to that and it still is slower than my old kishi... Is that normal or is my S9 a bit borked? Or am I just too perceptive of input lag? I also tested it in all of the modes and I could still perceive it.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@tsoruu Not impossible, could also be a compatibility thing with your SoC and controller, could even be your brainstem having to recalibrate after a long exposure to something familiar versus something that no longer is. I'd give it more time, hours, let alone days simply won't be enough, especially if you spent months, possibly years playing with the Kishi.

[@jaydquin]

Which usb c controller do you think would be the best for a Samsung Galaxy s25 ultra in a case??

[@GameTechTalk]

If you're into FPS shooters a lot, ELO Vagabond, if you are into a wide variety of games, I'd say Galileo G8 Plus, and if you mind the bluetooth connection of the G8 Plus, I'd say Abxylute S9 is the next best in line.

[@LMKonosuba]

56:55 full list with names

[@GameTechTalk]

Thanks, as well as specific links (reviews & buy link) of each controllers in the description if needed. Thank you all for watching!

[@minkikim9013]

Just saw the kishi 1 for for sale for 30 - where does it rank for that price? TY!

[@GameTechTalk]

The Kishi 1 was a pretty decent solution, I wish Razer had kept that design. I'd say a solid B+ if not A.

[@el_teqck]

Thank you for your videos! Have you come across any telescopic controllers that fit an iPad Mini 7 with the ability to redirect gyro to sticks? A bigger version of the X3 Pro (X3 Pro Plus) or a G8 Plus with Somatosensory unlocked would be perfect!

[@GameTechTalk]

Hey! As a matter of fact, I have, and I even made a video about it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaipn4qKq9OKjJo :) The Abxylute S9, the BSP D8 Pro and D9 can all redirect gyro to sticks. I would recommend the Abxylute S9 in first position. Oh and they all work for the iPad Mini 7. Cheers!

[@crashbandicoot5636]

Great vid dude! What would you recommend for a 12" tablet (Poco Pad to be specific)? G8 Plus, D8 Pro, or Memo S3?

[@GameTechTalk]

G8 Plus is the better option for tablets. At 12", the Memo S3 tablet probably won't fit even. If you go for the S3 or D8 Pro, take your measurements first because I don't think any of them will work. Cheers!

[@crashbandicoot5636]

@@GameTechTalk Thanks for the reply bud, keep up the great content!

[@LMKonosuba]

Maybe this sounds a bit off topic, but it does relate to some models on the list (for example the gamesir x4). Have you thought about doing reviews of cell phone coolers that fit with this type of models, because Telescopic Game Controllers are booming, but the heat generated can be a long-term problem that affects the life of the equipment. Because I have seen a large category of these and well it is difficult to say which one... or that it is really good and does not break down after a week of use?

[@GameTechTalk]

I might do a compile video at some point where rather than testing that aspect of a specific controller, I pin multiple in one video and make that specific subject the center of it but that's not in the production timeline for now. More of a "maybe down the road" kind of idea.

[@oxymoral265]

I thought the memo s3 tablet version have problems with phone camera bump? Wouldn’t that make it incompatible with a lot of newer phones?

[@GameTechTalk]

That will vary per phones but I also would recommend picking up a case that even out the camera bump in which case it won't be a problem at all, like you can see when I used my RedMagic, that was a perfect fit.

[@dotnetapp]

Some Value Calcs using your categories (stick,d-pad,ergo,features) getting an average divide by the prise x1000 (better readable) and we call it rValue (realValue) The Best Value Controller 1. JK02 rValue: 187.50 2. BSPD8 Pro rValue: 121.43 points, So the JK02 wins this by far.

[@GameTechTalk]

That is phenomenal work! I'm sure future viewers will appreciate, thanks!

[@dumasmcarvalho]

I can't decide between the X3 Pro and the G8 Plus, I saw that both are in the same price range, but the X3 Pro has cooling I will use the controller with my S23 Ultra

[@GameTechTalk]

Do you keep your phone in case because if going X3 Pro, keep in mind that the controller will only work if you remove it off of the case.

[@Xpasha09]

G8 or Gamwing or g8 plus? I kinda have second thoughts which one to buy, I wanna use it on playing Fortnite.

[@GameTechTalk]

I'd go G8 Plus personally, especially if you know you won't miss the 3.5mm jack.

[@Xpasha09]

@GameTechTalk thanks.

[@raffyhaji]

Which is better if i can get both for the same price, BSP D8 Pro or the Gamwing?

