MY BABIES. Volume 9 Chapter 7- The Perils of Paper People | RWBY Reaction!

[@ericreacts2]

You thought after last episode that this was a HAPPY SHOW? April Fools!

[@BendyGaming1258]

Ye

[@sonsonsja9973]

Welp

[@gingiboyo1600]

average rwby episode be like

[@lenaS2306]

I am not okay.. I'm not 🥲😭😭

[@batsdomain7057]

my heart rate went up which is crazy considering Arcane didn't have my heart rate go up.

[@janaguirre4756]

Jaune for 20 years: protect the people Little paper star: Please just let me die

[@stevewhyte7582]

I see there the perfect allegory for a caretaker trying desperetley to help a sick eldery parent.

[@micahdear2380]

Juane’s hyper fixation on saving everyone so much is what makes naming the paper pleasers after his friends so sad. He’s desperate to save his loved ones so when he FINALLY finds something he can save of course he names the fragile, prone-to-death, lovable paper pleasers after the people he couldn’t save back in Remnant😢

[@ethansolorzano5989]

yea but they actually wanted to die. to jaune it just sound like another thing for him that stupid to kill themselves just to reincarnate

[@stevewhyte7582]

Jaune and the paper pleasers is actrually very similar to a caretaker trying to help an eldery dying parent. They are slowy losing their health, and they is nothing that can reverse it, but no matter how much they wish their caretaker would just let them go, there is no way they would. The caretaker would do ANYTHING to help them in any way they could,no matter the toll it take on themselves, no matter what anybody says.

[@raphnoble808]

he’s projecting. not exactly the healthiest coping mechanism :(

[@knottymango]

I think this hits harder knowing that jaune was ruby’s only support pillar ever since vol 3. He stood by her every step of the way even when wby left ruby and doubted her plans (even when they forced the role on her). Now he’s broken and she’s broken there the only two people who haven’t had a proper break to rest and reflect on their trauma properly unlike everyone else. I think it really highlights how little attention wby showed to ruby since even ren and Nora saw jaune breaking and helped him a bit same with Jaune trying to help ruby in previous volumes. It’s gonna have to be up to wby next ep to heal ruby so she can heal jaune.

[@ninjakittlaser8086]

Is anyone gonna talk about how far ruby went with her semblance when she stormed off?

[@MrAuthor3DS]

She did fly all the way up the hole in the bottom of Atlas (to the Winter Maiden's Vault). Not surprised.

[@ninjakittlaser8086]

@@MrAuthor3DS yeah I’m mostly talking horizontally because the farthest we’ve seen her cover ground in one burst before was when she caught a piece of gravity dust back in vol 7

[@lianathewolflover4516]

So I looked it up, Ruby is 17 in this volume! She’s freaking 17, and has had to deal with so many things! I don’t blame her for snapping and losing her cool. She’s a teenager and had to grow up so fast. Yeah Weiss, Blake and Yang had to grow up fast too, but they were the same age, rwby doesn’t have anyone her age to lean on.

[@starnight5785]

My guess is maybe it from her emotions her semblance got affected as well maybe that’s how she was able to go further I know this is outside of the topic but then again, if you think about it with anyone with powers, emotions can actually take a huge effect on it who knows maybe she might able to do something new with her semblance

[@ninjakittlaser8086]

@@starnight5785 that would make sense. emotion is a pretty large part in this series and even more so in this volume, neos semblance evolved when she kill the creature and she was frustrated during it.

[@nobuffer101]

"We can't count on him." My guy has survived the woohoo wonderland for decades, prepared as much as he could for their arrival despite his tight schedule, and finally has the time to fully explore everything on his own and obtain a lead back home that doesn't potentially require human sacrifice and all he's counting on is team RWBY to help look after the village that's offered and given them nothing but hospitality. Jaune's just asking them to hold the fort and prevent a cult suicide while he's gone, and they can have a much-needed breather after the chaotic events that have transpired over the past few days, and when he comes back they can discuss any potential leads from the amount of information he can gather. While Jaune isn't exactly right for them trying to prevent their "ascension", at the same time, Jaune sees it as such because the tree took Louis and hasn't seen him since, especially since he was left out of the story, and maybe getting accustomed to the people that help you constantly commit group suicide wasn't exactly a comforting idea. Who knows how many times he actually had to watch that too, because he had to see it enough to know and predict what they'd do. Having to basically watch people die on loop isn't an idea anyone would ever want to get accustomed to. Even if it's normal for them, basically being told that it's okay to let them die since they'll just come back isn't exactly a comforting sentence. But the only one who hasn't come back was Louis. So his worries aren't _that_ unreasonable. I get that they want to go home, and that's completely understandable, Jaune probably wants to leave more than anyone since he's been there longer than anyone, but they really need to take a minute to calm down and properly process everything efficiently instead of acting immediately on assumptions. But still, not gonna lie, that was a little disrespectful to Jaune. The guy's been doing his best for decades and all he was asking was to help him help them.

[@EngineScypex]

"All he's counting on"? He spent years, maybe even dacades and has not a single clue on how to get home - also he lied about having a plan to get back (he at best has a plan to research how to get back). He wants 4 of them to hold the ford for him to further look around. Yes, he might be longest in the ever after, but that still doesn't mean he knows and uncovers everything. And he's not exactly the strongest and most intelligent person by a mile in the team. And not only that: If you look carefully on the to-do list, it seems even "helping Pyrrha study" is more important then finding a way home.

[@nobuffer101]

@@EngineScypex And they had nothing to work with except a children's book that ended up being wrong. Jaune willingly volunteered to survey the land and gather more information than he could before since he was so focused on preventing the people who have shown him nothing but hospitality commit cult-suicide. He doesn't have a solid plan, but it's a far cry better than anything team RWBY could come up with. He's offering to gather information across the ENTIRE land, and they just have to make sure the paper people don't drown themselves for a like week and help them with their homework. They get a much-needed breather, rest, and can focus on their next move while only needing to do a chore list that one person can do a day, and 4 can do in an afternoon. They can even split the effort to be more efficient. In a situation where you are in DESPERATE need for information and cannot risk exploring the unknown, when the guy who's been there for decades, knows some, if not, most of the ins and outs says they can finally focus on reconnaissance and information gathering and is much faster on his own so they can take a break and do a few little things a day. Just take the plan, they need a break, and Jaune needs some fresh air to focus on a new goal. Let the veteran offering to scout, cook. Because it's much better than walking off on your own without knowing what you're doing and where you're going. They might not count on him to "fix all of their problems", but they can count on him to know his way around and explore efficiently, since again, he's been there for years, and come back with at least some parts of the map they can cross out so they don't pointlessly explore someplace. They "can't count on him"? Jaune has been doing his best for decades and when he's finally reunited with his friends, he immediately offers a plan that is meant to help all of them get home in a safe and rational manner, and instead of waiting, plans to leave immediately so he can get finish and get back faster. They really got to have some faith in Jaune, instead of immediately looking for an alternative. Time away from the daily cult suicide, and actually being able to focus on helping his friends is what Jaune needs to get his mind back on track. Not "we can't rely on you, so we're gonna go back to the cat we met two days ago who basically killed the child you failed to protect."

[@EngineScypex]

@@nobuffer101 The book doesn't state only truthful information or even every information gained, but can still give indications. Jaune volunteered to survey the land, demanding that all of them in return do his "job". I'd say 4 people instead of 1 makes up for him initially being maybe a bit faster, because he knows the world better. He has NO plan (at least if we're talking about getting back) and he claimed that he had one. How did it end when Oz lied to them? And his plan is better then anything RWBY could come up with? Until they met Jaune, they wanted to go to the tree. And for all we know, that most likely is the correct way. Jaune is completely opposing the plan, just because he assumes that Lewis ascended there. But the thing is, like you said, the book didn't tell the full truth. It's totally possible that not Alyx but Lewis was the one got back to Remnant. It's totally possible that even both got back. Sorry, you're talking about days and weeks. Might I remember you that Jaune is likely for DECADES there already? Depends on what you call a veteran. Jaune might be the longest in the ever after, but that doesn't mean he is good at what he is doing. Who tells us that he didn't already rush over things that might be useful / important and we just don't know it? Just a reference to the real world: I've seen a lot of trainees who come up with extremely good ideas or even do overall a better job then people who work 30 years on their job. Just because he is "doing his best" is not an universal excuse for everything.

