You fly like a majestic Pelican - it's beautiful to watch
@Niccaman5 жыл бұрын
We should fly together like a flock of pelicans some day ;)
@Lazybear225 жыл бұрын
Legends you both
@random_white_guy2365 жыл бұрын
Yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo………………...
@Wowowowowow9195 жыл бұрын
We shall join your flock lord pelican
@bruhbean26595 жыл бұрын
I shall join this flight
@MajorKirrahe5 жыл бұрын
I always found it ridiculous that you get NO points if a plane that you damaged crashes.. In my opinion, if you put loads of damage into a plane to the point that it's on fire or smoking and then it crashes, you should get "vehicle destroyed" and even a kill if the pilot is still in it. It's so unfair when you do all that damage and then you get those coward players who ram their plane into the ground when they know they've lost the dogfight so you don't get the kill or destroyed points
@sindye21725 жыл бұрын
Major Kirrahe it’s a pain
@brody88575 жыл бұрын
Yep it is super annoying when I’m trying to level up my plans and I get them down so low and then they just bail out and crash and then I get no points for it like how am I supposed to level up my plane
@dmvrti5 жыл бұрын
Agree!
@hugovinicius15085 жыл бұрын
It should be like war thunder
@outdooroutpost60615 жыл бұрын
Major Kirrahe I suicide my plane into objectives if possible. Never let the enemy get the kill
@Hanz_Goober5 жыл бұрын
German bias: *A C T I V A T E*
@dutch79855 жыл бұрын
Yes... just YES
@Leo-uu9bs5 жыл бұрын
no thats aktivieren
@hackerino97075 жыл бұрын
The brits have fists, but the germans have Panzerfäuste
@Wowowowowow9195 жыл бұрын
Hacke Rino Yes
@jase44525 жыл бұрын
3.40. Ha ha you said “Battlefield” and “balance” in the same sentence.
@Niccaman5 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness
@StickyIckyOOHWAY5 жыл бұрын
hey Nic, rather than replacing two of your main guns with the 20mm, try taking the armored fuselage, and then going full right spec. that way you keep the original 4 primary weapons that fire from the nose, and its much easier to hit targets, both planes and infantry, and you have more DPS. the 20mm are too hard to use, and not that strong to justify picking them. the only problem with this build path is that you lose the radar, but you can do without it. see if it works for you ;) it did for me. (by the way, i was very sceptical of buying bfv at first, but by watching your videos i got jealous and really wanted to fly in this game, so in a way, you made me buy bfv :P ) cheers
@Orion-kj2mu5 жыл бұрын
Niccaman that G2 is so great for pulling back on throttle, and the faster moving bullets are great for fighters because they fire from the center. Switching between guns when overheating is also really effective, I’ve found G2 also out turns the spit Great vid tho👍
@Herald-of-Peace5 жыл бұрын
You there Nic need your opinion on something please...
@Niccaman5 жыл бұрын
@@Herald-of-Peace what's up dude
@Herald-of-Peace5 жыл бұрын
@@Niccaman m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJK8Z4aVoZZkn68 how'd you rate this I'm new to bf and flying any tips if you got like 1 min to watch? Much respect love your commentary and game play keep it up
@marvin14325 жыл бұрын
Niccaman please use the emergency repair bevor you refill your ammo. it just trigers me;)
@JohnnySinsHD5 жыл бұрын
Ikr lol
@cuffey935 жыл бұрын
so frustrating to watch the lack of use of the repair right. Such an amazing pilot too and i saw on at least two occasions it would have saved his bacon in that vid.
Historically speaking, the early BF-109 variants were equal to the Spitfire. It depended on who the better pilot was.
