MY BEST DRIVER NUMBERS EVER! Titleist TSR3 vs TSR4

[@erniestarkey8856]

This is what I wanted to see head to head. I am now going to get the TSr4. It looks amazing. Thanks Michael for another great video.

[@mikeone8400]

Lol.....good luck hitting it

[@erniestarkey8856]

@@mikeone8400 i am a scratch golfer and currently hit my driver dead in the middle. I got this. They have improved it a lot. Thanks.

[@mikeone8400]

@@erniestarkey8856 just because your a scratch doesn't mean you can hit every type of club. I'm a 5 handicap and I can't hit the stealth driver at all but I can bomb the mizuno st driver straight down the middle 310 yards

[@jeffnahass8373]

Love watching the swing. Great to emulate.

[@DAGenao]

Excellent content, Michael. I'm in the process of buying the TSr 3 but after seeing your video, I'll consider the TSr 4 as well.

[@TimBarnesPolygonPerformance]

I was TSi3, moved into TSr4 - couldn't control the TSi4. I was hitting the TSi3 around 191mph ball speed max, the TSR4 up to 197mph. I can't believe how light and fast the TSR4 feels considering I can control it even with weight forward 8° knocked down to 7.25° with Ventus Black 6x.

[@hondasctx]

Wow, some great swings with a big turn, pounding that driver like stamping out nickles. Overall the 3 is the best performer but also has th eless forgiving face, wondering if getting more balanced weights for the 4 would be the best combo of all, say two 6 gram weights. Just a thought because the face in the four is the same as the 2 which is more forgiving for less centered strikes than the 3. Noticing with the weight forward there are club head speed gains and carry gains. All very interesting and a stellar new line from Titleist.

[@davidwilliams5346]

I also went firm tsi3 to tsr4 today.

[@MichaelNewtonGolf]

Where did you have the weight David? Front or back?

[@davidwalker683]

Enjoyed the video Michael, always informative.

[@kevinmcarthur2389]

another good relateable fitting MN, really impressed with this driver

[@GRIFF22]

For those who are interested in forgiveness. The MOI of the TSR3 is 4900, TSR weight forward is 4200 and weight back is 4700. To get 4700 MOI out of a low spin, 430cc head is phenomenal!

[@andrewcs29]

Where do you find this data?

[@GRIFF22]

@@andrewcs29 GOLFTEC

[@LeprechaunGinger]

Love to see what you end up gaming! Great work again Michael!

[@garyhovey9305]

Very nice video, was great to see you play around with the weights. I watched your review of the Tour Edge C721 and was surprised how it seems to out perform the big name clubs. Do you review the C722 model yet?

[@nellynelson9387]

Really interested in seeing stealth vs tsr2 please mike 🙏

[@MichaelM-to4sg]

The Titleist SureFit dual axis hosel wins over single axis TM.

[@garyverth4887]

The TSI4 on a good day was ridiculous.Low and penetrating and roll out huge. On a bad day, the smaller face intimidated me a bit. I moved to TSI3 in Tensei White X and got some good high bombs. I am going to try out the TSR3.

[@wnfakind9197]

What’s the size difference between the 2&3 I don’t like elongated drivers but want the forgiveness, I have the LTDx now and like that size , highly interested in the TSR2 . Any comments?

[@troyhake5699]

Actually you were averaging about 12 yards longer and similar ball speeds with the Callaway B21 with the stock stiff shaft a couple years ago. The new TSRs look great. I hit a TSI3 and love it.

[@tonybroadhead341]

Was just gonna say same thing💪🏌🏻‍♀️

[@SS-qf2po]

what's your take on the driver's vs PING G425 Max?

[@shellbmb7]

Both my friend and myself have found the TSR4 to have way more misses left with the weight forward. It seems like your finding similar results with the TSR4 veering left with the weight forward. Any explanation for this?

[@MichaelM-to4sg]

His sample size on this video was 3 with heavy weight forward. 2 of those strikes were toe. The gear effect took it left, though not substantially and most importantly those heel & toe strikes still maintained ball speed. If you look at his first strike with heavy weight back, it too was a bit toey but went straight. Ball speed was however 1.5mph slower and a few yards shorter. That result should be exactly as expected. CG forward loses some forgiveness while gaining some efficiency. The driver is pretty efficient across its entire face, weight forward or back. You choose if you prefer maximum efficiency or maximum forgiveness.

[@PavelKovtun13]

nice video. I just wanted to mention that for the last ~5-8 videos you have a slight disbalance in audio in your videos: a left channel is slightly louder than a right channel

[@MichaelNewtonGolf]

oh ok, I'll look into that....thanks for letting me know.