[@nobuffer101]

@@EngineScypex I meant veteran by comparison. The guy who's known the land longer than they have. Also, the importance of gathering information is that you use that information to MAKE a plan. His "plan" is to gather information so they can make an actual plan. Something that has, and will, always work. Jaune has been there for decades and has still explored far more than they have. And with this "schedule", he's probably only had about 1~2 hours a day to explore, so given how far he can go and how long he can stay within that time period, he has been limited to only doing so much. He has a detailed map of the surrounding area, so the others could probably explore in depth in their free-time, while he handles the long-distance surveillance. There has never once been an instance where scouting ahead and gathering information has never worked in some regard. If you find a dead end, you know what path to avoid. If you find something promising, you can mark it down for further exploration. And "doing his best" isn't an excuse. I'm just saying that Jaune is still trying to be helpful and is actually doing his best to be efficient and effective in getting them all out safely. And saying he's "unreliable" and they should leave and go to someone else, who Weiss herself points out is NO ONE, instead of actually trying to help their FRIEND, is a little uncalled for. And I'm saying "days or weeks" because Jaune isn't doing a single trip. Gathering information and relaying it is important. You're gonna have to go back every now and then so upon every return they have more information for a more accurate map. And in this whole "wonderland", the only person they can really trust is either their friend or a cat who openly admitted to lying to them on purpose. It's like when Gollum was Frodo and Sam's guide to Mordor. Frodo and Sam don't know where they're going or really who to trust, but by your logic they would be fine going to Mordor on their own and they don't need help because everything is gonna be okay. Even if the tree IS the way out, because of Jaune's experience and Curious' ambiguity, human sacrifice is on the table. And if it's on the table, it's shouldn't be ignored, because it's HUMAN SACRIFICE. Worst-case scenario, it's one-for-one. Best case scenario, Curious was lying, Louis is still alive somewhere, and Curious was just being an asshole for withholding that information because "YoU nEvEr AsKeD". No one has a solid plan, and we've seen what having a very loosely made plan has caused. And the only way to make a plan is to gather information. Just as "Jaune's doing his best" isn't an excuse, "Ruby being a kid" isn't one either. All Jaune was trying to do was offer a reasonable solution to their predicament. The least they could do was not talk behind his back. He's their friend, and they've all been through a lot, Jaune clearly getting the shortest end of the stick, talk to each other.

[@EngineScypex]

@@nobuffer101 Yes, he is longer in the ever after, but that doesn't actually mean he is that experienced. Just recall how much time he must've spent to protect the village over decades. No, informations per se aren't important if not accurate. Just re-watch the episode. He "cleaned" quite a few acker and how much hints does he have? Let me take out my calculator... 0. Scouting is only helpful if you scout the right area. Let's just assume for a second that the way to Remnant is found at the tree and since Jaune don't want himself or RWBY to go there let's declare the tree-area as "non-acker". How many Ackers do you need to scout to find the answer? I'm not saying to just ditch him. Now that his acker is flooded he is free anyway. As for the tree: Yes, human sacrifice is as much on the table as they might encounter a pink elephant in the next 3 minutes in their timeline. Possible? Yes. But since no-one present in the current story knows what happened. Jaune was poisoned and the cat got tricked. Neither of them stated to have seen Alyx or Lewis after. It's totally possible that one of them had to make a sacrifice. But it's also possible that both made it to Remnant. Or that they got attacked by a Jabbawalker and one of them sacrificed themself. The cat might had withhold information, but there is a big difference between just not giving all information you have without being asked for it and lying. Jaune didn't offer that "reasonable solution", he tried to enforce it.

[@robertcolon8909]

Jaune admitting he's not ok is the first step of recovering

[@Awesome_Pichu]

Everything Ruby said had me thinking about back in volume 1, where she told Jaune that as leaders, they couldn't let their own issues get the better of them because their teams relied on them. And now get Ruby being sick of having all that responsibility being shoved onto her

[@EngineScypex]

It's a different thing if you have to lead your god damn team in the academy or if you are leading in a god damn war where you get constant L's. Also in V7+8 they were 2 teams and therefore 2 leaders. Where was Jaune doing his part?

[@EVTGRoblox]

Do you notice how when Ruby cried; the storm didn’t appear? Last time when the team was distressed (V9 E2); the storm appeared.

[@starnight5785]

Either two things, one could be a coincidence or this could be bigger than a storm I have a feeling we’re going to see a lot more heartbreaking things and Ruby. Also, (we just got April food)

[@starnight5785]

AND NOT IN A GOOD WAY 😭

[@ddancingaura]

They could be tears of anger, not necessarily sadness.

[@Sanjali04]

That was for sadness. I don't think this is sadness or at least not mostly sadness. This is overwhelm. And anger and trauma.

[@hrayz]

@@starnight5785 even the Toy Soldiers know the rain means a sad person nearby, they say so just before finding Ruby and company.

[@franklinalba6528]

Let's be honest Jaune and Ruby are in too bad a state both emotionally and mentally, they both really need help, hopefully it can be resolved before someone gets hurt.

[@k.h7180]

After rewatching the episode and reading the to-do list, it’s interesting to know that all of the daily catastrophes are caused by the paper-pleasers. they’ve been trying to kill themselves every day and Jaune would always stop them. This episode wasn’t exactly dark, but full of depth. the concept of death, rebirth, euthanasia… it’s a lot. loving the volume!

[@Kalakauai123]

I'm imagining the idea of a village full of suicidal villagers.

[@billa3785]

Ruby has been suffering some major PTSD this volume, yes she lashed out, but she still needs to sort it out. Thanks for the watch neighbor, from Oz (Park).

[@MrAuthor3DS]

Finally! Ruby and Jaune really needed to get that out before they exploded... Hopefully, the next two chapters will give them the time they need to find the paths they need - especially with Neo still raising hell in the Ever After.

[@rhazortrhazort3003]

Nope, most probably this 2 episodes will set the stage for more pain before healing.

[@GooWell726]

IMAGINE the weight Ruby's catharsis would hold if she had told weiss "you're right. Ozpin did make a mistake after all." (referencing her jab at ruby in volume 1 when weiss was still spoiled and bratty.)

[@rhazortrhazort3003]

Because he did, he just asked her to join because of her silver eyes. She shouldn't have been there in the first place.

[@tornedoley]

​@@rhazortrhazort3003 thats true. Thing is ruby could have still joined but weis could have been the leader. Her abilties are high resourceful ness and highly effective immobilizing to set up other teamates. Ruby could be more on the team tactician role of the team.

[@rhazortrhazort3003]

@@tornedoley The main problem is that Weiss at that point had a very entitled vision of the world. She didn't get better until she started giving Ruby and the rest the benefit of the doubt. Also Ruby still had to get one more year on Signal before moving to Beacon. Also, it's not that Ruby doesn't know how to seek help, she has been searching for help from her betters since the Fall of Beacon. The problem, and she very well mentioned it, she is tired of looking for someone that will not screw everything up. She knows her team is also suffering from problems, and she delayed her own until she couldn't anymore. She has not a single shred of hope for the future now

[@ShadowStar91]

Both Ruby and Jaune have valid points for snapping at everyone. Just wished the next episode(s) would release much earlier than the following week. But the scene where it's Weiss, Blake & Yang looking out into the distance where Ruby disappeared off into the expressions they're giving, they know they have messed up beyond immeasurable proportions, because of the neglect and negative vibes that they have demonstrated towards Ruby, so I wouldn't be surprised that Ruby has an Anti-Hero stint before returning home because of this, with a possibility that Neo is the one who inadvertently teaches Ruby those concepts - despite wanting Ruby dead. If Weiss, Blake & Yang do agree that need to make things right and acknowledge Ruby's state of mind, they will need not only a miracle to find her before she leaves them in the Ever After, but an apology that goes beyond the simple hug it out, accept that need to help her out with mental state, but whole heartedly agree that they need to stop putting their own needs above everyone else* (*Weiss is still dealing with the loss of home, I'm talking about Yang and Blake), stick together no matter what like Weiss said in Vol. 7 Ep. 4, as a family to the bitter end. Also Yang needs to pull a galactic sized apology, and make up with her sister big time. I do like that they made YangxBlake canon (forgot the abbreviation 😂), but it should've been done in volume 7, not volume 9 whilst Ruby has gone way past the breaking point and needs her sister, now more than ever - trying to give a balanced criticism about Ruby and Yang. Once again really enjoyed the video, looking forward to seeing your next video.