@Flopsos5 жыл бұрын
Niccaman in a German aircraft: “I think this has .50 cals” You know, an American machine gun Great job nic
@garlicbread5685 жыл бұрын
Flo Ris .50 caps aren’t strictly American bit the 109 doesn’t have them it would most likely be 13mm
@isni19465 жыл бұрын
Well, when someone say. 50 cal, i immediately think about the browning m2
@Flopsos5 жыл бұрын
Garlic Bread , it was invented in the USA and entered service in 1921, so the Germans wouldn’t be using them in ww2. And btw, he said in the video, with text on screen, that it are 20 mm
@Comuzzy5 жыл бұрын
Its BF5, everything is possible
@weir-t7y5 жыл бұрын
@@Flopsos the .50 was based on german AT rifle ammo
@YaBoy25 жыл бұрын
Historically speaking, the spitfire would out turn the 109 but the 109 would out-speed the spitfire. Correct me if I’m wrong
@dielectricuniverse40765 жыл бұрын
You are so right. The physics for the Bf109 in this game is way off. They were known to be flown straight at high speed - at high altitude - and then would swoop down and engage the enemy with a burst of fire on one pass and then head back up to the higher altitudes. This way they had distance and speed on their side. They couldn't afford to get into a dogfight, they'd lose. The only country that produced planes that could outmaneuver the Spitfire was Japan. But they were practically made of paper and could get shot down way too easy. Everything changed once the P-51 Mustang entered the war.
@seriousgameing5 жыл бұрын
the earlier versions of the 109 outperformed the spitfire in almost everyway including turning. i dont play this game so dont know if the e series of 109 is in the game but those would be capable. the later versions like the g2 in this one were a bit faster but would be outturned. alot of people think the spitfire was slow tho but it was actually very fast
@lucasbrooks51775 жыл бұрын
The bf109 would have an edge over early spitfires in negative G manoeuvres but in the spitfires with the later variants of the Merlin engine the bf109 was outperformed in every way
@truckertj21095 жыл бұрын
@@lucasbrooks5177 not the engine was the problem. It was the way how the got the fuel in the cylinder. The germans used Fuel Injection, which doesn't care much about G Forces. The british on the other hand used Carburetors on the early Spitfire, which didn't like the negative G Forces
@nealde5 жыл бұрын
@@lucasbrooks5177 Outperformed in every way? 109 was still faster at alt, had the better climb and better dive. By 1945 the K4 as arguably the last 109 was still highly competetive against late war allied planes (according to Iwanow and Green, who worked individually from each other and basically gathered the same data about the late war planes)
@natebailey26055 жыл бұрын
Thanks to you I am a much better pilot
@user-dd9qq1ru7s5 жыл бұрын
Bro i do this pull back stall thing i turn off my engine and go straight up and no one can counter it. So OP
@lorenzoamandy90755 жыл бұрын
most feared conflict yeah,but if the enemy pilot can react fast enough you could die
@SwedishSword5 жыл бұрын
At this point in the pilot meta, the g6 is just kind of terrible as opposed to the g2, even air to ground wise. Once you master the g2 main gun, you can very accurately mow down infantry, while not sacrificing your air to air power. Also, the rockets are great for countering the stall tactics currently prevalent in the dogfights.
@Mcbreezy_ii5 жыл бұрын
Jared g6 has the machine guns and nitro and leadig edge making it a disgusting dogfighter and mingechosses and rockets make it great for hit and runs
@cheesyman105 жыл бұрын
so far stall tactics is about the only thing working for me, especially as a bomber. I dont have a tail gunner in the mosquito so thats about all i have left to do. But it seems like people are adapting to that too. On console you can't rely on teammates to help you because 9 times out of 10 they're garbage.
@hiddenassassin32335 жыл бұрын
*Battle of Britain intensifies*
@MausOfTheHouse5 жыл бұрын
They ruined it...
@krankysfirebrand4855 жыл бұрын
But with ground forces and incorrect planes
@ConjointVR5 жыл бұрын
They mostly used the E variants of the bf 109 with the square wing tips
@GRIZZLE175 жыл бұрын
7:37 your the best pilot I have seen
@jonathonhalter95765 жыл бұрын
3:23 I can't believe that people are still worried about historical accuracy in this game.
@slash-kv1sc5 жыл бұрын
Fr!!! There was a girl on the front lines with a damn Amputated hand
@nilshengge73984 жыл бұрын
At min 6:50 he shoots his rockets on an enemy tank and he broke his left Wing but a few second after that he changes into 1 person and the right wing was. Damaged?!? !?!?!?!?
@ronaldberari82415 жыл бұрын
The sirens from the planes sound like a nuke is about to be dropped
@mv2e195 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a stuka to me
@SMN-ct9gl5 жыл бұрын
@@mv2e19 and my boi that aint Ju-87
@mv2e195 жыл бұрын
@@SMN-ct9gl excuse me what?