[@Somewheredownintexas]

“There’s me distance.” 😊

[@Stu1987]

Mike, Great video reviews of the TSR range. In your opinion do you think there is enough difference between the TS4 and these clubs to warrant investing in a fitting?

[@MichaelNewtonGolf]

Yes, you’ll notice a difference in forgiveness & stability against yours

[@ianmock2]

TSR3 all day... your numbers are slightly less than the TSR4, but your dispersion is noticeably better.

[@Neil-v5k]

If you can hit a 3 wood you can easily hit the TSI and TSR 4

[@jacobmccain8082]

I think they nailed the TSR2 this year. Looks WAY better than TSi2 and would even consider switching from the 3 if the numbers were as good.

[@mikemusto806]

Not sure the drop in spin with the 4 weight forward would carry to the golf course.

[@MichaelM-to4sg]

Why would it be a very low spin on simulator but not the course? The issue for me would be why anyone would want an average 1900 spin driver that routinely drops to 1700’s. If it’s a wide, straight hole with no wind, sounds great 👍. The reality is most long 4’s and par 5’s, holes where I pull my driver, are in fact doglegs. Where I live, 10-12mph winds are common, 20+ now in Fall is routine. My home courses are shrouded in tall conifers. Spin is my friend, it gives me options to control shot shape. Not saying I want a 3000 spin driver that just balloon’s up in wind. My target is 2400-2700. Whether it’s TSR4 w/big weight back or more likely the TSR3 sound like a possible new gamer for me.

[@wallstreetoneil]

You were literally peppering the center point of the TSR4 - yet your immediate comment many times was that you missed it - and then when you made a comment that you hit it, it didn't seem to do as well as the TSR3. Just what I saw. Personally, I think the TSR2 10-degree head is going to deliver the surprise upside in sales - play it 1-click open & flat - a much bigger sweet spot and far more stable.

[@Lawsurf1]

What do you mean by one click open? Are you saying bring the 10-degree down to 9 - degree? Thanks

[@wallstreetoneil]

@@Lawsurf1 I'm trying to equate 1-click open to how many of the other brands work where open means de-lofted and also slightly open-faced and Titleist also has a Flat setting. The Titleist Standard setting is A1 - so I'm implying 1-open & 1-Flat being the C1 setting which is -0.75-degrees reduction in Loft and also 0.75-degrees Flat - which is a pretty popular setup for 'better' players for anti-left protection

[@MichaelNewtonGolf]

Only said what I felt…..not sure TrackMan strike point is that accurate

[@Lawsurf1]

@@wallstreetoneil thanks for clarifying

[@johnhathaway735]

@@wallstreetoneil I thought the right handed driver chart for C1 is more loft but .75 “flat” so it’s effectively more loft whole open. No?

[@cameronloveless1751]

Is it just my ears, or does TSr3 sound better than TSr4?

[@steve827]

3 sounds way better

[@bennyclay]

The VFT, variable face technology, is different from 3 to 4. 4 has the same vft as the 2. Probably why they sound different.

[@cameronloveless1751]

@@bennyclay will be interesting to see how 2 sounds then

[@MichaelM-to4sg]

The lower volume head should produce a different frequency soundwave

[@LeprechaunGinger]

The sound actually changes significantly based on where you place the weights.

[@tigerbalm666]

I has 3 drivers, Ping i15 (460), Razr (440), Mizuno JPX 850 (440) all in X. But my fav shaft is the 70gr X GraphDes Pershing in the i15. The other 2 are 65 gr X. At best, these newest drive MAY get me another 10 yards on off center hits...but for $500+...NO EFFING WAY!

[@doctorstrange2549]

Michael, I’ve seen every video you’ve made, and as I recall, the best driver numbers you ever posted, with any driver, were with the Callaway B-21. What happened there?

[@follyfour506]

I said the same to my mate yesterday about that . It's like they can't admit they need the help . Another youtuber had the best putter he's ever tried but won't put it in the bag because it's centre shafted .

[@renscience]

If you have issues hitting a club in the screws you need to invest in your swing and body, not a new gimmicky club. Or you may just be swinging too hard. I learned my golf in the persimmon and blade 1 iron days. Drivers today are a “plate on a stick”. I welcome a 430 cc head. Still very forgiving compared to what my brain was calibrated to. Like in guns, aim small

[@motty147]

£530 what a joke

[@AussiePeter]

Sounds not right. Just left channel.

[@stenzy282]

Its comical how off those monitors are, 164 ball speed isn't coming close to 282 carry in normal conditions LOL

[@MichaelNewtonGolf]

Depends on launch & spin, not just speed