[@GameTechTalk]

I'd go BSP D8 Pro personally. The one advantage to the Gamwing is the 3.5mm jack.

[@Bleru]

I managed to get the easysmx15 for around 20$, maybe is not the best but for that price i think has good value

[@GameTechTalk]

It's a steal for $20! That's the one thing with the EasySMX, they list it at 60 but everyone I hear about paid considerably less. But they list it at 60 so that's what I have to refer to. @ $20 regular, that would've been a S for sure ahahahaah!

[@R2911-u2h]

I'm looking for a controller for my iPad 11-inch. I'm deciding between the Memo S3 Tablet and the Galileo G8+. However, I'm torn because I don't want the hassle of getting an extender for the G8+.

[@GameTechTalk]

No need for the extender, it's cool to have but it's not mandatory, watch this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZbEoYagrLqjqrM

[@CoolnBreezy.Productions]

What is best for using with full size iPad Pro? Hoping there’s an option stock to fit the large size

[@GameTechTalk]

Personally, I'd go for the G8Plus, it's just the most pleasant to take in and out of a large sized tablet like the iPad Pro. It also gives you the freedom of positioning it as you see fit. It's pretty much a no brainer to me to be honest, It's nearly the only pick in that list because of how much better that it is at that specific use-case.

[@CoolnBreezy.Productions]

@ are the L and R controllers hardwired through the body, or do they communicate to each other wirelessly?

[@spxrkz7190]

Do you think you can cover the crkd Neo s?

[@GameTechTalk]

I don't think Crkd sees value in creators of my size. Or maybe they do and I'm the one they'd rather not collab with, who's to say. If I buy a Crkd product, they double the price, half for the product, the other half for shipping. Due to that reason, I have no intention of purchasing Crkd products for my personal self. My apologies.

[@raychii7361]

I love Bsp because they keep improving with each model

[@GameTechTalk]

I agree

[@ChantelMcclure-c9c]

My manba 1 and kk3 pro game boy retro color is my personal favorite controller

[@GameTechTalk]

You got good tastes!

[@thomasre7276]

What dpad do u think is better for fighting game and platformers. the d8 pro or the memo s3?

[@GameTechTalk]

I’d go D8 Pro personally

[@thomasre7276]

@@GameTechTalk thanks! I heard clicky dpads aren't that good for platformers and fighting games( the one the memo s3) easy choice

[@GameTechTalk]

@ Mechanical are far better than tactile for fighting but the style of dpad can make or break the implementation. The Memo S3 has mechanical and the dpad style is ok. Not the best but good enough to use in my opinion.

[@_Charrizard_]

Sucks I missed the Abxylute S9 kickstarter but between that and the G8 Plus, which would you choose and why?

[@GameTechTalk]

They each are two great options but for me, the G8+ edges out the Abxylute S9 just a little bit because I really make use of its versatility

[@gab882]

can do a tier list for large tablet controllers? 12 inch. about 290mm length

[@GameTechTalk]

Interesting idea, I might consider it, thanks for the suggestion!

[@SToad]

Thanks for this great video. Do you think gamesir will announce the g8 plus successor in ces 2025? Not sure if waiting until then or getting the g8+ now

[@GameTechTalk]

I wouldn't be surprised if models can be spotted, but I don't think they will announce officially a G8 successor at CES. I'd put my money more on the G7 Pro. Time will tell though, it's not that far off.

[@peterbernhard6087]

The X4 was a no brainer for me. I directly ordered it after seeing it here. A is enough for me :) Had a Kishi and EasySMX15 before it. Could not use them with my Case.. THis one i can use with a Case and still charge with Wireless Charging (ok it may get a biut hotter and may even drain while playing..). The one thing i miss is the feature to use it as a PC Controller... so i would only need this one on the go to pair it with my notebook. But my PC won't find it.

[@GameTechTalk]

There is supposed to be a hidden mode to connect to PC as joycons. Can't remember what the shortcut is, GameSir + X I think. There's a few videos covering it on the platform. Cheers!

[@peterbernhard6087]

@GameTechTalk Ahh thank you! I found it after searching a bit. Can switch between modes witch xbox + A for Android and xbox + B for Xinput. For around 55€ this thing is crazy good :)

[@hnk9856]

Do you think the EasySMX could be more versatile for phones than the Memo S3 (tablet version)? You can use it with a cooler with phones, unlike the tablet version that will only fit with tablets, and it's easier to use with smaller power banks for Bluetooth. I kind of feel like they should swap tiers. I bought one for $40 along with the Memo S3 cooler...