@SMN-ct9gl5 жыл бұрын
@@mv2e19 the only ones that makes the Jericho siren is the Junkers 87, a german bomber
@mv2e195 жыл бұрын
@@SMN-ct9gl... The ju 87 is the same thing as the stuka.
@sublis9395 жыл бұрын
There’s 4 kinds of ground troop players. - campers players that prone in one spot. - aggressive players that attack hard and smart in gun fights. - builders players that only build and rarely shot. Last but not least - stationary players the ones that sit on any kind of stationary all game that think it’s the safest and smartest thing to do but they are really just annoying bastards that we just can’t get rid off cause they can rebuild it if it gets destroyed.
@105Artillary5 жыл бұрын
The ju-88 with the undermount MG is like literally WWII AC130 infantry shredder
@bunkerbill5 жыл бұрын
On maps like hamada it is insane.
@105Artillary5 жыл бұрын
@@bunkerbill or fjell map wherer everyone rushing towards C objective
@AntiFox085 жыл бұрын
It shreds aircraft. I got accused of hacking when I nearly gibbed a Mosquito with it.
@sirblackheart21783 жыл бұрын
Everytime I see a BF109 I get flashbacks from my old Warthunder days where the moment you saw one of these things you just died no questions asked " oh look another BF109 *dies* " I swear 9 out of 10 times I died it was to these cursed things.
@db-qj3ge5 жыл бұрын
I like the 20mm cannons, I aim for the wings and usually disable them giving me the turn advantage, even when initiating turning into each other head on.
@baigalraiden Жыл бұрын
This dude: *flying over enemy spawn and getting hit by aa gun* Also this guy: That's unfair!
@JobiWanification5 жыл бұрын
I enjoy flying so much in bfv. I with they made it more rewarding point-wise. I find it so relaxing
@HavocParadox5 жыл бұрын
would amazing to have boom and zoom tactics in this.
@Lupa-Vanth4 жыл бұрын
15:30 anyone else get sad when this music starts playing because I do 😞
@ellis82385 жыл бұрын
Those rockets are made to destroy bombers
@astora87684 жыл бұрын
Is these days:his siren was annoying 75 years ago:men proceed to sht himself right on the spot from how scary it is
@filipnyberg955 жыл бұрын
I like the spitfire more at first but since I have maxed out the BF109 I just cant get enough of it.
@Flopsos5 жыл бұрын
You are *one hell of a pilot*
@kyleyapching-g25623 жыл бұрын
Watching these older videos makes me miss the old skill trees for the German fighters.
@DTRREAPER5 жыл бұрын
Finally another video lol I need my daily dose of bfV piloting and nobody else really uploads lol THANK YOU!
@sterrre15 жыл бұрын
I was playing with the Spitfire VB with a wingman yesterday and an AA tank was camping at their spawn so for most of the game me and my wingman had to stay on our side of the map. We were able to keep the skies clear of bombers an stukas, but a bf109 kept trying to fight us and running back to that damn AA tank as soon as one of us got behind him. It was so annoying.
@looming_5 жыл бұрын
Now this is real nicca content! Cheers.
@Niccaman5 жыл бұрын
Glad I got you back ;)
@looming_5 жыл бұрын
@@Niccaman btw, the default 4x lmg config is best on the g-2 imo. shreds planes and infy.
@geendrip5 жыл бұрын
I got scared cuz i thought you were racist
@MeatSlinger5 жыл бұрын
this is personally one of my favorite planes in the game, I use the 20mm just before ROF slows due to over heating and then i switch to the machine gun or the secondary gun ASAP, and use it until its about to over heat and switch back to the 20mm, which is usually cooled down again. keeping a continuous line of fire that just doesn't stop makes TTK so quick opposed to letting the first gun over heat or slow down before switching. Missiles + continuous line of fire takes a bomber down in 2-3 seconds flat, and gives cowardly pilots who crash their plane upon engagement less time to crash.
@Nawa11YT5 жыл бұрын
4:00 spitpuko!