[@demogame7630]

oh for sure i agree. id like to see ruby and neo just talking it(with a fight or however else) out also yang sure "shes not a mind reader" but we know Yang has been the mother/sister so she should of known some sign, but her priorites have been blake. only one who asked are you ok? was weiss which i liked

[@stardragon2577]

A small talk about this episode, but it hit hard. Throughout this season, all it's been for Ruby is basically "Hey, we see you're upset. But we gotta hurry up and grab our weapons. No need to sit by and be in our feelings." Throughout it all, everyone's been able to express their emotions and kind of resolve them. Throughout it all, when Ruby gets an ounce to try and shed her feelings, something always happens that won't allow her to. Her feelings were very valid to be expressed, she had every right to be upset as the team turned to her to pick Jaune up after the village flooded. After everyone saw she was clearly struggling I'm not saying she was in the right to yell at them, but she has every right to express herself. After everyone turned to her, the default leader, to resolve this. When she's a child. She was a child, who fantasized the life of a huntress, and was made the leader. She has gone through so much. Ruby has had to deal with trauma from family, friends, people they thought they could trust, watching people die over and over again. And then has had to face the monster her own mother couldn't stand against (don't even get me started on how much Summer influenced Ruby's aspirations of being a huntress played a part in Ruby's trauma cuz we'll be hear all day) On top of it, Jaune yelling at Ruby? Blaming her for the decisions she thought would work? Kind of rubbed me the wrong way. I understand that Jaune too has been through a lot as well, was put through so much trauma. But I think Ruby's voice should've been heard more. Because she's right Her feelings matter too. No one ever asked if she was okay. Throughout this season, she's blacked out. Has multiple panic attacks. Had existential crisis moments. Literally cried as she clung onto Penny's sword. Literally got scared of holding her own weapon. And no one has stopped to ask her "Are you okay?" The only one who has really taken notice but not made the initiative to ask is Little. She has seen ruby's frustrations, and heard her thoughts. Seen the paths Ruby could take to "shedding Ruby Rose away". That's why I think the next episode or at least in future ones, Little is gonna be the one to try and help Ruby throughout all this. One way or another, Little is gonna play a huge role in helping Ruby. And that's it for my small banter about this episode

[@Aurilion44]

The thing is Jaune also had it bad. Hell, you can argue he had just as bad (family issues, friends thinking he is a fraud, being a failure, lover dying, killing friend with his own hands, losing 20 years of his life among others) since Ruby is a chosen one and did have triumphs. Jaune is a comic relief that didn't have a single true victory. Even here he is overshadowed by combat prowess of other members and failed to protect people who saved him. I don't want to diminish something, but BOTH of them have PTSD and messed up circumstances. As to let her vent it out? Absolutely, but outbursts like this are out of question (as someone who has mental issues myself). I think Jaune even noticed her struggling, but decided not to pry before.

[@stardragon2577]

@@Aurilion44 Oh no, I see it both ways. I understand what you're saying I'm not diminishing the fact that Jaune also had it bad as well. All the points you've said are true to heart at the end of the day. In a way, I guess both of them were in the wrong for outbursts towards each other and the rest of WBY. But I just kind of feel like Jaune shouldn't have started blaming her for the situation at hand when she's venting about her feelings. As I said, I'm not saying Ruby was in the right to yell at everyone, but it's understandable why she had an outburst.

[@Emeraldstriker]

I know I cried for at least 10 minutes 😢

[@Alya9673]

The only moments I see was yang worring was some episodes but she knew it she wasn't okay at all

[@elpepo0]

​@@stardragon2577 she mocked his friends, the one who saved him from suicide, if Ruby wasn't his longtime friend he would have put her to sleep

[@danceklife9998]

I hate how everybody is mad about ruby like bro, ruby should be the only one to say anything she has had such a hard time

[@crimsonline3440]

Same. Like pointing fingers at the person who just snapped (I mean, Ruby and Jaune really needed to get it ALL out) really doesn’t help. If anything, being mad at someone who just been through a lot will only add fuel to their pain and agony

[@danieltinsleykhvsff9622]

What about jaune though.

[@crimsonline3440]

@@danieltinsleykhvsff9622 My guy was talking about Ruby getting a lot of hate because of her outburst. Ofc Jaune wouldn’t be mentioned in that comment

[@jaylorts1608]

So, now that Ruby left them, what are they gonna do now?

[@venomrulesall]

@@jaylorts1608 Well WBY better think about how useless they've been. Weiss was to busy ranting about how nothing made sense while Blake and Yang were to busy with their feelings for each other which they could've dealt with a lot sooner (I am happy they're together now). They barely noticed that Ruby was clearly depressed, even though she wasn't really hiding it. I hope they realize that when Ruby needed them the most, they more or less ignored her.

[@SoulWhiteAngel]

If you go back you can see that blake did interupt many moments where ruby couldve been talked to like when they werelittle and yang says rubes before blake interuptted. She was also HYPERFOCUSED on leaving the world. Not to mention once they saw Jaune they noticed he wasnt okay but they didnt notice the bottled down ruby who kept getting interupted especially at the end where they looked worried for ruby got interupted by the paper pleasers getting removed and they tried comforting jaune instead. (As for early episodes where weiss tried to ask if shes ok, ruby wasnt ready to talk then but when they sat down at the log with pennys weapon, she was willing to talk until interuptted and she bottled her feelings again when the storm clouds disperse)

[@raggarbergman]

And Ruby finally snaps. It was a long time coming. Coming from someone who kind of have bottled things up for abput 37 years and now finally start to go trough it more serious so I can relate to her.

[@AZ-ik4de]

Man, I thought it was cute that he had named the paper people idk the spelling of their names haahah Afterans? After his friends but like imagine, one of them named Pyrrha and one named Penny..... His whole reason on why he was so protected of them was because he was ABLE to protect them, in a way its for him to unhealthily cope on what happened to his friends and its just sad. I want to talk about Ruby and Jaune's breakdown, it was honestly building up from the start especially Ruby's but its sad that Jaune accepted something was wrong with him while Ruby ran away from it. 😢😢 Our leader and babies are falling apart and we can't do anything but watch

[@mr.bellsprout7767]

There was actually one bullet point on the to do list saying something like “Help Pyrrha with her HW”.

[@stevewhyte7582]

@@mr.bellsprout7767 Best one :'' Look out for the terrible two's.""

[@BlaireRabbit1440]

I love the parallels between Ruby idolizing her mother and her friends idolizing Ruby herself. Ruby has venerated her mother for so long, picturing her as this infallible warrior that was literally the best, and the realization that it isn't real has totally damaged her mental state and her will. And now, her friends, who have always idolized Ruby as this beacon of what a huntress or huntsmen should be, are beginning to realize that she's just a person, and nothing more. Super fun parallels, and I'm excited to see where they take her character from here.

[@cristiana.gomezr.171]

Finally I think this is something we needed, we always see how Team RWBY ends finding their way out without so much character breakdown, now we can see another face of Ruby, what she has been thinking about, she also has feelings and is a human as her teammates, also Jaune too, since Season 4 he has been through many difficult times, he feels lonely and is true, Nora and Ren at least have they if you could say so, seeing how the Everafter also broke his mind is another thing to count. I don't know you guys, but I really like when characters are having emotional breakdowns because we don't always get these moments. From these moments, we can see more about them, their resolves, their wills, and wishes.

[@Phantom6.6.6]

This episode perfectly reflects the song time to say goodbye

[@Alya9673]

AND IT'S TIME TO SAYY GOODBYEEEE

[@lorenzoteague8445]

Indeed...... The innocents of all of their youths are long gone now. And not without so much pain. Now, Ruby's pain is bare....... She's held all of it for so long!! Long before the fall of Atlas. And now, she and everyone must face it if they're gonna survive, let alone leave the Ever After. Guess the real journey begins now .

[@robertolanzone]

Oh god, could you guys imagine if the next episode has the acoustic rendition of "Time to say goodbye" during the chapter? I mean, it won't... but if it has...

[@RUSTIC-HATHAWAY]

Juane in this volume is giving me miyuverse shirou vibes, the moment he says that he cares so much because he can actually protect these people. He just wants to take something he cares about and not lose it.

[@lucariodash4874]

I really want the white rabbit to go back with JAUNE to REMNANT if JAUNE dose go back... i think it would be cool

[@sqxbarto9229]

I'm not even sure, if Jaune will come back, in the intro only Team RWBY run on the tree...

[@lucariodash4874]

@@sqxbarto9229 yer ik tht JAUNE might die this season or not make it out but still if he dose i want that rabbit to go with him maybe in REMNANT it could be PYRRA reborn into something else oviously it wouldnt have the same memories has PYRRA did but u see where im getting at with this.... just think him n the rabbit would be cool to see if back in REMNANT REN n NORA end up in trouble then out of nowhere JAUNE on his white rabbit comes flying in to save NORA n REN

[@sophiemoser1752]

Especially since he had a white rabbit on his sweater all the time back in season three or something

[@lucariodash4874]

@@sophiemoser1752 yer your right i had totally forgot about that the white rabbit on his jumper he was wearing had something to do with the cereal that PYRRA was on the cover off i think if i rememeber it correctly he said its pumpkin pete u no from the ceral n in volume one he finds out that PYRRA is on the box cover of PUMPKIN petes ceral box when she mentions it or WEISS mentioned it in that scene in volume 1

[@lucariodash4874]

@@sophiemoser1752 U are right it kinda makes it seem like its destiny for them both to be with eachother as a pet type thing or something, he had a white bunny on his sweater or jumper as u mentioned in volume 4 i think it was when he was changing into his armour from the black smith

[@israelpadilla8126]

Somehow people are mad at jaune lashing out as if ruby didnt sit there and insult the creatures that saved him and helped him stay sane through the years

[@israelpadilla8126]

@@mehh3518 Well i meant sane as in not off himself

[@kristophersy773]

In Ruby's defense some of what Jaune said was not her fault, none of them knew Cinder and Neo found out their plan, that wasn't something they thought about. And remember, Ruby is two years younger than all the other students in her teams year, she's the youngest one and the one who has all this leader responsibilities dumped on her, others looking at her for solutions

[@kylewilson2819]

@@kristophersy773 It was a stupid plan to send the refugees to Vacuo to begin with. Why not Vale or Mistral or hell, even MANAGERIE?! But creating a complex portal system to a DESERT that is SWARMING with Grimm is just stupid no matter how you slice it.