[@Xx3SPAZxX]

I think they're equal it just depends if you have a phone or tablet. Phone one isnt great for tabs and tablet one aint great for phones

[@hnk9856]

​@@Xx3SPAZxX Yeah, exactly. I just meant that as the EasySMX is more versatile - *for phones*, they should be ranked at least equal, not? :D

[@Xx3SPAZxX]

@@hnk9856 yup I agree

[@GameTechTalk]

What's up guys! The cooler can be equally used with both the phone and tablet version, that doesn't change. Here's how I base my M15 vs S3 score. M15 is listed at 60. Memo S3 is listed at 40 tops, that's one major reason. Whereas I can somewhat partially agree with what @Xx3SPAZxX said, I can't quite fully. The EasySMX M15 (or Memo S3 phone) is not only not great for tablets, it's not compatible at all unless you SERIOUSLY mod it. Like, buying a new ribbon cable, cracking it opened, etc etc. On the other end, the tablet version does indeed not work perfectly with every phone, for example, the iPhone Pro bumps is somewhat of a nuisance, but it's useable still. My RedMagic? No issues at all with the tablet version. That's why. The tablet version WILL WORK on phones, some better than others. The phone version WILL NOT work on tablets, and then the price thing. That's where my logic was but if I had not taken these two into account, I would've rated them both as A. I hope that explains my thought process a little better. Cheers guys, thanks for your support!

[@Xx3SPAZxX]

@@GameTechTalk ahh I thought the phone version could stretch enough for smaller tablets. But if it can't even do smaller tablets then your scoring does make sense

[@Mist261]

Is the phone very secure in these controllers? If you used them lying on your side, would it likely fall out in most/all of these models?

[@GameTechTalk]

For the most part yes, the stretch mechanism also constrict when tightening on phones so for a phone, it's pretty much impossible for them to come out, if you were to go past the typical use, like nudging a tablet (which I often do 😅), some of those controllers I wouldn't dare use while laying on my back as the last thing I'd want is a tablet falling on my face ahahah!

[@Mist261]

@@GameTechTalk Lol I see, thank you for the reply man, love the video! I'm going for the Memo S3 Tablet as my first device, many thanks to you.

[@key421]

If you had to pick one of the S tier controllers for the new Red Magic Nova (android 11inch tab) what would it be?

[@GameTechTalk]

G8 Plus. The G8 Plus, in my personal opinion, works better at larger devices than any other options that can still do it as well. Next in line would probably be D8 Pro but it might be too deep for a tighter hold.

[@key421]

@@GameTechTalk Ok I bought the controller and I love it, one thing I noticed was A B and X Y where reporting backwards, is there a way to remap these for android?

[@GameTechTalk]

@@key421 There is, hold Capture + bottom most face button for like 5 seconds, the controller will vibrate and then the values will swap. Or, you can remove the buttons (they are magnetic) and swap them to match the Xbox/Nintendo layout, whichever your prefer!

[@Drivenby]

Klef do any of these coolers actually do something OBJECTIVELY? Not just cool the back . But better cpu or battery temps?

[@GameTechTalk]

Oye @Drivenby! It's been a minute!! Yes absolutely. They can do both actually, if we think of cooling in a PC case, it's hard to understand how those coolers do help but cellphones, being mroe often than not passively cooled, it's a "closed" pocket of temperature that builds up inside. Plus, everything is so compact. By applying cool from the outside, it actually does make a sometimes shocking difference to the overall temperature of the components. That said, not every cooler are as efficient. The Memo S3 cooler is form than it is function, to stay polite hehehe!

[@Holyshiszle]

Do you have any controllers that you would recommend for portrait mode gameplay?

[@GameTechTalk]

Believe it or not, there aren't really options good for that, the solution is either to have a device large enough for one of the non USB-C ones such as the G8+, or have inserts to add to tighten enough on the device that you can close onto it. Pretty sure there are quite a few 3D prints to do exactly that out there.

[@Holyshiszle]

@@GameTechTalk Thanks that's what I found too. Was hoping you knew some. Thanks for the info =)

[@bitterbuffalo8997]

Is the wireless only of the Gamsir G8+ a concern if I'm playing older NES games that rely on quick input lag? Would you reccomend that I go with a wired option in that use case? Thank you!

[@GameTechTalk]

Retro gaming is notoriously challenging because emulators have inputs on top of the controllers themselves. With bluetooth 5.3 and how robust GameSir's implementation is, I gotta say, they really make it so that I don't experience a difference between wired and wireless, that's not to say that there is not maybe an extra 5ms in the mix but it's not substantial enough that I'd feel as though the convenience comes at a sacrifice. I hope this helps, cheers!