@Chris-m-m025 жыл бұрын
If the spitfires turns upside down the the engine will be starved of fuel
@politepupper1115 жыл бұрын
Hey Niccaman, I love your flying videos. I just wanted to add my two cents regarding the G2. It’s become my favourite plane, despite getting just shy of 1000 kills in each the G6 and Spitfire VA. The rockets on the BF109s makes them an absolute dream for shooting down bombers and fighters who tend to bail. In fact, I prefer the G2 with the nose & wing mounted cannons to any other plane. Especially since the G6 got nerfed to oblivion. Anyways, all the best- MarseilleJG57
@dereksendrak4 жыл бұрын
Hitting that Stuuka with a Panzerfaust was fucking AMAZING!!!!! WOW!🤘🏻
@IanDabre075 жыл бұрын
All the Niccaman fans join Nic's discord server, link in the description..
@ThePumpkinBasher5 жыл бұрын
my man
@SpadoKln5 жыл бұрын
Yo
@tiagodavid68515 жыл бұрын
I will, thx
@Thamac155 жыл бұрын
Someone that doesn’t get angry when they get shot down? No way!!!
@wesp2025 жыл бұрын
The rockets in the G2 punish air brakers in the funnest way
@teitokueugeo13525 жыл бұрын
Spitfire: I'm gonna end this man's whole career!!! Niccaman with the BF109: Am I a joke to you?? Spitfire: Oh shit!!! Spitfire: kamikaze intensifies
@dervelthecelt5 жыл бұрын
This plane is lethal in the right hands
@Spcwes15 жыл бұрын
They fire right 1st and then left and the bracket on either side of your reticle is what you use to aim the rocket
@danielryan35475 жыл бұрын
How cool would it be, for one perk that you can throw a blue smoke grenades to signal a bomber plane on your teams to strike
@SK3TDCH5 жыл бұрын
Guess what I stole my moms credit card to buy 10,000 Golden eagles in War thunder
@goblincleaver_mshm.97515 жыл бұрын
Nice Afterall we feel the need to win sometimes
@benixmo5 жыл бұрын
Remember to join nick's discord
@stephaniecandelaria72344 жыл бұрын
The fields on the map look like the german stalhelm design, which is cool
@Flopsos5 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a video on the stug 4?
@darthrevan57075 жыл бұрын
Fjell would be a way better map for the 20mm
@fugthizfugu5 жыл бұрын
I have trouble in a tank. You seem to blat round the sky like bloody Mario cart!
@emmittstarbird23005 жыл бұрын
I think Battlefield should add in that mode that I think was only in BF4 where it was just aircraft fighting eachother I think that would be a cool thing to bring back
@emmittstarbird23005 жыл бұрын
@@TundraGazi That would be freaking awesome
@piarpeggio5 жыл бұрын
BF3 was the first title of the franchise to have it.
@emmittstarbird23005 жыл бұрын
@@piarpeggio Oh ok thank you. I've never played that one my first Battlefield games was 4
@-Vantablack5 жыл бұрын
It was in BF1 too
@emmittstarbird23005 жыл бұрын
@@-Vantablack Oh that's cool never played BF1 much
@Jerram895 жыл бұрын
I reckon this guy would be a real champ in real life
@AitkenAintDead5 жыл бұрын
This felt like a real niccaman video ❤
@chrisbutton50055 жыл бұрын
Pilot of the year
@bursucu29125 жыл бұрын
The main cannon on G2 is the same MG151 20mm cannon that's on the pods as well Irl Spitfires were much superior when it came to dog fighting, and vertical maneuvers and lower stall speed than the 109s Also, you don't need additional physics to execute Boom and Zoom, go high up, find a target and wait for and opportunity and go in a dive, dounce on the target and go back up and repeat, Boom and Zoom is one of the most basic yet effective enough tactics, try to use the sun as well as a way to hide yourself when diving on the target
@Icebear5075 жыл бұрын
I use the G2 a lot lately. You should try those rockets against other airplanes. They deal a huge amount of damage compared to the rockets of a spitfire. But the spitfire rockets are better for infantry, especially on fjell. As always: Very nice video. Love to watch them :)
@ajq34625 жыл бұрын
Got shredded by 3 bf109s on mountain map earlier whilst my spitfire teammates would rather bomb ground targets than save me 😭
@Slimjim21475 жыл бұрын
Nicc, you should try the G2 with the default weapons. They're 4, 7.62mm guns (like the left tree on the g-6) and they're really really good for anti-air and are my favorite to strafe infantry with. On the specializations if you go left you get increased fire rate and then you can go to the right and still get the automatic leading edge and the rockets. It's absolutely my favorite. It almost feels like flying the VA in terms of damage, with better maneuverability, and rockets to snipe camping AA.