[@relic5752]

​@@kristophersy773To quote Ruby herself "... and hope we haven't forget anything," just as the camera pans to Cinder hiding with the refugees. They *all* forgot to take into account thY their enemies are active within Atlas. A simple caviat to the creation spear that anyone currently aligned with Salem couldn't pass through would have sufficed to make Cinder's comeback impossible. Yet, being as short on time as they were, they failed to consider that possibility

[@skirongozdawa40]

@@kristophersy773 That is why he apoligised to her after lashing out

[@GriggsDeMagus]

"Make-believe friends" To be fair, while Jaune was a bit harsh, that was a real c-word move on Ruby's part.

[@tenkyu778]

Yeah considering that the paper pleasers did save his life from Alyx. And he clearly values them as friends. The sad part is that he knows the paper people longer than his team timeline wise

[@shannonn2569]

​​@@tenkyu778 he was forcing them to stay alive way way past their due date however, my theory is the schedule is all things that are meant to happen in due time as fate predicts but Jaune keeps preventing one after another when they just want to pass on..glad they finally got to pass on.

[@tenkyu778]

@@shannonn2569 I mean can you really blame him?, The characters so far don't even know if the tree means ascension or not, for all we know they probably did die permanently.

[@shannonn2569]

@@tenkyu778 all i can hear is the tree going Papers Please to each Paper Pleaser as they present themselves with Id cards.

[@tenkyu778]

@@shannonn2569 lmao

[@RectPropagation]

Jaune ending up in a village full of being trying to kill themselves was absolutely the worst possible thing after what happened with Penny. No wonder he didn't want to listen to them.

[@relic5752]

After what happened with Penny AND Alyx and Lewis. He would not be left in any condition to heal from his issues with only suicidal beings as his company

[@danieltinsleykhvsff9622]

Ok so I've been watching jaune snap back at ruby for a while now and I've got to say this is my favorite scene of the episode. As much as I predicted this would happen at some point and believe me ive been expecting this, It honestly really hurts me too see it hurts to see rwby and Jaune fight like this. I hope things can get better. Overall I give this episode a 10/10.

[@ashleyquiroz1414]

Yo I feel so bad for ruby and everyone is just so messed up because after everything they didn’t even ever asked her if she was fine or really gave her a talk. Like it is always about everyone else when it comes to someone’s else emotions but I feel like when it comes to ruby she always has to be the uplifting one and not being sad in anyway which makes it so aggravating seeing this episode. So I feel very terrible for ruby especially since Penny isn’t even there anymore for her because she was really the only person who understood her in a way so it just makes me feel very terrible for her.

[@starnight5785]

OK in 23:40 you mentioned that Ruby’s not happy about her sister’s relationship, but what I believe is because of the entire pressure trauma, and the situation, she wasn’t thinking straight, so she lashed out on them.(by the way, I only wanted to clarify that because I truly ship these people they deserve the entire happiness) and I’m guessing that rooster teeth is going to at least give us more on the situation. Maybe they might fix it in the next episode or it’s going to be something else either way I truly hope that the next episode or the next two episodes are going to fix the situation because to be fair they’re going through a lot and it’s basically not right because they’re still kids especially Ruby!!! Either way I think that your ideas were very on point let’s all just hope that in the next few episodes, everything can get fixed and they can defeat the entire hell hole that’s happening in the remnant. Either way I love the video, and I hope you can do more in the future. I don’t know if my conclusion was on point either, but this is what I truly think.

[@Jordan-gp3mj]

Strange they still act as though they can’t go anywhere/fight without each other lol. And the way they judged Jaune rubs me the wrong way. He was left alone and left to die. He did the best he could and no one talks about that

[@tetragaming6332]

Every time they separate, bad things happen to them, I think they’re noticing that pattern subconsciously. I think part of the problem with Jaune is that there’s a time discrepancy. They haven’t digested the fact that Jaune has known the paper people longer than he’s known them timeline wise. He has an emotional attachment to them built on a desire to save their fragile lives after they saved his from Alyx

[@CreakingCrab]

Yeah, but yet again they didn't know, and still don't really know all he's been through. The burden he's carried for all of these years. But for the most part, yeah I'd agree with you there.

[@superboyx2837]

Only seems like Weiss cares. Blake and Yang were eager to ditch them while Weiss tried to be more gentle

[@LeoAndrares]

​@SuperBoy X i mean, but Blake wasn't wrong tho, they're sentient creatures, to ascend is what they wanted, he was practically keeping them hostage lol, but i understand why he does it though, it's because to forget everything would be horrible for him, so he assumes it's the best for everyone too, but it's not, and that way he is able to "protect" them, something he thinks he isn't able to do otherwise. I don't think there is anyone wrong here, it's just very unfortunate situations 😕

[@ModernAegis]

Maybe coz he just got done helicoptering and gatekeeping an innocent village and projecting his issues onto them and is kinda being a dick right now.

[@josephlee4086]

Ruby definitely gonna meet the blacksmith again

[@Ssecave]

I hope Blake, Weiss & Yang realises at some point than both Ruby and Jaune are the 2 characters that have gone to most shit, their mental states are broken and They really need help. I wonder if the writeres will go that route.

[@Alya9673]

They're already knew because they're there in the past volumes?

[@kylewilson2819]

@@Alya9673 They clearly don't know or don't care. Yang and Blake are completely fixated on each other and Yang especially is extreme in her refusal to admit that anything has gone wrong to begin with. Yang has ZERO ability to take accountability for her own failures and instead places her blame on literally everything else (Like blaming Ironwood solely for the Fall of Atlas and the failure of the refugees to reach safety, even though her and Blake's betrayal of ironwood was what kickstarted Atlas' fall to begin with). So no, I doubt Yang will apologize because I don't think she's CAPABLE of doing so. Blake and Weiss might, but I doubt Blake can take her eyes off Yang long enough to do ANYTHING on her own at this point.

[@cyclopssam3309]

ruby: good for you, we are so happy for you XD. that kill me

[@kickstand801]

Ruby's going deeper and deeper into that dark place. No complaints here.

[@wolfzend5964]