[@bitterbuffalo8997]

@@GameTechTalk It helps a lot, thanks!

[@SirSirvent]

Hi! Would you recommend Kishi v1? I want something portable that can fit in my jacket’s pocket to go on the subway and I saw it for 20 bucks. The rest seem too big to be able to do it, needing a backpack. Thank you!

[@GameTechTalk]

For $20, I don't see why not to be honest. It's a reliable product and one of the better offerings from Razer in my humble opinion. Cheers!

[@SirSirvent]

@ Thanks a lot!

[@Sk8boi-D]

I hope someone can release a controller for big camera bumps. I've tried almost everything and still can't find one that fits my phone snug without popping out

[@GameTechTalk]

What phone do you have? Also, if your phone has accessories that can even out the camera bump, that fixes the issue for most controllers that have a flexible connector like the GameSir ones and EasySMX ones. That or a BSP which is so deep (they are designed to work with Switch too) completely cancels out the issue.

[@Sk8boi-D]

@@GameTechTalk I got the honor magic 6 pro. The camera just doesn't fit in that gap. I tried every gamesir. I thought the x3 pro would work with the movable cooler, even that don't. Same with the M15. I guess I have to try the BSP. Hopefully that will work since it's deep.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@Sk8boi-D Let me know how that turns out for you, if it doesn't I would be out of ideas to be honest.

[@alexodromo2600]

The G8 plus vs S9 dilemma has been driving me crazy for weeks!!😫 Which one should I get as a controller for wii emulation, fps, and casual gaming with other friends' consoles? I'm being so annoying about this cuz I don't want to regret this purchase

[@Ultrasixx]

I dont have the S9 but i do have the G8+ and boy oh boy, its amazing. Dont think u can go wrong with the G8+

[@GameTechTalk]

I don't think you would regret either way but someone asked me a similar question today (was it you actually?) and the only answer I can give is that as much as I think both are phenomenal, I personally have a slight preference for the G8+ just because by being bluetooth first, it gives me that extra bit of freedom. With that said, the Abxylute S9 achieves just a bit more overall but at least when comparing both, the freedom aspect takes it over the slightly more features (which I wouldn't use as much anyway). If I wasn't a KZbinr, I'd still get both personally but I have a problem so don't take me as reference! 😅

[@alexodromo2600]

Thank you so much for filling this rabbithole I had for weeks

[@NoBodysGamer]

Im confused about your GamWing AoBing Max comment, you say it converts USB-C to audio and others dont, than what others do? Isnt it what the audio jack supposed to do? to take USB-C audio from the phone and convert it to analog to plug-in headphones?

[@GameTechTalk]

Yes but it's a different protocol. And that protocol is only active when you are connected (and using) that specific device whereas AoBing could be connected bluetooth to your PC, while still capturing the audio from the USB-C plugged into your phone and outputted to the 3.5mm jack. Other devices that have both bluetooth and wired don't do that. I explain it a bit more into the AoBing review but quite frankly, I would recommend to not put too much thought into it, it's gonna be a useless feature for 99.9% of people to be honest. It was just surprising to see on a controller.

[@gregorybolivar5712]

First Pick for Me GameSir X-4 Aileron... RgB...Volume controls + -...Mixed Touch / LefT or Right Controller... Behave like JoyCon by switching Mode... works with Android / ios / PC / N-Switch... Perfect for the Pimax Portal 5.5" RaZeR Edge 6.8"... Second... BsP D8 Bluetooth Controller (Sky Black or / and Star Space White Edition) Best looking printed graphic texture design...RgB...Rumble...Nice fits those 8 inches Tablet... Also, Perfect for the Pimax Portal 5.5" RaZeR Edge 6.8", Lenovo Legion Y700 2023 8.8" Tablets... Sure... ipad Mini 6...7... 😎🙃🥸🧐🤓🤯

[@GameTechTalk]

Ahh I love this comment. Well, I certainly can't deny that you are consistent in your preferences my friend! 😊

[@gregorybolivar5712]

​@@GameTechTalk... Of Course....My friend... So many choices, but a " Game Tech Talk Edition" would be cool too... 🤓🧐👍🙌

[@MK-VR6]

Happy new Year together. I wanna buy a Controller to play Call of Duty Mobile. And for me it seems like the Best options are Gamesir G8+ and Abxylute S9. Both are almost the same price.. so what do you recommend.. which one is better ?