@hanvyj25 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I definitely prefer the 4 guns Vs 2 and the cannons.
@briangarza20065 жыл бұрын
FLYING TIP If a backseat gunner is shooting at you fly straight up wait till he starts to drive again then dive down on him
@ole77625 жыл бұрын
If u get the drop on em the 20mm just wrecks their wings, and they can never outturn u
@bunkerbill5 жыл бұрын
The new operation is fantastic and this game is finally coming together!!
@atharvasapre85785 жыл бұрын
Warthunder aces must be cringing so bad seeing that 109 turning with a mosquito and spitfire.
@isaacstroh63265 жыл бұрын
Is anyone gonna talk about how nicca sounds like Mumbo jumbo?!
@carmallym72865 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you back Nick. The discord server says hello
@calebisson83325 жыл бұрын
The Germans didn't even have 50 cal machine guns
@user-dd9qq1ru7s5 жыл бұрын
I feel like dice watches nicca they made planes in bf5 so great and added so many upgrades.
@bbman81785 жыл бұрын
The place skin came from the "Lightning Strikes" rewards
@Br0wni15-t8s5 жыл бұрын
My fav bf109, those 20mms are super deadly, some guy called me a hacker because i killed his spitfire super fast with 'em.
@creaper13765 жыл бұрын
If you have it I would recommend putting the Bavarian Boar nose paint on the bf-109, I have and it looks beautiful and fits well on it...
@danielethell29515 жыл бұрын
Creaper 137 I have it as well. Look’s amazing
@muathaljohani11645 жыл бұрын
You should see my kick ass on my spitfire
@creaper13765 жыл бұрын
@@muathaljohani1164 ehh, I've seen the kickass on it and it... well... just doesn't fit at all '\_(•~•)_/'
@muathaljohani11645 жыл бұрын
Creaper 137 no I meant when I’m on your 6 you’ll see it fits well
@SilverShamrock715 жыл бұрын
not sure when or how, but you got extra skin and nose art for the G2 and the VA, both are the starting planes, I think it may have been in the 1st ToW chapter
@alexoak6075 жыл бұрын
Was hoping for some sick rocket action against those planes. works like a charm!
@OrbitingThunder5 жыл бұрын
The Bf 109 G2 had a 20mm in the nose and could carry wing mounted 20mm Mg 151
@ProfessorBooty695 жыл бұрын
Opposed to the G6 that had a 20mm in the nose and could carry wing mounted 20mm MG151? They had the same armament.
@ConjointVR5 жыл бұрын
Professor Booty the G-6 also had 2 13mm Mg 131 on the top of the nose
@ProfessorBooty695 жыл бұрын
@@ConjointVR Which is the only armament different so I don't get why the guy who posted the comment felt carrying wing mounted 20mm was notable.
@OrbitingThunder5 жыл бұрын
@@ProfessorBooty69 It did carry 2 mounted mg 151 if installed
@ProfessorBooty695 жыл бұрын
@@OrbitingThunder I'm not saying it didn't. I'm saying they both did.
@pauladalglish5 жыл бұрын
Because your skilled and better than most people. Your better keep your skill up.
@konradsmith79044 жыл бұрын
The rockets are brutally effective against enemy planes. They have won me many stall fights
@nicoheintel32125 жыл бұрын
In my opinion the Spitfire is way superior to the Bf109 ^^ I hate being on the german side and realise I have to take a fighter :D Thanks for the upload, Nicca! You're amazing :)
@jaguh90695 жыл бұрын
I love the G2 and its rocket even though it was nerfed. So satifying to snipe mounted AA with it :D
@danlikespez15 жыл бұрын
G2 is my fav fighter. Even before they nerfed the spitfire VA. But I don’t choose the cannon specialization. The default machine guns can shred a spitfire in a few seconds.
@CR-kr9cs5 жыл бұрын
That’s how Mafia works.