Seeing people paint both Ruby and/or Jaune in the wrong here is kind of essential up in a way. Both of them have been through the wringer more than either deserved. Ruby was a naive girl who wanted to be a heroine like her mother, seeing it as more of a game initially and not knowing what it meant to be a heroine. She had made her choices, believing them to be the best, trying to be positive, and at the end of the day, she made a mistake regarding withholding information, which resulted in Ironwood going off the deep end. While she tried to keep everyone safe and help, she was attacked by Cinder and Neo, both of which wanted Ruby dead in the first place. Now pretty much everything she worked for is nearly gone, she is trapped in another dimension, questioning if she deserves to be a huntress, and hasn't at any point before now, had a chance to vent. (Keep in mind she is still only 17 or so if I'm right) so clearly, she had to break at some point. Then you have Jaune, which is even in a greater mess than Ruby in my opinion. Much like Ruby, Jaune wanted to be a hero like his family, but unlike Ruby, he was never given a real chance, having to resort in cheating just to try and earn a right to be a hero. While he did finally learn that his initial reason was selfish, he did move passed it and became just as much, if not a more worthy Huntsman than several others. However, as time went on, he lost too much along the way, he lost the only real person who believed in him, and even confessed to him right before she died, which he blamed himself for, he nearly lost his friend when Cinder impaled Weiss and he only saved her out of sheer luck with his semblance. He learned that Salem was immortal and that Pyrrha's and their own sacrifices were possibly pointless until his team helped him get back up. He had to be there to help Ren and Yang go at it, trying to keep them together, possibly blaming himself due to his team losing the relic, losing Oscar and more. And then at the end, he failed to save Penny when she was fatally injured, and despite her sacrifice, Cinder still won in the end, with Jaune falling into the void. Now here is where it gets harsh, Jaune was alone in the Ever After, and worse yet, had his entire life nearly stolen from him after going back in time. He waited for who knew how long alone, to the point he grew up waiting for his friends to fall, only to meet Alyx and Luis. However, when he knew how "the story played out" he did everything he could to make sure they got back, however the story and what actually happened where different. Jaune blamed himself yet again for being unable to be a proper hero. In the end, despite his best efforts, he was betrayed and left to die, unable to do anything. He was saved by Juniper, as well as the Paper Pleasers, and wanted to save Alyx and Luis, but fond out that, as far as he knew, Luis was gone, Alyx was in Remnant and the cat was hiding something. Learning about the cat's purpose, the truth of assertion and more, he realized the truth and came to believe that the tree kills you, and without a straight answer or anything to go off of, he feared the worse, and that, because of him, he failed to save someone else (Luis) He however still held hope for seeing his friends, and wanting to find a way home, wanting to atone for his constant failures, he developed PTSD. That's why when he learned the people who helped save him wanted to ascend l, he did all he could to prevent that. Jaune is to the point where all he had left, for years, where the people who wanted to die, something he had become scarred at. (Think of a war veteran surrounded by those who want to die, but after losing his entire platoon and closest friends, he couldn't lose anyone else) and thus went to the limits of making and memorizing a schedule, wanting to keep them safe. (Which brings up a point, do you keep people safe wanting to keep yourself sane and them alive, or do you let them die like they want to, having them pull the plug and die on their own terms?) After years of this, it finally happened, Jaune reunited with Ruby, but also faced Neo, who became stronger. After spending so much time worrying about his friends, both RWBY and the Paper Pleasers, Jaune wanted to protect and help all of them. He knew he had a schedule and didn't want to lose anyone else. So when heanaged to bring RWBY to the village, he believed that they could find a way out together, having hope in his heart that together, they could escape and he would redeem himself. However, Neo attacked the village, gunning for Ruby, his friends he waited for for years begin to distrust him, and after everything, Jaune loses the village he spent years trying to protect, that was his final breaking point. By this point, both Ruby and Jaune are at their limits. Ruby is sick and tired of being placed with a duty, not wanting to be the leader, wanting to vent despite her team and Jaune having no real idea what she's going through, between her failings, Salem's actions and her uncertainty. It got to the point where she essentially made little and dismissed Jaune's own breakdown to validate her own, something which while she was right to snap at her team for, was wrong to dismiss the entire village as Jaune's "make up friends" That was when Jaune snapped, because for as long as he could remember, Jaune looked up to Ruby, supported her, believed in her, and ever since they reunited, she had been different. She didn't fight because she was scared, while Jaune, who was so worried about his own issues, the schedule for helping his friends, that he didn't really notice Ruby's actions until she started lashing out. But when Ruby dismissed the village he snapped. Jaune even states he wasn't in the right mindset, but you have to remember, he had known the Afterans more than anyone from Beacon or Remnany by this point, to him, they werenhis family, or more accurately sadly, something like friendly pets, like Zwei in a sense. So when someone with PTSD, who's only real sense of comradeship similar to a dog (I know they aren't dogs but in Jaunexs perspective they kind of where in a sense) and Ruby just scoffs their death off to said soilder with PTSD who loved that dog like his old friends stating "it was just a stupid dog" then yeah, Jaune lashed out. Because for as long as he could remember, stranded in a world unlike his own for longer than Remnant, with the person he believed the most in for as long as he could remember, suddenly throwing herself a pity party and dismissing half of Jaune's life of constant failures, he called her out on what he presumed what it was. It was Ruby he had faith in, it was Ruby who he trusted and as a result fell into the void, it was Ruby both Cinder and Neo were after, it was Ruby Neo was still after and it was Ruby who essentially, albeit completely indirectly, destroyed the last thing Jaune had left. And she was acting like a spoiled brat, ( from his perspective) just like Alyx did. I think he was yelling at Alyx more than Ruby, he was betrayed once by Alyx, and in his grief, he believed Ruby was acting just like Alyx. Jaune not only went through his PTSD, he also probably relived his time with Alyx and his betrayal. Jaune however noticed Ruby's face, and realized he was in the wrong for lashing out at her but can you blame him. He lost everything, was betrayed, and probably relived that mentally again. And for Ruby, Jaune snapping at her was also the final straw for her. Out of everyone, Jaune had always stuck alongside Ruby, only breaking off in Season 8 to help Yang and Ren with Mantal (Which was Ruby's original idea) so when he snapped at her in the middle of her venting, that broke her further. Both Jaune and Ruby needed one another to be there for them, but because of Ruby's venting and Jaune's PTSD backlash, both are now completely shattered, they probably don't trust each-other at the moment. The only thing is, that Jaune had time to come to terms that there is something wrong with him, and Ruby is completely lost. The only question remains, what next?

[@badonshrimp6851]

for me, being yelled by your friend saying that its your fault because of everything makes me dead inside. Agreed with what Jaune's lashed out.. but going that far is the same as you killed the person entirely

[@wolfjacket551]

Bro this was like two people having a mental breakdown at the same time and you could see were both of them came from that’s some impressive writing

[@injaninja7654]

I do love the fact that you understood that Ruby wasn’t okay. A lot of other reactions I’ve seen have been Ruby is attention seeking and just having a mental breakdown. This is huge development that honestly I’m shocked that it didn’t happen sooner! I hope Ruby can get some help 🥺

[@ericreacts2]

oh man whaaat. That kind of reaction to her arc is wild to me. Yeah, hoping Ruby the best :(

[@CoCofi8103]

anyone else here becuse they watched it on youtube first but now have to rely on reaction viseo's to see it free?

[@bedrockboy2194]

Me

[@BaratAnemica]

Yep. That, and im not giving money to crunchroll

[@danielmartins9901]

@@BaratAnemica There are literally other websites💀Kickassanime

[@jjojon7072]

Kick ass anime my friends

[@MercuryMlbbOfficial]

​@@jjojon7072 thank u

[@TheChar45]

Wow, did not think that this episode would go so hard but it was so sorely needed for this series. Thanks again Eric!

[@sakurap95]

I think the mirrors from last episode were depicting the things each of them were grieving. For Jaune seeing his younger self was him grieving the loss of his innocence, almost.

[@ozmasterofmasks5838]

Wait a sec.....rebirth? So could the fact that Alice has the same pose of neo be...😬 Or maybe the other way around?

[@Cloud-dt6xb]

That's actually a good guess, we'll have to wait and see.

[@littlejune131]

I don't engage with the fandom much because of how absent-minded and deliberately misrepresentative most modern-day audiences are, but I have to disagree with what I've seen in the majority of comment sections on this topic, and with Jaune here, when he says "It's all about you!": from literally the moment Ruby set out with him, Ren and Nora at the conclusion of Volume 3, Ruby has been trying her hardest to be a huntress and do the best she can on every occasion, from learning new things to handling new people to planning for new situations. When she made the mistake of withholding the truth from Ironwood or hatching the ineffective strategy of launching Amity, she openly admitted it, and she also vocally expressed her own frustrating awareness of her shortcomings after encountering the Fox and Hound Grimm too ("Then nothing has changed!"). She has never been blind to them for as long as Jaune has travelled with her. And all of this effort has always been to help OTHER people: JNR, Haven, Qrow, Oscar, WBY, the people on the train, Argus, Mantle, Atlas, Penny, etc. All Ruby has done is try and fight and scramble to save as many people as she can non-stop, despite continuous setbacks and failures (and those are not just her own failures -- other people's ideas and ventures proved fruitless and/or detrimental too!). Blake and Ruby even discuss this while firing up the generator at the Schnee Manor: that Blake admires Ruby for never falling short of doing SOMETHING, even when no one else dares do anything, because Ruby is always on the move and always thinking and caring. And mind you, of all these people encountered on her journey, only Maria, Ironwood and Dr Polendina made a substantial effort to HELP RUBY better herself as a huntress, and only for a very short time. Qrow taught her scythe-fighting in her childhood, but hasn't taught her since, as far as I can recall. And Jaune was told Ruby's plan to save Atlas and Mantle just like everyone else at the manor was, and they all reviewed it together, ironed it out, and AGREED to it. Ruby never forced her friends to go along with it, she was only the one to suggest it, and several others contributed to it. But when it eventually fell apart, despite it having the input and consent of multiple people and not just Ruby, Jaune blames Ruby for it, exclusively. And that's just wrong. Jaune could not have come up with a better strategy on the fly in the desperate circumstances they were, let's face it; which is why he agreed to support Ruby's and gave his constructive input on it, because at the time he sincerely believed it could succeed and so he assisted accordingly. But now all his years of grief have encroached on his mind enough to blind him to the inconvenient truth that HE was complicit in that plan too, to the exact extent he chose to be, and Ruby was not singularly responsible. Also, she didn't formulate the plan for herself, she did it literally for EVERYONE ELSE. But somehow it's "all about you"?! And it's RUBY's fault Roman died as a result of his own fuckery and his psychopathic sidekick hates and hunts her for it? Come on. I think this is just a very sad situation for everyone, where Jaune and Ruby's respective traumas are causing them to lash out in ways they do not entirely mean or are fully ready to admit; her disregard for Jaune's devotion to the Afterans this episode was cruel and totally uncalled for, and absolutely did not help the situation whatsoever. But I also think the main onus should be on the rest of Ruby's team here: they've all had their own troubles to sort out, sure, but they have been quite lacking in their support of their leader throughout this (and some of last) volume, considering all they know, and all they know of her. Yang especially -- Ruby is her SISTER, yet this fact has barely been at the forefront of their interactions since the Grimm attack last volume. I'm happy for Yang and Blake, and I'm sure finding happiness together at such a strange and uncertain time can be a distraction, but I don't think that should have anything to do with just how dismissive they and Weiss have been of Ruby's tells this season. I love all the girls, but this has really been rubbing me the wrong way, like their attitude toward her getting lost at the festival two episodes ago. I truly hope they talk about it and sort it out sufficiently soon.