[@GameTechTalk]

Thanks, Happy New Year to you too! Two great picks, if you think you’ll want to use it on a tablet, or like the flexibility of connecting and disconnecting without losing connection, go G8+. If you care more for 3.5mm jack and no need for charging, go Abxylute S9.

[@MK-VR6]

@ i would like to play ok my iPhone. I dont need 3,5mm because i use airpods. Normaly my Price limit was 50€ but at this range is just few nice one what always have Software issues for IPhones. Gamesir G8 Galileo,8bitdo and Moga xp7x is limited compatible with iPhone ,but the Controllers looks nice for me,so maybe you can recomend a few controllers between 30-50€. And if possible a xbox/dualshock style form faktor would be nice not like the switch one.. like one one of thoose 5 Controllers what i have mentioned

[@GameTechTalk]

@ EasySMX M05 or M15. Youll get app support, super well rounded and it fits in the budget you have

[@botgamer6742]

Can you make a video or tell me about which is best between 1}Backbone one gen 2 2}Razer kushi 3}Gamesir G8 plus 4}Abxylute S9 Tell me which is best for Mobile and PC 😊

[@GameTechTalk]

G8+ > Abxylute S9 >>> Backbone One Gen 2. I didn't put the Razer Kishi because there are 4 different ones, I didn't know which that you were referring to.

[@hardknock55]

Backbone should be a D tbh. I had two and my 2nd gen broke on me so I grabbed a GameSir g8 for $66 off amazon while I wait for my abxylute s9 to arrive.

[@GameTechTalk]

Yup, I had two break on me too, the quality is not what it's made up to be. However, the warranty experience was positive so I'll give 'em that but I'm ready to move on from Backbone until they release new stuff.

[@Gundemonium]

So there is Memo S3 Bluetooth at aliexpress. What would you recommend between this and g8+?

[@GameTechTalk]

Unless I'm misunderstanding, the Memo S3 with Type-C does have bluetooth, is that what you are referring to? Or do you mean a new model with no Type-C and a battery to use wirelessly? Because the Memo S3 has Bluetooth 5.0 which is definitely not as good as G8Plus, not comparable in terms of performance and reliability. Bluetooth on the Type-C Memo S3 is more of a convenience thing than a solution you'd want to use regularly. But if you mean a new Memo S3, maybe they improved the bluetooth revision.

[@Gundemonium]

@@GameTechTalk nope, im talking about a new bluetooth version. Some ali listings have updated their memo s3 variants, and now some of them include a regular one, tablet one and bluetooth one (and picture does not have a type-c connector), but there are no reviews at the moment for this variant

[@GameTechTalk]

@@Gundemonium Interesting, thanks for mentioning it!!

[@custody456]

bro, I'm thinking about buying gamesir x3 pro or g8+, which is better to choose for heavy games like zzz, wuthering wawes and others? I have realme gt3 with Snapdragon 8+ gen1

[@GameTechTalk]

If you run into heat throttling issues, it's an easy pick. If you don't, the G8+ is definitely the better pick in my humble opinion. Not saying the X3 Pro is not great but rather that the G8+ is greater, that said they do have features that differentiate each of them.

[@custody456]

@GameTechTalk thanks

[@TyTango]

That Elo Vagabond stands out to me, i just wish they made a tablet version also....

[@GameTechTalk]

The "overly gaming" aesthetic is usually indicative of one of two things, they completely nailed the ergonomics OR they overdid it and it's too excentric for its own good. I'm willing to put my money on the first option but I'll test it out first hand very soon. You got me excited for it just now, thanks!

[@ELOLimited]

@@GameTechTalk Ergonomics can be improved in my opinion. Lots to learn after our first product :). The app is being improved weekly as well. Just playing catchup at thsi point but lots of people love the controller!

[@mythydamashii9978]

The BSP getting high ranking 😮 I might try them next

[@GameTechTalk]

Yup, all things considered, they do the job and for an extremely affordable price!

[@muhdzaidi3051]

A fair warning to people who are interested in X2s bluetooth...the controller randomly turns off mid game in DS4 mode on the latest firmware. It could be a major issue for people with iOS devices. I did try downgrading the firmware, it didn't fix the issue sadly

[@GameTechTalk]

I wasn't aware of this issue, thanks for bringing it forward for viewer to be aware. Hopefully GameSir will fix this soon with a new firmware.

[@tbuckets2522]

Where does the 8Bitdo Ultimate Mobile controller fit in this Tier List??

[@GameTechTalk]

I’d need to have it in my hands to be exact but I think it’s somewhere between A and B leaning towards B