@deadmoneyjoe88785 жыл бұрын
you got the skin out of the previaus tides of war
@pugsliicakes37845 жыл бұрын
Imagine the bf-109 with miniguns attached to the wings
@Rhymer35 жыл бұрын
Easy way to make bf 109 better and more balanced is make it climb faster, it would also be historically accurate
@danielaraiza67504 жыл бұрын
It's suggestible to use the main gun if your'e diving. 20 mm overheat to fast! They were designed for attacking armored vehicles like planes or tanks, not for dive attacks!
@fernandoalcantar79075 жыл бұрын
I’m surprise no one kill you with a rocket while flying that low. I like the Stuka with the cannons, kills spitfires really quick
@vaalthangceu95165 жыл бұрын
keep up my man i love your voice and skill !! you are very funny niccaman
@timon32115 жыл бұрын
"its not even fair" but its realistic
@Snoozieee Жыл бұрын
wtf kinda turn was that at 16:18🤣🤣🤣
@liamleak12725 жыл бұрын
The skin was part of the first tides of war rewards
@Lantit5 жыл бұрын
Great zooming effects 👌🏻
@justinsimpson23355 жыл бұрын
I only use the G2. I also prefer the sound of the bf109 over the spitfire. In cockpit view the engine sounds awesome as you firewall the throttle!
@BFViking5 жыл бұрын
Man your piloting skills are insane! I always crash and burn in 5 minutes :P
@dotanota5 жыл бұрын
This is why i subscribed 2 years ago
@kamikazimf84575 жыл бұрын
Since Feb update bf109 dominates the sky again the spit fire
@emberswords5 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure that the mosquito should have died sooner since they’re mostly made out of wood
@QAnswer5 жыл бұрын
BFV G2 got radar, maneuverability, and engines upgrades. Spitfire has no chance unless the G2 pilot is clueless.
@sharkshape96215 жыл бұрын
Am I the only person bothered by the fact that the g2 had underslung rockets and invisible gunpods? They were either invisible gunpods on the wings or dice gave the 109 g2 wing mounted cannons even though that was only the E series, but either way that is way off and shouldn't exist in-game for being stupid
@camerongraves83985 жыл бұрын
The g-2 slays I know from experience I only use it when Germans and that skin is from the last chapter of tides of war
@jeffneinenstein59235 жыл бұрын
During WWII, the only two countries to use .50 cals were the US and Russia (although the UK used some because of lend lease). I think you mean 50 mm cannons when talking about the Bf 109.
@Brimsy125ccm5 жыл бұрын
Hey mate. There are no 50mm guns. Max. was 30mm in common. Not includes any Prototypes. 50cal.s is something about 12,7 mm which is an heavy MG. Late 109 used one 20/30mm MK and 2 13mm MG.
@SMN-ct9gl5 жыл бұрын
There are no 50 mm guns on bf 109 or Fw 190 if they used that, it would shred the plane to pieces
@d4ze73855 жыл бұрын
Me 262 pulkezerstörter used a big 50 mm
@octapusxft5 жыл бұрын
Now I feel like giving the G2 another try
@DemonicAlucard5 жыл бұрын
i think if they ever want to implement boom and zoom it will be when (A BIG IF) they add the FW-190
@d.f.91405 жыл бұрын
Eligos but not in bfV with the fw 190, it would suck so much. The climb rate is worse than bf 109 at this altitudes and top speed such as turn rate would only be better over 3 to 4 thousand meters (way too much for bf V). If Fw 190 comes into game it's an air to groundforce fighter not air superiority or boom'n zoom. If the Fw 190 Dora comes into the game, this would be the air to air fighter u r lookin for in the german tree. It would have the 20 cals of the g2 and its main gun and rockets, bombs etc. it was one plane of the greatest varieties when it comes down to weaponry fittet to it. Only to mention one, the luftwaffe mounted "flamethrower", if I remember correctly, on the plane to spray an aerosol/fuel in tge sky and set it on fire. That would be cinematic! Imagine a dogfight with a spit on ur 6 ready to set up the kill and u turn his whole screen into a wall of flames. Airbrakes, stall a bit, a slighty turn, and shoot the burning brit^^ (No offense guys, spitfires are beautiful but I love the strangler aka Ta 150 aka Fw 190)
@KaoukabiJaouad5 жыл бұрын
Dice should do a simple update to make air combat more fun, i feel if you provoque the crash, you should get the kill, people won't crash themselves too early, and also find that the Spitfire is way better than the BF 109, just on every aspect, the latter feel too slow in the air ...