[@gvidaspakalniskis5096]

I see your poits and mostley agree with them. I just can`t agree that Yang isin`t acting like sister.Yang did talk with Ruby in Volume 8 after they reunited, Yang sacrificest her life for Ruby in Volume 8, but was she ever thanked for that or talked to, becouse as she said she tought she died befor meeting rest of RWBY. Yang looked out for and rised Ruby her whole life. She is trying to support Ruby but Ruby is not talking, Yang can`t just start talking to RUby about her problems becouse if Ruby dosn`t want to it`s not gonna help (just like Weiss in Volume 5 with Yang, Yang had to talk first about her feeling Weiss responded) Ruby dosn`t talk. And Yang has her own problems to deal with, just becouse she has Blake now it dosn`t mean her problems suddenly disappeared, just like Blake said she acts tough and brave even if shes scared (she probably still has major abandonment issuesm, and thinks Blake might leave her) Ruby is 17 already she should be abble to talk to someone and ask for help. And I think Yang not only deserves being happy with Blake and trying to lessen her problems a little, but needs to. (and to have some alone time without worrying about Ruby 24/7) Yang needs to think about herself more and be happy.

[@femmelace]

@@gvidaspakalniskis5096 Kinda missing the point about depression (or PTSD, assuming that's what Ruby has) which is that people suffering from those mental disorders sometimes need to be PROMPTED to speak. It doesn't matter if Ruby is 17, people in the real world at much older ages have struggled with opening up about their mental health. It's not a comfortable thing to talk about. And also - the point isn't about whether or not Yang deserves to be happy. She obviously does. The problem is that her and Blake do dabble in a lot of toxic positivity. Ruby had every right to call that out, especially since Yang has been using toxic positivity to downplay Ruby's perspective since *volume 7*

[@gvidaspakalniskis5096]

@@femmelace Ok first of all I don't really understand your point on Yang and Blakes toxic poistivity? Care to explaine more. Seconde Yang definitly tryed to talk with Ruby (like when they are small Yang said Rubes are you ok?) Or when she talks to no one in the market they ask her who is she talking to and if she's ok, but Ruby still dosen't answers them. And I am sorry but every team member of RWBY has PTSD just cose it's not shown dose not mean they don't have it (Weiss saw John kill Penny and lost her home, Blake saw Yang die, Yang died for Ruby) But I get your point.

[@MeemahSN]

@@gvidaspakalniskis5096 did you completely miss the whole “people need to be promoted to open up” part? Ruby doesn’t feel like she CAN talk about her problems even when people check in on her. The whole volume so far has been Ruby suppressing her emotions because she feels like she’s not ALLOWED to open up. Ruby didn’t know how to tell the others so she hid her feelings, which led to her exploding. Everyone is at fault here, and frankly? They need to show Ruby a bit more compassion right now, because she’s been through considerably more than WBY, coming close to Jaune’s trauma (tho not to the same level as him.)

[@gvidaspakalniskis5096]

@@MeemahSN Ok sorry but everyone has been promting Ruby to open up and say whats wrong with her, she just dosn't say and I understand it's her character ark and it is good, but it's Rubys problem not the teams. And Ruby has suffered the most in RWBY? Really? Every member of WBY has sufferd more than Ruby well maybe not Blake unless you count thinking Yang died. Not saying that Ruby hasen't suffered, but I feel like her arc is more off selfdiscovery and her own problems that she has and ofcourse learning to open up, becouse her team is doing a lot if not everything possible to help Ruby and try to talk with her. Ruby needs to find her purpose thats what the whole Volume 9 so far has been and no one can help her if she dosen't allow to be helped. Thats why I think is a great arc

[@lonerevenant0]

I loved that Ruby told them off. She needed to do that so hard. They do rely on her too much to cheer them up. And she's right why does she have to lead? She was their leader back in school!!! They're not in school anymore!!! They can switch out and give her a break every now and then!!!

[@1241Aprilstone]

I don’t think they intentionally want to burden Ruby bcuz it is what they are all used to… but I think WBY could have a done better job at checking up on Ruby, esp since Ruby has shown multiple times this volume she was looking sad and out of it. The rest of the team should’ve known something was up and actually intervened. The only one who has had a real talk with her was Weiss at the beginning. Even then, Weiss has been at times nagging to Ruby to hurry up and stuff. Blake and Yang are were too caught up with their own issues they needed to resolve with each other… but they’re not all to blame. They’re always stopped by smthng externally too with keeping up with the cat, Neo’s illusions of the Jabberwocky, saving others, or some other discovery/development. Ruby hasn’t had the proper time actually fully air out grievances or vent out her emotions. She got moments where she could have if she wasn’t interrupted and by the need to keep moving forward and finding a way out. Blake and Yang has last episode and Weiss… well she’s still coping with the lost of Atlas and not the main focus of the volume (serving as the comedic value).

[@shannonn2569]

Weiss tensing like when Jacques's yells at her implies she is still scared of being scolded at/Hurt...

[@elpepo0]

Weiss doesn't get shit from anyone, if it was Vol 1 Weiss she would have laughed in Ruby's face😂

[@jeffreysmith236]

the last time Winter yelled at her, Weiss reacted by hugging Winter which stopped Winter cold. I am surprised Weiss forgot that, but if she had hugged Ruby and apologized for missing Ruby's pain, that rant would have ended right then.

[@dailydosesfoanime]

*I wonder how they weren't able to see that something was wrong until know, when she can't even hold her weapon properly*

[@yukiotacon2846]

What makes me so mad is how people are trying to paint Jaune as the bad guy here for yelling at Ruby. The Man spent god knows how many years in pure isolation with only his troubled thoughts as company. What we just saw here is basically both Jaune's and Ruby's traumas mixing and reaching their boiling point. People should not be arguing about who was in the wrong. They should be more worried that either Ruby or Jaune might pick Ascension . I fear for Ruby now because not only is she a target for Neo but also imagine if the Curios Cat decides to give his Ascension pitch to a now very vulnerable Ruby Rose

[@EngineScypex]

Just with the difference that Jaune had how much decades time to come to terms with things while Ruby doesn't and every single time when she needs a little break there's always something more important. Also he lied about having a plan. Heck he even put "study with pyrrha" on his list higher then finding a way home (if you watch his to-do-list). Not to mention that his arguments aren't even valid. They all decided what to do, he could've objected or made another suggestion. He didn't and therefore has no right to complain. And blaming Ruby for existing isn't very helpful either.

[@marinadiaz1762]

Gotta say... I've never felt Ruby more and I already knew I related to her the most... holy sh*t

[@ziriebenton6659]

Well now I’m thinking the Tree might give a choice to human outsiders. It can send them back to Remnant or it can give them a new role in the Ever After. Assuming neither of the siblings betrayed the other, Lewis might’ve chosen to stay while Alyx went back home. Maybe the other way around?

[@bainbridgeomega]

I know that it would never happen. But I would like to see Ruby turn against her friends and become the ultimate villain at some point. This episode kinda gives me villain origin vibes

[@SpatialSloth]

We did it guys. We got to the point where we just can't take it anymore.

[@KingMufasa_8]

I hate how people expect yang to magically solve all of ruby's issues just because they're sisters. Life isn't like that

[@crimsonxero5924]

Exactly! They'll find any reason to hate on the show.

[@elpepo0]

Nobody said that Yang should solve Ruby's problems, but at least showing that she cares about her? Yang has talked to Ruby 3 times so far this season. If the show hasn't told us that they're sisters, all of us would probably think that they're barely friends

[@Ethan-nl2wg]

While that is true, I do think it’s fair to say that Yang has been slightly neglectful, like Ruby passed out after hearing Penny died in the first episode but only Weiss said something to Ruby about it

[@KingMufasa_8]

@@elpepo0 maybe i'm watching a different season because yang is always the one asking ruby if she's okay and showing concern when she's sad. But she can't do much more than that

[@KingMufasa_8]

@@Ethan-nl2wg i think you need to rewatch the episode. When ruby woke up yang immediately hugged her and asked her if she's alright, ruby ignored her and started talking about neo. Funny how you neglected that

[@maty5510]

Someone please give Jaune a hug 😭

[@lfz4611]

Blake did

[@maty5510]

@@lfz4611 they all need several

[@mushroom4286]

Both Jaune and Ruby have the right to be angry and let out their pent up frustration. Especially since jaune lost Pyrrha and had to kill off penny for the sake of saving the maiden powers, he had to live and probably think about that ever since he fell down to the ever after. Ruby has the right to be angry cause she has been bottling up so much grief because of watching Pyrrha die in front her, the burden on her shoulders to be team leader and put team first at a young age, losing her mother and probably not having many memories of her except for what others tell about summer or what memories she has left from when she was so young. She was so traumatized after Salem told her what she probably did to her mother back in atlas. Everyone is extremely traumatized from the events that unfolded, but none other than how badly it affected Jaune, Ruby, Even Winter and Qrow! I feel so bad cause he must have gone back to heavy drinking and worry so much about Yang and Ruby . Winter probably went on some form of Grimm killing spree to let out anger from seeing her sister fall as well. All I will say is, im scared on what will happen in the finale.

[@aniocitex1131]

Feels weird. Juane was loser to Pyrrha but Ruby witnessed her death. Ruby was closer to penny but Juane watched her die .

[@troymanansala7739]

I REALLY hope something happens soon that gives these characters some semblance (no pun intended) of hope. After everything they've been through, they truly deserve to get a fighting chance. I REALLY miss the positive and bubbly Ruby Rose. Maybe have it tampered with all these experiences and maturity, but please bring the Ruby we all know and love back.

[@dragon2218]

Weiss: If those Walkers make it down here, then those Afterans won't ascend. Wrong franchise Weiss 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Ruby FINALLY truly brokedown 😮😮😮

[@AZDfox]

No, she's right. They are Jabberwalkers

[@dragon2218]

@@AZDfox Walkers.... from The Walking Dead.....

[@xeno6773]

Something that really hurt me, and probably hurt Ruby way more, is that while she was popping off, Yang's first thought wasn't to go to her sister. It was to protect Blake, like Ruby was a threat that needed to be defended against. Fuck, dude.

[@agent1149]

I’m going to be honest. I don’t think Juane really has a right to yell at Ruby. Juane said that everything was about her and that it was her fault all this bad stuff is happening because her plan didn’t work out but Juane, you literally did NOTHING to contribute to the plan. If you had a better plan or idea then why didn’t you speak up? Ruby only came up with this plan because everyone was putting pressure on her and no one else had any ideas. This plan was literally for everyone the sake of everyone else BUT her. She needed to make a plan just so that she could keep everyone’s morals up so that they didn’t loose hope. Obviously Juane has been through a lot being by himself for a long time but that doesn’t give him a right to blame Ruby for everything. What Ruby said in that outburst was just the truth. Sure it may have been harsh but it needed to be said. This isn’t the time for lovely doevy stuff and Juane needed a reality check. Those paper creature WANTED to reincarnate. They were literally trying to off themselves but Juane kept wasting his time (for years btw) trying to stop them as a form to cope with his trauma of not being able to save Penny. What Ruby said was just the truth. If they wanted to save Juane and bring him back they needed to give him a reality check and Ruby was the only one to actually say it to his face which triggered him. I honestly wished Ruby would’ve said something like “then you should of thought of a better plan then”. Like Ruby isn’t the only leader. Juane was too but he didn’t do anything so Ruby had to.

[@avab.2794]

"Returning to the tree" This is a really sad concept to tackle.

[@TroyDyamondWilson]

Sorry, guys. I'm a huge RWBY fan and I just realised what you probably figured out like millions of years ago but just wanna get this off my chest. When Jaune said, "I'm late! I'm late!", it made me think back to the beginning of Volume 4 when Ruby was laughing at Jaune because the hoodie he was wearing underneath his armor at the time... had a white rabbit on it. So, of course, Jaune IS the white rabbit. Cool. 👍🏾

[@JustAJinx-ci6hg]

I like how Ruby saying 'Shut. Up.' was enough to make everyone go O.O

[@georgijcaikovskij5623]

So Jaune has a real mental traumas after Pyrraha\Penny deathd and lived several XX or even XXX years alone in Ever After aka Fairy Tale when Ruby problem was :"i Dont wAnnA be a lEader f.... off,lol"🤡

[@THEPROPHETOFGAME]

Damm, just damm. What a well executed episode. Everything was done super well.

[@vibinggood2023]

I understand ruby completely

[@tabithamartin4092]

Anyone notice that when Ruby was yelling at Blake, how Yang actually stepped in front of Blake, as a human shield?

[@donovan_salgado]

Team Rwby has done what they have always done, they forcus on themselves and their beliefs Yang was so mad that she has to babysit the paper people from not accidentally Killing themselves, and Blake and Weiss felt the same way that they want to go home and not just sit still and hope jaune finds something.....our heros ladies ad gentleman and ruby didn't actually give her opinion And they assume what ruby thinks or wants Yes it was revealed that they wanna rebirth or ascend but do you let a mass village kill themselves just because they believe they will have a better purpose? And did ALL of them think that way? You think those will be cheers of happiness not screams when they finally did it This is not black and white issue

[@lucariodash4874]

People might agree with RUBY n all that but tbh everyone needs to see it from JAUNE'S point of view here who actually has had it worse so far throught out everything that has happened between TEAM RWBY n TEAM JUNIPER ?? Team RWBY are still together all 4 of them - team JUNIPER lost PYRRA n right now REN n NORA have lost JAUNE atm since he fell in the ever after too U can say RUBY lost her mother sure But look at it like this she still has her father, yang still has her parents n blake dose too weiss she only lost her father her mother brother n sister are still alive Where if u look at team JUNIPER, JAUNE we dont really hear much about his parents they dont get mentioned or seen we got to see 1 of his sisters, NORA n REN have no family left no parents at all, n they lost there team member PYRRA..... Now TEAM RWBY are still together in the ever after n have been there less time then JAUNE has - JAUNE has been there for a long long time all the way to the point where the 1st people he actually saw from his world was the girl ALYX n her brother LOUIS, everyone he trys to help ends up dieing n he feels like he was unable to save them - he lost PYRRA, he lost his team since he been stucj there for a long time , he now has lost the village people here in this episode all cuzz of NEO n her quest to find n hunt RUBY ROSE, where ever team RWBY go they bring chaos n death n destruction everywhere they go.... JAUNE made a good point RUBY saying "what about me" but JAUNE made a good point if he was not distracted by them so much he could of done what he has been doing keeping the village safe, n NEO hates RUBY she is only after RUBY we keep seeing that the jabberwalkers by NEO doing only came there cuzz thats where RUBY was.... Also JAUNE has so much guilt n suvivers guilt, he was the last person on his team to see PYRRA before her death he couldnt help or save PYRRA, he had to kill his friend PENNY by PENNY's request, he spent so long alone in a strange world where theres no humans at all n he did so much on his own protecting n even taking his time to find RUBYs weapon for her, RUBY could habe actually made it in time to save PYRRA so could WEISS when JAUNE called them to save PYRRA but they got distracted by the GRIM where they was they could have been able to get to PYRRA in time if they didnt slow down stop n talk.... I dont no about any of u but tbh JAUNE has it worse then RUBY dose right now just saying... RUBY still has all her team mates, her father, her uncle n her sister, JAUNE lost his girlfriend n right now lost his team in a way n lost pretty much those paper things he even named after all of his friends he gave them all names after all his friends so for him thats like losing all his friends in one go right there in front of him n then RUBY starts goinf off like we meant to feel bad for JAUNES make beliefe friends or your happyness n all that.... like u got your weapon back your team is still here, WEISS lost her home in ATLAS but she still has some of her family left so dose RUBY BLAKE N YANG Just saying out of the 2 i think JAUNE has had it worse then RUBY has

[@batsdomain7057]

True but at least Jaune had time to Grieve.

[@lucariodash4874]

@@batsdomain7057 he was able to get over PYRRA's death in a way n let it go sure, but with PENNY that tecnically happened plus the time turning back thing all happened within mins of eachother... so JAUNE may habe had time to grieve but u can say the same about RUBY she has had time to grieve too

[@batsdomain7057]

@@lucariodash4874so she has had time to grieve during V4 to V8 is that what you're telling me? cause if she did and was able to we WOULDN'T be here rn

[@batsdomain7057]

@@lucariodash4874 If that's what you think or believe is true then so be it you believe that I'm gonna believe that she hasn't had time to grieve bc that's how it should be no one should have to agree on one thing everyone you should be able to have their own opinion.

[@lucariodash4874]

@@batsdomain7057 u forgetting that JAUNE has been with RUBY since V4 to V8 too so u saying he had time to grive yet RUBY did not.... seems to be your taking RUBY's side here when JAUNE has suffered way more then RUBY has at this point

[@1241Aprilstone]

Lol why are people painting Ruby in bad light and then others painting Jaune in bad light. I think both Ruby and Jaune are justified in their feelings while at the same time not liking how they reacted by saying harsh words to each other… but also being okay with it from a storytelling standpoint bcuz it’s helping them develop. It was bound to happen, and no one is the bad guy here… just internal emotions finally coming out from being bottled in for so long and WBY not realizing/ not knowing how to respond. It’s actually great seeing these characters more human with more nuance and have the conflict with one another feel natural as they stem from internal conflicts within themselves. Idk I just love it when characters have multiple sides to them that paint them as realistic with flaws, arguments, and not always one defining good or bad trait. The only thing I found a little weird is how Yang stepped in front of Blake as if Ruby was gonna hurt her, when Yang knows her sister would never do that Blake? I don’t expect Yang to solve and carry Ruby’s burdens, but I found that a little odd. It reminds me of the scene in volume 6&7 with confronting Ozpin and Ironwood and how Yang kind of took a stance of defensiveness… except this time it doesn’t make sense as Yang trusts and knows Ruby personally unlike with Ozpin and Ironwood.

[@relic5752]

Fully agree. Of all the conflicts in this show, this one is probably my favorite and makes the most sense to me. We find two leaders who defined their roles in the group as "the ones who set their problems aside for the sake of the whole" lost in a world where they don't have any answers for the people that look to them for guidance. This ideal, while heroic, left Jaune prone to suicidal rushes the moment he's face to face with their actual enemies (vs Cinder in V5) and has left Ruby a bundle of nerves worrying about her mistakes (V4, V7 and V8 have moments dedicated to showing this-- though they were upended too soon for my taste).

[@pauljordan0203]

I know Ruby's upset, so is Jaune, and I know they didn't mean to say those hurtful things, they're just not themselves, they need to realize that everyone has their faults, and flaws, that's something that both Ruby and Jaune have to understand, especially Ruby, all this time she's been trying to be like her mom, and the heroes from the books, but she needs to realize that she can't be like her mom, she can only be herself, and no one else, they need to go after Ruby to sort of tell her that, cause she's not safe as long as Neo and her cloned copies are hunting her, hopefully on the next episode they'll find Ruby, and talk some sense into her, and finally shake off that negative behavior of hers.

[@ItsAKindOfMagic6]

I disagree, I think Ruby had every right, this breakdown was a long time coming. And also, you can't just "shake off" such deep negative emotions like its that easy, you can't just "talk sense" into someone who's feeling like that and expect them to get better right away, it doesn't work like that. And It's not her that needs to realize anything its the rest of her friends that need to realize they've been shitty friends and apologize for not noticing and helping her sooner.

[@BiasFree]

Okay yes, this is finally an episode I can really get behind. It's well written so action reflects the deeper issues. The team hasn't been facing the real problem they have been following a to do list, and ultimately by not facing the damn just breaks both literally and figuratively. and finally we can make some real progress.

[@Vuurstern]

I'm glad I wasn't the only one to think of The Good Place while watching this!

[@vash3055]

Paper Pleasers: "Glory to Arstotzka!"

[@makusuwerusan7390]

Ok.... Ruby has finally lost it.... Like REALLY.... We should all be very worried.

[@k.h7180]

Ruby was valid with her feelings but throughout this volume whenever there weren’t interruptions and someone approached her about her feelings, she would shut down or distance herself. communication between everyone could be much better.

[@lonerevenant0]

Yeah but that's pretty realistic for someone suffering from depression and self doubt. To just pull away when people try to help.

[@darkrot824]

I agree that her feelings needed to come out eventually and I’m glad they did. However, that still doesn’t justify her acting like her problems are worse than everyone else’s especially Jaune’s.

[@MeemahSN]

@@darkrot824 Well to her… they did feel worse than everyone else’s. People were always looking to her for guidance, expecting her to be positive and hopeful all the time. She felt like it was her job to lift everyone up into her arms, but no one was lifting her into theirs. But you’re right about her actions being unjustified.

[@EngineScypex]

It's not really that Ruby distance herself, that was only one time. All the other times there were more important things.

[@dykelif]

im just...wow. she is just a child and has every right to be upset, i just wish she didnt bottle up like this because holy fuck this was so hard to watch i couldnt even look at the screen when she went all out. jaune on the other hand, i think he was an asshole for screaming at Ruby like that but she was also in the wrong for rubbing his wound, they really dont comprehand how messed up it must have been for him to be alone for YEARS after a tragedy like that.

[@madhavmandava]

atleast i got my answer of how did Jaune survive the poison......but Ruby....oh man the face she made after Jaune yelled at her was like a kid wanting to cry for help but no 1 is listening.....totally screwed that part up

[@BGTitanAvatar]

It’s such a complicated thing. Because every time they did try to ask “hey, you good” Ruby shut them out or something interrupted them. That’s not even taking into consideration that they’re all so focus on trying to leave the Ever After. It’s all just a really big mess. Ruby’s completely valid in her feelings, this has been building for such a long time, but it’s still so hard to see her yelling at her team. And Jaune… oh boy. That’s another messy issue. This dude has always had a hero complex, like Ruby in some ways. “I’m tired of being the idiot stuck in the tree, I want to be the hero” to paraphrase his speech in V1. But now, mixed with all his trauma, it’s gotten to a point where he’s interfering with the Afterans’ way of life, based on incomplete information and his own assumptions/biases. On the plus side… the Bees are more in sync than ever and that fight choreo was super smooth. The song that played was called Trapdoor and it’s definitely a Ruby song. And to answer your question at the beginning, I think the mirrors last episode were showing things they’d lost, things they missed, or even just things that are weighing on their mind. Summer has been getting so many mentions this volume… please let us see her.

[@knottymango]

The two pillars and driving forces of the group are now broken. It’s gonna be up to wby to help the helpers.

[@jaimeeking8584]

Is this the first time we have a warning before the show? Cuz…where the hell was it at the death(s) of Penny, the end of Volume 3 with Pyrha, and the Hound silver eyed warrior and the gut punch of Ruby talking about her mother?

[@12_gauge76]

Yall noticed that Carey's voice is SO much deeper than way back in the beacon days?

[@LilpnuthaterOfficial]

Welp that was depressing

[@gohanmoreno7]

Jaune reminded me to the Rabbit because the Rabbit was constantly hurry and worried for the time, and Jaune was in this episode too.

[@tamarlevy5949]

me who doesn't like the show as much as i used to just watching to see where the story goes: "fuck yeah ruby pop off!!" honestly, ruby has been the only main cast member who didn't get to resolve her issues and feelings in 9 whole volumes. all the other main characters went through their own personal arc resolutions but her, who has been struggling with trauma, responsibility and a messed up perception of herself for 6 volumes. this episode brought me back to the volume 4 scene where jaune is practicing to a recording of pyrrha and ruby watches him. i think that moment is where her self-doubts really started. she doesn't trust herself but she has no one to lean on so she ended up bottling everything and trying to do good, but things kept not working and she lost hope in herself and in her team. she desperately needed this and i really hope they're going to sit on the fact that she's been bottling her feelings for 6 volumes, honestly if i was going through so much and get no help from my closest confidants i would definitely hold a grudge. ruby wasn't completely in the right for acting the way she did but i totally understand her and absolutely agree with some of the things she said. why DOES she need to be a leader? and why does everyone start asking her if she's ok but then get distracted by other things to do and leave it as if they forgot something about her behaviour was concerning? yang, weiss and blake managed to sort out their family issues and heal through their traumas throughout the volumes, so pushing aside ruby's feelings, especially as the youngest in the group just isn't fair. idc that she's the leader, idc that she's talented, smart, charismatic, and a good fighter. idc! get that child a therapist!

[@ptrgiese]

My god. I hope it's Neo's turn, this time... We have 3 episodes to go, and we haven't seen most of Neo. Granted, we saw her in this episode.

[@ricardocuellar9461]

Rusted knight, is reference the red knight and the white kinght on th second book.

[@copaceticobserver]

The people who side 100% with ruby really show their immaturity, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt of being literal children

[@johnodarod9629]

good thing I sided with jaune

[@EngineScypex]

Good that you point out to be at children-level yourself. If not I might have taken you seriously.

[@roguegabe]

bruh you seem like a great reactor! bout to binge the heck outta your videos!

[@nothnx3210]

All these paper-pleasers are just too many reminders of Pyrrha and Penny to Jaune (for all those decades too) 🙃

[@Nathan-FG01]

i just watch the ep befor leaving for work. my bus tiket on my phone says smile, it toys with me. But this was long over due, ruby needs suport as much as her team. a leader is only as good as those around them to keep them going.

[@PabloHernandez-gl5ij]

That's rough man having to hear him say that to her I know you didn't mean it it was out of anger but still that was kind of rough. 😞

[@lucifer-librarian9562]

I really don’t get why Yang activates her semblance when she hasn‘t taken any damage

[@corbandragonX]

Can't believe Ruby abandoned her Friends, you don't want to end up like Alyx. Ruby needs to let go the pain.

[@Rino204]

"His"? Ruby is a female lol

[@corbandragonX]

@@Rino204 But i fix it

[@Emerald-t7k]

"Stop Nora from climbing pebble tower during storm (trust me this one ends poorly 😞) 😭 jaunes list is full of little jaune pov references to other characters and it's adorable and heartbreaking at the same time. "keep Oscar away from kite strings" "Stop Ren from falling into the koi pond" "Make new scarecrows (ruby will help)" 😭😭

[@danielmartins9901]

She can basically fly now💀

[@Alpha_GXL]

........when jaune mentioned the bridge....did he mean when they thought againat cinder....

[@ctmcdonald0303]

Wow another amazing episode it’s sad that volume 9 is almost over

[@jaimeeking8584]

That “ohhhhh everyday…” Jaune…it’s no wonder you got grey hairs Buddy.

[@josiah210]

I wonder if Ruby and little went back to little village where the mouses are

[@mintysmells]

Have you noticed that white rabbit is called Jnpr after Jaunes team?

[@viktoryc]

A lot of people have